Making Transparent Wood
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I will say, I edited this part out of the video to save time but I felt like the paper was not written to be replicate-able. It severely undermines the role of toluene as an aromatic solvent and says simply "The treated wood pieces were then immersed in ethanol for 5 hours to remove any remaining chemicals and then transferred to toluene so as to exchange the ethanol in the wood." I'll leave that one up to the reader :)
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What did you think of my first voyage into the world of organic chemistry? I edited this comment out of the video since it broke the flow, but I was quite disappointed at the paper for being what I believe is unreplicatable. I am not an academic, but I don't think it was written such that someone could follow the measly Fabrication paragraph and achieve clear wood without adding a significant amount of their own chemistry knowledge. What do you think? I've linked the full paper in the description.
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Ok.. dis cool
we worked with this before. Replacing glass with chemicals and some fibers just to say it is "transparent wood" and not "Nasty Resin with wood fibers" is not only totally wrong, but we cannot find world for it.
As a fun project, yes. But anything else, no! no way.
little tip for quicker vacuuming vacuum chambers. Get some objects to help fill empty volumes in the chamber, and they should not off gas.
Your animated o-chem structure diagram with the mask wearing xylene molecule made my evening. Thanks for rep'ing authentic dork on the TH-cams Xyla. 👩🔬
I think you did better that NileRed and AvE. They both had problems and kind of got it working but they used end grain wood.
Well done 👍😃
Good job! It was fun to see your transparent wood adventure. It brought back some trauma 😢
I was just thinking when you were gonna comment.
We should unionize against transparent wood
hahaha, your struggle was epic!
Nice to see you here
I was thinking of your video while watching Xylas video. I would be interested in how the paper actually did it or if there was some funny science documentation going on there.
Rule number 1 is never trust a paper. EVER. I've honestly lost count how many I've tried to replicate that either don't work or they left out some key detail or they were waaaaaaay over generous with how easy the method is. My lab notebook usually looks insane from all the stuff crossed out and rewritten after trying protocols dozens of times until they work. What was supposed to be a simple protocol for getting DNA into yeast took like... a year? to get it working. Totally know the feeling of being unable to sleep until I solve a problem. Was dangerous having a lab in my house for a while cause it was hard to not work. Good on you for sticking with it till the end. The end result looked great! Congrats!
So basically, most researchers are trolls?
@@baikia777 There are a lot of factors, sometimes the process depends on things the original researchers didn't realize were important or not even measured, some labs don't want to give away all the details since that more readily enables people to do the same thing and possibly scoop you on future papers, journal articles tend to be concise and even in the supplemental you might not extensively document all the details, usually the primary experimental people write the methods and don't have someone try to follow them as written to make sure they work so you might have missed something or just oversimplified since you are so familiar with it. In the end its quite frustrating to try to replicate other people's papers even when you are working in a well funded and equipped lab you still can really struggle getting stuff to work.
But, isn't that the scientific process? Other people present results, and other people try to replicate, as long as the process continues the more closer to the truth we get. One paper isn't the end all be all truth, just as one test of a paper that contradict it isn't.
@@janikarkkainen3904 this almost... Never happens the way its "supposed too". Most pier review is just "does this make sense". For reasons of cost, time, equipment etc. If you do a test on a large hadron collider nobody outside your lab can replicate it. If you make clear wood it's not that scientifically important so nobody tries to replicate it.
It's always worth reaching out to the paper's author(s) wherever possible. Papers are intended to focus on the parts most relevant to the intended audience, which may not be "someone trying to replicate the methodology."
The idea that this is process could be more "environmentally friendly" than standard glass is hilarious. Silica is one of the most abundant resources on the planet, and all you require is heat to create glass. This requires a bunch of petroleum-based distillates (plastic epoxy) and chemicals that are harmful.
That being said, it's pretty cool.
Yeah, I though the same. I mean, if I have to use resin for this, why even bother with the wood? (honest question because I never worked with resin, does the wood in there provide something?)
As a science student, I will put anything on my report if it sounds even remotely feasible just to satisfy the “what does this paper bring to the area that’s new fun and fresh” criteria lmao. But also, I heard that we were running low on the specific type needed to make glass? Probably not a problem anytime soon but if we don’t up our recycling game it might be. Don’t have any references and can’t remember where I heard it from though, so it’s entirely possible I dreamed the whole thing up
Entirely this.
@@sirpoopdi3420 Not sure about glass, but we're using more sand for cement than the Earth is replacing.
@@hearmerant dang, didn’t know that, thanks for sharing
When your vacuum chamber or pressure chamber is too large, consider filling it most of the way with non-porous, incompressable material like rocks just to take up much of the volume.
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Congrats Xyla! Now make a whole canoe out of transparent wood 😈
NO!
You are no longer invited canoeing 😒
@@xylafoxlin holy shit it worked!
Whole canoe? How about a whole house?
@@xylafoxlin >>> How about _"transparent aluminum?"_ 😉
Xyla: you've finally met and recognized your evil twin sister, Xylene.
And they both ganged up and did terrible things to their cousin, Xylem.
haha
@@shoutykat and their other cousin, xylophone
@@MichaelHarto - That's what they use to communicate.
Xylene Foxlene
My son tried to do this exact experiment for his science fair project and he got stuck on the epoxy part. Seeing this video was so eye opening and we’ve realized there are no details in that paper!!!! Thank you Xyla!
Honestly, watching a process unfold with failure and re-evaluation is much more instructive than seeing a one off successful run. This sort of video teaches people who to go about things- anything, it doesn't matter. Writing a novel, for example. You work yourself into an untenable position, you back up and evaluate and try something new. You keep working until you get success or you understand why success isn't possible. Then, for the rest of your life, you KNOW that thing.
Xyla: "This is gonna be easy!"
Me, having watched Nigel give himself ulcers over the course of several videos: "Ha"
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In my defense only one had come out when I did this 😅
@@xylafoxlin You thought of using other woods to get a better result. I have not seen that before.
@@xylafoxlin did you see AvE's video on transparent wood before starting this project? IIRC he had some unique insights into his own failings at making it.
@@h3yw00d now i just want to see all the youtubers collab on a huge transparent wood project
@@h3yw00d exactly, AvE did this years ago...
Such an awesome experiment and execution! The moment you saw that it became clear was so exciting!!!
Thanks so much! And thank you as always for all the project support 💜
Botal Toat! (21:21)
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"I forgot that Petco has pets".
The best line.
0:28 - "alternative for eco-friendly windows" - uses a shipload of chemical stuff and the energy consumption of a small town to finally make a little square covered in chemical waste :D
Economy of scale would solve most of these, the problem really is epoxy, it's not really eco-friendly anymore
@@0Arcoverde solve is a very strong word.
@@JD-wf2hu it is accurate. Solve is the right word. Once the process is narrowed down any difficulty derived from not knowing what works best is gone. As well as the reduction of cost and materials.
@@orielsy reduction doesn't equal elimination. To 'solve' the issue of vast energy costs and the use of highly toxic chemicals. They would need to be entirely removed. So no, solve isn't the right word.
Evan and Katelyn had similar frustrations when they tried to do this project. I was just watching their video the other day & remember seeing their several failed attempts before they got it.
"Nothing to shake a stick at" that's INCREDIBLE! FANTASTIC!
I'm an old woodturner and just thought you might want to try this with Red Oak as it is known for being very porous (so much so you can blow air through the end grain). Also orienting this so you had a flat section of end grain would really help with removing bubbles and saturating with epoxy. Just my thoughts I have no idea if they would help and if you want to give it another shot.
Yeah 4:45 actually shows how porous it really is
Seems like using end-grain would kind of defeat the purpose. The only reason the wood is in there is to improve the tensile strength of the resin (this is really just wood-reinforced resin, not transparent wood), and a slab of end-grain isn't going to add much tensile strength.
21:40 I'm sure Botal Toat appreciates the shout-out.
Next level peer review
Footnote: "Make sure headlights are off before submerging wood samples in xylene"
No need to @ me like that 😂
@@xylafoxlin it’s important information for the next scientist who builds off of your research!
Xylene Xyleeeenn Xyleen XYLLEEEENN
@@alex0589 I'm begging of you please don't burn my man
She's so wonderfull. Curious, full of joy, smarter than most combined with her smile. FANTASTIC
If more of us could be so bright and persistant, I think humanity's problems would be so transparent. Solving them has a learning curve too.
The relentless problem solving, particularly with a modest array of tools/resources, is probably the biggest gift in this video. Not to mention the introduction to organic chemistry! Fantastic effort, remarkable result, well put together!
Died at the toluene solvent animation.
Omg I'm no animator but I was SO PROUD of that 😂😂😂
@@xylafoxlin It was pretty excellent and you should be proud
I admire your determination to solve the problems and stay with it to get the result. It's a great example for young people to see. Thank you Xyla!
After seeing the NileRed video, the intro was exactly what I was expecting. Making clear wood is like some sort of magic youtube maker trap!
Helpful tip: when you said your pressure pot was too large for pulling a good vacuum using your pump, you just need to fill the unneeded space in the pressure pot with something. Bricks, marbles, packed greensand, whatever it takes.
Good suggestion... I'd be paranoid about unexpected materials changing the experiment, but that probably shows how much I don't know about these processes.
"With something" is much too non-specific. Many materials will off-gas when exposed to vacuum, which would make drawing a vacuum even *more* difficult.
@@JosephHarner "with something" is exactly as specific as it needs to be. All makers are not privy to perfect solutions at any given time and they can use their own judgment to make their choice of what to use.
In an effort to create eco friendly windows one car, an apartment, and two garages were turned into Super Fund Hazardous waste clean up sites, I would call this experiment a resounding success
What “eco friendly alternative” would be complete without hypocrisy, proprietary methodology, and a thinly veiled cash grab that is in the long run demonstrably worse for the environment.
Glass is eco friendlier than epoxy
@@rubberduck2078 it's much tougher to cast
@@tryscience "it's much tougher to cast" But, would it be for a glass producer?
@@fewwiggle yes it would be very difficult to put all that grain in a pane of glass
I think it is great that you let everyone see all the times your experiments do not work out as planned. That is an invaluable way you learn. As an inventor it is part of my daily process. It gets easier after a while. You have to venture out far from the ordinary to create anything unique which sets one up for small setbacks on the way to successful projects. But it makes the successful outcomes all the more special. It always brings me a smile when I see a new video by you!!! Keep up the incredible videos!!
17:30 "Look! What you don't see is a transparent piece of wood."
Also, this was really interesting, and the trial and error approach made for an engaging story.
Wow! So impressed, it’s the best transparent wood attempt I’ve seen AND I understand the science more so THANK YOU! Can we talk about how cute your neighbours dog is?!
I love Darcy more than anything 😭😍
@@xylafoxlin When you first showed Darcy, I thought it was Simone's dog Scraps, until I counted the legs.
Nile red made a good video about transparent wood, he had to modify a few of the methods in the paper he followed
I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE your happiness. If anyone ever hates on you for that or calls you “inauthentic” please remember...
jealousy makes people say terrible things.
I've been following a few other people attempting the same process and yours is brilliantly detailed. Your eloquence and energy is inspiring. You've got a new subscriber.
Surprised the link from Insta worked, good to see the video finally here after watching the progression over months in stories!
Glad you didn't quit, even though I don't know the point of encasing wood in epoxy except to demonstrate you can make transparent wood. So be it, great channel. I learned some organic chemistry along the way, and that was very useful. Thank you!
It’s awesome that you show your failures along with your successes. It shows that we learn from them, furthering the process for others.
These are the types of videos that are worth watching all the way through without skipping
I'm impressed by your persistence, Xyla! Awesome video!
I love the amount of curiosity and willpower and determination that you have, that this project was keeping you up at night. I really love that energy
soooo, if I understand that correctly: you break away parts of the wood molecules and replace it with clear epoxy which then is sort of transparent... so basically, you could as well just use 100% epoxy in a mold... where is the environmental friendly innovation there?!
still a cool project :)
Good point. Only thing I can think of is that you a) save a bit of epoxy and b) maybe enhance structural stability compared to an epoxy-only approach. Other than that, you are using extremely toxic chemicals like toluene or xylene. I guess they thought it's a cool idea, but since nowadays you always need an application to get funding, most of the time people just "invent" an application. Research got way too commercialized, meaning you have better chances of funding if you present a marketable product rather than "just" a new piece of knowledge. Instead of the chemicals, I would probably try to use fungal enzymes for breaking up the lignin. May take a bit longer, but you don't need toxic chemicals for it and with the right enzyme mix you might be able to break it up far enough so you can use non-aromatic solvents for washing out the digested chromophores. But I studied molecular biotech, so of course my approach would be a bit different than hers (also genetic engineering and enzyme purification is not suuuuper feasible to do in a garage ;)).
@@floriannadler very well put. two things:
1. if only all conversations on youtube would be that nice and informative
2. I would love seeing that approach - if not already tried out - done in a similar video... well, not in the garage obviously :D
@@thetomster7625 1. Thank you :) guess chances of having a nice and informative conversation are slightly higher under a scientific video, simply attracts a more objective crowd I'd say.
2. A quick google scholar search didn't reveal anything in that direction, most research on lignin depolymerization focuses on the subsequent use of the breakdown products, since lignin is the worlds most abundant aromatic compound (I'll try to put a link to this review here, maybe you'll find it interesting: biotechnologyforbiofuels.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13068-021-01934-w).
I was going to say that!'
Xyla, you're a freaking legend. So much work into this. Really admire your tenacity. Awesome job!
Your explanation at 10:57 is iconic. He’s like a little chemistry hamburglar.
And your clear wood is AMAZING!! 🤯 One minute you’re downplaying your chemistry knowledge and the next you pull out a perfectly transparent block of wood. 🧊
Chemistry hamburgler!! 💜
@@xylafoxlin You should know that across town Bryan Cranston ran the same experiment and produced much thicker pieces of wood that were transparent. However they did have a bluish tint to them.
saw the videos from NileRed a while back which really really surprised me that you tried that. not to talk down on you but Nile did chemistry in forever and really really struggled with the clear wood. Altho it didn't turn out quiiite as good as you envisioned, I really really think you did super well! Great job Xyla keep it up!
Nigel is brilliant! My version is much less professional but hopefully shows everyone can do anything with enough bullheaded determination :)
HIS NAME IS NIGEL??????? WHAT?
@@xgh1000 his last name isn't Red, either. 🤯
@@xgh1000 Didn't you know about the plans for Nigel? Nigel just needs that helping hand.
@@xylafoxlin Nigel gave up on transparent wood quicker than you did in his first video, even though it was his field of study. His version is more professional from it being his major and being a full time TH-camr longer. Would he be as determined with a electromechanical challenge as you were with this chemistry conundrum outside your field? Or perhaps him being on the full time TH-cam treadmill for so long might also be why he's so quick to drop a challenge and move on to the next project to keep the content flowing?
Wow, that's an exceptional result! Keep up with the experiments.
Such a great 'scientific method' adventure! As an old audio/broadcast electronic nerd, I've had plenty of 'bad path' turnarounds---but eventually solved the issue. I am thankful audio doesn't usually require epoxy. Or breathing masks! Hats off to you for all that work!
Love how you just don't quit. Impressive results, too.
Fun Trivia: Xylin is short for Xyla Foxlin.
Super excited for the Corset v2 video now!
Xyla is Brilliant. She is so impressive and i loved watching her go though her scientific process problem solving issue after issue.
I've seen this before, but i love to see more people trying this.
Because transparent wood is rad
"Don't know when to quit"...obviously you do, the answer is NEVER! 😄 It's been a fun project to follow through the stories!
She did quit before making a corset out of it.
Projects are never finished, only abandoned.
As an organic/materials/green chemist I can 100% confirm that replicating literature procedures in your own lab is often a huge pain, and there's always an element of cookery and witchcraft to getting good results... that's part of what makes org chem fun, but also why so many of my colleagues have so little hair. The stories I could tell you about reactions that only work if there's a tiny bit of water in your solvent but not too much, and the original author got lucky and didn't mention any of that....
Super satisfying, these are some of the best results I've seen, and at scale too.
0:25 Yeah, the whole process seems very eco-friendly indeed...
I don't think the chemicals used in this are eco friendly. Glass seems like a much more eco friendly alternative.
considering that one of the main ones is literally banned in california and they all require serious PPE, I think I agree that they're definitely toxic.
or just the epoxy on its own 🤔
IDK, it does take a lot of heat to create glass, so a lot of combustion.
If the whole process is done in a sealed space and all the chemicals get reused, maybe it can be not that bad.
I like the fact that you're happy in your videos. A little positive energy is a good thing these days. Thanks for the great content😃
Loved the video. Your energy and passion in science and in your projects is contagious!
You know how they make Holy Water???
They just boil the hell out of it.
ba dumm tss
They cook kidneys by boiling the piss out of them.
Do you work for Portapotti or are you just taking the piss?
I like how this went from "Maybe we can make environmentally friendly windows out of wood!" to "We're using an incredibly toxic mix of banned cancer-causing chemicals!"
Love it.
I followed this process on Instagram throughout most of it, it's so COOL to see it all together now!
Congrats Xyla and thanks for the great video 😃
"Eco friendly windows in the future"
Sure. Substitute the process of melting minerals with a whole barrage of dubious chemicals. More to the point: Why not skip the whole "wood" thing and just cast epoxy panes? (Which probably still have a way larger ecological footprint than mineral glass)
SMH
It sure was fun to attempt it, though.
thank you for posting this first i was just about to to the same
in the end this is still just single use plastic with some traces of wood byproduct as a filler. glass is endlessly recyclable, chemically inert and brakes back down into sand in the end. so its better for the environment in every possible way you can mesure.
@@dexdrako "glass is endlessly recyclable (not), chemically inert (isn't) and brakes back down into sand in the end (doesn't). so its better for the environment in every possible way you can mesure." No! But it has some very good aspects, despite it's faults. btw there is no such 'thing' as glass, glassiness is a property; even plastics and metals can be 'glassy'.
@@bikerfirefarter7280 *its
Yeah the ecological part is to send money to the sponsor so that they can save the amazon 😂
Well the idea is that the end product is stronger than just the epoxy, and that bit does work. I'm not sure how the manufcacture and use of the chemicals used for this compare to making glass (I'd expect significant energy usage due to the temperatures involved).
Bit of a moot point since it doesn't work nearly well enough to go in windows or really anywhere else we care about being able to see things not pressed up against it of course.
"as the girl who likes wood and who likes making things clear that shouldn't be clear".
That's certainly a.. unique set of interests.😂
Thank Thor I wasn't the only one with perverted adolescent humour!
Amazing channel!!! You have such good energy! Binge watching everything!
Geez these videos are soooo coool!!! I know it’s frustrating but wow you’re awesome for sticking through. And great results too!!
Your "Hey everyone" gives me jump scares.
everyone should have a Steve 💕
Right? 🥺
Love the energy and how you pushed through the problem solving process. I also found myself singing ‘Come On Xylene’ while watching!
You're so awesome, Xyla. I love seeing you succeed.
The problem with modern academia is that they are so focused on possible patents that they obfuscate the process deliberately. It hurts the entire academic community as well as independent researchers
Sorry, but that's simply not true. Patenting something doesn't stop you from describing it perfectly. On the contrary, once it's patented you are free to disclose it, since it's already protected. And if you publish before patenting, you even get a grace period of one year after publication in which you can still file for a patent (in the US).
If I ever need to defend my country against the world's most powerful army, I'm recruiting Xyla.
Thank you for not giving up on this one that was great work!
Your videos are such a great learning experience from an engineering perspective but also from your own personal perspective as you go thru the ups and downs.
Just realizing that Xyla Foxlin shortened is literally Xylin, Xylene
Dammit you beat me to it.
0:32 "... could be a viable alternative for ECO-freindly windows in the future..." I think with those chemicals, maybe not. But it was fun.
Plus, ya know, it's reliant heavily on the epoxy... Which instead of heavily processed wood filled with plastic, you could just use plastic (plexiglass).
Or just melt sand....
(not a criticism of Xyla or NileRed. A criticism of the researchers/writers of the paper)
I can't help smiling whenever i watch Xyla !
I've seen at least one other video showing transparent wood using the same paper here on TH-cam.
Your video, however, is so much more in depth. Explaining a lot more of the science behind the process and what each step in the process does.
I also enjoyed your energy which made watching the science parts both interesting and fun.
Well done and thank you.
You've just gained a subscriber.
Some academic research is impossible to replicate, which is a problem with the whole system...
AvE could add one thing to this video: "I know when to give up because the paper is so wimbley wombley".
Today we're working with ridgid carbon foam, they kill trees for that stuff, the sick bastards.
Xyla , I love how you don't give up on a project. Keep it up as your brilliant.
Good job!👍 Xyla
Cool "just because I can" project but considering the properties of the materials being used it has no advantage over glass or acrylic window material.
There's a reason laboratories have hoods.
i LOVE your attitude. Inspirational.
Thank you for not quitting in this (and other) adventures of the sciences and maths. Good job in your accomplishment in that way as well as your video production for us... 👍
"eco friendly". Glass itself is "eco friendly", but there's more to it that just being transparent. Is it scratch resistant? Shatter proof? Will it hold up to rock? Branch? A bullet? This is neat, but no one would install it on their house.
@Steve Gracy Not really all the chemicals and epoxy made it way more environment unfriendly then glass. Yes glass needs a lot of energy but at least you can recycle it quit easy if it breaks and if it does not break it last for ever, there are church windows hundreds of years old
C'mon, clear wood is easy. Get some wood, soak it in stuff for like some hours, call it names, dip it in resin or whatever, and wham. The wham is the important part.
That was quite the journey! Thanks for making it.
This is so awesome! Great job! I saw that journal awhile back and really hoped it could work, and your recreation is another step forward on the path oF SCIENCE
Hmm I have to question the "eco friendly windows" thing. The chemicals used in this process are far from eco friendly. You could do away with the wood and just have clear plastic like Perspex. Glass may take a lot of energy to produce but it is very long lasting you can see it in medieval churches. Glass is also recyclable and does not give off highly toxic fumes when burnt. This is an interesting process and I appreciated the huge effort you put into this video. I don't see this process being used for anything other than making over priced furniture for hipsters without a care for the planet.
I agree. There is nothing “eco friendly” about this process. BTEX (Benzene/Toluene/Ethylbenzene/Xylene) family of VOCs can make people really sick and they are notorious for contaminating soil and groundwater. There is a reason why they’re banned.
@@happy_dad4211 Perhaps once a repeatable, cheap way to make it is found, next step is to find out how to get it done with more eco friendly chemicals?
You have so much energy & enthusiasm I wish I lived next door and could pop my head in to look at your latest projects regularly.
You got me hooked after 5 minutes. I'm a fan now.
Thank you for this project, this video and your enthusiasm!
This is probably the best video I've seen xD I mean I'm a very technical guy but still a video this long on such a topic filled with reputations would be seriously boring but I love how u kept me engaged and loving every bit of the content and I know everyone says it but so full of energy too! Wish you all the best for the future~
I’m glad you were so transparent about your failures and frustrations. 😁
I think it'd be super fun and interesting to see a video of just you and NileRed basically talking about ideas for projects and brainstorming new ideas!
Thank you for showing the trails, errors and gumption of curiosity!!!! Love
It.
Your determination gave me motivation ❤️
Ok I just found this channel and I'm hooked! Love the mix of science, engineering and art ^__^ Giving me creative ideas of my own :D
I really admire your persistence
Awesome video and keep them coming!! Also never apologize for being happy.
The pain. The enthusiasm. It's so natural. I feel this. This was fun 🤣
I want my own little transparent wood piece.