Please make a video about this but against Kerrigan in other forms, like primal Kerrigan and normal Kerrigan (after being rescued and before becoming the primal form).
For everyone confused about the lack of damage, Kerrigan has a passive that reduces all attacks to 6. That's why the banshees were more effective - they fire in volleys.
Also why one of the best way to get rid of her during campaign is sending a bunch of marine. With micro, she can't kill many with her cloud, her oneshot ability is kinda useless, and they get their normal dps.
The fact that a 1 manned turbine operated light attack craft is more effective against Kerrigan than one of the most powerful capital ships in the Terran arsenal is mind boggling.
Rate of fire to get over her passive defense that reduces overall damage taken. Why the marines also got pretty close to despite the fight being so quick.
Further leads me to appreciating the Giantgrantgames channel doing wings of liberty, on hard, deathless, being able to fend kerrigan off over and over without losing a single unit is damn impressive.
@@Doost311 in terms of HP removed, yes, but the damage output not being gone instantly also must be considered, so it's not a simple thing by any means.
And they would have won every one one of those fights by being micro'd out of razor swarm. These fights don't take micro into account. That's the point.
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I knew the banshees would win because a squadron of dusks wings with regular banshee support is exactly how I usually kill get in All In lol. Also loved the gauntlet of devil dogs, it reminded me of the Avengers trying to rip the gauntlet off Thanos arm. Lots of power and coordination, but Kerrigan is inevitable
Remember WoL Immortals? They had a passive called "Hardened Shield", it reduced all shield damage to a maximum of 10 per attack. Why am I telling you this? Well, Kerrigan has a hidden "Hardened Shield" but instead of reducing the incoming damage to a maximum of 10, it reduces it to 6. On top of that all spell damage is reduced by 75% and since she does not have a shield then the hidden stat applies to her normal health. What does it all mean? The easiest way to kill Kerrigan is low damage, high attack speed units.
If i remember correctly, on brutal diff damage against Kerrigan is capped at some ridiculously low number (6 or so), that's why tanks are not a good counter to her
WoL Kerrigan has two hidden passives. The first is a hardened shell effect, that puts a hard cap on maximum damage taken from attacks. The second is a spellshield that halves incoming spell damage. Large artillery becomes worthless against her, yamato canons and snipe deal half damage. That's why on all-in, infantry is the way to go. Well she also has razor swarm but you get my meaning
@@Tom_K Yup that was my strategy. I spammed her with legions of Vulture bikes. Also she wasted her Rift power killing one or two individual bikes, instead of using Razor Swarm.
Now i’m even more impressed by GiantGrantGames Mercs only run, no mods, for as many missions as possible he killed of the starting units. After that only hired guns
I am now imagining a scenario where Kerrigan is breaking the servos of the Spartans and Slam Dunking punches on the Gorgon Battlecruisers. with a random Online Cheater on board.
She has a hardened shield type ability hidden in her stats. I believe she drops all damage taken to a max of 6 and spells reduced by 75%. Rapid fire or multi-hit are the only ways to effectively damage her but, of course, razor swarm.
Yeah, as the others pointed out, she nearly takes no damage. That's why rapid fire snipe is so strong against her, as it's a lot of shots at the same time which effectivly bypasses that protection.
@@Skagwatcher i thought the defenses were a cap of 12 or 1/2 spell damage, but the point remains. Banshees give up less damage than they otherwise would if they had one attack worth 24
Damn, that Banshee death squad tactic (with siege tanks and planetary fortresses) really was the best strategy in that final mission of Wings of Liberty.
@@SonorianBnS It does matter because the lower damage, faster attacking unsieged tanks would deal more damage because the damage cap would be greatly reduced. The damage cap doesn't effect dps, it effects damage per attack.
@@agustinmelar5496 The stun will probably work on her, even if the spell will deal 75% less damage and so Primal Kerrigan will simply kill her and Hots Kerrigan is also tankier than WOL Kerrigan.
@@durshurrikun150 also primal get shields as she deals damage, so each time she cast the jump it should be 300x0.25 = 75 dmg and shields, on top of her regular attacks doing 10 dmg whit a very high attack speed, that last part depends on the version, and if it is coop, on the lvl 15 bonuses, as she can even improve her spell damage and at least make them do 50% more dmg, im not sure if it goes up to a 100% extra dmg
7/8. Missed the Hel's Angels actually winning. Some matches are too close for comfort that I had to guess. I saw the Hammers and I thought "they wouldn't have the attack speed to take Kerrigan down" but then they stimmed 😂
How a squadron of starships, fking battle cruisers cant kill her, but a small group of Marines with rifles can just reminds me of the ridiculousness of this game.
Jackson's revenge squadrons are old-fashioned ships in Battle Cruiser, but they are made up of powerful modifications, and Carrigan's ability to destroy all five Jackson squadrons means that the Terran battleship is virtually useless.
Yea. As I recall, that version has a damage cap per hit of I think 12? So banshees lose next to no damage against her. Where as a siege tank struggles to injure. Exception where she take 1/2 spell damage, as opposed to a cap. Hence why ghost snipe spam is good vs her
Sort of. Dusk Wings are a LOT less vulnerable to razor swarm bc of their increased HP, also when you control a big cloud of banshees they tend to clump up so RS is bad news. But yes if you can bait out the first couple RS banshees absolutely destroy her very quickly. I think mass banshee is one of the best picks for ground All In bc they can easily keep snipping the nydus too
@@andre-8420 mass marine siege tank is the best comp. Dont need to take out nydus if you just vapourize anything that comes out. That and Marines are the best Kerri counter if you bait razorswarm
@@TheMuffinman191 Honestly, against kerrigan, ghosts are really great, because of rapidfire snipes, which guarantess a super fast kill. Otherwise banshees are pretty useful to lighten the load on your defenses at home, though overbuilding them probably isn't the best idea.
@@andre-8420 I use banshees vs the nydus, tanks to hold the line behind Planetary Fortresses, then have a set of ghosts up by the artifact to spam snipe at kerrigan. In theory banshees can be good vs kerrigan too, but I often lose quite a few of them to her, and they are my only good answer for the nydus worms, so I protect them a bit more. Ghosts can drop to Razor Swarm too, but if you have a building cluster draw it, they're safe, at least for the next few seconds
How did you chose that firebats number? So the worst of the merc units you place 16 and the good one after it, Goliath you place 15. It wouldn't be a problem if even those 16 pathetics dealt OK dmg to her. But they didn't even pass 50%. Da hell was that?
In fairness, there were only 16 devil dogs... the she faced off against the same number of siege breakers. I don't know why it wasn't at least 22 devildogs like there were 22 hammer securities
This version of Kerringan is OP. If the Co-op got a prestige for her with this skillset it will be super OP. Not as mobile but one shot Hybrids? Hell yeah.
@@OrionoftheStar perhaps that's the reason why Dusk Wings and Hel's Angel defeated her, because of their rapid fire cause also they do more than 6 damage
I wonder what's on those Marines' head. Their target managed to single handedly destroy several Battlecruisers by itself. And yet they still dared to challenge them with just 25 of them...
62.5, the cost is rounded to integers. Mercenaries are a Wings of Liberty campaign features and they are hired in squads of various sizes. A Spartan Company squad has two goliaths and costs 125 gas.
I recently replayed HOTS and it was so cringy the way Kerrigan's lines always come off as trying to project calm, cool, strong, independent woman (with the exception of 1 or 2 cinematics), when the storyline suggests that she should be heartbroken, furious, miserable, depressed, since she goes most of the game thinking the Jim is dead. The disconnect between the story/character development and the voice acting was disturbing.
@@xitaris5981 that doesn't even sound like "strong" or "calm", it sounds like a mere draft of voicing, like they gave actress 5 minutes to read plain text on record and stopped at that.
Music is the Volskaya soundtrack from Heroes of the Storm
try the siege breakers in tank mode see if that makes a difference?
Thanks, pal, being wondering about that for a long time.
Děhaka pls)
Same matchups but co-op Kerrigan please :D
Please make a video about this but against Kerrigan in other forms, like primal Kerrigan and normal Kerrigan (after being rescued and before becoming the primal form).
For everyone confused about the lack of damage, Kerrigan has a passive that reduces all attacks to 6. That's why the banshees were more effective - they fire in volleys.
oh glad u cleared that up, I was confused why the tanks werent as strong against her
Also why one of the best way to get rid of her during campaign is sending a bunch of marine. With micro, she can't kill many with her cloud, her oneshot ability is kinda useless, and they get their normal dps.
Tanks would have been better unsigned, faster fire rate I believe.
ah ok thanks, yeah merc tanks have 100+ single target dmg, she would have needed 100k life to win like that otherwise
@@garroshhellscream594 Yeah. Her Implosion Instakill works only on Mechanical Targets.
Can we take a moment to appreciate Kerrigan saying "CAT got your tongue?" to the Devil DOGS?
She not only eviscerated them, she also eviscerated their ego
wrrg
wrrr
@iytdominotik"Im in a world of hurt!"
The fact that a 1 manned turbine operated light attack craft is more effective against Kerrigan than one of the most powerful capital ships in the Terran arsenal is mind boggling.
She hadn’t had her coffee yet
Tactical advantage. Bigger isn't always better.
That's why Seal Team Six exists.
There's also more of the Dusk Wings than BCs
Blame implosion
Rate of fire to get over her passive defense that reduces overall damage taken. Why the marines also got pretty close to despite the fight being so quick.
Further leads me to appreciating the Giantgrantgames channel doing wings of liberty, on hard, deathless, being able to fend kerrigan off over and over without losing a single unit is damn impressive.
he just played mercs only, with only a few missions where he had to use the starting units for a bit
@@corranhuss i know, i try to watch most/all his videos
@@corranhuss I wonder if this video was done because of that final slog
@@Ontinara probably inspired at least, great non the less
3:08
-Careful what you ask for!
-...victory.
No, no, they have a point.
Kerrigan would had won every fight (expect battlecruisers) if she casted razor swarms instead of implosion on the groups of small units.
Not really merc units have 200-300hp, 150damage over time not enough
@@stc2828 even if not a one shot it provides more value when placed properly on non kiting units
@@Doost311 in terms of HP removed, yes, but the damage output not being gone instantly also must be considered, so it's not a simple thing by any means.
@@stc2828 She still does more damage overall with razor swarm. It also lets her oneshot the surviving units.
And they would have won every one one of those fights by being micro'd out of razor swarm. These fights don't take micro into account. That's the point.
If Grant plays, it's apparently enough with just two bunkers of mercenary marines to take down Kerrigan (and a bunch of sacrificial SCVs)
1:22 That's quite the striking visual. Kerrigan fell down in a Ring of Fire!
"Because you're mine, I walk the line..."
I fell into a burning ring of fire
I went down, down, down
And the flames went higher:)
Kerrigan just casually bathing herself in fire with the devil dogs
"Be careful what you ask fo-"
"Victory"
That is just, chef kiss.
I wonder how unsieged siege breakers would have fared with their higher attack speed.
Probably not much better, she would have likely been able to use Razor Swarm on them if they clumped up, which mobility would allow
Probably not much better, she would have likely been able to use Razor Swarm on them if they clumped up, which mobility would allow
"Don't get in my way!" -Kerrigan to other Kerrigan
200 3/3 siege tanks vs Dehaka please.
I think dehaka would die to 100 honestly, less if his fire breath doesn’t kill them instantly.
also 75 Siegebreakers vs Dehaka
Thank you for advising how to beat Kerrigan in the last mission of the WOL campaign))
Kerri seems to do worse in the matchups where she uses both razor swarm and implosion, cuz she implodes units already under the swarm.
Kerrigan comes with two hidden passives, a hardened shell effect and a half spell damage buff. That's why siege tanks are worthless against her.
7/8 for me 😬 Thought the goliaths would take her down!
@Tya, just wanted to send some love & appreciation your way! ❤️ Massive thanks for posting these videos so diligently. They've become a comforting part of my daily routine and I always look forward to seeing your vids before bed.
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I knew the banshees would win because a squadron of dusks wings with regular banshee support is exactly how I usually kill get in All In lol.
Also loved the gauntlet of devil dogs, it reminded me of the Avengers trying to rip the gauntlet off Thanos arm. Lots of power and coordination, but Kerrigan is inevitable
How does she beat the Siege Breakers but lose to the Hel’s angels?
I'm presuming it's a damage penalty done to small units or something
Remember WoL Immortals? They had a passive called "Hardened Shield", it reduced all shield damage to a maximum of 10 per attack.
Why am I telling you this? Well, Kerrigan has a hidden "Hardened Shield" but instead of reducing the incoming damage to a maximum of 10, it reduces it to 6. On top of that all spell damage is reduced by 75% and since she does not have a shield then the hidden stat applies to her normal health.
What does it all mean? The easiest way to kill Kerrigan is low damage, high attack speed units.
If i remember correctly, on brutal diff damage against Kerrigan is capped at some ridiculously low number (6 or so), that's why tanks are not a good counter to her
WoL Kerrigan has two hidden passives. The first is a hardened shell effect, that puts a hard cap on maximum damage taken from attacks. The second is a spellshield that halves incoming spell damage. Large artillery becomes worthless against her, yamato canons and snipe deal half damage. That's why on all-in, infantry is the way to go. Well she also has razor swarm but you get my meaning
@@Tom_K Yup that was my strategy. I spammed her with legions of Vulture bikes. Also she wasted her Rift power killing one or two individual bikes, instead of using Razor Swarm.
7/8, didn't think Vikings had it in them.
Almost would have been 6/8 but then I remembered that WoL Kerrigan has the old immortal passive lol.
@Dominotik Ivan Tulovskiy Yep. She takes a maximum of 6 damage per attack. Spell damage is also reduced by 75%.
6/8 It was close with the Goliaths and I was expecting more from the Siege tanks
GiantGrantGames is going to have a fun time on All In.
Dehaka vs hybrids would be a good show to see.
I really appreciate that's its WOL Kerrigan
I was rooting so hard for those Spartan Company boys, it would have been revenge for what she did to the rest of the UED fleet.
Now i’m even more impressed by GiantGrantGames Mercs only run, no mods, for as many missions as possible he killed of the starting units. After that only hired guns
Kerrigan: easily destroyed 2BC in seconds
Also Kerigan loses to 50 merc marines:|
I think Siege Breaker in unsiege mode will deal more damage to Kerri.
0:46 I had no idea that WoL Kerrigan had an Age of Empires shoutout!
I am now imagining a scenario where Kerrigan is breaking the servos of the Spartans and Slam Dunking punches on the Gorgon Battlecruisers. with a random Online Cheater on board.
Wait what? How can siege breakers not do It??
WOL kerrigan has a max-damage-taken-per-hit type cap.
She has a hardened shield type ability hidden in her stats. I believe she drops all damage taken to a max of 6 and spells reduced by 75%. Rapid fire or multi-hit are the only ways to effectively damage her but, of course, razor swarm.
Yeah, as the others pointed out, she nearly takes no damage. That's why rapid fire snipe is so strong against her, as it's a lot of shots at the same time which effectivly bypasses that protection.
Oooh, didn't know that. Ty guys
@@Skagwatcher i thought the defenses were a cap of 12 or 1/2 spell damage, but the point remains. Banshees give up less damage than they otherwise would if they had one attack worth 24
4:06 Kerrigan's been watchin Commando it seems
Now do mensk's royal guards aswell, I would be good to see how the match up would play out
Great 80s movie quote there at the end. "I like you, and that's why I'm going to kill you last." Arnold Schwarzenegger says that in Commando.
what about unsiegsed siegebrakers?
don't they fire faster when unsieged?
would have been interesting
6/8.
I didn't realize Siege Breakers were so weak against her.
Damn, that Banshee death squad tactic (with siege tanks and planetary fortresses) really was the best strategy in that final mission of Wings of Liberty.
The absolute easiest is to use mass mind control for zerg flying units
Uniege tanks and 1 taget dps would be higher, isn't it?
siege breakers have the same dps sieged and unsieged iirc (also it wouldn't matter, kerri has a damage cap)
@@SonorianBnS It does matter because the lower damage, faster attacking unsieged tanks would deal more damage because the damage cap would be greatly reduced.
The damage cap doesn't effect dps, it effects damage per attack.
I wonder how Coop/HOTS Kerrigan vs Queen of Blades Kerrigan would go
ez win for hots kerrigan
coop/hots win because of her single target spell doing around 300 dgm, meanwhile queen of blades only has razor swarm or basic attacks
Hots Kerrigan wins for sure. Her abilities are better
@@agustinmelar5496 The stun will probably work on her, even if the spell will deal 75% less damage and so Primal Kerrigan will simply kill her and Hots Kerrigan is also tankier than WOL Kerrigan.
@@durshurrikun150 also primal get shields as she deals damage, so each time she cast the jump it should be 300x0.25 = 75 dmg and shields, on top of her regular attacks doing 10 dmg whit a very high attack speed, that last part depends on the version, and if it is coop, on the lvl 15 bonuses, as she can even improve her spell damage and at least make them do 50% more dmg, im not sure if it goes up to a 100% extra dmg
That ending quote made me feel some kind of way
7/8. Missed the Hel's Angels actually winning. Some matches are too close for comfort that I had to guess.
I saw the Hammers and I thought "they wouldn't have the attack speed to take Kerrigan down" but then they stimmed 😂
How a squadron of starships, fking battle cruisers cant kill her, but a small group of Marines with rifles can just reminds me of the ridiculousness of this game.
Dang, 7/8. I knew that banshees would take the W but didn't expect vikings to pull off a victory.
Could you please make a video of Dehaka against everyone?
7/8, thought Siege Breakers would have her. Probably would in tank form.
Jackson's revenge squadrons are old-fashioned ships in Battle Cruiser, but they are made up of powerful modifications, and Carrigan's ability to destroy all five Jackson squadrons means that the Terran battleship is virtually useless.
2:15 Spartans Never Die.
They Only Go MIA
so banshees are actually really good against kerrigan
Yea. As I recall, that version has a damage cap per hit of I think 12? So banshees lose next to no damage against her. Where as a siege tank struggles to injure. Exception where she take 1/2 spell damage, as opposed to a cap. Hence why ghost snipe spam is good vs her
Sort of. Dusk Wings are a LOT less vulnerable to razor swarm bc of their increased HP, also when you control a big cloud of banshees they tend to clump up so RS is bad news.
But yes if you can bait out the first couple RS banshees absolutely destroy her very quickly. I think mass banshee is one of the best picks for ground All In bc they can easily keep snipping the nydus too
@@andre-8420 mass marine siege tank is the best comp. Dont need to take out nydus if you just vapourize anything that comes out. That and Marines are the best Kerri counter if you bait razorswarm
@@TheMuffinman191 Honestly, against kerrigan, ghosts are really great, because of rapidfire snipes, which guarantess a super fast kill. Otherwise banshees are pretty useful to lighten the load on your defenses at home, though overbuilding them probably isn't the best idea.
@@andre-8420 I use banshees vs the nydus, tanks to hold the line behind Planetary Fortresses, then have a set of ghosts up by the artifact to spam snipe at kerrigan. In theory banshees can be good vs kerrigan too, but I often lose quite a few of them to her, and they are my only good answer for the nydus worms, so I protect them a bit more. Ghosts can drop to Razor Swarm too, but if you have a building cluster draw it, they're safe, at least for the next few seconds
Whoa! Okay, I expected the seige breakers, especially in seige mode, to win!
How did you chose that firebats number? So the worst of the merc units you place 16 and the good one after it, Goliath you place 15.
It wouldn't be a problem if even those 16 pathetics dealt OK dmg to her. But they didn't even pass 50%. Da hell was that?
i wish we lived in the reality where devil dogs could have won that
In fairness, there were only 16 devil dogs... the she faced off against the same number of siege breakers. I don't know why it wasn't at least 22 devildogs like there were 22 hammer securities
On the subject of hardened shields. What was blizzard smoking when they gave that ability to pre lotv immortals
How about the brrod lords mecenery that I used im All In mission 😊?
I smell that Dehaka video coming
Really thought the Hammer Securities would get her. Maybe if they moved out of the way of the RazorSwarm they might have gotten there.
I saluted when the firebats came up.
knew that probius wouldn' do it, send probius to every unit
One example of a time where the unsieged tanks would actually be more effective. Faster rate of fire.
Now what if those siege breakers were unsieged?
Win most likely
You should make youtube polls on who’d we think would win
01:23 this Kerrigan is on fire!
Siege tanks where lacking piercing ammo upgrade. Vikings and Banshees did it pretty well.
Super video ;)
Why the Merc marine and marauder have stim tho
They don't have that in WOL
Don't tanks have better single target DPS when unsieged?
I wonder if the Siege Breakers would win in their normal mode.
Probably yes
I like Kerrigan WOL. Good video!
What's the BGM here?
This version of Kerringan is OP.
If the Co-op got a prestige for her with this skillset it will be super OP. Not as mobile but one shot Hybrids? Hell yeah.
Implosion only works on mechanical targets.
@@shadowarchon7964 Damn shame. Well then she can one shot the Train then 😅
Should try the battles with Xel'Naga Kerrigan, see how powerful that character can be against some line-ups
How much damage do the Siege breakers ? I thought they can defeat because they supposly do more damage than siege tanks
they deal 6 damage to kerrigan.
Kerrigan has a cap to how much damage any single attack can do to her. Rapid fire is more effective than single powerful attacks.
@@OrionoftheStar perhaps that's the reason why Dusk Wings and Hel's Angel defeated her, because of their rapid fire cause also they do more than 6 damage
Vikings got me. Except them, guessed every other outcome correctly.
does kerrigan have some kind of dmg block? siege breakers have 100+ single target dmg, theres no way she survives that
Of course! All damage, dealt to Kerrigan, is down to 6.
А у танков не было грейда на +40 урона в основную цель? Тогда почему у морпехов был стим? А главное почему он был у мародеров?...
WoL Kerrigan have death animation?
i misses having firebat hero or probius in heroes of the storm
difference between heart of the swarm and heroes of the storm are all spell with hots
does Kerrigan get hardened shell or something? Those siege tanks hardly touched her.
She does
Yes
Wanna see this done again with murder Kerrigan build from HotS
I feel like the seige breakers stood a decent chance unsieged
Man, I gotta find the mod that makes dead bodies fly across the map XD
esto lo demuestra, las bansheess estan rotas
I wonder what's on those Marines' head. Their target managed to single handedly destroy several Battlecruisers by itself. And yet they still dared to challenge them with just 25 of them...
GGG tribute?
Should’ve put siege tanks in unsiege mode for bonus dps
I'm surprised the Jacksons did so well!
Grant should've landed his Hel's Angels and used them Dusk Wings eh?
i found the reason about purifier warden vs stukov apocalisk
Kerrigan Vs Dehaka???
Honestly, Kerrigan would have probably won the two she lost if she'd gone for double razor swarm instead of the one-hit kill.
Ok now I now know this not same Kerrigan you use so many different versions of of her.
Primal Kerrigan vs infested Kerrigan
Specter vs ghost
Hyperion vs mercs
please🙏
Kerrigan is so mean sounding... kinda is infesting me... Need more of that tone.... for sure.
15 Spartans Company costs 937 vespene. So 1 cost 62.4(6) vespene?
62.5, the cost is rounded to integers. Mercenaries are a Wings of Liberty campaign features and they are hired in squads of various sizes. A Spartan Company squad has two goliaths and costs 125 gas.
Hel's angels have a higher DPS than Siege Breakers?!
Thought for sure the merc marauders would win.
Looks like Yuriko Omega from Red alert 3
WoL kerrigan video 👍🏻
WoL voicing was so much better.
I recently replayed HOTS and it was so cringy the way Kerrigan's lines always come off as trying to project calm, cool, strong, independent woman (with the exception of 1 or 2 cinematics), when the storyline suggests that she should be heartbroken, furious, miserable, depressed, since she goes most of the game thinking the Jim is dead. The disconnect between the story/character development and the voice acting was disturbing.
@@xitaris5981 that doesn't even sound like "strong" or "calm", it sounds like a mere draft of voicing, like they gave actress 5 minutes to read plain text on record and stopped at that.