Thank you for the interesting tutorial. I lived in Uganda 1984 until recently and I cooked on these all the time for several years until we had electricity that is, but we had so many power cuts that I always went back to using these. I learned to make every meal imaginable and even made cakes on it as well, I actually loved it so much that I've just bought one like yours to bring back a few good memories.. not forgetting the price of electricity right now anyway so using one of these again will hopefully keep the bills down..
Thank you for watching and your comment, Jake. I have gotten a few from people who used these types of stoves every day and I enjoy hearing the stories. It shows us all the connection we have across the globe.
I grew up cooking since I was a child on these stoves. We were a family of 7 so I used these stoves a lot, I used them every day several times a day for years and I can say they are very good.
Thank you for watching and your comment. The stoves are very easy and dependable, they are so simple. I had one person say they could explode and I know that is not true and you prove it as does so many other people who have used them for their everyday cooking for so many years.
@@MichiganHiker My grandma had one of these too, before we got gas and induction stove. I must say the foldable pot stand is a downgrade because the ones my grandma owned was from the Soviet era and they just welded it on the stove, no need for fancy foldable stand. And the leaky cap is a safety feature in case the stove overheating it'll just pop out instead of raising the pressure inside the fuel container. I suppose the rare cases of stove explosion are because the owner thought it was a design flaw and replaced the fuel container cap with a tightened cap. Of course the fuel will leak and evaporate and because of that so we drained the remaining fuel after use. It is still in used in rurals or disaster struck areas because transporting pressurised gas is not as easy and efficient as kerosene.
When I was younger ,we had paraffin heaters ,and lamps ,to prevent them from smoking, the wicks where steeped in vinegar over night and then left to air dry, never known them to smoke, have just ordered one of them , will try mine when it comes .
I also have this kerosene stove. I used it in a winter camping, but it was good enough that the CO2 concentration did not rise up even in the tent. 😀👍 Thank you...🤟
I have a 12x16 sun room that I like to use for an "office" (I'm retired though, so no work going on!) This is the first winter I've done this. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxl2o1MQU4aMgmFk_cMqer4nH2ptpDEM6h I have 2 x 1500 watt electric heaters that are on schedules in Home Assistant. After less than one month of that, I decided a new solution was needed (electric bill went up quite a bit more than expected). I have a 23,000 btu kerosene heater, so I tried that. It definitely works, too well! It heats the space up quickly, but you really can't turn these types of heater down and have then burn efficiently, so I was always lighting it and putting it out. I decided to try this model, and it is perfect for this application. In the morning at 0600 I turn both electric heaters on and light this heater. Within 30 minutes, it's up to 60 degrees (from 35 to 40F), and within an hour it's at 68F. At that point the electric heaters shut off and pretty much stay off the rest of the day. Fuel consumption is also greatly reduced (as would be expected, given that it's half the size/btu output). I can get 2 x 4 hour burns out of a full tank. I also like having these around as emergency backup heat, this is my third kerosene heater. I wish kerosene was cheaper, but not much you can do about that. I have read that you can use #1 diesel with a bit of alcohol added; not sure if I want to go through all that, although diesel is about 2 bucks a gallon cheaper. More research needed.
I have one of these, for the price they cant be beat. Cooks good, and lets off enough heat for a small area that keeps you nice and warm. My only complaint was the leaking as well, but for the most part this would be something I would just put in a fixed location and leave it. My coating came off on that part as well, I burned it for a video and then let it burn outside until it was all clean I like your spring mod, mine did not have that problem but its a great mod anyway. Hope you hit 1000 soon!
Thank you for watching my friend. I saw your video really good video right after I had ordered my stove. For the price and how simple they are, they really do work well. As I said, I may try and seal things up a bit to see if I can reduce the leaking issue or I will just be careful and not tip it enough to leak. Thanks again for watching and I always enjoy your videos!
@@Mrandy8895 it gives about 5500 btus. And as far as how high u can only keep it in blue flame, if u turn it too high the flame become yellow and at that point the stove will produce smoke and co2 wich can kill u in a closed space. Hope it helps.
Anon Z I agree I have one in my garage/workshop and one at my cabin when it's really really cold and the wood stove is not enough or I don't feel like building a fire.
Thank you for your comment and it I truly enjoy hearing the stories from other people. We all have much more in common than many of us realize. Best wishes to you.
Thanks! Such wick stoves have been and are still used in Asian countries, for cooking purposes. I was amazed to find the claim of the blue flame to be true. I've used them too it don't remember about the wick assembly lowering itself or any other weak spots. So it's nice of you to provide the possible solutions.
Thank you for watching and I appreciate your comments. this is an inexpensive stove there are some that are a little bit more money and a lot better quality. I'm glad you found my solution to the wick falling useful.
Thank you, it took a while but I got there. Now if I can find time to begin doing some videos, I would love to just be doing that. But alas, the bills need to be paid - lol,
@@MichiganHiker Oh yeah I feel you there lol You're extremely helpful in your reviews and educational videos, I wish it were people like you who blew up in popularity, I think the world would be a significantly better place. Again, you're appreciated; from research I've done you make no/little money on making these videos, which makes them all the more powerful. Knowledge is the most valuable resource anybody can ever have, and to spread it for free is amazing.
This video was very helpful. I got one for alternative cooking options,and it came with no pictures. I got a box of slightly dented very thin parts. I have a kerosene heater but this video was awesome thanks.
Thank you for your kind comments and of course for watching the video. Yes, that's how my came also. It's not the greatest unit in the world but it's inexpensive. The butterfly units that I put in one of the comments is a lot better but it's a lot more money. I've used my kerosene stove when I'm camping and I love it because I can leave it on for a long time and it doesn't use much fuel
Great review. I've had mine for a while now and it developed that same problem with the wicks constantly dropping. Thanks to your spring tip I can now fix that. Cheers 👍
Thank you friend, our channel work with the homeless alot and while offering them help to get off drugs we feed on the street. Always looking for easy ways to cook on the street
I bought one a year ago. I have no complaints except that when the stove was going for a long time, the plastic knob fell off due to the shaft getting hot and melting the plastic. Fixed that by installing a brass knob I had lying around. Other than that it makes a great cooker. I wouldn’t use it for a heater inside a tent though. It puts out a lot of stink. Sure, it’s cheaply made. It’s only $20.00, what do you expect. Just treat it nicely and it should last awhile.
Thanks for the comments and sorry it took so long to reply it has been crazy down here, Covid hit my house, but it was mild and it is done. The stove is a bit smelly but as you said, for $20, you get what you get. Happy New Year to you!
Excellent review! I saw these on eBay and was considering it. I think I'll go with the brass butterfly stove from St.Paul Mercantile. We had a similar stove back in the 1970s when I was stationed in Guam. Served us well when the island was without power due to a typhoon Pamela. Thanks for the review. Best regards, JA
Thanks for watching and your kind comments. The stoves from St. Paul Mercantile are much higher quality than the one I tested, which was a, "value" stove. Best regards to you also my friend.
Great review, thank you. I just ordered one from China but did not know what to expect or how it was reviewed untill I saw your video. Good work and thank you again. Regards from the Netherlands
Liked and subscribed. Greetings from Patagonia, Argentina. Those heaters bring back memories from my grandma who used that type of stove to heat her kettle for mate brewing (kind of a South American tea) I managed to get one in pristine condition for my collection and to have in case of an emergency to prepare hot meals and even heat small areas. The ones that can be found in my neck of the woods were made by a now extinct domestic company named Bram-Metal, and let me tell you, they were finely made out of brass and enameled steel like the kind applied on cookware. They take a tubular wick and came in several sizes mine being a mid size No3. As I write this I checked an online marketplace where to my surprise I found at least two new old stock units still in the box which must have been sitting in someone's attic or shelf for at least fifty years!
Thank for watching the video, subscribing and especially the comment! Some of the older stoves are just wonderful. Brass and enameled steel, wow. They must have looked great. I would love to find something like that. I have an old Coleman camp stove that is at least 60 years old and I am always looking for items like that. Thanks again and hope to hear more from you soon.
@@MichiganHiker I love Coleman products of which I own a couple kerosene lamps and a small newer dual fuel stove that to my eye, is as cute as a bug's ear. You can google Calentador Bram-Metal if you want to see the brass stove that I mentioned in my previous post. There's an eBay owned site www.mercadolibre.com.ar where you can find some new ones for sale for roughly 40 bucks. I wish I could send you one. Best regards.
Thank you for showing the short comings as well as the virtues of this little guy and how you corrected. I wonder if they couldn't have spent more time in development to get a completely blue flame; for efficiency as well as the cleanest burn.
If they had just spent a little, it wouldn't have cost all that much they could have greatly improved the stove. But I think what they were trying to do was just sell a product. I know I will be adapting mine some with new wicks and some other changes to see if it works better. Thanks for watching the video and I appreciate your comment, I always like to hear from people.
Excellent thorough presentation ...very informative. Thank you so much! I am designing a vegetable oil burner that has pseudo jetting and a mantle and riser tube/s, for enhanced efficiency, and this is very helpful.
Thanks for the comment and sorry for the delay in replying. I am going to keep an eye on your channel I want to see a vegetable burner that works like that. That would be great
Use a bit of alcohol on the wicks for super easy lighting from the top without having to fiddle with the bits while it is burning. I use an eye dropper to put it in from the top, then the fumes light easy and it starts with even less smoke because the alcohol burns so hot it gets everything started.
Just got one of these and your video proved instructive. I wondered about the construction which gave me doubts but it seems fine upon your explanation.
I am glad the video offered some help. They are rather "inexpensive" or perhaps the better word is cheap, but they work and for the price it is not too bad.
Well I didn't see that you left the comment and I'm so sorry! I really appreciate your kind words and I'm glad that the video helped. I definitely plan on keeping up with the videos and again thank you so much.
throws a nice heat and use a little kerosene at a time. used mine last weekend under a big shady tree. cooks a decent meal. nice video. thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching and your comments. The stove is very stingy on how much fuel it uses and works well for cooking small meals. For the price is does a good job.
I used one of these kero stove about 25 years ago. Can steam cakes, boiling water and the best part is cooking rice on it. The taste of rice cooking on it is much nicer than the rice cooked with electric rice cooker
Sorry for the delay and getting back to you I really appreciate your comment and I totally understand about how well these things cook. I was just in the back country and I needed hot water for my coffee or whatever else I lit that kerosene stove and it ran for four or five hours non-stop on maybe 12 oz of fuel.
I was sitting here thinking. . What has Larry D been up too.. then I relized I had not clicked the bell symbol.. good to see you Larry. . I like that little stove.. would be great for a cabin.
Great vid, thank you for sharing. I just came across one that looks like it's never been burned, but the wicks smell like they've had fuel on them. Came onto TH-cam to try and find some instructions and I'm excited to try it. 👍💯
Such kerosine stove is good item for prepping now. I guess also lamp oil and other things might work with it. Is a cheap prepping tool and also goo if you got a broken heating or no power at home while a snow storm. Really good video that shows you dont got to spend over 100$ to be prepared and have right stuff at home to keep warm and feeded when a bad situation comes up. The price is just a joke for what you can do with it.
Thank you for watching and your comment. There are many other stoves that look much better than this I agree, but as you said this one is much cheaper and works well
Pour a bit of denatured alcohol between the inner and outer perforated cylinders and light from above. Do it on a flame-proof surface, as some of the alcohol can go down the air draft holes onto the table The other way is to pass a bit of wire through all the cylinders, and bend the ends off. This is so you can pick the cylinders all at once half an inch and light the wicks from below. Less smoking that way, as you can drop the cylinders back down quicker once the wicks are lit
Thanks for the ideas on lighting the stove. I have thought about running a wire through the cylinders, but have not gotten around to it. The alcohol idea is not bad either. Thanks again, I will be trying the alcohol next time I use the stove.
Catalytic units have platinum as a catalyst for enhance combustion Kero stoves have a vaporizer column to suck air up to contact with the rising kero vapour, hence the beautiful blue flame
Great video Sir. Thank you. I have just bought one of these in November of 2022. Why on earth would I buy one? Well, in the UK, as is the case in many European countries, we are experiencing energy price hikes and a winter of potential blackouts. Sometimes you just have to go old school eh. Oh, and I have also bought 2 carbon monoxide detectors, and because I will be using this indoors I will make sure that I have a window open and airflow. Be safe people.
There's someone on Facebook Marketplace in my area selling the same type of kerosene stove for 15 bucks. Its in the same color. However, its a postwar vintage and made in the Netherlands by Verblifa. Would likely still run as its in mint condition... and the pot support is a sturdy metal ring, not those flimsy clips.
I have one of these stoves and they are good, But it does not last very long. The inner burner or tube with holes disintegrated after a few months of use making the unite useless as i cannot find anywhere that sells spare parts so i have to buy a brand new stove. I find that a full tank would last about 5-6 hours depending on how high you have the flame.
got one, been burning it in, it gets a bit hot , done a galon of fuel, i get a bit of a blow back on one of the legs, when it get really hot, one thing, you have to keep all the wicks same lengh as much as possible, thats me only input so far, use for for me coffee pot, hot water all day :)
Thanks for the comment and I know, it can be difficult to turn off at times. I just run my down low and then blow out the flames. Thats about all you can do.
Must express my sincere thanks to you -Sir for your great demo and detailed explanation. You have made a very good choice! As a matter of fact, I have been looking for a handy kerosene stove as a back up for energy supply. I must get one exactly as yours. Thanks again and would like to let you know that I have subscribed your video and will share that with my friends.
Thank you for watching and your kind comments. I try to get into a bit of detail when it is needed and I am glad you found this interesting. Thanks again and thanks for the sub.
Thank you for the question. The stove runs on kerosene as we call it in the United States, many other places it is called paraffin. If that is what you mean by fuel then fuel is what it runs on. I would assume when you say petrol you mean what we call gasoline, that cannot go in the stove it could explode. I hope I am being clear in this description.
It sounds like your wick lifting mechanism was a bit defective on yours. Most likely it would have been easier if you bought Dietz's stove (they do not just make hurricane lanterns, but a pressure lantern and kerosene stoves also).
Thank you for the comment and you are right I'm going to check out those other stoves and the lanterns. And yes the lifting mechanism was to say the least a bit defective but it's a really cheap stove so I didn't expect much. Sorry for the delay I had some surgery on my elbow and I cannot type all that well until it heals. Speech to text is rather useful.
been using Diesel as a tester with paraffin, not together, :), it works ok, i found it did not burn as hot as paraffin, but sitting on the river bank all day, it keeps the water hot for a cup of coffee, plus I have a diesel Veh, and a long tube, going to get some jet fuel, not petrol, the aviation fuel and try that, I have no prob using the lighter with it, i just fully turn up the wicks, light them, then turn down slowly, untill i get a all round flame, inside glowing blue, no flames coming out of top, I find if you have flames coming out top, it just soots up your cooking pots, the spring was a good idea, done that, the 3 feet, i put a screwdriver into the middle bits and widen them a bit, that way they did not move around so much, if you know wot I mean
@@MichiganHiker it is cheaper, but does not burn as hot, but when frying a egg, you don't wont it to hot, :), plus me coffee maker sits on top, just blubbering away nicely
Sorry for taking so long to reply and thank you for watching my video! As far as running it on diesel some people have said they do but for me I just stick with kerosene.
I'm having trouble with mine badly stinking up even large indoor spaces, let alone would I try to use it in the cabin I had intended it for. I'm getting the nice blue flame, so what gives? It did have diesel in it at one point, but I have since switched to clean kerosene. Suggestions?
How many watts do you think it produces at max? 🙂 I have one and is using it now to heat the garage a bit.... The electricity it historicaly high at the moment in Norway.... Worst at about 1.50 dollars per kWh.... You can ad a dollar extra in line rent it's i kind of tax.... Many poor people are gonna stuggle this Christmas in Norway
Honestly I have no idea how much it puts out I would think somewhere around 8000 BTUs but I'm not sure how that translates to watts. As far as the cost of electricity that is very tough and I'm sure there are going to be many people who are having a hard time and that's a sad thing. Certain utilities are a necessity in today's world and they shouldn't be priced where people can't afford it.
Didn't know they worked like that. So, I bought a '10/12' wicks one today, that also runs on diesel, and the fact that you can just light them up is great, no pumping or nozzles to clean. If the shit hits the fan, diesel and woodburner stoves are the thing :) But what kind of wicks ist this?
The stoves uses wicks that some call "mop string" or some such thing. One person said he bought cotton cord of the right diameter and used that, which is something I am going to try.
As of 9/2022, those cost a whopping $138.00 and you have to wait a month to get it. I wonder if you can replace those horrible cotton wicks with carbon felt ones. Wish you could have put a link up where to get one that cheap. Also, it has been 4 years since this video. Care to upload an update about it?
Thanks for watching and your comment Crazy Squirrel. As far as the cost the one I have is an inexpensive stove I purchased on Amazon, which is no longer available. But there are other inexpensive units, and I put the link below. The expensive really good stoves are hard to get now and yes are way overpriced. As far as replacing the wicks, I agree it would be great to try carbon felt or something other than the, "mop strings" that are used. I picked up some round cotton lantern wick and am going to give that a try. And yes, it is time for an update on the stove. If you have any questions or other comments, please make them I do appreciate it. Here is the Amazon link : www.amazon.com/Tongina-Portable-Outdoor-Kerosene-Diameter/dp/B08277FY2P/ref=dp_prsubs_2?pd_rd_i=B08277FY2P&psc=1
@@MichiganHiker In my hurricane lanterns I replaced the cotton flat wicks with carbon felt ones. I also sewn in some fine copper thread to act at a thermal feedback for when things get cold or if I use a thicker fuel. Wondering if the same could be done with the heater. Carbon felt does not wear out or get used up (but it will shrink a bit after a little time then stop shrinking). So I cut the length a little long for that reason. I do have to invert the lantern to 'prime' the wick every time I want to use it. Once set and trimmed, no further adjustments are needed. Reason cotton wicks burn up is running low on fuel. Keep trimming them and they sit higher and higher in the fuel and burn up quicker. No trimming carbon felt after initial trimming for size.
Ugh! You didn’t show us how to shut it down. Do you just lower the wicks? So far this has been the most thorough look at these cheapy stoves. I’ve been curious about them.
So sorry for the late reply, was in the backcountry and out of touch for a few days and then swamped when I got home. You are correct, I did not show how to put it out and you are right, just turn it down until it seems out, but it will not really be done. I have had to blow the wicks out when I use it. Good luck.
Thank you, this change came right when I was planning on ramping up my video production, a bit discouraging but all any of us can do is to keep moving forward. Good luck to you also!
Thanks for your comment and sub!! Work is taking a lot of my time now but I have been playing with a few ideas with this stove. When the time allows I will test them out.
Thanks for the question. To be honest I really don't have a time span on the life of the wicks. I need to replace mine now and I have not been using the stove a lot recently, so really no idea.
The butterfly stoves are excellent and St. Paul Mercantile is a great little company. The kind of companies we need to support. You can check out everything they have, which is a really wide variety at: www.stpaulmercantile.com/
Thanks Hiker for the videos They have helped me alot. I have a question maybe you can help me, I have a 14 wiks butterfly stove Every time I used the stove I have to throw the wicks a little out. Is that normal or can I avoid it in some way? Thank you
Sorry for taking so long to get back on this. I'm not sure I understand your question Are you saying that the wicks are burning down quickly? I know I've been surprised how fast the Wicks will get burned up at times and I end up having to pull up more through to make them level again.
I bought kerosene 1 - k specification.triple filtered for purity and best for fueling low odour hearters.please can I use it for dame stove?thanks for your answer
Did you have the lighter soaked in paraffin before you lit it? If not that could explain why you had problems. It looks like your one just burned away.
I assume you mean from under the pot. Well, I just turn it down a bit. I will be using it a lot more this fall and winter and will see how it does in the cold.
Thanks for the comment and yes you are right. But really kerosene will light up relatively easy even when it's extremely cold it does take a minute but it will get going. Thanks again
Thanks for the comment and sorry for the delay in replying, as I explained to a couple other people I had some surgery done on my elbow and my right hand is not back to normal yet they bumped a nerve. Either way you're right I did the same thing I figured an inexpensive stove I can make it better. I'm going to try some new wick material and I have another idea for the combustion chamber afterburner or whatever you want to call it on the top. Good luck on your modifications let me know how it goes
Been using the same kerosene stove for a month now. I changed the wick and the kerosene/oil yesterday and I have a problem. The wick wouldn't absorb the kerosene. What should I do?
I am surprised you had to replace the wicks so soon. And that is really odd about the wicks not absorbing the kero. The only thing I can think of is that perhaps the fabric they are made of have a coating. The first thing I would try, and this is just a guess, is to add 1 ounce of 90 percent isopropyl alcohol to the tank of kero and see if that helps. If that doesn't help, maybe take them out and wash them with a detergent in a container you can toss, (the kero smell will hang around), rinse them very thoroughly and dry them completely. Either way let me know what happens and good luck!
@@MichiganHiker I found out what was the problem. The wick I used before was to thick and that was the reason why it wouldn't absorb kero. I bought another wick with different brand and it actually worked. Thank you.
Thank you for the interesting tutorial. I lived in Uganda 1984 until recently and I cooked on these all the time for several years until we had electricity that is, but we had so many power cuts that I always went back to using these. I learned to make every meal imaginable and even made cakes on it as well, I actually loved it so much that I've just bought one like yours to bring back a few good memories.. not forgetting the price of electricity right now anyway so using one of these again will hopefully keep the bills down..
Thank you for watching and your comment, Jake. I have gotten a few from people who used these types of stoves every day and I enjoy hearing the stories. It shows us all the connection we have across the globe.
I grew up cooking since I was a child on these stoves. We were a family of 7 so I used these stoves a lot, I used them every day several times a day for years and I can say they are very good.
Thank you for watching and your comment. The stoves are very easy and dependable, they are so simple. I had one person say they could explode and I know that is not true and you prove it as does so many other people who have used them for their everyday cooking for so many years.
@@MichiganHiker My grandma had one of these too, before we got gas and induction stove. I must say the foldable pot stand is a downgrade because the ones my grandma owned was from the Soviet era and they just welded it on the stove, no need for fancy foldable stand. And the leaky cap is a safety feature in case the stove overheating it'll just pop out instead of raising the pressure inside the fuel container. I suppose the rare cases of stove explosion are because the owner thought it was a design flaw and replaced the fuel container cap with a tightened cap. Of course the fuel will leak and evaporate and because of that so we drained the remaining fuel after use. It is still in used in rurals or disaster struck areas because transporting pressurised gas is not as easy and efficient as kerosene.
When I was younger ,we had paraffin heaters ,and lamps ,to prevent them from smoking, the wicks where steeped in vinegar over night and then left to air dry, never known them to smoke, have just ordered one of them , will try mine when it comes .
How did the vinegar work out?
Works great ,good little stoves
I also have this kerosene stove.
I used it in a winter camping, but it was good enough that the CO2 concentration
did not rise up even in the tent. 😀👍
Thank you...🤟
i dont think i'll ever need a kerosene stove, but appreciate the detailed explanation/review/improvements. Really odd comment i know... but thanks. :)
I have a 12x16 sun room that I like to use for an "office" (I'm retired though, so no work going on!) This is the first winter I've done this. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxl2o1MQU4aMgmFk_cMqer4nH2ptpDEM6h I have 2 x 1500 watt electric heaters that are on schedules in Home Assistant. After less than one month of that, I decided a new solution was needed (electric bill went up quite a bit more than expected). I have a 23,000 btu kerosene heater, so I tried that. It definitely works, too well! It heats the space up quickly, but you really can't turn these types of heater down and have then burn efficiently, so I was always lighting it and putting it out. I decided to try this model, and it is perfect for this application. In the morning at 0600 I turn both electric heaters on and light this heater. Within 30 minutes, it's up to 60 degrees (from 35 to 40F), and within an hour it's at 68F. At that point the electric heaters shut off and pretty much stay off the rest of the day. Fuel consumption is also greatly reduced (as would be expected, given that it's half the size/btu output). I can get 2 x 4 hour burns out of a full tank. I also like having these around as emergency backup heat, this is my third kerosene heater. I wish kerosene was cheaper, but not much you can do about that. I have read that you can use #1 diesel with a bit of alcohol added; not sure if I want to go through all that, although diesel is about 2 bucks a gallon cheaper. More research needed.
I have one of these, for the price they cant be beat. Cooks good, and lets off enough heat for a small area that keeps you nice and warm. My only complaint was the leaking as well, but for the most part this would be something I would just put in a fixed location and leave it. My coating came off on that part as well, I burned it for a video and then let it burn outside until it was all clean I like your spring mod, mine did not have that problem but its a great mod anyway. Hope you hit 1000 soon!
Thank you for watching my friend. I saw your video really good video right after I had ordered my stove. For the price and how simple they are, they really do work well. As I said, I may try and seal things up a bit to see if I can reduce the leaking issue or I will just be careful and not tip it enough to leak. Thanks again for watching and I always enjoy your videos!
Well look who ya find when you check out new people..LOL
How much heat does it give off? Say in a camper van would it keep it toasty warm? And how high do you have to run it to keep good warmth??
@@Mrandy8895 it gives about 5500 btus. And as far as how high u can only keep it in blue flame, if u turn it too high the flame become yellow and at that point the stove will produce smoke and co2 wich can kill u in a closed space. Hope it helps.
Thanks for the tip with the spring, it helped me alot, i hope you will hit the one thousand.
Greetings from Germany
Just bought this stove from ebay 15 us dollars including shipping 👍 really happy with it, greetings from Norway
I just noticed I did not reply I gave it a heart but did not reply. Great to hear from you in Norway thank you so much!
I have a kerosun heater for power outages too, freaking love that thing!
Anon Z I agree I have one in my garage/workshop and one at my cabin when it's really really cold and the wood stove is not enough or I don't feel like building a fire.
Now just add an Aladdin kerosene mantle lamp, and you will have the trifecta: heating, cooking, and good bright light!
I am from Malaysia.Used this when first taking up teaching back in the late 80s...It's kinda having luxury stove using this back then....
Thank you for your comment and it I truly enjoy hearing the stories from other people. We all have much more in common than many of us realize. Best wishes to you.
Thanks!
Such wick stoves have been and are still used in Asian countries, for cooking purposes. I was amazed to find the claim of the blue flame to be true.
I've used them too it don't remember about the wick assembly lowering itself or any other weak spots.
So it's nice of you to provide the possible solutions.
Thank you for watching and I appreciate your comments. this is an inexpensive stove there are some that are a little bit more money and a lot better quality. I'm glad you found my solution to the wick falling useful.
This one is a cheap one made by a Chinese Company. Dietz does make them as well.
Great video, thanks.
Congratulations on hitting 1,000!
Thank you, it took a while but I got there. Now if I can find time to begin doing some videos, I would love to just be doing that. But alas, the bills need to be paid - lol,
@@MichiganHiker Oh yeah I feel you there lol
You're extremely helpful in your reviews and educational videos, I wish it were people like you who blew up in popularity, I think the world would be a significantly better place.
Again, you're appreciated; from research I've done you make no/little money on making these videos, which makes them all the more powerful. Knowledge is the most valuable resource anybody can ever have, and to spread it for free is amazing.
This video was very helpful. I got one for alternative cooking options,and it came with no pictures. I got a box of slightly dented very thin parts. I have a kerosene heater but this video was awesome thanks.
Thank you for your kind comments and of course for watching the video. Yes, that's how my came also. It's not the greatest unit in the world but it's inexpensive. The butterfly units that I put in one of the comments is a lot better but it's a lot more money. I've used my kerosene stove when I'm camping and I love it because I can leave it on for a long time and it doesn't use much fuel
Great review. I've had mine for a while now and it developed that same problem with the wicks constantly dropping. Thanks to your spring tip I can now fix that. Cheers 👍
Thank you friend, our channel work with the homeless alot and while offering them help to get off drugs we feed on the street. Always looking for easy ways to cook on the street
I bought one a year ago. I have no complaints except that when the stove was going for a long time, the plastic knob fell off due to the shaft getting hot and melting the plastic. Fixed that by installing a brass knob I had lying around. Other than that it makes a great cooker. I wouldn’t use it for a heater inside a tent though. It puts out a lot of stink. Sure, it’s cheaply made. It’s only $20.00, what do you expect. Just treat it nicely and it should last awhile.
Thanks for the comments and sorry it took so long to reply it has been crazy down here, Covid hit my house, but it was mild and it is done. The stove is a bit smelly but as you said, for $20, you get what you get. Happy New Year to you!
Use to use a kerosene heater but it was giving my wife head aches so switched to propane. Now I'm responsible for most of her headaches , lol.
Thanks for watching and your comment, which my wife loved. She said she figured out who, I mean what was causing her headaches a long time ago - lol
🤣🤣🙏🙏
She gets headaches because your not providing enough airflow/fresh air
Coyote Ridge, aren’t we all. Aren’t we all. You’re wife must know mine.
Excellent review! I saw these on eBay and was considering it. I think I'll go with the brass butterfly stove from St.Paul Mercantile. We had a similar stove back in the 1970s when I was stationed in Guam. Served us well when the island was without power due to a typhoon Pamela. Thanks for the review. Best regards, JA
Thanks for watching and your kind comments. The stoves from St. Paul Mercantile are much higher quality than the one I tested, which was a, "value" stove. Best regards to you also my friend.
Thanks for doing this video. I just bought one of these and have my misgivings but this tutorial has shown me how to address this. Subscribed.
I just ordered one of these for camping can't wait to get it
Great review, thank you. I just ordered one from China but did not know what to expect or how it was reviewed untill I saw your video. Good work and thank you again. Regards from the Netherlands
Liked and subscribed. Greetings from Patagonia, Argentina. Those heaters bring back memories from my grandma who used that type of stove to heat her kettle for mate brewing (kind of a South American tea) I managed to get one in pristine condition for my collection and to have in case of an emergency to prepare hot meals and even heat small areas. The ones that can be found in my neck of the woods were made by a now extinct domestic company named Bram-Metal, and let me tell you, they were finely made out of brass and enameled steel like the kind applied on cookware. They take a tubular wick and came in several sizes mine being a mid size No3. As I write this I checked an online marketplace where to my surprise I found at least two new old stock units still in the box which must have been sitting in someone's attic or shelf for at least fifty years!
Thank for watching the video, subscribing and especially the comment! Some of the older stoves are just wonderful. Brass and enameled steel, wow. They must have looked great. I would love to find something like that. I have an old Coleman camp stove that is at least 60 years old and I am always looking for items like that. Thanks again and hope to hear more from you soon.
@@MichiganHiker I love Coleman products of which I own a couple kerosene lamps and a small newer dual fuel stove that to my eye, is as cute as a bug's ear. You can google Calentador Bram-Metal if you want to see the brass stove that I mentioned in my previous post. There's an eBay owned site www.mercadolibre.com.ar where you can find some new ones for sale for roughly 40 bucks. I wish I could send you one. Best regards.
Thank you for showing the short comings as well as the virtues of this little guy and how you corrected. I wonder if they couldn't have spent more time in development to get a completely blue flame; for efficiency as well as the cleanest burn.
If they had just spent a little, it wouldn't have cost all that much they could have greatly improved the stove. But I think what they were trying to do was just sell a product. I know I will be adapting mine some with new wicks and some other changes to see if it works better. Thanks for watching the video and I appreciate your comment, I always like to hear from people.
@@MichiganHiker ~ You're welcome, buddy.
Excellent thorough presentation ...very informative. Thank you so much! I am designing a vegetable oil burner that has pseudo jetting and a mantle and riser tube/s, for enhanced efficiency, and this is very helpful.
Thanks for the comment and sorry for the delay in replying. I am going to keep an eye on your channel I want to see a vegetable burner that works like that. That would be great
I want to buy one of these to camping on the beach! Greetings from Venezuela 🎉🎉
Use a bit of alcohol on the wicks for super easy lighting from the top without having to fiddle with the bits while it is burning. I use an eye dropper to put it in from the top, then the fumes light easy and it starts with even less smoke because the alcohol burns so hot it gets everything started.
Nice tip!!
Just got one of these and your video proved instructive. I wondered about the construction which gave me doubts but it seems fine upon your explanation.
I am glad the video offered some help. They are rather "inexpensive" or perhaps the better word is cheap, but they work and for the price it is not too bad.
Just bought one and received it didn't know how to put it together thank you for your video it helped a lot keep making videos
Well I didn't see that you left the comment and I'm so sorry! I really appreciate your kind words and I'm glad that the video helped. I definitely plan on keeping up with the videos and again thank you so much.
Thumbs up from the UK 👍👍
Thanks for the visit
Thank you for your advice, I have just ordered one from ebay here in England.
I've been looking at these for deer camp .
throws a nice heat and use a little kerosene at a time. used mine last weekend under a big shady tree. cooks a decent meal. nice video. thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching and your comments. The stove is very stingy on how much fuel it uses and works well for cooking small meals. For the price is does a good job.
I used one of these kero stove about 25 years ago. Can steam cakes, boiling water and the best part is cooking rice on it. The taste of rice cooking on it is much nicer than the rice cooked with electric rice cooker
Sorry for the delay and getting back to you I really appreciate your comment and I totally understand about how well these things cook. I was just in the back country and I needed hot water for my coffee or whatever else I lit that kerosene stove and it ran for four or five hours non-stop on maybe 12 oz of fuel.
I was sitting here thinking. . What has Larry D been up too.. then I relized I had not clicked the bell symbol.. good to see you Larry. . I like that little stove.. would be great for a cabin.
Thank you. Wow I wish I bought mines 4 years ago they're selling it for over a hundred and some dollars today online
Ebay has this exact stove for $25, and similar stoves for $18.
Thank you for the information how this stove works!
Great vid, thank you for sharing. I just came across one that looks like it's never been burned, but the wicks smell like they've had fuel on them. Came onto TH-cam to try and find some instructions and I'm excited to try it. 👍💯
Hope you got a good deal on the stove. I love it when I find something used that looks like it is new. Save money, always.
Such kerosine stove is good item for prepping now. I guess also lamp oil and other things might work with it. Is a cheap prepping tool and also goo if you got a broken heating or no power at home while a snow storm. Really good video that shows you dont got to spend over 100$ to be prepared and have right stuff at home to keep warm and feeded when a bad situation comes up. The price is just a joke for what you can do with it.
I just ordered one, I can't wait to use it.
The stainless ones look good but these are so cheap and run well. Thanks for the video
Thank you for watching and your comment. There are many other stoves that look much better than this I agree, but as you said this one is much cheaper and works well
A good choice for power outages in winter, like the one in Texas in 2021, if you use an electric stove.
Pour a bit of denatured alcohol between the inner and outer perforated cylinders and light from above.
Do it on a flame-proof surface, as some of the alcohol can go down the air draft holes onto the table
The other way is to pass a bit of wire through all the cylinders, and bend the ends off. This is so you can pick the cylinders all at once half an inch and light the wicks from below. Less smoking that way, as you can drop the cylinders back down quicker once the wicks are lit
Thanks for the ideas on lighting the stove. I have thought about running a wire through the cylinders, but have not gotten around to it. The alcohol idea is not bad either. Thanks again, I will be trying the alcohol next time I use the stove.
Thank you very much for the tips and video.
Firewheel! They're still $17 (cheapest price on Amazon). They work great!
Good thinking on the spring.
just found this, going to get one, as a fisherman, will come in handy
Kerosene is also good for the overhead light in your kitchen as well as a kitchen stove.
Yeah, an Aladdin hanging kerosene mantle lamp, and a vintage perfection kerosene kitchen stove!
Catalytic units have platinum as a catalyst for enhance combustion
Kero stoves have a vaporizer column to suck air up to contact with the rising kero vapour, hence the beautiful blue flame
Thank you and you are absolutely correct, my error in terminology. I appreciate the feedback.
Great video Sir. Thank you. I have just bought one of these in November of 2022. Why on earth would I buy one? Well, in the UK, as is the case in many European countries, we are experiencing energy price hikes and a winter of potential blackouts. Sometimes you just have to go old school eh. Oh, and I have also bought 2 carbon monoxide detectors, and because I will be using this indoors I will make sure that I have a window open and airflow. Be safe people.
There's someone on Facebook Marketplace in my area selling the same type of kerosene stove for 15 bucks. Its in the same color. However, its a postwar vintage and made in the Netherlands by Verblifa. Would likely still run as its in mint condition... and the pot support is a sturdy metal ring, not those flimsy clips.
Thanks for the comment, that sounds good.
You got it buddy! Best wishes.
Thanks 👍
I have 2 larger kerosene heaters....great. Got one of these.....stank out the house, irrespective of how I adjusted it! Gave me headaches....avoid!
it would be interesting to see if this stove would work on vegetable oil, if you replaced the wicks with a carbon-felt wick
I have one of these stoves and they are good, But it does not last very long. The inner burner or tube with holes disintegrated after a few months of use making the unite useless as i cannot find anywhere that sells spare parts so i have to buy a brand new stove. I find that a full tank would last about 5-6 hours depending on how high you have the flame.
The stove works very well. Thank you for demonstration!
got one, been burning it in, it gets a bit hot , done a galon of fuel, i get a bit of a blow back on one of the legs, when it get really hot, one thing, you have to keep all the wicks same lengh as much as possible, thats me only input so far, use for for me coffee pot, hot water all day :)
New sub ! Thank you for your time ! Very interesting video !!! Two thumbs up ! 👍👍🙏
Thanks for the sub!
This is a good stove great review it's a neat device 😊 nice clean burn 😊
Thank you for watching and your comment! For the price, it works really well, the only time I noticed any odor when when you shut it down.
We’ve just bought one of these and I’m so glad you made this video.
Just one question. How do you turn it off?
Thanks for the comment and I know, it can be difficult to turn off at times. I just run my down low and then blow out the flames. Thats about all you can do.
Must express my sincere thanks to you -Sir for your great demo and detailed explanation. You have made a very good choice! As a matter of fact, I have been looking for a handy kerosene stove as a back up for energy supply. I must get one exactly as yours. Thanks again and would like to let you know that I have subscribed your video and will share that with my friends.
Thank you for watching and your kind comments. I try to get into a bit of detail when it is needed and I am glad you found this interesting. Thanks again and thanks for the sub.
I subscribed just to help you out. Good luck with your videos.
Pop Holmes hey thank you very much every sub helps and I do appreciate it.
This is the best damned review of this type stove. Thanks for the time and trouble. We subscribe.👍👍👍👍👍👌
Great review. Thanks man. I might buy one. 🇬🇧👍
Thanks for this video ! Just to nkow, inside of this stove, you put fuel or petrole ?
Thanks !
Thank you for the question. The stove runs on kerosene as we call it in the United States, many other places it is called paraffin. If that is what you mean by fuel then fuel is what it runs on. I would assume when you say petrol you mean what we call gasoline, that cannot go in the stove it could explode. I hope I am being clear in this description.
nice video uncle
Thank you for the kind comment my friend
How do you switch the fire off
great video really enjoyed your demo subbed thanks :)
It sounds like your wick lifting mechanism was a bit defective on yours. Most likely it would have been easier if you bought Dietz's stove (they do not just make hurricane lanterns, but a pressure lantern and kerosene stoves also).
Thank you for the comment and you are right I'm going to check out those other stoves and the lanterns. And yes the lifting mechanism was to say the least a bit defective but it's a really cheap stove so I didn't expect much. Sorry for the delay I had some surgery on my elbow and I cannot type all that well until it heals. Speech to text is rather useful.
been using Diesel as a tester with paraffin, not together, :), it works ok, i found it did not burn as hot as paraffin, but sitting on the river bank all day, it keeps the water hot for a cup of coffee, plus I have a diesel Veh, and a long tube, going to get some jet fuel, not petrol, the aviation fuel and try that, I have no prob using the lighter with it, i just fully turn up the wicks, light them, then turn down slowly, untill i get a all round flame, inside glowing blue, no flames coming out of top, I find if you have flames coming out top, it just soots up your cooking pots, the spring was a good idea, done that, the 3 feet, i put a screwdriver into the middle bits and widen them a bit, that way they did not move around so much, if you know wot I mean
I am sticking with kerosene or as you call it paraffin, but I have heard from a couple people who say diesel works better and is less expensive.
@@MichiganHiker it is cheaper, but does not burn as hot, but when frying a egg, you don't wont it to hot, :), plus me coffee maker sits on top, just blubbering away nicely
Thank you for the very informative video 👍
Thank you for your comment and I'm glad that the video was informative for you.
Just subscribed..great review
realy nice wonder if it works on diesel but its cool as anything
Sorry for taking so long to reply and thank you for watching my video! As far as running it on diesel some people have said they do but for me I just stick with kerosene.
I'm having trouble with mine badly stinking up even large indoor spaces, let alone would I try to use it in the cabin I had intended it for. I'm getting the nice blue flame, so what gives? It did have diesel in it at one point, but I have since switched to clean kerosene. Suggestions?
How many watts do you think it produces at max? 🙂 I have one and is using it now to heat the garage a bit.... The electricity it historicaly high at the moment in Norway.... Worst at about 1.50 dollars per kWh.... You can ad a dollar extra in line rent it's i kind of tax.... Many poor people are gonna stuggle this Christmas in Norway
That's brutal! Electricity here in Canada is 8.5 too 11 cents per kWh and about $30.00 monthly in line charges.
Honestly I have no idea how much it puts out I would think somewhere around 8000 BTUs but I'm not sure how that translates to watts. As far as the cost of electricity that is very tough and I'm sure there are going to be many people who are having a hard time and that's a sad thing. Certain utilities are a necessity in today's world and they shouldn't be priced where people can't afford it.
Didn't know they worked like that. So, I bought a '10/12' wicks one today, that also runs on diesel, and the fact that you can just light them up is great, no pumping or nozzles to clean. If the shit hits the fan, diesel and woodburner stoves are the thing :) But what kind of wicks ist this?
The stoves uses wicks that some call "mop string" or some such thing. One person said he bought cotton cord of the right diameter and used that, which is something I am going to try.
I wanna make a pocket sized version of one of these that can use any type of fuel.
I'm thinking of making a small one, but its the wicks bit and metal walls with lots of holes in that is stopping me,
My father used that when i was young and it was mellow i never get angry or fearful but gas stove and navy grill makee jumpy talkative and over active
As of 9/2022, those cost a whopping $138.00 and you have to wait a month to get it.
I wonder if you can replace those horrible cotton wicks with carbon felt ones.
Wish you could have put a link up where to get one that cheap.
Also, it has been 4 years since this video.
Care to upload an update about it?
Thanks for watching and your comment Crazy Squirrel. As far as the cost the one I have is an inexpensive stove I purchased on Amazon, which is no longer available. But there are other inexpensive units, and I put the link below. The expensive really good stoves are hard to get now and yes are way overpriced.
As far as replacing the wicks, I agree it would be great to try carbon felt or something other than the, "mop strings" that are used. I picked up some round cotton lantern wick and am going to give that a try.
And yes, it is time for an update on the stove.
If you have any questions or other comments, please make them I do appreciate it.
Here is the Amazon link :
www.amazon.com/Tongina-Portable-Outdoor-Kerosene-Diameter/dp/B08277FY2P/ref=dp_prsubs_2?pd_rd_i=B08277FY2P&psc=1
@@MichiganHiker In my hurricane lanterns I replaced the cotton flat wicks with carbon felt ones.
I also sewn in some fine copper thread to act at a thermal feedback for when things get cold or if I use a thicker fuel.
Wondering if the same could be done with the heater.
Carbon felt does not wear out or get used up (but it will shrink a bit after a little time then stop shrinking).
So I cut the length a little long for that reason.
I do have to invert the lantern to 'prime' the wick every time I want to use it.
Once set and trimmed, no further adjustments are needed.
Reason cotton wicks burn up is running low on fuel.
Keep trimming them and they sit higher and higher in the fuel and burn up quicker.
No trimming carbon felt after initial trimming for size.
Ugh! You didn’t show us how to shut it down. Do you just lower the wicks?
So far this has been the most thorough look at these cheapy stoves. I’ve been curious about them.
So sorry for the late reply, was in the backcountry and out of touch for a few days and then swamped when I got home. You are correct, I did not show how to put it out and you are right, just turn it down until it seems out, but it will not really be done. I have had to blow the wicks out when I use it. Good luck.
Hope you hit the 1000 mark quickly
Thank you, this change came right when I was planning on ramping up my video production, a bit discouraging but all any of us can do is to keep moving forward. Good luck to you also!
Thank you! This was very helpful. :)
Very nice video
That's a nice wicked stove! first time I saw one. I just subscribed by the way...
Thanks for your comment and sub!! Work is taking a lot of my time now but I have been playing with a few ideas with this stove. When the time allows I will test them out.
How long do the wicks last? And do they need replacing? Thanks
Thanks for the question. To be honest I really don't have a time span on the life of the wicks. I need to replace mine now and I have not been using the stove a lot recently, so really no idea.
Butterfly gravity cook stoves & ovens are based on American Boss Company. St. Paul Mercantile is a great Company to work with. God bless.
The butterfly stoves are excellent and St. Paul Mercantile is a great little company. The kind of companies we need to support.
You can check out everything they have, which is a really wide variety at: www.stpaulmercantile.com/
Thanks Hiker for the videos They have helped me alot.
I have a question maybe you can help me,
I have a 14 wiks butterfly stove Every time I used the stove I have to throw the wicks a little out.
Is that normal or can I avoid it in some way?
Thank you
Sorry for taking so long to get back on this. I'm not sure I understand your question Are you saying that the wicks are burning down quickly? I know I've been surprised how fast the Wicks will get burned up at times and I end up having to pull up more through to make them level again.
Thank you for letting me know I might try that too with the wicks. That is a great idea.
I bought kerosene 1 - k specification.triple filtered for purity and best for fueling low odour hearters.please can I use it for dame stove?thanks for your answer
Thank you for the question and yes, 1 k kerosene is perfect for the stoves. It really is the absolute best fuel.
@@MichiganHiker thank you so much
Hi there, what kind of wicks do you use please?
I have a janata kerosene stove and it works fine also
Did you have the lighter soaked in paraffin before you lit it? If not that could explain why you had problems. It looks like your one just burned away.
Thanks for watching and yes you're correct it just burned up. The lighter actually sits down in the kerosene and I have no idea why it did that.
What happens when the flames start scattering outside the stove?
I assume you mean from under the pot. Well, I just turn it down a bit. I will be using it a lot more this fall and winter and will see how it does in the cold.
@@MichiganHiker thanks really helpful. 😊
Thank you👍
You welcome bro 💓
Use a tiny squeeze bottle of kerosine to prime the wicks before lighting
Thank you for the comment and that is an excellent idea. I will definitely try that next time I use the stove.
The colder it is, the harder to light up the wicks.
Thanks for the comment and yes you are right. But really kerosene will light up relatively easy even when it's extremely cold it does take a minute but it will get going. Thanks again
I intentionally bought this stove knowing how cheap it is. I can’t wait to get it so I can improve it
Thanks for the comment and sorry for the delay in replying, as I explained to a couple other people I had some surgery done on my elbow and my right hand is not back to normal yet they bumped a nerve. Either way you're right I did the same thing I figured an inexpensive stove I can make it better. I'm going to try some new wick material and I have another idea for the combustion chamber afterburner or whatever you want to call it on the top. Good luck on your modifications let me know how it goes
@@MichiganHiker thanks for the reply!!
Been using the same kerosene stove for a month now. I changed the wick and the kerosene/oil yesterday and I have a problem. The wick wouldn't absorb the kerosene. What should I do?
I am surprised you had to replace the wicks so soon. And that is really odd about the wicks not absorbing the kero. The only thing I can think of is that perhaps the fabric they are made of have a coating. The first thing I would try, and this is just a guess, is to add 1 ounce of 90 percent isopropyl alcohol to the tank of kero and see if that helps.
If that doesn't help, maybe take them out and wash them with a detergent in a container you can toss, (the kero smell will hang around), rinse them very thoroughly and dry them completely.
Either way let me know what happens and good luck!
@@MichiganHiker I found out what was the problem. The wick I used before was to thick and that was the reason why it wouldn't absorb kero. I bought another wick with different brand and it actually worked. Thank you.
Try using carbon felt will last forever
I got mine for £7 on eBay in the UK including postage. Bargain. I use it as a heater under my brolly in the backyard. And for making tea of course.
Subscribe I hope it helps out thanks for the video just curious can this thing be used as a heater