Thorin's Company After The Hobbit - Epilogues
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- The members of Thorin’s Company would live out the rest of their days as heroes of the Third Age, but their honourable deeds and tribulations did not end after the Battle of the Five Armies. Thank you all so much for watching, I hope you guys enjoyed today’s episode. Let me know your thoughts about these characters and their epilogues, and I will see you all again next week! As always, a great thanks to the online artists whose visual works made this video possible! If you are one of the artists, please let me know and I will post your name and a link to your work in this description!
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The 7 surviving dwarfs left, found a mine in a strange country and befriended a lost young girl.
Rose red.
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Lol well played
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Knowing Balin's fate from the first "Lord of the Rings" film made watching the "Hobbit" films bittersweet.
It is strange too. In the films Balin was the more cautious, albeit cunning, dwarves of the company. I feel like he'd be the last one to lead such a dangerous expedition. Now... Dwalin in the films... hell yes lol
@@mikey_vengenz dwalin would have killed the cave troll in moria...and possibly would have been Durin's Bane's bane
@@calebroberts08 😂
Yes...
I think that because of that you get to know and like Balin in The Hobbit films (with Ken Stott's portrayal of the wise and lovable dwarf), The finding of his tomb in Moria makes it even sadder and feel for Gimli when he cries at the tomb (as I get that they were close being his dad's cousin).
Dwalin, the first dwarf to arrive would be the last to leave.
He was then the scout and protector for the crew, meaning he'd be the first and last to leave. Ensuring all are safe.
Dwalin, at your service.
Balin's ultimate end is such a damn shame. He was one of the few dwarves to have more of a role in the narrative of The Hobbit , the fact that he was the one who truly befriended Bilbo, which of course the movies play up even more.
What happened in Moria gets more heartbreaking after you know Balin and the dwarves that died there from the Hobbit movies.
So true :'(
Oin gets eaten by the Watcher, this is so unnecessarily brutal, why the deaf dwarf 😭😭
@@martinlopez2816 didnt hear it coming
I like to imagine in the final battle in the war of the ring in front of Erebor, that they rolled Bombur down the mountain crushing the enemy.
all they needed to do was tell Bombur that the orcs ate all the pies, his rage would be uncontainable.
"and thus the game of bowling was invented"
@@The_JEB Nice!
Oh gosh that river scene.
Sure, the orcs were destroyed.
5:23 - "These seven dwarves."
Now that you've said it, I'm going to be incredibly disappointed if they don't end up in a small cottage and take care of a runaway princess.
Hopefully not one with a bunch of cats... nope, she stayed in the castle and got a mirror! XD
There may come a day when the lore-videos of men fail, when you forsake your fans and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day.
An hour of wolves and shattered shields when your subscriber-count comes crashing down, but it is not this day!
This day we watch!
By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you upload, Men of the West!
Efjay 3 nice speech😀
This is awesome
Thnx xD
Hahaha I think I'm going to put this at the beginning of my next video, if you don't mind! This is hilarious!
It would be an immense honour! :D
Dawlin was the closest thing to a beserker the lord of the rings have ever seen. He was a savage in battle and my favorite dwarf in the hobbit.
The berserker uruk hai?
Helm hammer hand
He was a really really tough dwarf, he was also pretty huge for a dwarf by the way xD
Last time I was this early the two trees still shined
JediSpartan 127 good one
There were trees and then lamps and then the sun and moon right? Or are he sun and the moon the lamps?
Elthr Alanir Unless I’m wrong ( which is very likely) the lamps were destroyed by Morgoth. The Sun and Moon are Maiar that were put in the sky after Fëanor’s group landed in Middle Earth
Gravel Pie So were there three sets of light sources throughout the ages or were there just two sets?
@@elric7415 The Lamps were first, then the two Trees, & then the Sun & Moon.
The opening lines were the saddest lines I read in the whole LOTR. Hard to believe that Dain would ever give permission to Balin and Company to re-enter Moria, but he did so reluctantly, as reported by Gloin at the last and greatest Council of the free races in Middle Earth. Dain must have surely informed Balin of Durin's Bane and Balin under the allure of the rings, foolishly ignored the warning to him and his followers doom.
Good one Yoystan, as always. My weekly fix of fantasy.
The Book version implies that Balin "listened too long to the whispers" about Moria and resolved to go and eventually persuaded Dain to let him. Since Balin was a relative of the royal line (and a lord in his own right) he would have had the claim and authority to do so.
I think i prefer the movie depiction of him as a wise and gentle councillor, and in line with this I suspect he volunteered to lead the expedition in order to keep the peace and prevent the real hot-heads who wanted to leave from causing problems that an outright refusal on Dain's part might have caused. In this depiction he would have been just as unwilling to go, but went anyway to keep his people safe. And unfortunately it still did not work and he was the first to fall. Which makes my idea even more tragic really.
The Balrog didn't kill the company of dwarves it was goblins of the misty of mountain
He went to Erebor while still a dragons lair didn’t he. No balls no blue chips!
Pretty much:
Everyone’s mostly dead
Gloin lives
Bombur is so fat he needs dwarves to carry him around
Well, that's how it works in life and how it's portrayed in the books. There are those legends who tragically fall chasing the revival of ancient glory, others whose legends only grew further by taking part in more important events and then passing away, and there are those who do great deeds and becomes legends and then pass away.
@@DragonSlayerCommentariesHQ And there are those who become Landwhales.
Bumbling Bureaucrat lol
Dwalin was a war chief and so it is not surprising that he continued in that role serving King Dain Ironfoot.
Dwalin was played by Graham McTavish, who also played the war chief Dougal in Outlander. Coincidence?
Watching this in remembrance of Sir Ian Holm. Going towards his next adventure to Valinor....😔
RIP Balin, Filli, Killi, Ori, Dwalin, Oin, and Gloin. Without your courage, kindness and loyalty, Bilbo and Thorin would've never have made it to Erebor and it would be lost to Smaug and Bolg. May Eru guide your souls to rest peacefully in the Undying Lands.
That dwalin part was cool. Mostly because of how he is portrayed in the films, it just makes it funny to hang on him being over 300 years old and telling some young dwarves about all his travels
They got a great memorable actor for Balin . Loved his acting . One of the nicest dwarves in the group . It didn't seem much when you watch Moria scene in the fellowship just the first time . But I don't care what people think about the hobbit trilogy . It was awesome . After watching The Hobbit movies then after the fellowship it made balins death even more sudden and sad when they realize he's not alive when they go into Moria . They made his lore awesome in the movies .
Yeah I love the Hobbit movies, just as much as I love the LOTR movies, alright! 👌
Ballen, Oin and Ori made me depressed after learning of their fate in Moria.
Dwalin was just too stubborn to die. :D
Balin was my favorite character :( Bombur as well. Both just pure.
Agree wholeheartedly about Balin. Bombur was just to silly and obese for words.
Dwalin was the man, I’m glad he got a long life
great explanations in the video! I've got 2 bones to pick:
- why Balin, of all dwarves, would want to go on such foolish quest to claim Moria? seeing he was the wisest of them and not swayed by riches, as portrayed in the hobbit when he tells Thorin that it wasn't necessary to reclaim Erebor.
- if the dwarves of Moria had been mining Mithril, how did they not make freaking mithril armor and survive the onslaught??
ok rant over.
Mitril is a very rare material
First one - Homecoming and maybe some power of lost Dwarwen ring can call tham to claim Moria. Second one - Mining is hard, but much easier than made all necessary equipment to forge it. But only my opinions
Balin lost his hope when Thorin died and didn't want to dwell in Erebor without him.
The only mountain in middle earth that had mithril was Erebor
Balin heard whispers that Moria was safe to return to (probably spread by Sauron's agents) and was excited to claim it. He had a strong bloc of support so Dain Ironfoot reluctantly let him go. All Dwarves ache to return to Khazad-dûm,even those that had never been there. Dain was wiser to ignore the whispers.
Mithril is found very deep in the mines, deeper than Balin and his company had ever gone. It is also very rare, and even rarer when found in large amounts.
Frodo's mail-shirt is one of the few mithril items made for the full body, and a very kingly gift from Thorin-implying that even the King didn't have mithril armor.
In fact until the end of Return of the King, the only known mithril apart from Frodo's coat is the mithril helmets of the Tower and Fountain Guards, as well as mithril woven into Aragorn's flag.
Bofur was my favorite in the Jackson hobbit movies. I'm glad he lived a long life.
Bofur you beauty!
Dwalin was the OG dwarf! Also I liked Bombur, that chubby dwarf was among the most adorable in the company xD
I've always wondered who wrote the book gandalf was reading, NOW IT ALL MAKES SENSE! they had to know someone was gonna come read that book, so they wrote everything they could before the orcs came in. *fun fact, that skeleton that was holding the book before gandalf picked it up, was actually Ori, pretty creepy huh*
That was so messed up how Balin, oín, orí and the rest of the dwarven groups would have met their demises though. Not only that they were attacked by the orcs that lived in Moria, but some of the dwarves (including oín) even lost their own lives from the watcher in the water.
The art in this video is amazing.
I watched this and brought up The Hobbit to my mom, who said she played Fili in a school production of the Hobbit.
That's dope
What school? I feel gypped
I am a woman, but because I am 6'0 tall, I got the pleasure of playing Gandalf. No jokes please! I was a very curvaceous model at that age...
How can girl play dwarf
@@elremproductions2802 it probably wasn't a huge speaking role. And it's not unheard of to have girls play men in stage productions. It happens all the time in adaptations of Peter Pan.
It always makes me so happy when I see a new video
You know, I did read somwhere that somtime after the quest for Erebor, Bombur got married and had 14 children.
This is by far one of the best videos on Tolkien's masterpiece that I've ever watched. The music, the narration, and the opted pictures were awesome.
Love your videos THANK you the Lord of the Ring and The Hobbit are my favorite movie series of all time!!!!!!!!!!!!❤
Zahra Mohseni For me too😁
try reading the books, and get ready for even more tears!
Wow, this time I actually get to see it before I go to bed :D
Thank you.
same
Hrafna-Flóki Vilgerðarson same here
Badass username...
Thank you.
Though I guess you mean JediSpartan lol
Great History of the First Group and their lives after the Hobbit.
YES!!! 🤗🤗🤗 FINALLY THE TOPIC THAT I WANTED TO SEE IN A WHILE!!!!!! Thank you Yoystan for making this topic come to life!!!!! I'm so grateful for your love and support to the hobbits story, that so was sweet of you!!!! And I hope that for those that wanted to see this vid will be thankful as well for it.
Great video..keep them coming
Have u learned nothing of the stubbornness of Dwarves :)
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such a pity yet he tried
I’m watching from literal middle earth (New Zealand)
Pope More like an outlying island where echoes of the 3rd age remained well into or past the 4th age. Our entire world of men is Middle Earth or Midgaard in the old tongue.
An amazing country. I just found out they are filming the Amazon LOTR in New Zealand 😚😚
I sailed there long ago, from Seattle. The news on the radio was all about something called hoggets. They were eaten by the millions by Saudis, so I hope it wasn't a synonym for hobbits.
I've been watching my 600lb life and you know what I've realized? Bombur is the real hero in this series.
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I really appreciate how u treat as if no one knew even the simple things such as thorn fili and kili dying its great gor new people and refresher gor people who hadnt read in awhile
Thanks for the video! I always enjoy learning more about the characters from Tolken's works.
Another wonderful video - thank you so much but it stirred a "what if" thought in me - what if Balin's trip to Moria wasn't the complete tragedy it was in the Lord of the Rings. From either Balin NOT dying or there being at least a few dwarves who had survived somewhere in the Halls - how would that have changed the story line?
I swear this guy would be a great DM
Even with council being against it I can understand Balin and Company a bit. What seems to be the best of my adventures behind me, battered of body but settled in my hall with wife and child, every breeze every distance sound brings reminders of the times of glory in my life and calls, however faintly, that all the glory might not yet be gone. Such an opportunity as the mines, sitting, calling, may have seemed near irresistible.
The dwarves and Bilbo in the Hobbit are my favorite story by Tolkien. So this video was special. Nice job.
In the book the dwarves collectively are just a moral lesson for kids but after the films fleshed them out, man, did those deaths hurt. They resonated as ‘real people’ to me. Who didn’t have at least one of those characters sitting across from them at Thanksgiving, you know?
Yet another excellent video, thank you sharing your findings here and yes this did answering a few questions I had about Thorin's Company so for that I thank you, I look forward to your next video eagerly, the Dwarven Rings of Power should be a most fascinating subject to look into. Once again a job well done.
God! This epilogue is, for the most part, a happy one (except for Balin's end. That Dwarf, above all the rest, did not deserve the ending he got). It just makes me want to cry listening to how all the Dwarves finished their lives long after the Battle of Five Armies depicted in the final Hobbit film. Brings tears to my eyes, in fact, because the story of these twelve Dwarves is really the story of your average Military Veteran in real life. Sure, we're all heroes in our own way... but many of us simply... fade to nothingness, and wind up forgotten in history. From that standpoint, I'm sure JRR Tolkien, with personal experience, knew exactly how that emptiness felt.
I will watch this video again on Veterans' Day. Because it hits me in just that exact spot in my heart...
This video about the dwarven rings will be great, I have been waiting that for ages(I just hadn't noticed yet)
Nice video about the people of middle Earth who works under the shining Ray of Erebor
To the king
Long live the king
What if Fram was killed by Scatha?
What if Smaug survived the events of the Hobbit?
What if Elrod took the Ring?
What if Tar-Miriel had become queen of Numenor instead of Ar-Farazon?
What if king Earnur was not killed by the witch-King?
What if Saruman was not a traitor?
What if Smaug took the Ring?
What if Durin's Bane took the Ring?
What if Glaurung killed Turin?
What if the battle of Un-numbered tears never took place?
(sorry for my bad spelling)
Then everything would have been fucked, for the good guys at least. For me and my lords Morgoth and Sauron, it would have been great.
Middle Earth would’ve been screwed if either Smaug or Durins Bane took the ring as they likely would’ve joined Sauron. I always wondered why sauron didn’t try to get Durins Bane as an ally since he did have a higher ranking while both were serving morgoth
Jake Alter
Dwarves are very difficult to corrupt, even for Sauron. Sometimes it's good to be incredibly narrow and determined
Éfar Isti Durins bane isn’t a dwarf, it’s the balrog that Gandalf faced. It got that name by killing Durin the 6th and forcing the dwarves to flee Moria over 1,000 years before the events of the lord of the rings
Jake Alter
oh right, sorry my mistake I just misinterpreted "Bane" ... I did not even interpret it at all. -_-.
But in this case, I think they must already be allies, Sauron was and remains the lieutenant of Morgoth and after his disappearance, the most powerful evil being that exists so I think the allegiance of the Balrog in Sauron goes from itself.
They killed off Bombur in the animated adaptation of The Hobbit. Hang on a minute, I heard of deviating from the book, but that's quite the deviation. Funny thing, that cartoon was my introduction to the universe
My God Dude!! That '70's cartoon version(what of it they completed) was GOLD!!!
I think only 6 Dwarves survive in the cartoon
Loved your videos , the way you tell the story and the beautiful art
Making "zapping" and searching for other kind of tales on TH-cam, I found this. Well, let me say I put it in my favourite folder, waiting for a large moment to listen and see it again. Until now I think this is very interesting and very well done. Truly Congrats. From Italy.
I keep ending up back here watching this vid! I love the Dwarves!
bombur is legend
Legendarily obese! Lol
nice job to this channel, LOTR lore is a fav of mine, but one lacks time to go into lots of studies and these videos tie it up into nice little packages and no need to reef through thousands of pages (although that's also fun, too, sometimes, like when traveling when you have time to pour over a tome) to gather some great LOTR info
As foolish as it seems for them to try and reclaim Moria, it makes sense why they did. They just got done reclaiming Erebor where a dragon had just got killed and they saw victory in the Battle of the Five Armies. They must've felt unstoppable after that.
Copyrights for anything Tolkien such as the Silmarillion Reports cant be sold for 70 years after his death making 2043 the first year they can make anything related. That makes me sad, specially since The Hobbit is one of my all time favorite book and Movie series. Great Job on the explanation for what happend to the company! Thanks
Even though this Sunday I'm without my pipe and farthing weed, impersonating Gandalf as best as I may; seeing an upload never ceases to brighten the first day of the week and send me to bed smiling. Keep up the incredible work we all love it.
Idk why, but this video choked me up.. as always great job
Thank you for doing this video! I love it.
This is why I joined this channel for the quality content
Balin definitely deserved moria
Where he was brutally murdered and his final restingplace destroyed and pillaged.....
@@easygrin1127 and his tomb, later on crushed and desecrated by a cave troll during the journey of the Fellowship.
Do you mean he deserved his fate there? Or that he deserved to reclaim it successfully?
I love that you use LOTRO pictures too!
Yep. If Balin and his group had just waited, they could have reclaimed Moiria after the War of the ring cause the Balrog was destroyed by Gandalf and the only ones left were those pesky orcs.
The Erebor supplement of the One Ring roleplay game gives some good flavour for what some of the more obscure Dwarves got up to between Hobbit and Lord of the Rings
Another great Monday morning drive thanks to you.Awesome episode
Marvellous update of our favourite Dwarves
Always very sad to see the losses in Moria; but better news for the Erebor crew
Very cool when Gimli introduced as the son of Gloin in LOTR
I truly enjoyed this video! Kudos! The illustrations and music demonstrates your love and dedication to Tolkien's Legendarium.
Bluefax is doing " the quest of Erebor " .
If you haven't heard he has done the most excellent reading of the hobbit, it's magnificent and must be listened to
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I'm glad that you made this... but that doesn't mean that I'm not sad now. RIP Balin
Love your vids keeps my mood up everytime ! continue the great work
Bombur giving moral support? nah, they'd probably use him like a giant boulder to crush swathes of enemies with
In the time Balin and his company held the 21st hall of Moria, they also held (for a short year or two), the 1st hall located at the eastern edge facing Lothlorien which included the region where the still intact bridge of khazad dum was. If Balin might have had more time more dwarves may have come to support him. This is speculation on my part of course but it is safe to assume given more time Moria could have been filled with dwarven soldiers. Eventually they would have been faced with the balroq themselves and likely had to abandon the quest anyway.
The Dwarves were mostly skeptical about Balin's recolonization and likely did not want to join him there. Dain himself warned Thror that another power other than the Dwarves would have to free Khazad-dum. Gimli says the messages came and went from Moria for a while but after they stopped no Dwarf wanted to investigate.
Your videos are as informative as they are entertaining. Always enjoyable. Thank You!
I know this is not cannon but I asked Graham McTavish (The actor who played Dwalin; in case anyone was wonder his role, and didn't want to look him up ;) ) what he thought his version of Dwalin did after Thorin had passed and Bilbo had left. He answered that; the way he played him, Dwalin would most likely leave the lonely mountain and become a 'lone wolf' after the loss of his king, Thorin. It was heart breaking to think but it was also interesting to see what the actors and writers made of these characters. Giving them more personality in the movies. I just wish more of that was explored in the movies than other added things. Again I know this is not cannon. I just wanted to see what he thought the version of the character he played would do. I would love to know the answers by the other Dwarves that were played.
4 hours later and still no dislikes! Such great content
My week has started great with this upload. Awesome video as always
That's why I have respect for thorin and his people they fought valiantly may your spirits live on in the Halls of the Kings of kazadum all hail the victorious dead
You didn’t say ‘Yoistan here’ and now I can’t sleep and may never again. At least... until you fix this....
I command you to hold your oath!
Dwarves literally don't get sick except for injuries, most injuries that don't kill them outright heal, their only widespread medical problem is obesity, and obesity doesn't even make them sick like it does most humans. This weird little factoid never ceases to amaze me. Dwarves are basically indestructible.
I know it's not that big a deal, but it's my 'curse' to notice things like this ... on the map at 3:00 (not sure where the map comes from, although it does look a lot like one I bought from a bookstore in my college town years ago) - to the right of the red circle, Dimrill Dale is misspelled as Drimrill Dale. Like I said, no big deal, but I can never not say anything about stuff like that. It doesn't detract though from your video, which is very interesting, I must say - and since odds are you didn't make the map, I shouldn't really care anyway. Thumbs up for the video and its excellent content!
Of course Bombur took part in the Battle of The Dale, he's no chicken! They got some boys to roll him up a hill and push him back down it the whole time!
At the end of Battle of the five armies, it should have been, Balin, showing up at, Bilbo's door. That would have been a much more heart warming ending.
So when in lotr the fellowship enter that room, did Gandalf in the books comment on the fact he knew the guy who wrote the last journey etc? Fascinating
I'm not in Middle-Earth my friend, I'm chilling in Valinor.
*Wish you were here*
Dude I love your channel I’m happy I found it dude I hope you can do this channel for many more years man all the stories of middle earth stories are my favorite Mann keep it up
Hello Yoystan. Many thanks for your comprehensive videos. You do indeed have much respect for JRR Tolkien. Having lived in NZ for many years I am interested to know what you thought of the Peter Jackson LOTR films? Best regards from Michelle
What I find hilarious is that the version of the Hobbit with the highest death count is the animated version! No less than 7 of the Dwarves die in that version, including Bombur!
Great video. I didn't know Balin was in Moria for 5 years err he fell. I cried at the death of Thorin in the hobbit. Also, never read about the age of Gandalf. You out did yourself once again. Can't wait until next video.
Gandalf is Maia so he is probably old as the whole wolrd.
Great video Yoystan.
in fellowship of the ring in the scene, where the fellowship fight those orcs in balins burial chamber. gandalf picks up the book and reads it, the fallen dwarf that held the book was ori? wow!!! that's blown my mind!!!
"I have walked the earth for 300 lives of man" - Gandalf 300x50=15000, easily. But who really knows, google search says he was only in middle earth for 2000ish years. love the vids man
That is not an actual measurement, just an indication of how old he is compared to others
Wish there was movies on the dwarves their story line from what we know is so awesome.
Excellent work. Great job, I appreciate you! Be well.
If Gandalf was 11,000 years old, where was he during the battle in Mordor when Isildur defeated Sauron?
Still in Valinor. The Istari (wizards) weren't sent to Middle-Earth until after that battle.
@@drewjohnson8349 thanks👍. This raises another question: what were they doing in Valinor? I mean they could of been more valuable fighting Sauron alongside Elrond and Isildur no?
@@skywarp2414 I think they follow a strict plan, humans are the only creations with a free destiny. Eru only intervened twice during the whole timeline, i'm guessing he wants the world to grow on it's own. Thus sending the istari as guides.
@@Gnossiene369 A good guess that makes sense. So maybe when the higher powers realized Sauron was more powerful than expected even after defeat (under estimated his One ring ) , they sent the wizards from Valinor to help.
Skywarp And unless I’m wrong, I believe the Istari were diminished in terms of power when they arrived in Middle-Earth. Which would explain why they get their asses kicked so easily.
Thank you for these! I always look forward to them!
They did a very good job on the LOTR realm.. Peter Jackson believe it not is an amazing nerd amongst us.
Can you PLEASE do a video on Huan the hound of vailnor! He is by far my favourite of all Tolkiens characters!!! P. S. Love your work
Can you please do one about Thiranuil. I always wonder what happened to him after the hobbit.