Finally, dragon Ball daima has accomplished what every vegeta fan has longed to see. The prince of all Saiyans, vegeta, has finally achieved the ssj3 transformation.
@nyew_thrizz I second that. That was the reason why he gave a better fight to Lord Beerus in ssj2 than Goku did in ssj3. Even Master Roshi said that Vegeta was stronger than Goku when fighting Beerus.
@@SaiyanScholar still have to watch the episode, and no worries, the suprise of seeing the thumbnail with SSJ3 geets, was as good as watching it later in full.it's like having twice the fun for me. sorry, i'm still in sonic mode after watching the third one. and with the chibi body, it really has sonic energy, you can't argue with that 😆 i hope they don't squander SSJ4 as an exclusive demon realm sayian tranformation, which is what many ppl seem to believe will happen. i'd prefer if they gave the form to broly, as in, if he ascends, cause, it would make a lot of sense, since he can tap into the great ape power, without ape-ing out. easy breezy explanation, he first learns to stabilize LSSJ, and then puts the great ape energy on top of it. a new fusion makes the most sense for the ending, cause why else would the fusion bugs be there. duu's gonna eat luu or whatever the other one is called, and then they will have to fuse, just don't know if it's gonna be kaio and goku or geets and goku.
You're probably mostly right. I think he will absorb him, but I dont think he is planning it. The fact that he seemed to forget that he helped after arinsu said he didnt indicated to me that he isnt as in control as everyone thinks Like he could just go crazy all of a sudden and absorb duu. He's definitely got some brains in there and the fusion should be very interesting
@calvinwilson and MovieGasm no I think Kuu just agreed with her in order to play dumb and keep their party’s progress going. If Kuu doesn’t absorb Duu (and perhaps even turn on what’s her face) I think they’ll combine into one for sure and then obviously Goku and Vegeta will fuse and that’s gonna be sick to see the result of a new fusion type. Also Piccolo will probably get a new power up from Nether and he’ll have his tile to shine. These next eight episodes are gonna be very interesting/good.
@MovieGasm actually, another possibility: what if arinsu actually has some sort of inherent control over kuu that neither is aware of Like she gave him a command like the jedi "these aren't the druids you're looking for" I'm actually excited to see what happens for once
@@JustxLiving909Goku and Gotenks SSJ3 is a completely useless. Vegeta with SSJ3 was able to win. Plus, he has the original design of SSJ3. 100% Vegeta with SSJ3 is the best version
PEAK EPISODE VEGETA COOKED BRO REGAINED HIS AURA 💥💥 Vegeta wasn't out of breath after using Super Saiyan 3 I mean what kind of a training he did he do ? ☠️
I may be wrong, but isn’t this the first time SSJ3 actually won a fight? Isn’t that the number one complaint about the form, it never defeated anyone until now?
@@allindbz been a huge Dragonball fan since it aired on WB in the early 90s. Watched all of Z in Japanese dub, then GT and so forth. This is the first time I've ever heard about different timelines. I feel like the entire series is an isolated chronological order of events that are either canon or not.
Now SSJ3 Vegeta is officially canon and lines up with Super when he indirectly scoffed at about the form that now he canonically transformed himself and knows 1st hand the drawbacks beyond seeing it. I do wonder since he’s a kid, that’s why he doesn’t have the super long hair, but almost is looking like it’s taken from the Beast form with the long spike in the middle there. Also 200% SSJ3 Vegeta will be in Xenoverse 2’s next dlc, along with Sparking Zero.
There was a lot of references in Super that Vegeta never even learned it. So no it doesent really tie into Super. Vegeta would of used 3 against Beerus even with the drawbacks because it has more power. Which is why even Goku used 3 against Beerus there first time. They need to do a lot of retconning to fix what they just did here. I love dragon ball but im not gonna glaze it for everything lol.
Tamagami 1 might be stronger than 2, but not as you made him look. tamagami 2 got a boost in power by his creator, which is what forced Vegeta to go SSJ3
Oh boy are we ready for the swarm of ssj3 Vegeta toys we'll get? And don't forget the inevitable DLC for Xeno and Sparking I loved the design, this episode is one of my favorites easily Edit: Getting into some head canon here, what if his hair being less long has something to do with keeping it stable? or it could just be a meaningless variant, maybe we'll find out exactly how he achieved it
Vegeta was all about the mission. He had a mission to accomplish, and he exceeded expectations. This is why Future Trunks is the way he is. He gets it from his Daddy! Sparing between Goku and Vegeta is absolutely going to get very interesting.
@@puzzlebawce795 it doesn't look bad or that it sucks it just unique for vegeta (and plus it's a good way to make use of the old ssj3 design) to top it off that's the 1st time that ssj3 and vegeta got a decent dub even tho it's not canon
@Shockegde Ah, that explains why it looked so different. That's a nice way of giving Vegeta his own SSJ3 look, otherwise he would have wound up looking like SSJ3 Gotenks. Not that anything is wrong with that, but it's nice to see a SSJ3 transformation that looks more unique for its specific user. :3 Now I'm curious as to what an SSJ3 Future Trunks would look like with this original Toriyama SSJ3 design in mind.
@@SniperKing-O oh one more thing most people don't know is that the original ssj3 design supposed to also have a tail too just like ssj4 but I guess toriyama removed it last minute.
I love how Goku and Vegeta solved their "mini games", they might not be mathematicians exactly, but they're not dumb either, and cannot be easily fooled
They used the original design Toriyama made for ssj3 and I love it so much and I miss him i hope whatever notes he left behind are enough to feed the next generation of fans
This is soooo huge guys!!! Do you realize that making him go ssj3 now lines up with vegeta saying its a waste of a transform do to the energy drain which is why he doesnt do it as an adult. But more so than anything it will line up with master ultra ego! Master ultra ego already looks like an imperfect ssj3. Now when he masters ultra ego and it looks like his ssj3 transformation itll canonically make sense! What do yall think?
Basically Raging Blast and SDBH did it first but they ain’t canon. But yeah it’s a historic moment because it’s the 1st time canonically that’s vegeta turn SSJ3.
I wanted this so bad but the way they did it just doesn't make sense. Vegeta getting ssj3 is awesome but it just ruins alot of lore dbz made. Maybe I just need to ignore my adult brain and enjoy it like a kid. But the canonical story I grew up with keeps getting retconed by this story witch idk how I feel about.
@ not retconned. Goku himself avoids using ss3 because of the stamina drain and hence, vegeta avoided using it and went on to completely master ss2. There’s no reason why in the process of completely mastering ss2, he couldn’t have obtained the ss3 transformation especially if it is within the 4 years time skip before the battle of gods
this makes vegeta #2 more believable with ssj3. nobody said he was stronger than goku until bog with his rage ssj2. i guess he kept this a secret like goku did to him lol but bulma knew?
7:00 to be fair GT Goku also was like a quintillion times stronger than this Vegeta and he had to manage that in his child body. Not to mention that any stamina issue was removed with the tail.
In the buu saga Goku was smarter, Vegeta should been the first ssj3, it was bad writing an intelligent fighter like Goku would use such a taxing form, not saying Vegeta isn’t a smart fighter but his arrogance gets in the way
How has vegeta ever been the smarter technician? For his entire life until namek he relied on his raw power to win fights, with his only support technique being the fake moon. Meanwhile goku was constantly fighting opponents stronger than him, having to rely on his smarts and techniques to fight. Then in the cell saga, vegeta prioritizes raw power again with grade 2, his only sign of intelligence being not using grade 3. Goku has the same feat and had the better strategy to improve super saiyan with grade 4. Then in the buu saga, vegeta constantly lets his pride get in the way of the smart strategy, especially when he willingly turns majin and when he makes a fuss about fusing. Then we go into super's goku black arc where goku is shown being the one to improve upon ssj blue. And their current forms are the embodiement of that. Ultra ego is raw power while ultra instinct is movement and technique based, requiring full emotional control to achieve. Vegeta is constantly shown as the more brute force fighter compared to goku who is shown as a more technical fighter
I know that this new form of Vegeta is based on Akira Toriyama's old concept of SSJ3 before the final design for the Buu arc story, but this new form looks more like Super Saiyan 2.5 with a "Beast"-like hairstyle and no eyebrows rather than Super Saiyan 3 for some reason. It's probably because of his kid body in his SSJ3 form that makes him look like this for this reason.
It's about time he was given the form in an actual anime, and one that Toriyama was involved with writing before he died no less. And not only that, but he gave the form its best showing to this day, since it actually wins him the fight (while Goku was allegedly unable to finish his fight with Fat Buu before his time ran out during Z). Even if Daima so far has had questionable moments on par with the Zamasu arc. Though for me, Daima and GT's questionable moments were just that, moments. Unkike the Zamasu arc, which had me questioning the writing from beginning to end, to the point that I feel both Toyotaro and Toei botched the outline Toriyama gave them for that arc.
Is it just me or does Vegeta's Super Saiyan 3 form look almost similar to the original drawing that Akira Toriyama had done for the concept when he gave it to Goku first.
im commenting late but cmon with the spoilers on the thumbnail almost immediately after it aired man, not everyone can watch on launch and i know you need to get your clicks but god damn i wish i couldve been excited about the first time ive ever seen vegeta powers up to ssj3 when i finally got time to watch today but i already knew what was happening...
I believe Toriyama sensei enjoyed just writing arcs that was more episodic. Having continuity as DBS, where there are far more limitations in story telling. So having retcons like this was more the alley of Toriyama sensei. So having these changes to the DB continuity makes it harder to predict the plot. Having Daima as a separate universe would be more beneficial to the series..
All this stuff with Vegeta just makes me further question why this dude always has an inferiority complex with Goku? Seriously, this is the guy that always gets upset when Goku surpasses him and let himself become Majin all because of his inferiority complex with Goku. And yet he pulls shit like this and still whines when Goku gets stronger? Bruh.
Well, Daima comes after Buu Saga. Did you forget Vegeta's speech about Goku : "You're number one", when Vegeta admitted that Goku was stronger in the fight against Kid Buu? Vegeta didn't have SSJ3 back then. Vegeta learned to respect Goku as a warrior and they have a healthier rivalry in Super. Vegeta is the prince of all Saiyans. It's natural that he wants to be the strongest. His original goal in Z was to gain immortality, overthrow and take revenge on Frieza, and rule the Universe as the strongest Saiyan in the world. In their first fight, Goku won unfairly because he had help from Krillin, Gohan, and Yajirobe. It was the low-class Saiyan who asked Krillin to spare Vegeta. This hurt Vegeta's pride. Then Goku became the first Saiyan in 1000 years to unlock Super Saiyan. He also defeated Frieza. The first fight, the transformation, defeating Frieza, the fact that Goku achieves transformations earlier. All this was the beginning of Vegeta's hatred for Goku. Even though Goku never won a single 1v1 fight against Vegeta, Vegeta still felt weaker than Goku. But during the Buu Saga, this changed and in Super too. Although Vegeta still wants to be the strongest, he is not obsessed with rivalry with Goku. His main goal is to defeat Black Frieza
Honestly I don't see Bulma solving that math equation so quickly. Kuu could actually be the smartest character yet. Also why does SSJ3 look like beast now 💀
I don't know the design of this one in more in line with the original design for ssj3 and it works way better than the outrageously long hair that goku gets and it makes the distinction of ssj3 goku and vegeta
That’s cool but he achieved Super Saiyajin 4, God, Blue, Blue Evolve, Ego in the Super manga, and other Blue evolved forms in the Heroes game. He went above and beyond, so to me personally, not that much interested but it was pretty cool, I think it’s neat. Feel like he should’ve had this in Super (anime and manga).
I hate this, SSJ3 is supposed to be only Goku's form that he achieved after training for 20 years in the otherworld and Vegeta just achieved like that?
yeah. like a week after he was getting wrecked by buu in SSJ2 lol. none of it makes sense, toei is just treating dragon ball like a tumblr or deviantart now lol
Toriyama never said that SSJ3 is just a form for Goku, like it was with Ultimate Gohan or Beast Gohan. Gotenks in Z also reached SSJ3. Goku in another world took 7 years with all the advantages, and Vegeta 8 years. He also trained himself for these 7 years plus another 1 year after the events of the Buu Saga and Daima is just coming. Also Daima comes before Super
Cool animation but....The Super Saiyan 3 design looks off...He looks like Sonic💬The hair suppose to be much longer...The Daima one looks like that one Trunks used against Cell...🗣️
Their base is weaker as children so the multiplier that SSJ1, 2 and 3 doesn't have as big as an effect. Vegeta told Goku a few ep back that they couldn't win against the kraken, he is saying this with SSJ3 in his pocket. I think it's safe to say that even Buu saga characters could fight and win against the Kraken without to much trouble. These characters have gone from snapping planets away to being troubled by wildlife so I don't think Vegeta SSJ3 in Daima is stronger than GT Goku. Vegeta is an absolute prodigy though, getting SSJ1 in 2+ years, SSJ2 prob soon after Gohan and SSJ3 in a year is insane. Just has to see it.
i usually don’t care for deep theory power scaling but that all actually makes decent sense 👍 also a reasonable explanation for why these demon world randoms seem kid buu level but actually aren’t
Duu and Kuu are amazing I really hope they don’t die cuz they seem so innocent albeit misguided. Maybe Arinsu isn’t actually evil and the Majin bros are gonna be alright I really like them and don’t want them to get obliterated
We don't have a timeframe at all for reference when Goku obtained SSJ3. It's within that 7 year gap, but we don't know if it was 3 or 2 or 6 years into that timeskip. But still, I do agree even if Goku got it like a month after he died (unlikely but possible since he had a dead body), Vegeta pulling this feat off without an such advantage is amazing, and proof of his continuous hard work. It's still a feat regardless, especially for someone who still has to maintain a living body. We also don't know how long he's had it for. For all we know, he could have started training right after they defeated Buu. We've also never gotten confirmation of SSJ3's mastery, and we don't know about their progression.
Honestly, I thought Vegeta was gonna stick with enhancing his Super Saiyan 2 like he does in the Kakarot DLC. Bro was hella broken with that and his unique trend. But hell, I'm down for a Vegeta W here and there.
This is just a theory but hear me out what if the Super Saiyan 3 have a graded system like super saiyan 1 and Goku jumped in the Super Saiyan 3 without completely learning its weakness and what levels of Super Saiyan 3 there possibly might be so he could have jumped into either one of the of graded levels of Super Saiyan 3 something like grade 2 or 3 but Super Saiyan 3 but not fully tested Super Saiyan 3 out and that's why he had a hard time Super Saiyan 3 because he rushed into the transformation without learning the grade levels so what is Super Saiyan 3 is incomplete and Goku didn't fully test test his Transformations without trying to master Super Saiyan 3 and what if Vegeta Super Saiyan 3 is the first level and that's why he's able to have a stamina and speed and strength better than Goku and what is the Vegeta learn the weaknesses of Super Saiyan 3 and he knew the level Goku is at was the weak one that took a lot of energy and he figured that kind of like the graded system that trunks went at knew the weakness and that's why Goku had a hard time fighting Majin Buu and why the Vegeta wanted to tame it but he wanted to find a way where it doesn't take up a lot of stamina and energy and and maybe that's why Vegeta started his training with Super Saiyan 3 trying to find its weakness and test it out so maybe the Super Saiyan 3 we're seeing is just the first form of it or graded 2 and what if Goku Super Saiyan 3 is graded 3 where it's the week form of it and that's what we've been seen Super Saiyan 3 the whole time and like Dragon Ball Heroes which I know that one is not canon but black went Super Saiyan 3 but he went to a Super Saiyan 3 that had eyebrows so what if that Super Saiyan 3 is the master form that we be seeing where it has the eyebrows and it was the complete Super Saiyan 3 but I'm just saying this is just as a theory and I hope that that I don't get blasted from my theory wise and just saying that what if the Super Saiyan 3 are just incomplete and we're not seeing the full Master version of Super Saiyan 3 I know the Creator never explain much about the Super Saiyan 3 and what if they're levels they just created Super Saiyan 3 without explaining its form and what if it had it like a graded level that we don't know know about and Vegeta went to Super Saiyan 3 with no struggle but what if this is not the complete Super Saiyan 3 that Goku went to and the Creator never explained the greatest Super Saiyan 3 so this is just a theory about it nothing more I just wanted to like explain my theory on its form and maybe we might get more explanation about the Super Saiyan 3 better
To be fair by the end of the cell saga to beginning of buu saga goku got ssj2 and ssj3 and vegeta only ssj2, yes eventually vegeta had to get ssj3 but he doesn’t have more control than goku from the beginning
At Least Vegeta Shine against a Elite Opponent and are not a Punchbag of Kid Buu like in DBZ it's a Beautiful day seeing the cry of Goku Stans and I'm mostly a Gohan fan.
So....everyone saying "BUT VEGETA DOESN"T NEED OR WANT SUPER SAIYAN 3?!" - "Super Saiyan 3 is useless" - nope, Vegeta in a child's body still made use of it and won. Take that Super Saiyan 3 haters. It got a significant win finally.
I am very happy with this episode, since ssj3 vegeta is now canon. However, we now have a massive plot hole: if vegeta has ssj3 and it even seems more stable than it ever was for goku, why did he not use it in BoG? The ONLY thing I can think of is that moment when beerus hit bulma, vegeta somehow summoned the power of ssj3 in ssj2 alone. Maybe for some efficiency factor, idk. It's still a plot hole, so what now?
It's not like the fight in ssj3 was that long, only a few blocks and kicks and a gallick gun, all against an obviously way weaker opponent against who he didn't have to go all out. So the stamina issue is pretty much a non factor here. As for why he didn't use it in BoG, he was acting out on pure instinct there. Bulma gets hit, he gets mad and goes to punch beerus immediately. Ssj3 as shown extensively when goku used it and to a lesser degree here takes a lot of focus and time to access. The impatient and enraged vegeta who goes to hit beerus doesn't have the time or focus to access ssj3
I guess we can gloss over whatever stamina it took to use ssj3. The point is, vegeta has it and didn't use it in BoG. So I guess it does come down to convieniency. Akira often forgot his own stuff anyway
We eating good boys. Also i love that the Takagami got powered up then beaten. I was worried that the adversaries were a bit too weak when we saw goku fight the first takagami
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@@SaiyanScholar OOOOOHHH FIRE FIGURES IM FO SURE GETTING 🤌👍
we got vegeta ssj3 before gta 6💀
It only took 30 years.
We better since SSJ3 was first introduced in 1994 😂😂
I was about to say that ☠️
Raging Blast?
@@imasuper2345 same xdd
My guy has the original Ssj3 design.
Dude exactly what I said Toriyama said I like this design too
*abridged nappa voice* "vegeeeta"
@REALGotTheGlock 🤣🤣
But with longer hair.
With spiky and long hair It looks like Goku ssj3 hairs are lazy ☠️
Looks awesome. Would be cool if they incorporate it again into a True Ultra Ego or smth
“At last, i have ascended”-Vegeta GT
SUPER BABY 2 = SSJ3 VEGETA CONFIRMED LMAO
At long last, I’ve ascended
"Well done."-Goku GT
@@SaiyanScholarI've been trying to tell people this forever but I always get ridiculed lol.
“At long last, I’ve ascended”
-SSJ4 Vegeta
"Well done."
-SSJ4 Goku
Finally, dragon Ball daima has accomplished what every vegeta fan has longed to see. The prince of all Saiyans, vegeta, has finally achieved the ssj3 transformation.
@@Aswin0094 due to the anime's placement that means he's always had it even in super, it was just never shown onscreen and I had a feeling lol
@nyew_thrizz I second that. That was the reason why he gave a better fight to Lord Beerus in ssj2 than Goku did in ssj3. Even Master Roshi said that Vegeta was stronger than Goku when fighting Beerus.
Then why didn’t he show it then
No one cares
At least now we know that sparking zero gonna have SSJ3 vegeta as a DLC character
Daima was made so tori could give ss3 a win somewhere.
BS
SS3 is my favourite form
@@SaiyanScholar mine too
SSJ4 is my favorite "the design and the characteristics of Goku becoming more primal like
@TheRefslovesMichaelJordan same here. It fits saiyans perfectly, but I think it should have been the form of legendary ssj.
Vegeta Super Saiyan 3 looks like Sonic.
@@buildaggedonarmanaziie4462 That has it was originally meant to look.
in a good way
He ate the Chaos Emralds!!!!
Super Sonic with blue fur and yellow hair to be exact but yeah I know what you mean lo
It's because he's a kid 😂
Is it me or Arinsu is getting more and more personality per episode
Her character design by Toriyama is pretty good too
she good
Yup🥵
They never show her mouth when dropping spit because fans would turn into something diabolical
akira toriyama really had a parting gift for vegeta. cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy.
also, vegeta literally looks like a sonic char in SSJ3
we haven't seen the rest of daima yet DONT SAY THAT LMAO Nah it was awesome episode.
@@SaiyanScholar still have to watch the episode, and no worries, the suprise of seeing the thumbnail with SSJ3 geets, was as good as watching it later in full.it's like having twice the fun for me.
sorry, i'm still in sonic mode after watching the third one. and with the chibi body, it really has sonic energy, you can't argue with that 😆
i hope they don't squander SSJ4 as an exclusive demon realm sayian tranformation, which is what many ppl seem to believe will happen. i'd prefer if they gave the form to broly, as in, if he ascends, cause, it would make a lot of sense, since he can tap into the great ape power, without ape-ing out. easy breezy explanation, he first learns to stabilize LSSJ, and then puts the great ape energy on top of it.
a new fusion makes the most sense for the ending, cause why else would the fusion bugs be there. duu's gonna eat luu or whatever the other one is called, and then they will have to fuse, just don't know if it's gonna be kaio and goku or geets and goku.
Vegeta just had to surprise us before 2025. 😂🔥🔥🔥
Keep it coming!
we got ssj3 vegeta before gta 6 😭🙏
@@BCCSquidward Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta can also be seen as a late Christmas present
I love how unique his form looks compared to gokus ssj3.
They made a way to make it distinct and yet natural to his design. Can't wait to see what's next
I like that it's as ridiculously long as Goku or Gotenks to the point of reaching his legs.
I think Majin Kuu is plotting to absorb Majin Duu instead of the other way around, we just found out who the brains of the two are!
You're probably mostly right. I think he will absorb him, but I dont think he is planning it. The fact that he seemed to forget that he helped after arinsu said he didnt indicated to me that he isnt as in control as everyone thinks
Like he could just go crazy all of a sudden and absorb duu. He's definitely got some brains in there and the fusion should be very interesting
@@calvinwilson3617 He was made with her saliva. Her saying he didn't do anything had him believe he didn't do anything.
Super kuu
@calvinwilson and MovieGasm no I think Kuu just agreed with her in order to play dumb and keep their party’s progress going. If Kuu doesn’t absorb Duu (and perhaps even turn on what’s her face) I think they’ll combine into one for sure and then obviously Goku and Vegeta will fuse and that’s gonna be sick to see the result of a new fusion type.
Also Piccolo will probably get a new power up from Nether and he’ll have his tile to shine. These next eight episodes are gonna be very interesting/good.
@MovieGasm actually, another possibility: what if arinsu actually has some sort of inherent control over kuu that neither is aware of
Like she gave him a command like the jedi "these aren't the druids you're looking for"
I'm actually excited to see what happens for once
First, Goku
Then, Gotenks
Now, Vegeta
The best version yet!
@@SaiyanScholargotenks holds that
@@JustxLiving909Goku holds it
@@JustxLiving909Goku and Gotenks SSJ3 is a completely useless. Vegeta with SSJ3 was able to win. Plus, he has the original design of SSJ3. 100% Vegeta with SSJ3 is the best version
@@Olya0247gotenks followed by vegeta then goku
PEAK EPISODE
VEGETA COOKED
BRO REGAINED HIS AURA 💥💥
Vegeta wasn't out of breath after using Super Saiyan 3
I mean what kind of a training he did he do ?
☠️
FANTASTIC 10/10
How many push ups, how many sit ups, what juice did he drink!
@@REALGotTheGlock he trained all day yesterday
@@REALGotTheGlock we are not dealing with an average Saiyan Prince any more ☠️
This isn't the result of paltry training. THIS. IS. DESTINY.
I may be wrong, but isn’t this the first time SSJ3 actually won a fight? Isn’t that the number one complaint about the form, it never defeated anyone until now?
Canonically? Yes
Given that the movies are a different timeline no it isnt the first time it has won but within the current timeline yes it is
@@SageOfLimitlessHands stop with this different timeline bs
@allindbz Except it isn't bs unless you are calling the creator a liar lol
@@allindbz been a huge Dragonball fan since it aired on WB in the early 90s. Watched all of Z in Japanese dub, then GT and so forth. This is the first time I've ever heard about different timelines. I feel like the entire series is an isolated chronological order of events that are either canon or not.
Finally Vegeta gets a well deserved victory
Now SSJ3 Vegeta is officially canon and lines up with Super when he indirectly scoffed at about the form that now he canonically transformed himself and knows 1st hand the drawbacks beyond seeing it.
I do wonder since he’s a kid, that’s why he doesn’t have the super long hair, but almost is looking like it’s taken from the Beast form with the long spike in the middle there.
Also 200% SSJ3 Vegeta will be in Xenoverse 2’s next dlc, along with Sparking Zero.
It’s the original design style AK wanted to
It’s the original design style AK wanted
@Arjr72well it looks stupid no wonder he switched it.
@@mcgeeyeeeyeee It's tuff ngl but everyone has their own opinion.
There was a lot of references in Super that Vegeta never even learned it. So no it doesent really tie into Super. Vegeta would of used 3 against Beerus even with the drawbacks because it has more power. Which is why even Goku used 3 against Beerus there first time. They need to do a lot of retconning to fix what they just did here. I love dragon ball but im not gonna glaze it for everything lol.
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Goku: Hey Vegeta, looks like you're catching up, hope you don't mind if I...
Tamagami 1 might be stronger than 2, but not as you made him look. tamagami 2 got a boost in power by his creator, which is what forced Vegeta to go SSJ3
@@SaiyanScholar I'm happy with this transformation, honestly. I wanna see a worm fusion ahah
@@SaiyanScholar I mean I guess mine as well 🤣 to me Daima is starting to not make sense.
@@SaiyanScholar it will never happen son
Oh boy are we ready for the swarm of ssj3 Vegeta toys we'll get? And don't forget the inevitable DLC for Xeno and Sparking
I loved the design, this episode is one of my favorites easily
Edit: Getting into some head canon here, what if his hair being less long has something to do with keeping it stable? or it could just be a meaningless variant, maybe we'll find out exactly how he achieved it
And db legends units🔥👀
It's apparently the original design for SS3 that was never used and side-lined in favour of the design we got in Z.
@@thecoffeemainiak5400what do you mean original design what’s different about it??
Vegeta was all about the mission. He had a mission to accomplish, and he exceeded expectations. This is why Future Trunks is the way he is. He gets it from his Daddy! Sparing between Goku and Vegeta is absolutely going to get very interesting.
A beverage of sorts
This is how SSB Vegeta vs Golden Frieza should have went. No earth explosion bs just finishing the job right then and there
Exactly!
His ssj 3 form looks utterly amazing. It doesn’t even look like ssj 3. Looks like ssj 3 mix with beast with the hair standing up
Cuz they used the original design for ssj3 that toriyama made ( which that was scraped for the other ssj3 design)
Your statement proves why it sucks
@@puzzlebawce795 it doesn't look bad or that it sucks it just unique for vegeta (and plus it's a good way to make use of the old ssj3 design) to top it off that's the 1st time that ssj3 and vegeta got a decent dub even tho it's not canon
@Shockegde Ah, that explains why it looked so different. That's a nice way of giving Vegeta his own SSJ3 look, otherwise he would have wound up looking like SSJ3 Gotenks. Not that anything is wrong with that, but it's nice to see a SSJ3 transformation that looks more unique for its specific user. :3
Now I'm curious as to what an SSJ3 Future Trunks would look like with this original Toriyama SSJ3 design in mind.
@@SniperKing-O oh one more thing most people don't know is that the original ssj3 design supposed to also have a tail too just like ssj4 but I guess toriyama removed it last minute.
I'm calling it now, the finale will have SSJ3 Kid Gogeta.
@@db1777 nah bro that will be Vegetto
ssj3 Gogeta is not going to be in damia maybe Vegtio but gogeta no
SSJ3 Vegito Mini
Hopefully, or Vegito ssj3, either works
Im still hopeing for a shin fusion
We got ssj 3 vegeta before GTA 6
Vegeta Glazing Olympics Finalist
@@zed54 I'm a finalist too 😭🙏
Lmao
I love how Goku and Vegeta solved their "mini games", they might not be mathematicians exactly, but they're not dumb either, and cannot be easily fooled
Vegeta almost looks like Beast Gohan with that long hair 😂 small head long spikey hair. But in the end i like it 👌🏼
It honestly looks better than Beast Gohan, lol! Give Vegeta white hair and red eyes and he'd rock the Beast look better than Gohan. 😂
Spikey hair gives me electric static vibes.
They used the original design Toriyama made for ssj3 and I love it so much and I miss him i hope whatever notes he left behind are enough to feed the next generation of fans
This is soooo huge guys!!! Do you realize that making him go ssj3 now lines up with vegeta saying its a waste of a transform do to the energy drain which is why he doesnt do it as an adult. But more so than anything it will line up with master ultra ego! Master ultra ego already looks like an imperfect ssj3. Now when he masters ultra ego and it looks like his ssj3 transformation itll canonically make sense! What do yall think?
This is just sad. It just goes to show what an incredible show DBZ was. We will never get anything like that again
I literally jumped out of my seat lmao I could not believe this was happening
just need to make ssj4 canon
I hope ss3 vegeta will be in the sparking zero dlc
Without a doubt. My hope that I'm unsure of is that we'll get an adult SS3 Vegeta.
Vegeta had Super Saiyan 3 the whole time. He just chose not to use it due to the drawbacks
When you get use to it, it has no stamina issues.
@@alishabazz7431but from the sounds of it. When it comes to SSJ3 it takes a long while to Master and get use to SSJ3
No
Goku told Caulifla that SSJ3 was a waste of stamina.. Vegeta said something similar to Trunks as well
No, it's a retcon
These intros are getting more unhinged.
but it's the exact same as the daima intro narrator?!
Basically Raging Blast and SDBH did it first but they ain’t canon.
But yeah it’s a historic moment because it’s the 1st time canonically that’s vegeta turn SSJ3.
We got a super saiyan 3 Vegeta before gta 6
Now it's Gohan's turn.
6:30 the first scene we see of vegeta ever is him eating bug men with nappa LMAO
Looks silly as a kid.
We needed adult Vegeta doing it
😂whatever mini looks amazing
Lol Watch Super Dragon Ball Heroes For That
Oh sthu it's cool😂
@@DerriousGamez you're wrong
@@LordCasterwell cope
Yes YES VEGETA FINALLY GETS SOME LOVE I HOPE PICCOLO GETS A CHANCE TO BE BADASS
I feel like Vegeta was actually gassed from transforming and was just capping to Goku about not wanting the Bug. You know his pride and all that
I wanted this so bad but the way they did it just doesn't make sense. Vegeta getting ssj3 is awesome but it just ruins alot of lore dbz made. Maybe I just need to ignore my adult brain and enjoy it like a kid. But the canonical story I grew up with keeps getting retconed by this story witch idk how I feel about.
What part of the lore does this contradict?
I always knew he could go super saiyan 3 but chose not to do so.
Everyone called me crazy and said no proof? Well, this is the proof
I mean it’s a retcon lol so you were kinda delusional no hate tho
@ not retconned. Goku himself avoids using ss3 because of the stamina drain and hence, vegeta avoided using it and went on to completely master ss2.
There’s no reason why in the process of completely mastering ss2, he couldn’t have obtained the ss3 transformation especially if it is within the 4 years time skip before the battle of gods
Not big deal, Super Dragon Ball Heroes show us first SSJ 3 Vegeta 😅
Yes but everybody constantly said "What's the point!" and "It's non-canon" and blalala and also that Vegeta wouldn't want the form
this makes vegeta #2 more believable with ssj3. nobody said he was stronger than goku until bog with his rage ssj2. i guess he kept this a secret like goku did to him lol but bulma knew?
7:00 to be fair GT Goku also was like a quintillion times stronger than this Vegeta and he had to manage that in his child body. Not to mention that any stamina issue was removed with the tail.
Dis! Dis. :3
Vegeta's always been a smarter technician than goku. So it's not surprising that he knows how to better utilize super saiyan 3.
Ssj grade 3 enters the chat.
@@mcgeeyeeeyeee Vegeta never used grade 3. He used grade 2.
In the buu saga Goku was smarter, Vegeta should been the first ssj3, it was bad writing an intelligent fighter like Goku would use such a taxing form, not saying Vegeta isn’t a smart fighter but his arrogance gets in the way
@@1ce867 it was easier for goku because he was dead.
How has vegeta ever been the smarter technician? For his entire life until namek he relied on his raw power to win fights, with his only support technique being the fake moon. Meanwhile goku was constantly fighting opponents stronger than him, having to rely on his smarts and techniques to fight. Then in the cell saga, vegeta prioritizes raw power again with grade 2, his only sign of intelligence being not using grade 3. Goku has the same feat and had the better strategy to improve super saiyan with grade 4. Then in the buu saga, vegeta constantly lets his pride get in the way of the smart strategy, especially when he willingly turns majin and when he makes a fuss about fusing. Then we go into super's goku black arc where goku is shown being the one to improve upon ssj blue. And their current forms are the embodiement of that. Ultra ego is raw power while ultra instinct is movement and technique based, requiring full emotional control to achieve. Vegeta is constantly shown as the more brute force fighter compared to goku who is shown as a more technical fighter
I know that this new form of Vegeta is based on Akira Toriyama's old concept of SSJ3 before the final design for the Buu arc story, but this new form looks more like Super Saiyan 2.5 with a "Beast"-like hairstyle and no eyebrows rather than Super Saiyan 3 for some reason. It's probably because of his kid body in his SSJ3 form that makes him look like this for this reason.
Finally Goku wasn't the main character
Its his show
It's about time he was given the form in an actual anime, and one that Toriyama was involved with writing before he died no less. And not only that, but he gave the form its best showing to this day, since it actually wins him the fight (while Goku was allegedly unable to finish his fight with Fat Buu before his time ran out during Z).
Even if Daima so far has had questionable moments on par with the Zamasu arc. Though for me, Daima and GT's questionable moments were just that, moments. Unkike the Zamasu arc, which had me questioning the writing from beginning to end, to the point that I feel both Toyotaro and Toei botched the outline Toriyama gave them for that arc.
I was so hype to see him finally shine as SSJ3. I can't lie. Brought me in my feels a little.
Is it just me or does Vegeta's Super Saiyan 3 form look almost similar to the original drawing that Akira Toriyama had done for the concept when he gave it to Goku first.
This is a direct retcon?????
im commenting late but cmon with the spoilers on the thumbnail almost immediately after it aired man, not everyone can watch on launch and i know you need to get your clicks but god damn i wish i couldve been excited about the first time ive ever seen vegeta powers up to ssj3 when i finally got time to watch today but i already knew what was happening...
Makes sense why in the manga Goku thought Gohan Beast was in SS3 before they fought.
love that vegeta's super saiyan 3 looks like one of the concepts for it
the real ? is will there ever be a real adult ssj3 vegeta or will they keep it specifically to his kid version
1:30 people dont understand that it takes time to get to the fun stuff, this is only 12 episodes btw tbh its a really good show
I believe Toriyama sensei enjoyed just writing arcs that was more episodic. Having continuity as DBS, where there are far more limitations in story telling. So having retcons like this was more the alley of Toriyama sensei. So having these changes to the DB continuity makes it harder to predict the plot. Having Daima as a separate universe would be more beneficial to the series..
All this stuff with Vegeta just makes me further question why this dude always has an inferiority complex with Goku? Seriously, this is the guy that always gets upset when Goku surpasses him and let himself become Majin all because of his inferiority complex with Goku. And yet he pulls shit like this and still whines when Goku gets stronger? Bruh.
He's a prince being upstaged by commoner. It's not hard to figure out.
Well, Daima comes after Buu Saga. Did you forget Vegeta's speech about Goku : "You're number one", when Vegeta admitted that Goku was stronger in the fight against Kid Buu? Vegeta didn't have SSJ3 back then. Vegeta learned to respect Goku as a warrior and they have a healthier rivalry in Super. Vegeta is the prince of all Saiyans. It's natural that he wants to be the strongest. His original goal in Z was to gain immortality, overthrow and take revenge on Frieza, and rule the Universe as the strongest Saiyan in the world. In their first fight, Goku won unfairly because he had help from Krillin, Gohan, and Yajirobe. It was the low-class Saiyan who asked Krillin to spare Vegeta. This hurt Vegeta's pride. Then Goku became the first Saiyan in 1000 years to unlock Super Saiyan. He also defeated Frieza. The first fight, the transformation, defeating Frieza, the fact that Goku achieves transformations earlier. All this was the beginning of Vegeta's hatred for Goku. Even though Goku never won a single 1v1 fight against Vegeta, Vegeta still felt weaker than Goku. But during the Buu Saga, this changed and in Super too. Although Vegeta still wants to be the strongest, he is not obsessed with rivalry with Goku. His main goal is to defeat Black Frieza
Honestly I don't see Bulma solving that math equation so quickly. Kuu could actually be the smartest character yet.
Also why does SSJ3 look like beast now 💀
I assume Goku can do the exact same thing. But i would prefer Vegeta being able to control SSJ3 better than Goku
I like the video game version better.
Raging Blast is sick!!!
I don't know the design of this one in more in line with the original design for ssj3 and it works way better than the outrageously long hair that goku gets and it makes the distinction of ssj3 goku and vegeta
I like that it looks more unique than the other SS3s
Xeno Vegeta is the GOAT
i fucking knew it that they had something in their sleeve for Vegeta
Makes me wonder if the design change is a hint at a mastered form of SSJ3 that solves the stamina drain issue.
My guy! Please, please just add supa sayajin FOUR. Screw the rules and add ssj 4 Gegeta.
One thing I don’t understand about this is that this Vegeta is supposed to be the events after majin buu in super he couldn't go super saiyan 3 🤨
It is never stated by anyone in Super that he cannot use Super Saiyan 3.
That’s cool but he achieved Super Saiyajin 4, God, Blue, Blue Evolve, Ego in the Super manga, and other Blue evolved forms in the Heroes game. He went above and beyond, so to me personally, not that much interested but it was pretty cool, I think it’s neat. Feel like he should’ve had this in Super (anime and manga).
If Kuu & Duu fuse will they be Majin KuuDuu or DuuKuu like Count Dooku of Star Wars? Lol
Okay I'm pretty impressed with ssj3 but can he use it after this im confused 🤔
I hate this, SSJ3 is supposed to be only Goku's form that he achieved after training for 20 years in the otherworld and Vegeta just achieved like that?
Goku is a low class warrior
yeah. like a week after he was getting wrecked by buu in SSJ2 lol. none of it makes sense, toei is just treating dragon ball like a tumblr or deviantart now lol
Toriyama never said that SSJ3 is just a form for Goku, like it was with Ultimate Gohan or Beast Gohan. Gotenks in Z also reached SSJ3. Goku in another world took 7 years with all the advantages, and Vegeta 8 years. He also trained himself for these 7 years plus another 1 year after the events of the Buu Saga and Daima is just coming. Also Daima comes before Super
Not 20, 7 years. Vegeta has literally trained for just as long.
Are we forgetting about Gotenks?
Cool animation but....The Super Saiyan 3 design looks off...He looks like Sonic💬The hair suppose to be much longer...The Daima one looks like that one Trunks used against Cell...🗣️
Apparently from what I heard and have been reading, this look was the original design for ssj3
Did anyone feel his Super Saiyen 3 kinda resemble Beast
Ssj3 Vegeta >> Ultra (Toyotaro’s Fan Fiction) Ego
SS3 Vegeta is Toriyama's fan fiction. Keep coping.
Why they do his hair like that?
Because it looks cool. It's a mix between the beta SS3 design and Vegeta's grade 2 hair.
Does anyone else feel like while goku was away in the demon realm, Vegeta was training in a hyperbolic time chamber?
WTF? Why are they little kids?
Their base is weaker as children so the multiplier that SSJ1, 2 and 3 doesn't have as big as an effect. Vegeta told Goku a few ep back that they couldn't win against the kraken, he is saying this with SSJ3 in his pocket.
I think it's safe to say that even Buu saga characters could fight and win against the Kraken without to much trouble. These characters have gone from snapping planets away to being troubled by wildlife so I don't think Vegeta SSJ3 in Daima is stronger than GT Goku.
Vegeta is an absolute prodigy though, getting SSJ1 in 2+ years, SSJ2 prob soon after Gohan and SSJ3 in a year is insane. Just has to see it.
i usually don’t care for deep theory power scaling but that all actually makes decent sense 👍 also a reasonable explanation for why these demon world randoms seem kid buu level but actually aren’t
Duu and Kuu are amazing I really hope they don’t die cuz they seem so innocent albeit misguided. Maybe Arinsu isn’t actually evil and the Majin bros are gonna be alright I really like them and don’t want them to get obliterated
We don't have a timeframe at all for reference when Goku obtained SSJ3. It's within that 7 year gap, but we don't know if it was 3 or 2 or 6 years into that timeskip.
But still, I do agree even if Goku got it like a month after he died (unlikely but possible since he had a dead body), Vegeta pulling this feat off without an such advantage is amazing, and proof of his continuous hard work. It's still a feat regardless, especially for someone who still has to maintain a living body.
We also don't know how long he's had it for. For all we know, he could have started training right after they defeated Buu. We've also never gotten confirmation of SSJ3's mastery, and we don't know about their progression.
Vegeta was Shining and not being over shined by Goku. I'm so glad, the whole time I was like please let Vegeta Shine and not throw him to the wayside.
I didn’t think vegeta would solve the puzzle
Honestly, I thought Vegeta was gonna stick with enhancing his Super Saiyan 2 like he does in the Kakarot DLC. Bro was hella broken with that and his unique trend. But hell, I'm down for a Vegeta W here and there.
This is just a theory but hear me out what if the Super Saiyan 3 have a graded system like super saiyan 1 and Goku jumped in the Super Saiyan 3 without completely learning its weakness and what levels of Super Saiyan 3 there possibly might be so he could have jumped into either one of the of graded levels of Super Saiyan 3 something like grade 2 or 3 but Super Saiyan 3 but not fully tested Super Saiyan 3 out and that's why he had a hard time Super Saiyan 3 because he rushed into the transformation without learning the grade levels so what is Super Saiyan 3 is incomplete and Goku didn't fully test test his Transformations without trying to master Super Saiyan 3 and what if Vegeta Super Saiyan 3 is the first level and that's why he's able to have a stamina and speed and strength better than Goku and what is the Vegeta learn the weaknesses of Super Saiyan 3 and he knew the level Goku is at was the weak one that took a lot of energy and he figured that kind of like the graded system that trunks went at knew the weakness and that's why Goku had a hard time fighting Majin Buu and why the Vegeta wanted to tame it but he wanted to find a way where it doesn't take up a lot of stamina and energy and and maybe that's why Vegeta started his training with Super Saiyan 3 trying to find its weakness and test it out so maybe the Super Saiyan 3 we're seeing is just the first form of it or graded 2 and what if Goku Super Saiyan 3 is graded 3 where it's the week form of it and that's what we've been seen Super Saiyan 3 the whole time and like Dragon Ball Heroes which I know that one is not canon but black went Super Saiyan 3 but he went to a Super Saiyan 3 that had eyebrows so what if that Super Saiyan 3 is the master form that we be seeing where it has the eyebrows and it was the complete Super Saiyan 3 but I'm just saying this is just as a theory and I hope that that I don't get blasted from my theory wise and just saying that what if the Super Saiyan 3 are just incomplete and we're not seeing the full Master version of Super Saiyan 3 I know the Creator never explain much about the Super Saiyan 3 and what if they're levels they just created Super Saiyan 3 without explaining its form and what if it had it like a graded level that we don't know know about and Vegeta went to Super Saiyan 3 with no struggle but what if this is not the complete Super Saiyan 3 that Goku went to and the Creator never explained the greatest Super Saiyan 3 so this is just a theory about it nothing more I just wanted to like explain my theory on its form and maybe we might get more explanation about the Super Saiyan 3 better
To be fair by the end of the cell saga to beginning of buu saga goku got ssj2 and ssj3 and vegeta only ssj2, yes eventually vegeta had to get ssj3 but he doesn’t have more control than goku from the beginning
I've always felt that Vegeta CAN go SSJ3 after BoG and Ressurection F, but it was a matter of when than if. I feel so happy seeing him show it off.
Piccolo is probably there to make the 3 man fusion look ugly with goku and vegeta. All green and crap
Nobody is wondering why Vegeta's SSJ3 looks different than Goku's?
More like a plot hole and a dumb fan service they should’ve left that thing unCanon
Vegeta fans eating good with this one.
Ngl, i myself was hyped up
ssj3 fusion incoming???
At Least Vegeta Shine against a Elite Opponent and are not a Punchbag of Kid Buu like in DBZ it's a Beautiful day seeing the cry of Goku Stans and I'm mostly a Gohan fan.
Its a ssj3 bargain sale
So....everyone saying "BUT VEGETA DOESN"T NEED OR WANT SUPER SAIYAN 3?!" - "Super Saiyan 3 is useless" - nope, Vegeta in a child's body still made use of it and won.
Take that Super Saiyan 3 haters. It got a significant win finally.
"Super Saiyan 3? I don't skip dat."
I am very happy with this episode, since ssj3 vegeta is now canon. However, we now have a massive plot hole: if vegeta has ssj3 and it even seems more stable than it ever was for goku, why did he not use it in BoG? The ONLY thing I can think of is that moment when beerus hit bulma, vegeta somehow summoned the power of ssj3 in ssj2 alone. Maybe for some efficiency factor, idk. It's still a plot hole, so what now?
Gotenks didn't use SSJ3 in either the movie or anime version, it's mostly Plot induced stupidity. After that he just "Didn't use it".
It's not like the fight in ssj3 was that long, only a few blocks and kicks and a gallick gun, all against an obviously way weaker opponent against who he didn't have to go all out. So the stamina issue is pretty much a non factor here. As for why he didn't use it in BoG, he was acting out on pure instinct there. Bulma gets hit, he gets mad and goes to punch beerus immediately. Ssj3 as shown extensively when goku used it and to a lesser degree here takes a lot of focus and time to access. The impatient and enraged vegeta who goes to hit beerus doesn't have the time or focus to access ssj3
I guess we can gloss over whatever stamina it took to use ssj3. The point is, vegeta has it and didn't use it in BoG. So I guess it does come down to convieniency. Akira often forgot his own stuff anyway
Tamagami 2 had his potential unlocked guru style during the episode, no 3 could have had more power if his potential was unlocked also 🤔
First Broly and Gogeta, now THIS?! What are they gonna make canon next? Mira and Towa? Super Saiyan 4? Pump Daddy C (Cooler)?!
We eating good boys. Also i love that the Takagami got powered up then beaten. I was worried that the adversaries were a bit too weak when we saw goku fight the first takagami