NileRed i love the taste but i can’t drink it anymore due to my anxiety attacks which i’ve got since three years 😞 a non caffeine version would be a dream
@@beastmaster6943it’s absolutely normal to try it not this though but you can drink one daily remember not to pass 400mg of caffeine and if you are less than 18 years old you should only take a max of 100mg. The reason why everyone says it’s harmful it’s because they take more than 400mg which of course is harmful.
I think that's actually a terrible name for a consumer product lol. Imagine drinking apple juice that was called "Crazy science experiment apple juice". Sounds worrying lol
I think they knew it was Nigel from NileRed. Who else would write them COMPLIMENTING the chemical taste of their nasty beverage? Also, they called him talented. They were looking for a shout-out on NileRed.
I've seen some guides about making homemade redbull and it's essentially a fermented ginseng tea. If you're looking to make this in volumes more apt for daily consumption, try searching for homemade redbull recipes and you'll see plenty online. Great video as always. Cheers!
Your solution: 1: Take tour of RedBull facility 2: Inquire about at what point the caffeine is added 3: Break in later that night and make your own batch, skipping the caffeine step 4: Profit P.S. I have a van and ski masks
@@kittiecandy747 same with me. I just think unless chemistry is demonstrated in a cool experiment it's just not as exciting to think about. Chemistry is a big part of biology tho so you have to have a basic understanding of one to fully wrap your head around the other I'd say
The different taste might just have been just from the carbonation at home method. It always tastes different from store bought carbonated drinks. There’s just something off about things you make with the soda stream
Problem: Redbull has caffeine, and want a caffeine free version. Chef: I know, I'll just figure out the recipe by doing some research and trial and error, and hopefully make a copycat version that's as good as the original. Chemist: CAFFEINE EXTRACTION
My god chemistry is insane. Not just Nigel's life choices, but the fact that this is even POSSIBLE. There are so many chemicals and they do so many different things. The whole enterprise seems like a set of amazing and sometimes very frustrating puzzles.
Totally agree, it’s interesting to see how linked everything is. Chemistry interested me a fair bit in school but I don’t think I was intelligent enough for it, not to mention my totally unenthusiastic teacher
God made everything linked like that. It is His amazing creation. You should see the amazing love and saving power Jesus has for you. I hope you continue to enjoy God’s creation and get to especially know the love of the creator. God bless, friends!
They really did not anwered "no" to the caffeine free thing, they answered that if they ever do it, they'll deny all relationship with your suggestion.
@Fernando Aispuro They don't send them automatically, it's just a dude copying and pasting a reply from a google docs filled with prewritten replies. I don't work for Red Bull, but I am one of those dudes. I do some personalized replies but only if it's really necessary (and promptly add them to my repertoire).
@@itzzaland7844 No think about it. If I suggested and claimed that I was the one to come up with this idea and If I were expecting compensation (royalty) for that idea, I won't settle for a small amount like a few thousand bucks. And to avoid that hassle, its better to entertain ideas from people who already signed non-disclosures and all the leagal mumbo-jumbo aka someone who works for them.
@@ve-uh7tq Have you consumed battery juice? Even so taste is subjective. I also like redbull. The chemical taste is delicious to me. I despise beer and millions of people like that. People are just different.
sweet tart flavor I dont know why people think its mediciney. Soda Stream Energy is a pretty close substitute... with less caffiene and you measure syrup yourself.
This may sound like an insult, but it's an absolute compliment: this video makes me fall asleep. I don't know what it is about the subject matter, the experiments, the delivery... But it knocks me out within five minutes. Does he ever make caffeine free red bull? I'll never know. But thanks for the sleep aid!
"most of the time when you extract something, you're willing to completely destroy the thing that you're taking it from." Simple, just take the red bull from the caffeine instead of the caffeine from the red bull.
Redbull itself has multiple ingredients compared to just caffeine, which some of the ingredients arent even told such as the coloring and the taste. Imagine if you remove each ingredient one by one and mix them up later 😂😂😂
Some ideas (from an organic/peptide synthesis PhD student): 1. Why not just repeat your extraction process multiple times on the same sample of red bull to see if you can continue to remove caffeine? In theory it should continue to remove a certain extent of the caffeine. 2. You could try a different organic solvent for the extraction instead of DCM. Ethyl acetate is a common choice, although it might be difficult to fully remove afterwards. You would need to rotavap it and maybe azeotrope with CHCl3, which is not ideal because chloroform is highly toxic. Diethyl ether may be another viable option for the extraction since it is relatively non-toxic and highly volatile, so it should be easily removed afterwards. 3. You could try to isolate the caffeine using flash chromatography (probably with a silica stationary phase). I don’t know if this would work though, because you would need to find (from lit. or experimentally) a TLC system that will give the caffeine an Rf ~0.3 with reasonable separation from the other compounds present (if they are not UV active, visualise them with a dye - see NotVoodoo for more info). If this prerequisite is met, then run the column, collect the fractions containing caffeine and set them aside. Collect any other fractions that are separated for future recombination. You would need to flush the column afterwards to retrieve everything remaining on the column (this is sometimes done with 10% MeOH in DCM, but methanol is toxic so it may not be viable). Recombine everything not containing caffeine, remove solvent etc., dilute with water, carbonate. Maybe this is feasible, but it is complicated by needing to be fit for subsequent consumption and preserving the original components in their original ratios.
Heh. Though in all seriousness, it's relating to water content rather than physically being liquid or solid. You can extract the H20 molecules themselves from a solution with the liquid he added, leaving it 'dry' in that it's just the *other* chemicals and no water left.
It works for the same reason IV saline needs to be 0.9% NaCl. If the salt concentration is higher on one side of the "barrier" than the other, water will diffuse across the barrier from the lower concentration side to the higher concentration side in an attempt to balance the concentrations. In an IV, your cells would burst if there wasn't salt added (water would diffuse into the cells to try decrease intracellular solute concentration), and in this case, water diffuses from the DCM into the brine solution.
Nile, I literally thought I was the only person loving that taste but being sensitive to caffeine. Though now - i think- discontinued, one of the big supermarket chains in my country actually had a store brand " energy taste lemonade" and it was fabulous. If I manage to find some, I'll send it your way!
@@TamEstrella I don't know where you are from, I live in Austria, in Central Europe. The Store name is Spar, I just checked again but it seems like they have discontinued it :(
i'm definitely a bit similar. i'm not sensitive to the energy effects of caffeine at all, but my guts are very caffeine sensitive if you know what i mean lol. but i love that chemical and guarana taste of energy drinks.
NileRed is like the personification of all the answers to the question "what's perfectly legal to do but makes you look like a psychopath if you do it?"
I haven't used a Sodastream for a loooong time, but I always thought you were supposed to carbonate the water on its own, remove the bottle, and *then* add the flavouring - it avoids contaminating/clogging the nozzle, and it stops that foam forming on the top.
Ive been drinking a can of sugar-free per day for the past few months. I think I might be addicted, but I just love the taste of it and its my little snack during the quarantine that keeps me up. I just love the flavour.
It makes sense though. If Red Bull had said; "That's a great idea, we'll work on that." and it turns out to be commercially viable/popular. They're opening themselves up to be sued for millions of dollars when, in this case NileRed, contacts them that it was their initial idea that is now making them profit so pay up please.
I love bits like 20:50: "I honestly kind of panicked here, and I thought that I had ruined everything - but then I realized I could just use the desiccator again." It makes me feel so much better when I hear a seasoned pro experience that sentiment we've all felt while doing extractions, hahaha.
It actually made the whole video sound like he panik and kalm meme, like for example he messed up the first time=panik, the trend again and knew it wasnt a complete failure=kalm, then when he put too much water in=panik
From what I saw it was impossible to take a non-employee's recommendation. Which makes it even more of a problem since this is a nice market that they're just ignoring.
@@KatotsuSama yeah, but they don't want to open themselves up to possible legal matters such as being accused of taking advantage of people and not compensating them properly for their work
Next time you do something like this give a look online for pictures of the European ingredients label for the same product: The stricter rules about ingredient labels in the EU might help to shed some light on the mysterious flavours and color additives they used. For example, the "colours" turn out to be riboflavin and simple caramel.
Been watching your videos over a few months now and I mean this in a good way but this is the first one I’ve actually watched all the way through, I somehow always fall asleep for the end result and watch the same videos over because I keep falling asleep😂
I love watching this at 2am, when I've procrastinated for two weeks when I should've been writing a big ass paper. Now I've chugged 3 rockstars and my heart feel funnï
0:53 They didn't reject your idea They simply said they couldn't take your idea due to legal reasons (ie you could claim to be a creator of the drink and sue them) They could have very well have been making a caffeine free version
Monster used to have a caffeine free energy drink called Monster: Unleaded that came in a gray can, but it was discontinued because nobody bought it. It had all the other energy blend stuff, but the stimulants were removed.
As someone who loves the taste of Monster, but doesn't care a single bit for the caffeine stimulant, I was very excited to find out about this - then immediately disappointed because it was discontinued 6 months before I discovered it.
Nile when dealing with Redbull: "It is of upmost importance that I do not make a single mistake in this delicate procedure. The taste of my drink is on the line." Nile when dealing with the toxic, corrosive, deadly carcinogen Chromyl Chloride: "Oopsie I spilled some."
Fun fact: Red Bull made products that are/were not energy drinks but sodas called “Organics: By Red Bull”, the flavors are/were Simply Cola, Bitter lemon, ginger beer, tonic water, and purple berry. If Red Bull makes an Organics product that tasted like the original Red Bull, it could probably be a big success, since a lot of people drink Red Bull for the taste, but realize If they drink too much, they could have heart problems and/or die. So if a product like this was made, not only would people not have to worry about dying anymore, children could also drink it to without any worries to! Could also out perform the simply cola flavor and be the best selling of the bunch. We could probably make a petition for this.
To be fair, he doesn't seem to be too literate in chemistry himself. It's clearly not an acidic molecule and his confusion about the pKa value is mainly due to a lack of basic chemical knowledge. Which is ok - he never says he's a chemist, but he should maybe think about adding a disclaimer ^^
It's like breakfast at Martha Stewart's house: First, you have to wait for the hand raised free range chickens to lay a few eggs, then get the sausage and bacon made from a nice tender little piglet grown in the back yard, and toast made from organic wheat, grown on the back 40...
@@henrybyers5557 Isn't taurine a component of urine,maybe that's all the stuff is just sterilized urine with a sweetener and artificial flavoring,like the juice of the Mink anal gland,it smells and tastes like Vanilla.
@@TailGreat It's a joke about the same mentality people have when watching cooking shows, even though they themselves are not chefs. They watch a show where like, a chef has to make a three-course meal in fifteen minutes or some shit and they make a minor mistake, you go "heh, yeah you needed to cook the scallops more Brian". Especially good when you criticize someone's Beef Wellington while brushing off Dorito crumbs.
I'm wondering if you could somehow distill off the volatiles earlier in the process, probably before even the desiccator, and then reintroduce them after the caffeine extraction
About the smell: I suspect you may have "distilled" it off while removing the DCM. The fact that it smells at normal pressure means that some of it is definitely volatile, under a vacuum I'd say that more of it goes into the gas phase which is then removed along with the DCM, especially if you pull a vacuum on it for that long.
I think you're mistaken. Most of the smell ended up in the DCM that he drained out of the separatory funnel, and that DCM was never under vacuum. He separately cleaned it up and dried it on a hot plate in the vial, remember? That's where much the odorous chemical ended up, so clearly it was the DCM that pulled it out of the Redbull. Was there maybe SOME left in the Redbull that got vacuumed off? That's pure speculation. The fact is, much of the odor was extracted before he even applied a vacuum.
Wouldn't the desiccator also remove volatile stuff? He said the flavor was the same after that step, but didn't mention the smell. Of course as No Fullname mentioned, some of it did make it into the DCM. I wonder how much came out of it in each step.
When you are reducing the water from red bull, you are actually increasing the acidic of the solution at the same time, that cause you to extract less caffeine. Also, high conc solution has similar density to DCM, that make them hard to separate. The TLC part really makes me fell painful as a formal Chemistry student.
Why are all the comments with likes are dumb jokes or making fun of the fact he never noticed he vacuumed the smell out, while comments like your hardly see the light of day.
@@sidneyjohnson6882 This is definitely a huge problem! Like on memes' or comedy's videos, it's fine to up vote funny jokes. But on informative videos, now it's just a race of who will get the most likes from copied and over used jokes.
Not necessarily. You get rid of the carbonic acid and I, of course, do not know the exact compounds but aren't there substances lowering the pH only if in a certain medium, like water?
You said that it would take days for the emulsion to separate. I guess you could try mixing it up properly and then just waiting till it does separate. Pretty sure that the DCM just didn't have enough contact to extract more than 25 percent
As for the smell, when you used the thing to evaporate water from it, I think you also lost some of those ingredients/aroms/oils that like to evaporate.
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I am learning from the comments that there are a lot of people who absolutely hate the taste of RedBull.
I don’t have blood, I have redbull
I hate the taurine aftertaste :(
I had heard that caffeine is highly soluble in supercritical CO2.
Though this sounds extremely diffucult to do imo.
NileRed i love the taste but i can’t drink it anymore due to my anxiety attacks which i’ve got since three years 😞 a non caffeine version would be a dream
Redbull tastes like ass, to me. And energy drinks have never kept me up at night for some reason
i used DCM to extract the DCM out of the DCM and then used some DCM to make sure there is no more DCM in the DCM.
Yes
Nikita Mayatnikov drinking game: take a shot every time he says DCM
This hurt my brain when I read this
yes
i use the DCM to destroy the DCM
He is speaking the language of gods
I first thought the title meant that you take out the caffeine, so you can drink the pure caffeine at night
Hahah
Honestly that sounds like what I would do at night. The Z monster creeps on to you slowly but hits hard.
Same😂
Your pituitary gland reading this: am I a joke to you?
Snorting caffeine at 3 am so he can stay up for the next 6 days
RedBull should do a caffeine free collab with NileRed. It could be called “NileRedBull”.
I would actually buy that
I like to drink energy drinks almost every day (don't try this at home)
@@beastmaster6943it’s absolutely normal to try it not this though but you can drink one daily remember not to pass 400mg of caffeine and if you are less than 18 years old you should only take a max of 100mg. The reason why everyone says it’s harmful it’s because they take more than 400mg which of course is harmful.
NileBull*
No, nileredbull is classic@@ParallelicBeast
I think that's actually a terrible name for a consumer product lol.
Imagine drinking apple juice that was called "Crazy science experiment apple juice". Sounds worrying lol
The most chemist thing I’ve ever heard is “ I drink energy drinks for the chemically flavor”
Im not a chemist but I drink them for the same reason lol, I love the "synthetic" taste
when did he say this?
@@Ares_gaming_117 I like that good chemically after taste with that added zest of the citric acid.
@@blackisanxious7178 literally at the start of the video
someone rewatch the beginning lmao
I was really surprised that RedBull wrote back to him until I noticed that he had emailed RedBull Canada
And they only said sorry once.. Seems suspicious.
nintendo says the same thing however apple does take submissions and says all ideas then become the property of apple
What a nice fella eh
too many waifus destroys your laifu NileRedBull!
I think they knew it was Nigel from NileRed. Who else would write them COMPLIMENTING the chemical taste of their nasty beverage?
Also, they called him talented. They were looking for a shout-out on NileRed.
The fact that RB has artificial colouring added to it means that they _intended_ for it to look exactly like piss.
Any idea why they would do that
Maybe it was brown
Swiss miss
Instant piss
@@suursuits7637 god I miss Sam
They were probably going for the champagne/beer look since it targeted nightclubs initially.
I've seen some guides about making homemade redbull and it's essentially a fermented ginseng tea. If you're looking to make this in volumes more apt for daily consumption, try searching for homemade redbull recipes and you'll see plenty online. Great video as always. Cheers!
Energy drink without the energy is just “drink”. My guy made drink
Yum drink
😂😂😂
dronk
I want some *drink*
Fk red bull... I need wings
Your solution:
1: Take tour of RedBull facility
2: Inquire about at what point the caffeine is added
3: Break in later that night and make your own batch, skipping the caffeine step
4: Profit
P.S. I have a van and ski masks
Lmaooo
hahaha! :D
I'm in lol
It will not work every batch have to take a micro test and if it does not square out to the costumer intrusions the batch will be thrown away.
@@edddyq.2726 lol
I know little enough about chemistry that I can just re-watch the videos after a while and it feels like the first time
Man, I love biology and hate chemistry, but I love this dudes videos
@@kittiecandy747 same with me.
I just think unless chemistry is demonstrated in a cool experiment it's just not as exciting to think about.
Chemistry is a big part of biology tho so you have to have a basic understanding of one to fully wrap your head around the other I'd say
@@ZTheLastViking Same. I think chemistry is cool as long as I get to see and do experiments otherwise It's pretty boring imo
Uranium + co2 carbonic oxide is the main source of the chemical energy so you could make uranium water cool hu o forgot H2O is also important
Same tbh. I can just watch them over and over again, and its always something new to learn haha
The different taste might just have been just from the carbonation at home method. It always tastes different from store bought carbonated drinks. There’s just something off about things you make with the soda stream
Its missing some of that zesty lead
Problem: Redbull has caffeine, and want a caffeine free version.
Chef: I know, I'll just figure out the recipe by doing some research and trial and error, and hopefully make a copycat version that's as good as the original.
Chemist: CAFFEINE EXTRACTION
Thats what i was thinking lol
Gourmet Makes: Red Bull
I just drink it anyway.
you get used to sleeping on caffeine eventually...
TommyTom21 or let people like what they like?
TommyTom21 Redbull taste good
You know he's a real professional based on all the things he knows "just by looking at it".
You know he's a professional by how much he likes redbull xD
you can tell because of the way it is
When you look at a molecule and actually understand it
He finally looked at it
Units of Measurement: A bunch, some of it, all of it, mL
“I like the chemical like taste” is the most NileRed thing ever.
mmmmyuma chemicahzl
I like the taste of pepsi max but not the fizz, so I completely understand where he's coming from here. Thankfully my problem is much easier to solve.
@Dangerous Hillbilly lmao he didn’t even reply
Ehehehehehe
@Dangerous Hillbilly you go gurl lol
My god chemistry is insane. Not just Nigel's life choices, but the fact that this is even POSSIBLE. There are so many chemicals and they do so many different things. The whole enterprise seems like a set of amazing and sometimes very frustrating puzzles.
Totally agree, it’s interesting to see how linked everything is. Chemistry interested me a fair bit in school but I don’t think I was intelligent enough for it, not to mention my totally unenthusiastic teacher
God made everything linked like that. It is His amazing creation. You should see the amazing love and saving power Jesus has for you. I hope you continue to enjoy God’s creation and get to especially know the love of the creator. God bless, friends!
@chanceweslowski7792 Hail Satan.
“Drinking it like this would be very dangerous; but more importantly it would taste terrible.”
Priorities am I right lol
i mean if i drink something that can kill me it might as well taste good
@@TheSpoon369 lmao true
500. Like Ur welcome and congratulations! 🙂
He didnt say more importantly though
I mean, he's only doing this because he likes the taste of redbull
Next episode: Taking the alcohol out of vodka so I can drink it before driving
Episode 3: Odorless perfume.
Episode 4: Flavorless sugar
@@NitinMurthy Episode 4.5: Sugarless flavor.
It’s called bottled water.
Just boil it.
"Lemme get a energy drink, hold the energy"
Lol
Not true. It still has taurine and glucuronolactone in it.
@@WobblesandBean 😐 bruh it's a j... You know what 🤔, Thank you for your imput very informative 🤣👏
I'll have some fries but hold the potatoes
@@WobblesandBean *inhale* WHOOOOOOOOSH
Yo that was really awesome that they got back to you so quick! And they do that for concerns about copyrights, patents, etc
Future Niles: “I’ve always loved the smell of cocaine, but don’t like watching 3 sunrises in a row...”
Future Future Niles: "I've always loved the smell of LSD, but I don't like watching 3 sunrises at the same time..."
Stormlord more like i dont like seeing 3 unicorns every hour
@@sativa1320 profile picture checks out
@@Warhamer116 if your lsd has a smell dude that ain't lsd lmao
let alone a taste
“So why’d you become a chemist?”
“I like how chemicals taste”
Lool
*breaking bad theme*
every taste that everybody likes (except music or movies or...) is a taste of chemicals. So.....
What does mercury taste like
How does this only have four replies besides mine? (It's at 1.1K)
They really did not anwered "no" to the caffeine free thing, they answered that if they ever do it, they'll deny all relationship with your suggestion.
How freaking greedy they are 😒
Itzz Aland It’s because of legal reasons
Well I highly doubt he was the first person to ask about a caffeine-free red bull
@Fernando Aispuro They don't send them automatically, it's just a dude copying and pasting a reply from a google docs filled with prewritten replies. I don't work for Red Bull, but I am one of those dudes. I do some personalized replies but only if it's really necessary (and promptly add them to my repertoire).
@@itzzaland7844 No think about it. If I suggested and claimed that I was the one to come up with this idea and If I were expecting compensation (royalty) for that idea, I won't settle for a small amount like a few thousand bucks. And to avoid that hassle, its better to entertain ideas from people who already signed non-disclosures and all the leagal mumbo-jumbo aka someone who works for them.
Bro your smile after the satisfaction of completion of a project, it's awesome
Taking energy out of the energy drink. Pure chemist spirit.
Your pfp is disgusting
@@hasnicktir5310 facts
@Repent to Jesus Christ Repent to Jesus Christ no
@@hasnicktir5310 what
@@torstenbauer4703 tf
"No, no I drink it for the taste, I promise!" taken to the extreme.
This was great, thanks for the video. Excellent as always.
"Scientist decaffeinates energy drink because he just likes the chemical taste"
Secretly I also like Redbull for the taste. The caffeine does nothing to me though
ok but secretly most of us would do this if we could
@@lungelolekokotla2409 wtf is wrong with you, it tastes like battery juice
@@ve-uh7tq Have you consumed battery juice? Even so taste is subjective. I also like redbull. The chemical taste is delicious to me. I despise beer and millions of people like that. People are just different.
I mean didn't you know NileReds taste of alcohol? He shared that in a video of TheThoughtEmporium
Yes, you are not the only one who came here looking for a Red Bull acount comment.
Im just glad this dude is doing fun experiments and not working on a secret chemical bioweapon
You never know... It might be a cover up lmao
finger
I mean... How would you know
He is working on a world ending chemical bioweapon
finger
voice over Nigel: calm, calculated, professional
Nigel as soon as hes on camera: giggly, chucks things, irresponsible
Ikr
Nigel lmfao
he’s so adorable
memento mori
It was his brother
"No syrup left behind."
Spoken like a true Canadian.
I read this just as he said it lol
i am the *69*10th* LIKE
@Lakshya Pandya- so... 690th?
I’m the 818th; I’m not special.
sweet tart flavor
I dont know why people think its mediciney.
Soda Stream Energy is a pretty close substitute... with less caffiene and you measure syrup yourself.
Hearing teachers tell me not to drink from beakers my whole life and then seeing NileRed chug down his homemade piss water is genuinely so hilarious
lmao
i dont think its a beaker i had the exact same cup given to me as a gift lol
This comment is going on my wall lmao
@@Abc-tx4zrlucky
It's not a real beaker. It's a cup made to look like a beaker. You can buy them from his store. I got a dozen of them myself.
I still had to test if this was actually caffeine, so the first thing I did was make it into a powder and snort it
This man is so chaotic neutral I totally wouldn’t be surprised
Why can I imagine him saying that
Hahahahaha
Holy shit I'm dying
"...and yeah, it definitely was."
I can hear his voice in my head saying it 😂
“Not only is it dangerous, it would also taste terrible.”
Ah yes, a man with priorities.
Indeed. Hazard elimination, then aesthetic.
This may sound like an insult, but it's an absolute compliment: this video makes me fall asleep. I don't know what it is about the subject matter, the experiments, the delivery... But it knocks me out within five minutes. Does he ever make caffeine free red bull? I'll never know. But thanks for the sleep aid!
It’s like I’m back in high school, unable to stay awake in chemistry class
when you can eyeball 20 mils in a casserole dish you been doing chemistry for a hot minute
Or drugs
True 😂
Froilan Abagat sometimes you need to know a little bit of chemistry to make drugs.
@@ethanc94 to make proper drugs(medicine) you need to know a lot of chemistry.
I love this comment
"most of the time when you extract something, you're willing to completely destroy the thing that you're taking it from." Simple, just take the red bull from the caffeine instead of the caffeine from the red bull.
THONKS
r/ihaveastroke
Redbull itself has multiple ingredients compared to just caffeine, which some of the ingredients arent even told such as the coloring and the taste. Imagine if you remove each ingredient one by one and mix them up later 😂😂😂
@@DubstepMusique yeah i was joking, i know redbull has multiple parts
@@icywarhammer5003 did you even read the second part of their reply
25% caffeine reduced
_"Red Bull gives you a wing and a half"_
ahh yes
"*Red Nile* gives you a wing and a half"
50% caffeine reduced
Red Bull gives you one wing
Nobody went for the obvious "NileRed Bull"???
@@redstonegod296 one winged bull
I love watching a dude put redbull into a food dehydrator as a living
Some ideas (from an organic/peptide synthesis PhD student):
1. Why not just repeat your extraction process multiple times on the same sample of red bull to see if you can continue to remove caffeine? In theory it should continue to remove a certain extent of the caffeine.
2. You could try a different organic solvent for the extraction instead of DCM. Ethyl acetate is a common choice, although it might be difficult to fully remove afterwards. You would need to rotavap it and maybe azeotrope with CHCl3, which is not ideal because chloroform is highly toxic. Diethyl ether may be another viable option for the extraction since it is relatively non-toxic and highly volatile, so it should be easily removed afterwards.
3. You could try to isolate the caffeine using flash chromatography (probably with a silica stationary phase). I don’t know if this would work though, because you would need to find (from lit. or experimentally) a TLC system that will give the caffeine an Rf ~0.3 with reasonable separation from the other compounds present (if they are not UV active, visualise them with a dye - see NotVoodoo for more info). If this prerequisite is met, then run the column, collect the fractions containing caffeine and set them aside. Collect any other fractions that are separated for future recombination. You would need to flush the column afterwards to retrieve everything remaining on the column (this is sometimes done with 10% MeOH in DCM, but methanol is toxic so it may not be viable). Recombine everything not containing caffeine, remove solvent etc., dilute with water, carbonate. Maybe this is feasible, but it is complicated by needing to be fit for subsequent consumption and preserving the original components in their original ratios.
*S C I E N C E*
upvote this guy so nilered can see
nerd
@@uhitsethan Better strategy: Shoot a msg to Nile on his social media pages.
Job done, and no knee-pads required.
Can you please translate what you just wrote😌
"the liquid in this beaker still looks a bit wet, so im going to add another liquid that will dry it out"
*confused noises*
Heh. Though in all seriousness, it's relating to water content rather than physically being liquid or solid. You can extract the H20 molecules themselves from a solution with the liquid he added, leaving it 'dry' in that it's just the *other* chemicals and no water left.
i know i was like *wait a hot second*
It works for the same reason IV saline needs to be 0.9% NaCl. If the salt concentration is higher on one side of the "barrier" than the other, water will diffuse across the barrier from the lower concentration side to the higher concentration side in an attempt to balance the concentrations. In an IV, your cells would burst if there wasn't salt added (water would diffuse into the cells to try decrease intracellular solute concentration), and in this case, water diffuses from the DCM into the brine solution.
@@BJA717 I got chubbyemu flashbacks from your comment
@@ArloMathis so other liquids can get wet, but not water?
"The project was technically a success." I'm gonna use that every time I reach 24% of my goal
"Your homework only has your name on it..."
'Technically a success I'd say'
nephyril better than the post lmao
if i reach 24% of my goal I just say "Kobe!"
Marry me, Juliet.
You'll never have to be alone.
I love you and that's all I really know.
In chemistry that’s an amazing percent yield haha but same bro
Nile, I literally thought I was the only person loving that taste but being sensitive to caffeine. Though now - i think- discontinued, one of the big supermarket chains in my country actually had a store brand " energy taste lemonade" and it was fabulous. If I manage to find some, I'll send it your way!
Woah what store brand? 😍
@@TamEstrella I don't know where you are from, I live in Austria, in Central Europe. The Store name is Spar, I just checked again but it seems like they have discontinued it :(
@@leander_d Thank you so much for the info anyway :) I really appreciate it!! someday I'll find something similar to this "energy taste limonade"
i'm definitely a bit similar. i'm not sensitive to the energy effects of caffeine at all, but my guts are very caffeine sensitive if you know what i mean lol. but i love that chemical and guarana taste of energy drinks.
This is literally a "Fine, I'll do it myself" meme of itself
If I was a dealer I would sell this for 30€ for half a gram
with blackjack and hookers
@@echo3996 futurama??
@@grimmpotat6911 yes it is.
Bruh, I literally just thought of that and was looking to see if anyone else had said this.
NileRed: Uses gloves to pour RedBull into pan.
NileBlue: Throws unseathed knife into air and catches with bare hands.
As someone who messes with knives
Throwing blades unseathed is so fun yet dangerous, which makes it more fun
NileRed: _touches mercury with bare hands_
@@t0xic- the liquid form is safe I believe the metal form is poisonous
@@pyhlo9201 true
Yeah, i dont understand his logic
NileRed is like the personification of all the answers to the question "what's perfectly legal to do but makes you look like a psychopath if you do it?"
6:08
Sounds like an askreddit question
Making hotsauce from plastic gloves.
It just feels scary for a person to want redbull without caffeine.....that's not right bro
@@aberonharmon3710 💀💀
It’s so funky how chemistry is this serious equation and then some things are “shake but not too hard
“I don’t drink red bull for the caffeine, just the flavor” is reasonable but when I say the same thing about alcohol it’s a problem
The former sounds like a bigger problem than the latter tbh
“I only drink alcohol for the flavor, not the alcohol”
"I don’t drink red bull for the caffeine, just the alcohol"
Wait ppl don’t enjoy the flavor of alcohol?
@@neilkurowski4991 you only begin to like flavour of alcohol after it affected you before
y'know what NileRed is exactly the kind of guy who would like the "chemical taste" of redbull
I was looking for this comment
Is this a guy though? I'm really curious it looks like he has a really big chest🤔
@@ExtremefishingnzNile IS a guy.
@@Extremefishingnz its what happens when you workout, probably something you wouldnt understand unfortunately
or if you are fat 👍@@goyang.
Change the color so it doesn't look like piss.
I literally thought it was piss at first
You just need food coloring
just add a bit of blue food coloring to make it look green
JARATE!
@@zurbruggg I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT!
I haven't used a Sodastream for a loooong time, but I always thought you were supposed to carbonate the water on its own, remove the bottle, and *then* add the flavouring - it avoids contaminating/clogging the nozzle, and it stops that foam forming on the top.
"I don't drink it for the caffeine, I just like the slightly chemically flavor".. i thought i was the only one who liked energy drinks for that lol
Until now, I was afraid I was the only person who does NOT appreciate that 'liquid sweettarts' flavor!
Why do you think your the only one in a world with 8 billion people in it
Ive been drinking a can of sugar-free per day for the past few months. I think I might be addicted, but I just love the taste of it and its my little snack during the quarantine that keeps me up. I just love the flavour.
i would have agreed but i don't agree with retards who associate themselves with the furry fandom
@@AnonymousGentooman Im gonna try that out
"I randomly felt that 10 hours was probably good". I'll tell my Ochem professor that next time I'm in lab.
Time stamp?
Why do you think so many organic chemistry papers have 10+ hours as reaction time?
AteOAte Time stamp?
AteOAte 5:30
@@ateoate3270 about 10 minutes is probably good
Take the alcohol out of whiskey so you can drink in the morning
Edit: Or drink and drive 🤑
It would probably taste very different. Whiskey is almost 50% alcohol
I dont think Nile is an alchoholic
You already can drink whiskey in the morning if you're laid off over quarantine 😉
@@lelmorelel8972 Perhaps......
You can already buy non alcoholic "alcohol"
Nile red sold me self made fentanyl in the back of dollar general
"It was only a drop, but it still made me feel a bit sad" I felt that
Paul Rhodes when only a drop of sperm comes out
Emmanuel Zavala no
Emmanuel Zavala can you don’t
This is totally the final “fine I’ll do it myself” meme
Killer bean: *Decaffeinated*
@@vsaucenou323 🤭🤭🤭🤭
interlude - zach callison: fine, ill do it by myself!
Nile: Hold my Redbull...
It makes sense though. If Red Bull had said; "That's a great idea, we'll work on that." and it turns out to be commercially viable/popular. They're opening themselves up to be sued for millions of dollars when, in this case NileRed, contacts them that it was their initial idea that is now making them profit so pay up please.
He drank stuff in a lab. That's against the rules
If his students see this, *I’d be proud.*
He’s a teacher?
Wait thats illegal...
he didn't even put his goggles on
Like running with scissors 😮
I'm glad Nigel is validating my love for the smooth chemical drawl of a Diet Pepsi
this man is literally just "i did a thing", but with science.
If "I did a thing" went to university
and american and without all the jokes
@@rick4677 think he Canadian
@@251Jaylen same shit different smell
@@rick4677 im canadian, and i can confirm we smell like maple syrup not gunpowder
I love bits like 20:50: "I honestly kind of panicked here, and I thought that I had ruined everything - but then I realized I could just use the desiccator again." It makes me feel so much better when I hear a seasoned pro experience that sentiment we've all felt while doing extractions, hahaha.
it was also just ~5% too much water, i doubt it would've made much of a difference in taste :P
It actually made the whole video sound like he panik and kalm meme, like for example he messed up the first time=panik, the trend again and knew it wasnt a complete failure=kalm, then when he put too much water in=panik
"Chemistry is like cooking, but you don't lick the spoon"
Nile red: *licks the spoon
can you lick the science?
biology: the science licks you
chemistry: PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD NO DON'T LICK THE SCIENCE
"Montreal-based TH-camr accidentally creates new tongue illness"
Drug making chemists be like: [surprised pikachu]
@@lettuce7378 Physics: There's nothing to lick.
geologist:*disgusted look*
Bro's treating the desiccator like a microwave 💀
NileRed: Drinks science project
Science teachers: Wait that's illegal
PS do u watch memenade?
@@lewisho8114 what
@PadorUmin a channel that makes meme compilations
Wooow you spoiled the video :((
Not gonna lie, my left eye started twitching when he drank it.
redbull: "shit I'm sorry man we literally can't it's impossible..."
nile: "fine, I'll do it myself"
*queue the X-Files theme*
From what I saw it was impossible to take a non-employee's recommendation. Which makes it even more of a problem since this is a nice market that they're just ignoring.
nile: "oh shit its actually impossible"
@@KatotsuSama yeah, but they don't want to open themselves up to possible legal matters such as being accused of taking advantage of people and not compensating them properly for their work
Red Bull says it's not possible because without the caffeine, it won't give you wings anymore
Next time you do something like this give a look online for pictures of the European ingredients label for the same product: The stricter rules about ingredient labels in the EU might help to shed some light on the mysterious flavours and color additives they used.
For example, the "colours" turn out to be riboflavin and simple caramel.
hi you spelt mysterious wrong
@@pl-viet fixed, thanks
Surprisingly wholesome comments…
I had the exact same idea
isnt it like many firms change recipe just for Europe because they cant fit their products in these "strict" rules?
Can't understand shit, still one of the most entertaining channels out there
When literally making redbull seems easier than removing the caffeine from it
Make some caffeine free redbull...
its really hard to recreate soda flavoring
It’s like removing spices from a food, it’s obviously going to be harder.
123 you put it perfectly 👌
brb gotta take a number 2
I’m starting to believe that Nigel is the human version of the ”¯\_(ツ)_/¯” emoticon.
i mean this dude made a highly dangerous carcinogen just because he could, so like....yeah.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ maybe
RedBull: *rejects his idea*
NileRed: *fine, i'll do it myself*
Fuck it lets do it live
@@jamps_tv8778 We'll do it live! F*king thing!!
Nutshell
NileRedBull
NileRed: They called me a madman
Been watching your videos over a few months now and I mean this in a good way but this is the first one I’ve actually watched all the way through, I somehow always fall asleep for the end result and watch the same videos over because I keep falling asleep😂
Can of Red Bull: $3.20
Can of NileRed Bull: $460.10
Who tf pays 3.20 for a red bull
@@oliverkeely4767 him
i think you mean 420.69
@@oliverkeely4767 People who live in different countries with different taxes applied to items
@@Damond_Warrior EPICO
Teacher: "No caffeinated drinks in class"
Kids at the back of the class:
XDDD Underrated ahahahhahaha
@@matrixarsmusicworkshop561 You know it's a good comment when it has "underrated" replies 😂
I ruined you, legionaire dog.
I would like this comment, but I can't find the like button
Is that an actual rule in some classrooms?
His letter to Red Bull is so funny:
"Dear Red Bull, I love the nice *sweet lead chemical* flavor of your drink..."
Romans used to use lead as a sweetener
@@craigleverone414 they really *lead* the market in that area
craig leverone yeee lead acetate yum
the taste reminds me of how bubblebath (mr bubble brand) smells
It taste like the liquid polio vaccine I took as a child.
I love watching this at 2am, when I've procrastinated for two weeks when I should've been writing a big ass paper. Now I've chugged 3 rockstars and my heart feel funnï
did you finish the big ass paper?
0:53
They didn't reject your idea
They simply said they couldn't take your idea due to legal reasons (ie you could claim to be a creator of the drink and sue them)
They could have very well have been making a caffeine free version
Time to email redbull with a 1000 page doc of energy drink ideas and then just wait patiently.
@@inevitable48 big bucks
Thats not true. Unless an idea is patented, it belongs to the public and anyone can implement it without being sued.
@@OchiiDinUmbraa this is America
@@OchiiDinUmbraa that... Is not how this works.
Monster used to have a caffeine free energy drink called Monster: Unleaded that came in a gray can, but it was discontinued because nobody bought it. It had all the other energy blend stuff, but the stimulants were removed.
I had no idea 😢 I’m in the same boat in that I love the taste of Monster, but can’t have a lot of caffeine. Excuse me while I locate a time machine...
@@teacookieYT GET THE FLOATING PHONE MACHINE
As someone who loves the taste of Monster, but doesn't care a single bit for the caffeine stimulant, I was very excited to find out about this - then immediately disappointed because it was discontinued 6 months before I discovered it.
wait -- doesn't white monster not have caffeine?
@@therulerof3416 nope, it's just sugar free
Nile when dealing with Redbull: "It is of upmost importance that I do not make a single mistake in this delicate procedure. The taste of my drink is on the line."
Nile when dealing with the toxic, corrosive, deadly carcinogen Chromyl Chloride: "Oopsie I spilled some."
priorities man, priorities.
Utmost
lol
But if he put the deadly toxic chemicals in it he would drink it and ya know XD
Yes
Fun fact: Red Bull made products that are/were not energy drinks but sodas called “Organics: By Red Bull”, the flavors are/were Simply Cola, Bitter lemon, ginger beer, tonic water, and purple berry.
If Red Bull makes an Organics product that tasted like the original Red Bull, it could probably be a big success, since a lot of people drink Red Bull for the taste, but realize If they drink too much, they could have heart problems and/or die. So if a product like this was made, not only would people not have to worry about dying anymore, children could also drink it to without any worries to! Could also out perform the simply cola flavor and be the best selling of the bunch.
We could probably make a petition for this.
The RB Organics tonic water and ginger beer were great. I stocked my bar with both, but sadly they didn’t last long.
@@QEsposito510 Why 'were'? I'm not really a fan myself, but they're all still available here in Austria.
"To confirm this was caffeine, I just did a mad rip of it"
Bro this has me going crazy
warning: do not snort caffeine.
look it up
When we did the caffeine extraction lab in o chem, our prof explicitly told us not to snort it LOL
@@catc8927 Hogging it for themselves
*SUS*
- looks at caffeine molecule -
Me, 100% illiterate in chemistry: Ah yes that looks plenty extractible
To be fair, he doesn't seem to be too literate in chemistry himself. It's clearly not an acidic molecule and his confusion about the pKa value is mainly due to a lack of basic chemical knowledge. Which is ok - he never says he's a chemist, but he should maybe think about adding a disclaimer ^^
@@xBris in his about section he says he has a BSc in biochemistry but likes applied chemistry a lot
@@xBris well I'm no chemist, I'm only an engineer, but your comment seems to be the real acidic thing around here
@@xBris I don't get why he'd need to add a disclaimer when he never once called himself a chemist or pretended to be one.
@@hydraslair4723 Damn that was smooth
NileRed: "Unfortunately I had to start over again"
Me: "ah yes, the real scientific method"
WastingDCM.exe
@@Gabriel-yk4it lol
Next Nile red Video: Making wings from Red bull and flying across town with them
"What do you know about taurine?"
"It's _not_ made from bull testicles."
The best answer to any question, ever.
How are you? I'm not made from bull testicles.
What's your name? Not bull testicles
Taurine is "made" of Bile.
Taurine is in catfood. Cats still sleep 20hrs a day.
Bull testicle meatballs from IKEA.
MadDias 16hrs
"Dad, can we have some Red Bull ?"
"Sure thing ! just give me a few minutes to get it ready for you ..."
Nah hours
@@_bit_ Days
It's like breakfast at Martha Stewart's house:
First, you have to wait for the hand raised free range chickens to lay a few eggs, then get the sausage and bacon made from a nice tender little piglet grown in the back yard, and toast made from organic wheat, grown on the back 40...
The new "im gonna buy some milk" Joke
@@Sleight. you are right, you have to extract it overnight
Id love caffeine free watermelon redbull
NileRed: *Shakes the DCM too much*
NileRed a few seconds later: This maneuver is gonna cost us 51 years.
NileRed should I quit youtube my friends keep making fun of me for it
@@MatthewMilton yes
Matt Milton yes
nah only 10 hours
Woo Six it’s a reference to interstellar
Drinking game: Take a shot of Red Bull at 3 AM every time Nile says "To do this, I had to..."
oh no I've became more sleep deprived than a character in a nightmare on elm street movie
take a shot of vodka every time he says DCM, good luck people.
Do I take every shot simultaneously at 3am or do wait 24 hours between each shot?
@@alloounou6900 Just take a shot every time Nile says "To do this, I had to..."
"However..."
"It was a lot darker than the first run and I'm not really sure why"
Oh god we're back to the piss chemistry
Yellow chem bad
@@henrybyers5557 never trust the yellow chemicals
@@henrybyers5557 Beat me to it
Quick, someone get Ex&F in here!
@@henrybyers5557 Isn't taurine a component of urine,maybe that's all the stuff is just sterilized urine with a sweetener and artificial flavoring,like the juice of the Mink anal gland,it smells and tastes like Vanilla.
300atm CO2 is your solvent of choice for caffeine extraction. that's what they use on beans.
Nile: *has a small issue or makes a mistake*
Me having done nothing with chemistry in my entire life: rookie mistake
1: lol 169 likes
2: what?
@@TailGreat It's a joke about the same mentality people have when watching cooking shows, even though they themselves are not chefs. They watch a show where like, a chef has to make a three-course meal in fifteen minutes or some shit and they make a minor mistake, you go "heh, yeah you needed to cook the scallops more Brian".
Especially good when you criticize someone's Beef Wellington while brushing off Dorito crumbs.
Lmao
@@alanr1os665 NO, I DELETED YOU! GO AWAY!
@@JesterAzazel it never goes away
When you evaporated the DCM off in a vacuum, you most likely lost all the more volatile compounds that result in the smell
I'm wondering if you could somehow distill off the volatiles earlier in the process, probably before even the desiccator, and then reintroduce them after the caffeine extraction
@@ryancallaghan3888 maybe a vacuum still might do the trick, that way you don't have to boil them off with heat and risk changing the flavor too much
So, an improvement then.
About the smell: I suspect you may have "distilled" it off while removing the DCM. The fact that it smells at normal pressure means that some of it is definitely volatile, under a vacuum I'd say that more of it goes into the gas phase which is then removed along with the DCM, especially if you pull a vacuum on it for that long.
Separate the smell and make an aerosol, Red Bull air freshener is just what we need
@@alakani oh fucc this would sell
I think you're mistaken. Most of the smell ended up in the DCM that he drained out of the separatory funnel, and that DCM was never under vacuum. He separately cleaned it up and dried it on a hot plate in the vial, remember? That's where much the odorous chemical ended up, so clearly it was the DCM that pulled it out of the Redbull. Was there maybe SOME left in the Redbull that got vacuumed off? That's pure speculation. The fact is, much of the odor was extracted before he even applied a vacuum.
No Fullname yes, tis big brain time. This is also why I’m taking physics instead of chemistry next year :D
Wouldn't the desiccator also remove volatile stuff? He said the flavor was the same after that step, but didn't mention the smell. Of course as No Fullname mentioned, some of it did make it into the DCM. I wonder how much came out of it in each step.
Taking out the only redeemable thing in Red Bull. Madness.
Actually when you pulled a vaccum, most of the smelling flavours (volatile) get vapourised quickly and hence the smell...
Or no smell...
I think 10+ hrs of dehydration did it. Heat + ventilation = perfect deflavouration(or deodoration?)
Yep Benzene is highly volatile and thats the aromatic compund that give things like redbull its smell
@@Gilgameshh I'm completely 100% positive that red bull does _not_ have free benzene in it.
@@demoniack81 He's obviously talking about the functional group...
chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/38465/how-are-odor-and-electronic-structure-related-to-aromaticity
I laughed out loud at “It’s either 0.6, 0.8, or 14”
ah conflicting data is such a pain in the ass but eve nerver seen data on the same thing that is orders of magniude wrong
hey when's the meeting?
It's either 3am 4am or 9pm
It's0.6 and 14 AT THE SAME TIME
@@renanfilipe7459 superposition gang 🤘
@@ayyerr schrodinger's meeting
When you are reducing the water from red bull, you are actually increasing the acidic of the solution at the same time, that cause you to extract less caffeine.
Also, high conc solution has similar density to DCM, that make them hard to separate.
The TLC part really makes me fell painful as a formal Chemistry student.
Why are all the comments with likes are dumb jokes or making fun of the fact he never noticed he vacuumed the smell out, while comments like your hardly see the light of day.
Paeyton Lacusta One of the reasons I don’t really like TH-cam. All comment sections are the same.
@@sidneyjohnson6882 Indeed
@@sidneyjohnson6882 This is definitely a huge problem!
Like on memes' or comedy's videos, it's fine to up vote funny jokes. But on informative videos, now it's just a race of who will get the most likes from copied and over used jokes.
Not necessarily. You get rid of the carbonic acid and I, of course, do not know the exact compounds but aren't there substances lowering the pH only if in a certain medium, like water?
You said that it would take days for the emulsion to separate. I guess you could try mixing it up properly and then just waiting till it does separate. Pretty sure that the DCM just didn't have enough contact to extract more than 25 percent
As for the smell, when you used the thing to evaporate water from it, I think you also lost some of those ingredients/aroms/oils that like to evaporate.
pakeko
@@ashfaqyusuf9670 2 weeks 2 likes
Bomberman: Act Zero
@@yusha1059 3 weeks 116 likes, what's you're point?
@@Tice-Nits oy'rue*