=) thank you so much for sharing that awesome memory what I would give to go back to an old school dealership where the car company treats you like you’re number one
@@What.its.like. Me and my friend would ride around town in September when the new cars came out, go to all the dealers to see the new cars. They were beautiful and changed about every year. Oh, we rode around town on our bicycles .
My two sons and I did a body on frame restoration of a 50 Dodge four-door coronet. I cruised to car shows and cruises for years in it. Very reliable car. It had the Gyro Matic transmission which was what I thought a piece of automotive history to drive. Very comfortable and spacious and heavy on the turns. Comfortable speed on the open highways was about 50 miles an hour. The 6 V charging system and battery was never a problem with starting the car and sitting in extremely hot weather traffic it never overheated. Good videos keep them up.
The front brakes would pull sometimes which was a pain,that was a common problem with all Chrysler products back then. Breaking power was good but you had to watch out for brake fade. Going down steep hills you had to use engine breaking which they recommended in the owners manual.
Hey, Jay, another great video. One thing to note: the Ford is the Club Coupe model, not the standard two-door sedan. The sedan has a longer greenhouse with roll-down rear windows and more rear legroom. The Club Coupe was much less popular when new, but considered much more desirable today. Also, the Ford's styling was considered much more modern at the time -- smooth rear quarter panels, a "flat" hood, etc. gave a more "of a piece" design that other cars lacked. Both are great cars.
It could be for that I thought that it was a foot pedal but it did go down a little bit when I pushed it down.. thank you so much for filling us in on that
We had a '49 Ford club coupe which we had for three years. My grandmother had a 1950 Dodge Wayfairer two door sedan just as you pictured for eleven years in what was then rural Maryland north of Washington. Today the dirt road that runs by her driveway is a four lane highway serving a suburban community that connects to I-270 Her nine acre property was sold to a developer, the house torn down and houses put up.
Oh wow great story thank you so much for sharing that awesome memory also sharing the perspective of how things changed four-lane road was once a dirt road.. that’s crazy
As far as styling goes- Fords design in 1949 was a radical departure. The fenders no longer were hung on the side of the body but were more integrated into the body. The Dodges fenders are still hung on the side. This was in part why Ford was such a sales success in 1949.
I'm a HUGE Mopar fan, so I should go for the Dodge, but....I do like '49 Ford as well I have to admit. Both being similar I'd have to flip a coin or just buy both! 😆😂
It would be a hard decision that’s why I did that comparison one because they were side-by-side and two they are night and day difference and they never get compared to one another =)
I can see the similarities between the Dodge and my father's 1950 Plymouth, the Dodge being more upscale. My friend's Mom had a 1949 Ford four door sedan so both cars bring back a lot of childhood memories. Thanks for a great video, Jay. BTW top hats were not in style in the 50's, most men wore fedoras.
Agree with Netop: I think you would be hard pressed to find an American man in 1950 wearing a top hat, and certainly not a sombrero! Better find a fedora for your hat test!
Netop: When starting these cars they sure sound identical to each other when cranking the engine. They definitely must have Autolite starting motors and electrical systems.
The Dodge Wayfarer was an unusual short wheelbase model produced only in 2-Door versions. It was considered an entry level Dodge priced like a Plymouth from 1949 to 1952. Senior Dodges also offered 4-Door and Wagon versions and were called Meadowbrook and Coronet, both bigger and more expensive than the Wayfarer.
@@What.its.like. 49 through 54 Mopars were criticized for thier "tall" boxy styling, but it is an illusion, as you discovered. The taller fenders on the Ford make the roof appear to be lower.
The Dodge when looking at the Ford actually looks sleeker it almost gives it the perception of movement when it’s standing still, it’s crazy how much taller the ford is in comparison
S , I agree , In prsnt day th LOOK of almost all co.s look very dull fr vintage lovers. Y….sir. ? Can’t those co.s bring their new version in old stylish look….???
I've never seen these two cars compared to one another. Usually it's Ford vs Chevy. Ford was all new for 1949. Dodge might nave been all new, but the styling was still holding on to early 1940's.
I want to compare a forward look car vs earlier 50s mopar they are night and day just like this is this is like night and day outside the box comparison
Starting the engines of both the Dodge and the Ford both sound identical to each other. They probably both use Autolite starting motors and electrical systems.
Update 12-11-2022 I don’t remember cramped rear seats of my dad’s burgundy 49 Ford because I was under age 6 and he told me crankshafts broke on the Dodge. Based on video I’d buy the Dodge over the Ford. Passenger comfort and economy rule. The 1949 Ford was ground breaking design with simpler straightforward modern lines. The Dodge is a dated post WW 2 design. 49 Ford is one of the first cars I remember my dad owning besides a black Chevy Fleetline with a billiards 8 ball for a column mounted stick shift.
Remember- in 1949 Ford was the entry level car from FoMoCo. The next step up was the Mercury. From Chrysler the Dodge was the second step up the ladder with Plymouth being on par with the Ford. So you would expect the Dodge to be a bit bigger, a bit heavier, a bit nicer finished, and a bit more money. Dodge was equal with the Pontiac or the low priced Oldsmobile. Ford didn't really have the levels of tiers that Chrysler and GM had.
Totally agree these two were parked next to one another and the price points were very similar so I figured why not compare them. One could get a Ford with more options for the price of an entry-level dodge. =)
@@What.its.like. And remember- options were things like radio, heater, rear view mirror on the driver side, RVM on the passenger side, whitewalls, wheel covers-
Everything was optional unless one got the top model depending on make like I just finished up a 59 Plymouth sport fury and it came with some interesting features but it did not come with power steering power brakes or power anything but I’m pretty sure if you got the Chrysler top level I’m not sure if it was the 300 or if it was the New Yorker for 1959 power steering may have came standard
Thank you I wasn’t fond of the squeaking The floor was extremely clean it was the noise my shoes made when contact =) stay tuned December is gonna be a great month epic month loads of 50s cars coming if all goes good
@@What.its.like. I know what your saying but some of the things you point out would not be there if the Ford sedan model was used. The ford is a more modern Design with the Fenders blended into the Body where the Dodge has bolt on rear fenders like a prewar Car.
Great video Jay. Nothing against the Dodge but in 1949 I have to go with the "Whiz Kids" styling FTW As an aside. Are those the soles of your shoes squeaking on the tile? If so, it detracts from the video.
Yeah it was my shoes the next time I shoot videos there I’ll take my shoes off I promise I’ve released all of the videos that I have from Max Motive I believe I take that back there’s one more in the pipeline after that video I promise I’ll take my shoes off next time I go lol =)
@@What.its.like. I have a pair of Nike shoes that do the same exact thing but only on tile floors. I don't know what it is about them but it's very strange. I always have to remember not to wear that pair of shoes if I'm going to be going somewhere where there's tile floors.
Dodge was still using the bolt on rear fenders...also the interior head room in the Dodge was greater with a higher ceiling....it was designed when men still wore hats...
The Dodge is better appointed than the Ford, but I'd still go with the Ford. It has a more up to date look than the Dodge despite being a year older. Besides I'm more of a Ford guy. I guess the best of the Shoebox Fords, though, was its final year, in '51. The bugs that had plagued the earlier models were eliminated. Although the front grille on the '51s reminds me of the bullet bras ladies wore in the fifties.
My favorite Ford from the early 50s is the 52-54 I love those and they are an optical illusion they look small from the outside but they’re huge inside all of the gauge is the instrumentation I wouldn’t mind having one one day but I would go with the overhead valve in line 6 as opposed to the flathead V8
Hey Jay, both of these classic cars are stunning!! Are you sure that the gas filler necks are on the right?? It looked to me that they are on the left side!! (Drivers side) 👍👍🌲
Yeah that was the end of the day and talking wasn’t easy anymore I was doing it for 4 1/2 hours at that point I shot nine cars that day and two comparison videos this was the last video that I shot before I said that I had to go.. lol there were a few more cars that I wanted to do but it was getting late
The gas caps/filler is on the left, not the right fenders of both. Dodge, quiter, smoother, more room inside than the ford than the Ford. How do I know? Dad had both. Back then (early 50's) the 0-60 truly meant little. In town, many spped limits were still 25, some 35, even Rt 66 was 45 when posted. By the way you can thank Tom McCahill from Mechanix illustrated for the 0-60 tests. Personally I think the dash in the dodge is far nicer. Styling? Well they both look good, but the Dodge looks a little longer in the tooth. My Dads Dodge far out lasted the Ford. But as usual, it all comes down to personal preference.
Thank you so much for all your insight I was my brain was pretty fried by that episode I’ve misspoke what I meant to say was the gas filler cap is on the right as in the correct side I don’t like it when it’s on the physical ride side or passenger side I think I shot nine cars that day and two comparison episodes and that was the last one that I shot for the the day..
@@What.its.like. Yep, you've been busy for sure. On the passenger side vs drivers side fueling debate. In side swipes (parked or in right lane) fillers on the right side generally fair far better. Personally? I liked them in the center rear wich I don't think we will ever see again.
@@What.its.like. - The old cars with the filler behind the license tag was a bad thing. It was quite common to see those cars spilling gas on acceleration or going up hills. Very poor form !!
I've seen some vintage ads, print and commercial, of the '49 Ford, and I think it looks pretty cool, although I think I would like the convertible model better. I really prefer that Dodge though, especially after the up close look at it inside. I think the lines of it are great, and the interior looks a lot nicer and more comfortable than the Fords. Cool video 😎 The tunes still stump me . I'm almost certain it's The Supremes, I even searched some of their songs, but still clueless 🤔 😁
Glad you liked this episode I’m digging the images from the new lens they are so smooth, it’s all hand held as well which is just crazy to me Had to make the song I little harder someone said the Beatles song was too easy lol, someone guessed it you were right it is the Supremes song is my world is empty without you
The 49 Ford was the car that saved Ford. It was hugely successful and put Ford in the #2 slot. Dodge would have competed more against the 49 Mercury, which was a beautiful car. Chrysler products were thought to be pretty stodgy at the time. Having said that, the Dodge had a fantastic dash design.
The Ford is a more modern design than the Dodge. Dodge is still stuck in the ‘40s with those rear quarter panels. And the humped hood. In my opinion. But both are fine.
Those flathead engines had already died, but some just didn’t know it, yet. In five years, even the stragglers at Ford would release their OHV engine with cross flow heads. Flatheads belong on lawn mowers, not cars …
Puffy old Ford,' single spinner' they used to be called in OZ. The dodge still has that WWII long wheelbase look, which may have a large rear seat area? The Dodge seems more late 30s, art deco in style, both inside and out. The Ford is a much newer design, but has its downsides with that. The Ford still has the V8, which is a draw for guys, the power stats won't matter. So much psychology involved in cars and the statement they make about the driver? The later 50s and the 60s in particular were where car design became such a dominant thing. At that time, guys formed their allegiances to a car brand, and stuck to it ( in Australia at least) Ford vs GM mainly, but Dodge Plymouth and Valiant were the third American, till Rambler AMC released their Rebel, with the big V8 and stole a few hearts. By that time, Studebaker was gone anyway. An interesting time, with some incredible cars from the UK, like the Bristol (an aircraft company) which made beautiful aluminium cars in the raw, glistening in the sun. The MG sports cars and Triumph Heralds and bug eyes. This was a time when all performance motorbikes were British, and the Japanese cars were starting to trickle in, with all the resentment from WWII still unforgiven. JAP-Crap was what the old timers called them. Till their economy and reliability shone through to break the prejudice. I also remember the Falcon 2 door Futura, and the incredible Mazda 909? With the biggest greenhouse I've ever seen on a car to date. Volvo P1800 sports, the market was wide open, with Renault and Citroën and you name it. The choice was incredible, for a while. Now they all look pretty much the same, for aerodynamics and safety reasons. (good really) At one time we were losing so many championship footballers in crashes in Hemi powered V8 Valiant's, the government was getting fidgety. A different time.
I miss when a car was you now it’s sort of the same but different, like if your poor you drive a 10-20 year old whatever and if you have money car drive an expensive Mercedes that may look just like a Hyundai the commoner won’t know the difference because they all look the same.
I like them both. If I were forced to make a choice, I'd take the Ford. There's a local somewhere around me with a Wayfarer 2 door with no back seat (salesman's car).
Not a fair comparison. The Ford is a "2 door Coupe", a less expensive version, bought by younger people that did not want grandpa's old car. The Dodge is a "2 door sedan" usually bought by young families that needed the extra room. Note that Dodge did make a "2 door coupe" that year, and Ford made a "2 door sedan". Also note that the re-styled Ford for 49 was the hot seller of the year and was a popular hot rod for the younger guys all throughout the 50's (I grew up in the 50's, this was one of my dream cars). Chrysler, Dodge, and Plymouth almost went bankrupt until they modernized their pre-war designs in the early 50's. In fact, the Chrysler President resigned, at the urging of the Board of Directors, due to falling so far behind in sales.
It is - not necessary to read off a slide. The people can see and read the slide fine. You can refer to the slide, and talk about other things. It is typical in say business for style purposes for it to be communicate to people talking in meetings to teach them - do not read the slides.
The slides are made after the fact some of the information in the script isn’t on the slides.. It’s worked this way so far not changing because YOU don’t like it plus some people might put this one and listen in the background, like I said I make the slides it’s more personal to present the slides
The Dodge is definitely a carry over pre-war model, and the Ford in streets ahead, though not as practical for space. Top hats were uncommon, except for the very few, who would not be driving a Ford anyway, just regular hats, that you can see in 40s and 50s movies and that carried over into the 60s and beyond for some men.
What an interesting pair to look at & compare.The Ford seems to be a club coupe (less interior space in the rear passenger compartment, more luggage space), while the Dodge is most likely a 2-door sedan (more interior, less luggage). BTW, if I am not wrong, the Dodge is a Wayfarer, which was a "smaller" Dodge car, based off of a shorter Plymouth chassis. Dodge also made a larger Coronet coupe, which didn't have this weird semi-fastback roof and, as far as I know, shared its central body section with DeSoto and Chrysler cars. It's funny that most modern authors write that the Mopars from this era were "tall and stodgy compared to competition", yet the Ford looks taller and boxier in this comparison. All in all, I like them both, but I've always had a soft spot for K.T. Keller's era MoPars, so as far as I am concerned - the Dodge wins; I especially like the interior - dashboard, square gauges, striped upholstery and all that. However, that said - I still think that the Dodge Coronet coupe looks better than this particular model. The Dodge also looks less "modern" for its age & more like a prewar car, especially the interior; even the door handle functions as it would on a prewar car. So, in its day, it probably would have appealed more to the seniors and more conservative buyers in general; however, in 2022 it makes very little difference ) both are cool old cars.
You're kind of comparing apples and peaches...The Ford would be up against the Plymouth rather than the Dodge. The Ford styling was absolutely revolutionary. Chrysler and GM were still doing separate fenders, while the Ford was completely slab-sided and of a piece. GM and Chrysler was still clinging to the prewar philosophy. Actually, these Dodges were ( to me) absolutely fugly from the rear. The Ford styling is what made it be called the shoebox.
The Dodge in Plymouth shared the same body fort only had three contenders whereas GM and Chrysler had five contenders so there’s a bit of an overlap I always thought the Plymouth and Dodge competed with Ford Mercury competed with higher up dodges such as the cornet, and De Soto.. and Lincoln competed with Chrysler ( imperial wasn’t its own yet) Just wanted to show the huge contrast in these two body designs, The fair of the two comparisons would’ve been the two door Wayfair business coupe.. but that doesn’t have a backseat the two companies didn’t really make a body design that could be compared apples to apples basis I’m not sure about the Plymouth I haven’t been in a 50 Plymouth yet but my knowledge it was the same shell.. just less appointed
The Ford is a year older, yet it looks sleaker, and more modern. Also, you called the Dodge a Chevy when describing the rear fender. I know guys who would lose their minds for that! Lol!
Didn’t have a Plymouth to compare to and ford only had 3 makes GM and Chrysler had 5 each so Plymouth and dodge overlapped in fords range (or at least that’s how I interpreted it) same holds true with Chevy and Pontiac
@@What.its.like. Ford actually TRIED to add two more makes, by introducing EDSEL in ‘58…and spinning off CONTINENTAL from Lincoln in ‘56…but it didn’t work.
The best comparison for this Dodge would be a Mercury, Pontiac or Oldsmobile. The best comparison for the Ford would be a Chevrolet or Plymouth. In this comparison a club coupe was compared with a 2 door sedan so the trunk and back seat comparison was not apples to apples. Both are very nice cars with the Ford being more modern in style as compared to the Dodge for 1949.
You are comparing apples and oranges. Dodge was a higher end vehicle and a higher price point. But you did show how the Ford body was a more modern body. What you took from the Ford was simply the Dodge body was actually early 40's styling.
The Dodge was stilll pre war in styling. Ford started this new design of integrating hood and fender in 49. It took 4 years post war to retool for this new look.
Not quite. The Ford is definitely more modern in appearance for that time, but the Chrysler Corp. cars had had a postwar restyling and were not literally the same as they'd been in the early 1940s.
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Congratulations you got it =)
Loved the 49 and 50 Fords. I remember as a boy going to the Ford dealership and walking around looking at these cars.
=) thank you so much for sharing that awesome memory what I would give to go back to an old school dealership where the car company treats you like you’re number one
@@What.its.like. Me and my friend would ride around town in September when the new cars came out, go to all the dealers to see the new cars. They were beautiful and changed about every year. Oh, we rode around town on our bicycles .
My two sons and I did a body on frame restoration of a 50 Dodge four-door coronet. I cruised to car shows and cruises for years in it. Very reliable car. It had the Gyro Matic transmission which was what I thought a piece of automotive history to drive. Very comfortable and spacious and heavy on the turns. Comfortable speed on the open highways was about 50 miles an hour. The 6 V charging system and battery was never a problem with starting the car and sitting in extremely hot weather traffic it never overheated. Good videos keep them up.
Thank you so much fir sharing your car / experience / memories on here it really means a lot, =)
What did you like and dislike about your car
The front brakes would pull sometimes which was a pain,that was a common problem with all Chrysler products back then. Breaking power was good but you had to watch out for brake fade. Going down steep hills you had to use engine breaking which they recommended in the owners manual.
Awesome thank you so much for sharing all of that useful insight
My '50 is pretty bad for overheating. It was even worse when the radiator was full of acorns!
Hey, Jay, another great video. One thing to note: the Ford is the Club Coupe model, not the standard two-door sedan. The sedan has a longer greenhouse with roll-down rear windows and more rear legroom. The Club Coupe was much less popular when new, but considered much more desirable today. Also, the Ford's styling was considered much more modern at the time -- smooth rear quarter panels, a "flat" hood, etc. gave a more "of a piece" design that other cars lacked. Both are great cars.
Agreed.
Yeah body styles aren’t the same but wanted to do the ford and dodge comparison who knows if I’ll get the chance to do it again =)
11:55 I'd have thought that round pedal at the top would be the windshield washer pump.
It could be for that I thought that it was a foot pedal but it did go down a little bit when I pushed it down.. thank you so much for filling us in on that
Thank you for the tour!Very generous of the seller to allow you to go into these cars, So much better than walking past them at a car show!
Totally agree =)
We had a '49 Ford club coupe which we had for three years. My grandmother had a 1950 Dodge Wayfairer two door sedan just as you pictured for eleven years in what was then rural Maryland north of Washington. Today the dirt road that runs by her driveway is a four lane highway serving a suburban community that connects to I-270 Her nine acre property was sold to a developer, the house torn down and houses put up.
Oh wow great story thank you so much for sharing that awesome memory also sharing the perspective of how things changed four-lane road was once a dirt road.. that’s crazy
As far as styling goes- Fords design in 1949 was a radical departure. The fenders no longer were hung on the side of the body but were more integrated into the body. The Dodges fenders are still hung on the side. This was in part why Ford was such a sales success in 1949.
The grille on the 49 ford was intended to resemble an airplane propeller with the so called bullet nose being the propeller hub.
Awesome observation I never would’ve put those two together =)
5:09 the Chevy ( Dodge) has rock guards.
Yeah, but those rock guards are the same as were on the Chevys … understandable mistake …
I'm a HUGE Mopar fan, so I should go for the Dodge, but....I do like '49 Ford as well I have to admit. Both being similar I'd have to flip a coin or just buy both! 😆😂
It would be a hard decision that’s why I did that comparison one because they were side-by-side and two they are night and day difference and they never get compared to one another =)
I can see the similarities between the Dodge and my father's 1950 Plymouth, the Dodge being more upscale. My friend's Mom had a 1949 Ford four door sedan so both cars bring back a lot of childhood memories. Thanks for a great video, Jay. BTW top hats were not in style in the 50's, most men wore fedoras.
Thank you so much for sharing those memories =)
Agree with Netop: I think you would be hard pressed to find an American man in 1950 wearing a top hat, and certainly not a sombrero! Better find a fedora for your hat test!
Netop: When starting these cars they sure sound identical to each other when cranking the engine. They definitely must have Autolite starting motors and electrical systems.
I'll take both
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The Dodge Wayfarer was an unusual short wheelbase model produced only in 2-Door versions. It was considered an entry level Dodge priced like a Plymouth from 1949 to 1952. Senior Dodges also offered 4-Door and Wagon versions and were called Meadowbrook and Coronet, both bigger and more expensive than the Wayfarer.
I think the Meadowbrook used left over '49 interior stuff. I think it only came in a four door sedan, while the Coronet had a full lineup.
All cars manufactured by Chrysler Corporation from 1949 to 1954 had that boxy and ultraconservative styling.
Totally agree but the ford is taller than the dodge which really surprised me how much taller the ford is
@@What.its.like. 49 through 54 Mopars were criticized for thier "tall" boxy styling, but it is an illusion, as you discovered. The taller fenders on the Ford make the roof appear to be lower.
The Dodge when looking at the Ford actually looks sleeker it almost gives it the perception of movement when it’s standing still, it’s crazy how much taller the ford is in comparison
S , I agree , In prsnt day th LOOK of almost all co.s look very dull fr vintage lovers. Y….sir. ? Can’t those co.s bring their new version in old stylish look….???
I've never seen these two cars compared to one another. Usually it's Ford vs Chevy.
Ford was all new for 1949.
Dodge might nave been all new, but the styling was still holding on to early 1940's.
Like to do outside the norm comparisons
They were both redesigned for '49, but '50 is when Ford passed Mopar for #2, because Chrysler products were deemed stodgy.
Don't remember ever seeing a red Ford. That one looks great however.
They both were great I don’t remember seeing a dodge Wayfair in this shape either
To a modern viewer it is difficult to understand just how revolutionary the 1949 Ford was for Ford Motor Company.
I want to compare a forward look car vs earlier 50s mopar they are night and day just like this is this is like night and day outside the box comparison
In today resale value the Dodge is about $12K vs the Ford resale value is about $25K.
Very true
I love the comparison videos!!!
Thank you I like doing them =)
The Ford is a club coup and the Dodge is a sedan. That is why the difference in seating area.
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Nice =p
Starting the engines of both the Dodge and the Ford both sound identical to each other. They probably both use Autolite starting motors and electrical systems.
Dig it
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Update 12-11-2022
I don’t remember cramped rear seats of my dad’s burgundy 49 Ford because I was under age 6 and he told me crankshafts broke on the Dodge. Based on video I’d buy the Dodge over the Ford. Passenger comfort and economy rule.
The 1949 Ford was ground breaking design with simpler straightforward modern lines.
The Dodge is a dated post WW 2 design.
49 Ford is one of the first cars I remember my dad owning besides a black Chevy Fleetline with a billiards 8 ball for a column mounted stick shift.
I want to do one of those hopefully before this year is over
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Remember- in 1949 Ford was the entry level car from FoMoCo. The next step up was the Mercury. From Chrysler the Dodge was the second step up the ladder with Plymouth being on par with the Ford. So you would expect the Dodge to be a bit bigger, a bit heavier, a bit nicer finished, and a bit more money. Dodge was equal with the Pontiac or the low priced Oldsmobile. Ford didn't really have the levels of tiers that Chrysler and GM had.
Totally agree these two were parked next to one another and the price points were very similar so I figured why not compare them. One could get a Ford with more options for the price of an entry-level dodge. =)
@@What.its.like. And remember- options were things like radio, heater, rear view mirror on the driver side, RVM on the passenger side, whitewalls, wheel covers-
Everything was optional unless one got the top model depending on make like I just finished up a 59 Plymouth sport fury and it came with some interesting features but it did not come with power steering power brakes or power anything but I’m pretty sure if you got the Chrysler top level I’m not sure if it was the 300 or if it was the New Yorker for 1959 power steering may have came standard
Hey Jay, you have really squeaky shoes... LOL Love your videos and always look forward to your reviews.
Thank you I wasn’t fond of the squeaking The floor was extremely clean it was the noise my shoes made when contact =) stay tuned December is gonna be a great month epic month loads of 50s cars coming if all goes good
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Personally, I'm rather partial to the Ford. The Dodge looks somewhat stodgy and dated. The Ford on the other hand, looks a bit more modern.
Can’t go wrong with either =)
The ford you have is a Coupe, you should have had a 2 door Sedan to compare these two it would have been fairer for both!
Thats what I had to work with, not sure If I’d get the chance again to compare these two.
@@What.its.like. I know what your saying but some of the things you point out would not be there if the Ford sedan model was used. The ford is a more modern Design with the Fenders blended into the Body where the Dodge has bolt on rear fenders like a prewar Car.
Great video Jay. Nothing against the Dodge but in 1949 I have to go with the "Whiz Kids" styling FTW
As an aside. Are those the soles of your shoes squeaking on the tile? If so, it detracts from the video.
Yeah it was my shoes the next time I shoot videos there I’ll take my shoes off I promise I’ve released all of the videos that I have from Max Motive I believe I take that back there’s one more in the pipeline after that video I promise I’ll take my shoes off next time I go lol =)
@@What.its.like. I have a pair of Nike shoes that do the same exact thing but only on tile floors. I don't know what it is about them but it's very strange. I always have to remember not to wear that pair of shoes if I'm going to be going somewhere where there's tile floors.
Dodge was still using the bolt on rear fenders...also the interior head room in the Dodge was greater with a higher ceiling....it was designed when men still wore hats...
The crazy thing is when Virgil Exner stepped in the dodge (well all Chrysler products ) go from dated to futuristic with the forward look.
Too bad Dodge salesmen didn't get your notes, you did that car proud. Definitely do the hat test! With a fedora.
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The Dodge is better appointed than the Ford, but I'd still go with the Ford. It has a more up to date look than the Dodge despite being a year older. Besides I'm more of a Ford guy.
I guess the best of the Shoebox Fords, though, was its final year, in '51. The bugs that had plagued the earlier models were eliminated. Although the front grille on the '51s reminds me of the bullet bras ladies wore in the fifties.
My favorite Ford from the early 50s is the 52-54 I love those and they are an optical illusion they look small from the outside but they’re huge inside all of the gauge is the instrumentation I wouldn’t mind having one one day but I would go with the overhead valve in line 6 as opposed to the flathead V8
Hey Jay, both of these classic cars are stunning!! Are you sure that the gas filler necks are on the right?? It looked to me that they are on the left side!! (Drivers side) 👍👍🌲
Right side as in the correct side good catch on that lol =D I don’t like it when the filler is on the passenger side
Nay! You said "right hand side" for the Ford. ;) Also, the Chevy has gravel guards, the Ford doesn't. Love your vids though, forgiveness is divine.
Yeah that was the end of the day and talking wasn’t easy anymore I was doing it for 4 1/2 hours at that point I shot nine cars that day and two comparison videos this was the last video that I shot before I said that I had to go.. lol there were a few more cars that I wanted to do but it was getting late
‘49 Ford vs. ‘50 Dodge … I’ll take the ‘49 Oldsmobile !!
Me too I want to review 850 Oldsmobile before the years and I absolutely love that styling of a 50 olds Don’t even get me started on the wagon
I’d rather push a Dodge/Chevy than drive a ford, but that V8 and lighter curb weight is mighty attractive. Never liked that ford body shape though.
The gas caps/filler is on the left, not the right fenders of both. Dodge, quiter, smoother, more room inside than the ford than the Ford. How do I know? Dad had both. Back then (early 50's) the 0-60 truly meant little. In town, many spped limits were still 25, some 35, even Rt 66 was 45 when posted. By the way you can thank Tom McCahill from Mechanix illustrated for the 0-60 tests. Personally I think the dash in the dodge is far nicer. Styling? Well they both look good, but the Dodge looks a little longer in the tooth. My Dads Dodge far out lasted the Ford. But as usual, it all comes down to personal preference.
Thank you so much for all your insight I was my brain was pretty fried by that episode I’ve misspoke what I meant to say was the gas filler cap is on the right as in the correct side I don’t like it when it’s on the physical ride side or passenger side I think I shot nine cars that day and two comparison episodes and that was the last one that I shot for the the day..
@@What.its.like. Yep, you've been busy for sure. On the passenger side vs drivers side fueling debate. In side swipes (parked or in right lane) fillers on the right side generally fair far better. Personally? I liked them in the center rear wich I don't think we will ever see again.
Totally agree the center was the best when I had my 67 mustang I could pull into gas station either way
@@What.its.like. - The old cars with the filler behind the license tag was a bad thing. It was quite common to see those cars spilling gas on acceleration or going up hills. Very poor form !!
Mustang did that all the time
I've seen some vintage ads, print and commercial, of the '49 Ford, and I think it looks pretty cool, although I think I would like the convertible model better. I really prefer that Dodge though, especially after the up close look at it inside. I think the lines of it are great, and the interior looks a lot nicer and more comfortable than the Fords. Cool video 😎 The tunes still stump me . I'm almost certain it's The Supremes, I even searched some of their songs, but still clueless 🤔 😁
Glad you liked this episode I’m digging the images from the new lens they are so smooth, it’s all hand held as well which is just crazy to me
Had to make the song I little harder someone said the Beatles song was too easy lol, someone guessed it you were right it is the Supremes song is my world is empty without you
The 49 Ford was the car that saved Ford. It was hugely successful and put Ford in the #2 slot. Dodge would have competed more against the 49 Mercury, which was a beautiful car. Chrysler products were thought to be pretty stodgy at the time. Having said that, the Dodge had a fantastic dash design.
Totally agree
The Ford is a more modern design than the Dodge. Dodge is still stuck in the ‘40s with those rear quarter panels. And the humped hood. In my opinion. But both are fine.
The dodge looks sleeker than the ford.. both car good designs ford outsold the dodge by a lot
The Dodge seems more "Dick Tracy" in the styling.
I’ve had them both and the ford was far superior in every aspect
Those flathead engines had already died, but some just didn’t know it, yet.
In five years, even the stragglers at Ford would release their OHV engine with cross flow heads.
Flatheads belong on lawn mowers, not cars …
Think about if they brought back the flathead and turbo charged it flatheads got good gas mileage all things considered
Puffy old Ford,' single spinner' they used to be called in OZ. The dodge still has that WWII long wheelbase look, which may have a large rear seat area? The Dodge seems more late 30s, art deco in style, both inside and out. The Ford is a much newer design, but has its downsides with that. The Ford still has the V8, which is a draw for guys, the power stats won't matter. So much psychology involved in cars and the statement they make about the driver? The later 50s and the 60s in particular were where car design became such a dominant thing. At that time, guys formed their allegiances to a car brand, and stuck to it ( in Australia at least) Ford vs GM mainly, but Dodge Plymouth and Valiant were the third American, till Rambler AMC released their Rebel, with the big V8 and stole a few hearts. By that time, Studebaker was gone anyway. An interesting time, with some incredible cars from the UK, like the Bristol (an aircraft company) which made beautiful aluminium cars in the raw, glistening in the sun. The MG sports cars and Triumph Heralds and bug eyes. This was a time when all performance motorbikes were British, and the Japanese cars were starting to trickle in, with all the resentment from WWII still unforgiven. JAP-Crap was what the old timers called them. Till their economy and reliability shone through to break the prejudice. I also remember the Falcon 2 door Futura, and the incredible Mazda 909? With the biggest greenhouse I've ever seen on a car to date. Volvo P1800 sports, the market was wide open, with Renault and Citroën and you name it. The choice was incredible, for a while. Now they all look pretty much the same, for aerodynamics and safety reasons. (good really) At one time we were losing so many championship footballers in crashes in Hemi powered V8 Valiant's, the government was getting fidgety. A different time.
I miss when a car was you now it’s sort of the same but different, like if your poor you drive a 10-20 year old whatever and if you have money car drive an expensive Mercedes that may look just like a Hyundai the commoner won’t know the difference because they all look the same.
I like them both. If I were forced to make a choice, I'd take the Ford. There's a local somewhere around me with a Wayfarer 2 door with no back seat (salesman's car).
Can’t go wrong with either this era probably only era (and maybe the 80s) where a 6 Cylinder has more power than a V8
The bravery of being out of range!!
Not a fair comparison. The Ford is a "2 door Coupe", a less expensive version, bought by younger people that did not want grandpa's old car. The Dodge is a "2 door sedan" usually bought by young families that needed the extra room. Note that Dodge did make a "2 door coupe" that year, and Ford made a "2 door sedan". Also note that the re-styled Ford for 49 was the hot seller of the year and was a popular hot rod for the younger guys all throughout the 50's (I grew up in the 50's, this was one of my dream cars). Chrysler, Dodge, and Plymouth almost went bankrupt until they modernized their pre-war designs in the early 50's. In fact, the Chrysler President resigned, at the urging of the Board of Directors, due to falling so far behind in sales.
Thank you so much for sharing all of this information as well as insight
It is - not necessary to read off a slide. The people can see and read the slide fine. You can refer to the slide, and talk about other things. It is typical in say business for style purposes for it to be communicate to people talking in meetings to teach them - do not read the slides.
The slides are made after the fact some of the information in the script isn’t on the slides..
It’s worked this way so far not changing because YOU don’t like it plus some people might put this one and listen in the background, like I said I make the slides it’s more personal to present the slides
The Dodge is stodgy.
The Ford is not stodgy.
The Dodge is definitely a carry over pre-war model, and the Ford in streets ahead, though not as practical for space. Top hats were uncommon, except for the very few, who would not be driving a Ford anyway, just regular hats, that you can see in 40s and 50s movies and that carried over into the 60s and beyond for some men.
Yeah the dodge looks dated it’s interesting that ford didn’t do the fender bulge Chevy and dodge did a lot of that style
What an interesting pair to look at & compare.The Ford seems to be a club coupe (less interior space in the rear passenger compartment, more luggage space), while the Dodge is most likely a 2-door sedan (more interior, less luggage). BTW, if I am not wrong, the Dodge is a Wayfarer, which was a "smaller" Dodge car, based off of a shorter Plymouth chassis. Dodge also made a larger Coronet coupe, which didn't have this weird semi-fastback roof and, as far as I know, shared its central body section with DeSoto and Chrysler cars.
It's funny that most modern authors write that the Mopars from this era were "tall and stodgy compared to competition", yet the Ford looks taller and boxier in this comparison.
All in all, I like them both, but I've always had a soft spot for K.T. Keller's era MoPars, so as far as I am concerned - the Dodge wins; I especially like the interior - dashboard, square gauges, striped upholstery and all that. However, that said - I still think that the Dodge Coronet coupe looks better than this particular model.
The Dodge also looks less "modern" for its age & more like a prewar car, especially the interior; even the door handle functions as it would on a prewar car. So, in its day, it probably would have appealed more to the seniors and more conservative buyers in general; however, in 2022 it makes very little difference ) both are cool old cars.
You're kind of comparing apples and peaches...The Ford would be up against the Plymouth rather than the Dodge. The Ford styling was absolutely revolutionary. Chrysler and GM were still doing separate fenders, while the Ford was completely slab-sided and of a piece. GM and Chrysler was still clinging to the prewar philosophy. Actually, these Dodges were ( to me) absolutely fugly from the rear. The Ford styling is what made it be called the shoebox.
The Dodge in Plymouth shared the same body fort only had three contenders whereas GM and Chrysler had five contenders so there’s a bit of an overlap I always thought the Plymouth and Dodge competed with Ford Mercury competed with higher up dodges such as the cornet, and De Soto.. and Lincoln competed with Chrysler ( imperial wasn’t its own yet)
Just wanted to show the huge contrast in these two body designs, The fair of the two comparisons would’ve been the two door Wayfair business coupe.. but that doesn’t have a backseat the two companies didn’t really make a body design that could be compared apples to apples basis I’m not sure about the Plymouth I haven’t been in a 50 Plymouth yet but my knowledge it was the same shell.. just less appointed
The Ford is a year older, yet it looks sleaker, and more modern. Also, you called the Dodge a Chevy when describing the rear fender. I know guys who would lose their minds for that! Lol!
Brain was fried by that point that was the last car segment I did for the day, i should have edited that out must have missed it
Ford’s direct competitor in the Chrysler Corporation was PLYMOUTH, not Dodge.
(Just Sayin’) also, MOPAR = Chrysler Corporation
Didn’t have a Plymouth to compare to and ford only had 3 makes GM and Chrysler had 5 each so Plymouth and dodge overlapped in fords range (or at least that’s how I interpreted it) same holds true with Chevy and Pontiac
@@What.its.like. OKIE DOKE.
By the way, here is the 1957 CHRYSLER CORPORATION Lineup:
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@@What.its.like. Ford actually TRIED to add two more makes, by introducing EDSEL in ‘58…and spinning off
CONTINENTAL from Lincoln in ‘56…but it didn’t work.
Yeah I outlined that in the 59 edsel episode =)
Chrysler Corporation VS. General Motors: MAKE for MAKE:
PLYMOUTH=CHEVROLET
DODGE=PONTIAC
DeSOTO=OLDSMOBILE
CHRYSLER =BUICK
IMPERIAL =CADILLAC
I'll ask Jay Leno if he cut me a deal on the two he probably has!!
The best comparison for this Dodge would be a Mercury, Pontiac or Oldsmobile. The best comparison for the Ford would be a Chevrolet or Plymouth. In this comparison a club coupe was compared with a 2 door sedan so the trunk and back seat comparison was not apples to apples. Both are very nice cars with the Ford being more modern in style as compared to the Dodge for 1949.
You are comparing apples and oranges. Dodge was a higher end vehicle and a higher price point. But you did show how the Ford body was a more modern body. What you took from the Ford was simply the Dodge body was actually early 40's styling.
Take those squeaky shoes off!!!
The Dodge was stilll pre war in styling. Ford started this new design of integrating hood and fender in 49. It took 4 years post war to retool for this new look.
Not quite. The Ford is definitely more modern in appearance for that time, but the Chrysler Corp. cars had had a postwar restyling and were not literally the same as they'd been in the early 1940s.
3 BOX DESIGN WAS 1949
The 1950 dodge looks old almost pre war.
That is the business coupe, I owned 1 in vegas
Sweet =)
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