In this song, Damon's Orpheus is shattered with the grief of losing Eurydice, whereas Reeve's Orpheus is angry and desperate and still willing to fight the system that took her away. I love both, but the differences are fascinating
This is absolutely the song Orpheus mourns the "death" of Eurydice. Wait For Me was sung like he was in denial and refused to give her up, but this... He's in agony from losing the love of his life being six feet under.
Well I mean not to be an ass about it and I'm truly sorry if I come across as one, but wait for me was supposed to be the like "well I'll go get her back then" he isn't quite aware that she belongs to Hades at that point. This is his song of mourning, he starts off grieving her and then slowly convinces himself that he might be able to steal her back somehow. That Hades is tricking him.
The way I feel about both versions is this one is the one that convinced Persophone to try to bargain with Hades. The sorrow here is so pognient. The Broadway version was the one that made the workers rise up.
Both versions of this song are great, I love them so much. But the desperate sound of Orpheus in this one is just more powerful. The lack of hope. This is the true low that Broadway missed. Orpheus needed to lose hope. I felt he was almost too naive and almost immediately bounced back in the Broadway version.
Honestly, Damon Daunno is my favorite Orpheus. Hands down. His ability to convey such raw emotions using nothing but his angelic voice. What a fantastic performer. The main reason why the Broadway version will never top the 2017 recording for me.)
I was listening to both versions of Apple Music and realized the song just wasn't what I remembered. Then I realized the original cast soundtrack didn't include this and I was only listening to the Broadway version. This version of the song is just so much more raw and beautiful.
I love the desperation in this song better than the other version. Both are great, but the lyrics in this one and performance are so powerful. I mean like, "Take this music and the memory of the muse from which it came"?! That's freaking good writing.
This song is my favorite. Epic iii is arguably the best song but there's something about Orpheus' grief that makes this song hit harder. As someone in love with The Arts some of the lines hit very close to home. He lost her and therefore his inspiration and he would never be able to use his talents and passion the same way again
I’ll never forgive them for changing this song as much as they did for Broadway. The grief is so audible and wonderfully expressed. It’s /this/ song that expresses all of his love that moves the workers and Persephone to help him.
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY I think that the Broadway version really bastardized this show, call me an idiot, but nothing is ever going to compare to the original cast.
But the point in the broadway version is that he's challenging the belief that it's true. Because of his grief and his love the workers listened to him, and knowing that they were listening to him made him speak up again..... Sorry, that's just my feeling. They're both beautiful.
Marrisa plays yeah I kinda understand WHY they changed it, but as a stand alone song that is meant to convey his grief and move hades this and the concept version rly work a lot better. Reeve doesn’t really get enough chances to get as emotional as Orpheus is meant to be.
1:24 I HAVE LEGIT CHILLS RIGHT NOW in the 2012 version of this song Orpheus just sounded super depressed but DAMN this actor (sry idk his name) is really good at being sad and singing beautifully at the same time.
I dont think Justin sounded depressed. It was a different expression of grief and a different range. that being said Damon knocked this out of the park
@@spinalc0rds it seemed very work-shopped, I know that this is a live performance, but I can't stand when albums sound like the actors are holding back on their more emotional acting for the sake of making their singing voice sound better. Of course that's just my opinion though.
If it's true what they say If my love is gone for good They can take this heart away They can take this flesh and blood Take my mouth that kissed her mouth Take my tongue that sung her praise Take my arms that used to reach out In the dark to where she lay If it's true what they say I'll be on my way If it's true what they say If there's nothing to be done If there's no part to be played If there's no song to be sung Take this voice, take these hands I can't use them anyway Take this music and the memory Of the muse from which it came If it's true what they say I'll be on my way We can all be on our way If it's true what they say But the ones who tell the lies Are the solemnest to swear And the ones who load the dice Always say the toss is fair And the ones who deal the cards Are the ones who take the tricks With their hands over their hearts While we play the game they fix And the ones who speak the words Always say it is the last And no answer will be heard To the question no one asks So I ask you as a brother And I ask you as a friend And I ask you as a lover And I ask you once again Is it true what they say?
When he said 'Take this voice' I nearly screamed "NO!" Nearly understood the wind in the original story that caught him when he tried to kill himself by falling from a cliff and carried him safely and gently down to the ground because it couldn't bear not hearing his voice
agenttheater5 you know your stuff! I’m sad they changed the lyrics from the original version, as others have stated here, the anguish and sorrow felt in the original is unmatched, and Damon Daunno did it so well...
@@conorandquoost8108 I can't decide which I prefer, to they're both equally beautiful and Damon and Reeve are both wonderful singers. Plus I'm sort of glad there was enough of a change between productions.
agenttheater5 I do love the broadway version too, I had the chance to see Reeve as Orpheus when it opened on Broadway, I also really enjoyed the London version which was very similar, I just wished some of the lyrics had stayed the same. But I agree that it’s hard to decide which one is better, both Damon and Reeve have done great things in this role
@@conorandquoost8108 Kind of wish they'd had the full album when they released the live recorded album, would've been nice to have the whole thing. Still, we still have 3 cds to listen to and to love.
I listened to the 2016 version of Hadestown before the Broadway one even came out. I prefer Eva as Eurydice, but I'm sorry Reeve, Damon will always be the real orpheus in my heart.
i honestly love both versions of the song, but the broadway version sounds so much more uplifting than this. you can really feel orpheus's grief. i absolutely love reeve but i wish the incorporated more pain into the broadway recording
@@kenetabansi5016 but it makes no sense why his song touches Persephone's heart and she says "you'd pity poor Orpheus" he doesn't sound very pitiable in the new version
@SnivyLink He was the perfect choice for Anaïs and Rachel's new vision, Anaïs said it herself. The original Orpheus was a real dickhead, and it didn't really work with the newer versions of the play. This Orpheus is more vulnerable and sensible, to contrast with Eurydice as a strong and rational person.
Adami nah kid Dauno is top tier. although Reeve is more popular, Dauno’s characterization is just better and more pleasing to the ear. Reeve’s words in the broadway soundtrack just didn’t deliver (for lack of greater emphasis)
On Broadway The song changes from the loss of Euydice to defiance taking her and workers with him . So I'm asking if it's true I'm asking you I believe there is still a road and still a way I believe there is a way I believe that us together more than any one alone I believe that with each other we are stronger than we know I believe we 're stronger than THEY know I believe that we are many I believe that they are few And it isn't for the few to tell the many what is true So I ask you If it's true what they say I'll be on my way Tell me what to do If it's true If it's true what they say
It’s interesting how they changed the song for Broadway , it always confused me how Persephone likes this sad song when it’s literally about the masses rising up against nobility. (Populist / communist anthem)
I mean Persephone also hates what hades is doing. So I felt hearing his rallying cry gave her the push she needed to stop drinking and really stand up to hades
The Broadway changes to “if it’s true” fits in better with the story 100%. In the Broadway version they are focusing more on the proletarian versus nobility conflict and the current rendition doesn’t speak to that as much. I actually like the Broadway version more.
Shame about Reeve Carney taking over really. I saw the show in London several times, and he just doesn’t try to sing the songs. Only on closing night did he actually not let me down, because he tried. Even then though, his range doesn’t work for the part.
Tina Starlight Reeve took over in the run before London as well. It’s understandable that an actor as young and talented as Damon wouldn’t risk sticking with a musical that isn’t guaranteed success. I believe there are a lot of actors, even new actors that could have done the role justice. I really enjoy Reeve as an actor in general, and even in the Spider-Man musical. He just doesn’t fit for this one.
Laila G Fair enough. It’s without question that he doesn’t have the range or control for any iteration of Orpheus though, and that’s the biggest issue I take with it. In the various shows I saw, his technique meant hitting those notes was a gamble every night, and it showed on nights he decided to sing in lower key and only hit the highs required. He’s too punk for a voice that makes stones weep.
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In this song, Damon's Orpheus is shattered with the grief of losing Eurydice, whereas Reeve's Orpheus is angry and desperate and still willing to fight the system that took her away. I love both, but the differences are fascinating
This is absolutely the song Orpheus mourns the "death" of Eurydice. Wait For Me was sung like he was in denial and refused to give her up, but this... He's in agony from losing the love of his life being six feet under.
AshMewwwwww yep, which is even sadder
Well I mean not to be an ass about it and I'm truly sorry if I come across as one, but wait for me was supposed to be the like "well I'll go get her back then" he isn't quite aware that she belongs to Hades at that point. This is his song of mourning, he starts off grieving her and then slowly convinces himself that he might be able to steal her back somehow. That Hades is tricking him.
The way I feel about both versions is this one is the one that convinced Persophone to try to bargain with Hades. The sorrow here is so pognient. The Broadway version was the one that made the workers rise up.
Both versions of this song are great, I love them so much. But the desperate sound of Orpheus in this one is just more powerful. The lack of hope. This is the true low that Broadway missed. Orpheus needed to lose hope. I felt he was almost too naive and almost immediately bounced back in the Broadway version.
He lost hope in “doubt comes in” not “if it’s true”
I am amazed that we can understand the story as well as we can with all these songs missing from the official postings.
damn the misery from his voice is making me emotional
Honestly, Damon Daunno is my favorite Orpheus. Hands down.
His ability to convey such raw emotions using nothing but his angelic voice. What a fantastic performer.
The main reason why the Broadway version will never top the 2017 recording for me.)
yes i agree, damon will always be the real orpheus in my heart. but, i really love Eva as eurydice.
@@tatertots214 i LOVE Eva's performance too!)) Best part of the Broadway version.
@@naastyaaaaaaaaa i'm also a bigger fan of the 2017 hermes than the broadway hermes, but both are good
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@@tatertots214 there's no "real" Orpheus.
I was listening to both versions of Apple Music and realized the song just wasn't what I remembered. Then I realized the original cast soundtrack didn't include this and I was only listening to the Broadway version. This version of the song is just so much more raw and beautiful.
I love the desperation in this song better than the other version. Both are great, but the lyrics in this one and performance are so powerful. I mean like, "Take this music and the memory of the muse from which it came"?! That's freaking good writing.
Gosh his voice is so emotional and expressive I'm crying
O m g same.
Btw I love your name.
I really just liked your comment cause you're Enjolras and I couldn't help myself.
This song is my favorite. Epic iii is arguably the best song but there's something about Orpheus' grief that makes this song hit harder. As someone in love with The Arts some of the lines hit very close to home.
He lost her and therefore his inspiration and he would never be able to use his talents and passion the same way again
this is my favorite song too :D
I’ll never forgive them for changing this song as much as they did for Broadway. The grief is so audible and wonderfully expressed. It’s /this/ song that expresses all of his love that moves the workers and Persephone to help him.
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY
I think that the Broadway version really bastardized this show, call me an idiot, but nothing is ever going to compare to the original cast.
But the point in the broadway version is that he's challenging the belief that it's true. Because of his grief and his love the workers listened to him, and knowing that they were listening to him made him speak up again..... Sorry, that's just my feeling. They're both beautiful.
@@agenttheater5 I agree with you, I honestly can't choose between the two. they both sing of a different perspective of his tragedy.
Marrisa plays yeah I kinda understand WHY they changed it, but as a stand alone song that is meant to convey his grief and move hades this and the concept version rly work a lot better. Reeve doesn’t really get enough chances to get as emotional as Orpheus is meant to be.
@@Iycoris 100% agreed
1:24 I HAVE LEGIT CHILLS RIGHT NOW in the 2012 version of this song Orpheus just sounded super depressed but DAMN this actor (sry idk his name) is really good at being sad and singing beautifully at the same time.
His name is Damon Daunno!
I dont think Justin sounded depressed. It was a different expression of grief and a different range. that being said Damon knocked this out of the park
@@spinalc0rds it seemed very work-shopped, I know that this is a live performance, but I can't stand when albums sound like the actors are holding back on their more emotional acting for the sake of making their singing voice sound better.
Of course that's just my opinion though.
He's crying and now I'm crying and everyone's crying
If it's true what they say
If my love is gone for good
They can take this heart away
They can take this flesh and blood
Take my mouth that kissed her mouth
Take my tongue that sung her praise
Take my arms that used to reach out
In the dark to where she lay
If it's true what they say
I'll be on my way
If it's true what they say
If there's nothing to be done
If there's no part to be played
If there's no song to be sung
Take this voice, take these hands
I can't use them anyway
Take this music and the memory
Of the muse from which it came
If it's true what they say
I'll be on my way
We can all be on our way
If it's true what they say
But the ones who tell the lies
Are the solemnest to swear
And the ones who load the dice
Always say the toss is fair
And the ones who deal the cards
Are the ones who take the tricks
With their hands over their hearts
While we play the game they fix
And the ones who speak the words
Always say it is the last
And no answer will be heard
To the question no one asks
So I ask you as a brother
And I ask you as a friend
And I ask you as a lover
And I ask you once again
Is it true what they say?
When he said 'Take this voice' I nearly screamed "NO!" Nearly understood the wind in the original story that caught him when he tried to kill himself by falling from a cliff and carried him safely and gently down to the ground because it couldn't bear not hearing his voice
agenttheater5 you know your stuff! I’m sad they changed the lyrics from the original version, as others have stated here, the anguish and sorrow felt in the original is unmatched, and Damon Daunno did it so well...
@@conorandquoost8108 I can't decide which I prefer, to they're both equally beautiful and Damon and Reeve are both wonderful singers. Plus I'm sort of glad there was enough of a change between productions.
agenttheater5 I do love the broadway version too, I had the chance to see Reeve as Orpheus when it opened on Broadway, I also really enjoyed the London version which was very similar, I just wished some of the lyrics had stayed the same. But I agree that it’s hard to decide which one is better, both Damon and Reeve have done great things in this role
@@conorandquoost8108 Kind of wish they'd had the full album when they released the live recorded album, would've been nice to have the whole thing. Still, we still have 3 cds to listen to and to love.
oh god this song is just so gorgeous. Damon Daunnos voice was just so perfect for Orpheus
2:39 from this moment on I can’t listen to this without crying. His voice sounds absolutely broken. This song is beautiful.
i wanted to see him act this out, if i can get goosebumps from the audio alone, i'll be somersaulting all the way to hadestown
And just like that, my heart broke
I listened to the 2016 version of Hadestown before the Broadway one even came out. I prefer Eva as Eurydice, but I'm sorry Reeve, Damon will always be the real orpheus in my heart.
i honestly love both versions of the song, but the broadway version sounds so much more uplifting than this. you can really feel orpheus's grief. i absolutely love reeve but i wish the incorporated more pain into the broadway recording
I mean they are doing two different things. Reeves version is meant to be more uplifting
@@kenetabansi5016 but it makes no sense why his song touches Persephone's heart and she says "you'd pity poor Orpheus" he doesn't sound very pitiable in the new version
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Heartbreak shakes even the bastards.
I can’t wait for the professional recording of this it’s just so beautiful
@SnivyLink Dont you dare to bash on the God that is Reeve Carney
@SnivyLink He definetely does. He's voice is just different than dauno's. And I like that. Theater shouldn't always be the same.
@SnivyLink He was the perfect choice for Anaïs and Rachel's new vision, Anaïs said it herself. The original Orpheus was a real dickhead, and it didn't really work with the newer versions of the play. This Orpheus is more vulnerable and sensible, to contrast with Eurydice as a strong and rational person.
@SnivyLink I couldn't disagree more, but yeah, your opinion.
Adami nah kid Dauno is top tier. although Reeve is more popular, Dauno’s characterization is just better and more pleasing to the ear. Reeve’s words in the broadway soundtrack just didn’t deliver (for lack of greater emphasis)
I miss this show
On Broadway The song changes from the loss of Euydice to defiance taking her and workers with him .
So I'm asking if it's true
I'm asking you
I believe there is still a road and still a way
I believe there is a way
I believe that us together more than any one alone
I believe that with each other we are stronger than we know
I believe we 're stronger than THEY know
I believe that we are many I believe that they are few
And it isn't for the few to tell the many what is true
So I ask you
If it's true what they say
I'll be on my way
Tell me what to do
If it's true
If it's true what they say
Thank you for posting this! This is my fave on the concept album, so I'm glad we can hear the cast sing it :D
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This song is sooooo emotional mAN
How did y’all even get this? Did an audience member record it?
It’s interesting how they changed the song for Broadway , it always confused me how Persephone likes this sad song when it’s literally about the masses rising up against nobility. (Populist / communist anthem)
I mean Persephone also hates what hades is doing. So I felt hearing his rallying cry gave her the push she needed to stop drinking and really stand up to hades
MY WEAK HEART
Is this after come home with me or at the end?
After nothing changes, which comes after come home with me
But this isn’t on the live album
Every change they made to this song made it worse. Especially the lines like "we hear him" and "were standing near him"
The Broadway changes to “if it’s true” fits in better with the story 100%. In the Broadway version they are focusing more on the proletarian versus nobility conflict and the current rendition doesn’t speak to that as much.
I actually like the Broadway version more.
It literally didn’t. I find the song better as a chorus it’s uplifting it’s him deciding to fight. It makes sense
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When does this song come in the story?
Before Chant II I believe
ebuscus567 after nothing changes and before papers (hades finds out)
@@envycentral7281 thank you
Shame about Reeve Carney taking over really. I saw the show in London several times, and he just doesn’t try to sing the songs. Only on closing night did he actually not let me down, because he tried. Even then though, his range doesn’t work for the part.
Ha strongly disagree but ok
It's actually strange because there's actually a giant following for the Hadestown album in the UK yet we didn't get Damon.
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Reeve took over in the run before London as well. It’s understandable that an actor as young and talented as Damon wouldn’t risk sticking with a musical that isn’t guaranteed success.
I believe there are a lot of actors, even new actors that could have done the role justice.
I really enjoy Reeve as an actor in general, and even in the Spider-Man musical. He just doesn’t fit for this one.
@@CynicalCharmer I disagree with you opinion that he doesn't fit this role but each to their own I guess
Laila G
Fair enough. It’s without question that he doesn’t have the range or control for any iteration of Orpheus though, and that’s the biggest issue I take with it. In the various shows I saw, his technique meant hitting those notes was a gamble every night, and it showed on nights he decided to sing in lower key and only hit the highs required. He’s too punk for a voice that makes stones weep.
Reeve's version is so much better, both vocally and lyrically