This is the greatest JToH video ever to exist. We need more KToH/JToH history videos and i think you could be the perfect person to make those, Esha. Nice job
A lot of it might be biased information, I may not be a part of the community anymore (at least I hope I am not affiliated with it) I still watch from the shadows. I really don't recommend this.
KToH/JToH History is Obbying history. I had an idea similar to esha's that have been in the works rn covering many aspects of obbying jtoh and not. But please don't think that JToH/KToH isn't in some way Obbying History, because it is lol.
@@immortalkeiji4451 There are many, trust me lol. Obbying extends way beyond just JToH, people consider Tower of Hell to be training wheels compared to JToH. But most relative towers in JToH are training wheels compared to the far reaches and extensions of obbying that people have been through, beaten, and conquered. Trust me haha, if you'd like me to name a few obbyists that doesn't play JToH I can if you want.
I didn't know I wanted JToH history videos. But now I do know. This was a very informative video, and I definitely think you should make more of these, whether they are based on flaws or not.
also just a note: ToGaH wasn't the only tower added the ring 5 automatically, every tower was and.. in the video it's stated that downplaying towers by EOs isn't good, however the 2nd solution is to remove towers from the pool of towers you can complete for EO
Subscribed and liked. Great video. Solution 3 and 4 are probably the best if you ask me. Beat a catasthrophic tower with FULL video proof without any cheats or cheese. Or just delete the role. (I’m pretty sure Elite Obbyist has been deleted by now, so yeah, cool.)
This brought flashbacks, I remember being in server where people would ask are you an EO... tbh the community got toxic after this and I am glad it was removed, rip EO, you will not be missed.
i think that making eo requirments extreme+ is not a good idea. most peoples arguments for making it extreme+ is because there are too many eos, but eo was never supposed to be rare. eo is for people who are good at obbies
Blockerman666 and Friendly Fart are the only EOs according to solution 3 because they are the only ones who beat Cata+ without cheesing, using items, or clipping out of GBJ
Good video, very informative and structered well to hopefully not cause that many flamewars and the logic you give is justified very nicely. I'm no video reviewer or anything but keep up the good work man.
what if we make the elite obbyist role only for catastrophic towers and terrifying towers and below give you a different role like good obbyist or something idk
around a year ago, I wanted the role, so I grinded ToDC.. I ended up failing (and I'm actually serious) the last floor around 40 times total in the span of 3 weeks .. i never ended up completing todc and never got the role and eventually just stopped doing roblox obbying because I just got bored with it .. and because a few months afterwards the new todc was added so I just lost all motivation. stupid 0.1 stud.
Honestly it is true, but I do keep the rank in mind for people that are tier 13-14 (I am tier 13 only), or people that've beaten an sc to consider them at an above average level. Although I agree with Logan's opinion on this.
Maybe EO can get moved up to extreme and get an exclusive chat and voice chat in the discord. Or just remove it. Thats probably a good idea Edit: Even better idea: How about there be a subcategory of EO for each SC difficulty? Insane: Pro Obbyist Extreme: Super Obbyist Terrifying: Elite Obbyist Catastrophic: Legendary Obbyist Each subcategory will get a special chat and voice chat room. To prevent flexing on EO Subcategories lower than yours, the previous EO rank you had will be taken away after the next one is awarded. (For example, if you beat a terrifying, your extreme rank will be removed and your terrifying rank will be rewarded).
it would be kinda sad if your in the super obbyist room and someone you actually got to know beat a terri while talking to you so you basically forgot their username and couldn't friend them until you beat a terri like them lol
Outdated. ToGaH is now remorseless and ToDC and ToDT are the easiest SC towers, since both of them feel easier than some rems (I can get up to 7 in ToDC and 5 in ToDT, which both of them are better than my PB of 4 on ToES). Although I don't have zone 2 unlocked on my account, I had it unlocked on my old account, which is now banned indefinitely, had ring 5 and zone 2, so I could play ToDT in the official game on that account. Right now I have ring 4 and zone 1. Update: just realized that togah is rem and not intense lmao
I think ToDT should not be removed from EO in solution 2. It has a few hard sections which make it hard enough to be still be insane and EO imo. ToC is also a bit in the middle. Most of it is easy, and the conveyor stud near the end, which made it annoying, having to heal on it and dance clip out due to its rng, but it got nerfed to a normal stud. However, due to the difficulty of the start, and the fact that many of the conveyors can push you differently each time, adding an rng aspect, it might still be EO worthy.
ToIF should not be elite obbyist ToTL or higher should get elite obbyist ToIF Literally i beaten it on the practice place i think its a little bit lower than ToSO difficulty (Maybe its just me used to the gameplay style of ToIF) Edit:i think it has an extremely toxic impact
That role was such a big reason to me leaving the community. The toxicity it created from around mid-2019 onwards had such a negative impact that I would even go as far as saying it killed a lot of the fun/community engagement for people that played prior (and caused them to, well, you know, leave).
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This is the greatest JToH video ever to exist. We need more KToH/JToH history videos and i think you could be the perfect person to make those, Esha. Nice job
yeah i agree that these type of history videos are pretty interesting to listen to and it will educate some people about this stuff
A lot of it might be biased information, I may not be a part of the community anymore (at least I hope I am not affiliated with it) I still watch from the shadows. I really don't recommend this.
KToH/JToH History is Obbying history. I had an idea similar to esha's that have been in the works rn covering many aspects of obbying jtoh and not. But please don't think that JToH/KToH isn't in some way Obbying History, because it is lol.
@@immortalkeiji4451 There are many, trust me lol. Obbying extends way beyond just JToH, people consider Tower of Hell to be training wheels compared to JToH. But most relative towers in JToH are training wheels compared to the far reaches and extensions of obbying that people have been through, beaten, and conquered. Trust me haha, if you'd like me to name a few obbyists that doesn't play JToH I can if you want.
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this video is simply incredible. really hope you continue this series, i'm glad you're finally gaining the recognition you deserve.
DefinentlyGoose
I didn't know I wanted JToH history videos. But now I do know. This was a very informative video, and I definitely think you should make more of these, whether they are based on flaws or not.
EO is a very controversial role. Thanks for breaking it down and really getting to the point. Very good video, keep up the amazing work.
This is one of the most interesting and entertaining things I have ever watched. I love this!
Woah, this is pretty good. Hope you get the recognition you deserve. It summarizes the history of KToH and JToH.
I'll need to tell the 300+ EOs about this pressing issue
doubt they will listen
EO is just red verified
This is one of the best things i've heard all day
Amazing
most interesting jtoh video ive watched tbh, nice job :)
Jom do ToGF
@@knoqy9041 no
this needs way more views and id like to see a FitMC of jtoh because theres never been history covered about ktoh
Logan is actually one of the people who understands the perspective of the problems, understanding, accountablity, and solutions
Funnly enough, i was in the ring when ToC was in that ring... it tought me how to do 1st person, later i found out about shift lock!
woa cool
Logan:i have solution! 9:51
*add of corn shows up*
Me:corn is the solution
I have a solution!
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Me: Math was the solution.
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Thats the way TH-cam works, crocodile
also just a note: ToGaH wasn't the only tower added the ring 5 automatically, every tower was
and.. in the video it's stated that downplaying towers by EOs isn't good, however the 2nd solution is to remove towers from the pool of towers you can complete for EO
This is absolutely mind blowing.
No one would be community caring crazy to make a video like this
You are.
*gives respect*
7:50
Him: Things got to the point...
The song 1 second later: I have gotten to the point...
very well explained! I totally agree with you.
It's the first time i saw a so well made jtoh video
You know a videos old when ToOH has a star 💀
Subscribed and liked. Great video. Solution 3 and 4 are probably the best if you ask me. Beat a catasthrophic tower with FULL video proof without any cheats or cheese. Or just delete the role. (I’m pretty sure Elite Obbyist has been deleted by now, so yeah, cool.)
16:33 ah yes my favourite fraction, one fourth
This brought flashbacks, I remember being in server where people would ask are you an EO... tbh the community got toxic after this and I am glad it was removed, rip EO, you will not be missed.
I want more, really nicely done ^_^
"A couple people" Yeah remember that time?
4 people
one completion
Yeah I remember that.
Edit: Yup you fucking showed it.
haha
this gives me 2011 sm64 video vibes, which is a good thing, going job
videos that were like, explaining the mechanics of sm64 not the skits
U are the official jtoh koneko kitten if u keep uploading these amazing vids!
I love how well the "low insane" for ToC holds up today
Did it get buffed through time? I feel like if not Logan just didn’t know what he was talking about lol
i think that making eo requirments extreme+ is not a good idea. most peoples arguments for making it extreme+ is because there are too many eos, but eo was never supposed to be rare. eo is for people who are good at obbies
I agree, Insane would become a regular difficulty with no real significance
Solution 4 became a reality after all. GG for predicting it Logan
Blockerman666 and Friendly Fart are the only EOs according to solution 3 because they are the only ones who beat Cata+ without cheesing, using items, or clipping out of GBJ
well i just also learned the origin of coil barriers on scs so thats cool
Good video, very informative and structered well to hopefully not cause that many flamewars and the logic you give is justified very nicely. I'm no video reviewer or anything but keep up the good work man.
what if we make the elite obbyist role only for catastrophic towers and terrifying towers and below give you a different role like good obbyist or something idk
Poggers it's my guy logan_isl making another poggers video
Even as an eo myself it is flawed and I want it removed
EOs: Pfft ToDC is a remorseless why even have eo role
Me: SC IS SC!!
Well that’s ironic
and btw, the role was thankfully removed
Me:mom can we have konekokitten?
Mom:we have konekokitten at home
The konekokitten at home:
he is the koneko of jtoh
but he isn't a pedo
always nice to learn a bit more about ktoh.
The thing is that I just recently met him in a moth game lol
ok dis is actually fucking amazing. also how do i join teh jtoh discord?
lol i just noticed this video was made 4 days after i beat tofn for the 1st time
lol
I also agree just make it catastrophic
could you put this video up for community contributions I wanna write subtitles
never knew you could use the space button to enter a ring
In Solution 3, kaan2005 has Elite Obbyist, he’s gonna stay like thAt
Myfart greenbean
It really shouldn’t be extreme + because that would just boost the flexing part even more because you beat something harder...
i remember when i join KToH when it was created 10 day ago before i got scammed and i see some difficulties name (Horrific and unreal)
around a year ago, I wanted the role, so I grinded ToDC.. I ended up failing (and I'm actually serious) the last floor around 40 times total in the span of 3 weeks .. i never ended up completing todc and never got the role and eventually just stopped doing roblox obbying because I just got bored with it .. and because a few months afterwards the new todc was added so I just lost all motivation.
stupid 0.1 stud.
Hey Logan, I found out a mobile glitch on JToH, when I looked at JToH, it had no rating. Would you make a video on it?
Jtoh was a fps or battle game because the only team is "Steel Blue Team"
LO'L
@@yp1c Laughing out m'lady
Honestly it is true, but I do keep the rank in mind for people that are tier 13-14 (I am tier 13 only), or people that've beaten an sc to consider them at an above average level. Although I agree with Logan's opinion on this.
Juke: sees this video
Also juke: ok I’ll delete EO
*Deletes EO*
?
Solution: Just remove it, kinda embarassing my former community has to have a whole session of congress just to remove it.
I agree with you as well, I am shocked though that the community is pushing for a change. You and I know very well how stubborn the community gets.
Or make it so only anyone who has completed borderline extreme towers - cata and above (if more difficulties get added)
hi obren ajutwsh fsiahfgiwhgwoaishdefhfwathegiateoaw
@Kav but it’s real obren
@Kav it’s the real obren
i think it should just be terrifying+ for eo role
the new eo is speedrunner
Logan you get sub because I remember you from rnw and this was very good video
Maybe EO can get moved up to extreme and get an exclusive chat and voice chat in the discord. Or just remove it. Thats probably a good idea
Edit: Even better idea: How about there be a subcategory of EO for each SC difficulty?
Insane: Pro Obbyist
Extreme: Super Obbyist
Terrifying: Elite Obbyist
Catastrophic: Legendary Obbyist
Each subcategory will get a special chat and voice chat room. To prevent flexing on EO Subcategories lower than yours, the previous EO rank you had will be taken away after the next one is awarded. (For example, if you beat a terrifying, your extreme rank will be removed and your terrifying rank will be rewarded).
it would be kinda sad if your in the super obbyist room and someone you actually got to know beat a terri while talking to you so you basically forgot their username and couldn't friend them until you beat a terri like them lol
Horrific: Mythical Obbyist
Unreal: Top Obbyist
Got any ideas for difficulties above Unreal?
help why is this so interesting
Idk 60. Also you are months late but i am also weeks late to this reply.
dnk
how do you join discord jtoh server?
66.6% neutral rate can’t be a coincidence
It was when I took the calculation lol, I’m sure it’s different now
Logan_ISL - yeah I thought but good video anyways
“Tower of difficulty chart classic was deleted from elite obbyist”
Remove “from elite obbyist” and you get the current situation
true
12:36 it still is even with side clips
I am a mobile player this what I’m gonna do record the end of the tower but my time gonna be like 40 minutes lol
TT 🟪 Hardest Insane
ToTL🟩 Second hardest
ToDCR🟨 Third
ToGaH⬜ Could be third or fourth rng tho
ToDT🟦 Easiest SC I recommend you try this
where it all started
It should be for people who beat catastrophic towers
where is the discord and how to I get to it
I love this video. It's like a JToH podcast lol
But just with a backround.
I would deadass listen to a podcast like that
16:55 rip
Why not just make roles for each difficultly?
if obren kept ktoh it would be called today otoh
VToH
what is the disc pls
And now togah is rng again
Outdated. ToGaH is now remorseless and ToDC and ToDT are the easiest SC towers, since both of them feel easier than some rems (I can get up to 7 in ToDC and 5 in ToDT, which both of them are better than my PB of 4 on ToES).
Although I don't have zone 2 unlocked on my account, I had it unlocked on my old account, which is now banned indefinitely, had ring 5 and zone 2, so I could play ToDT in the official game on that account. Right now I have ring 4 and zone 1.
Update: just realized that togah is rem and not intense lmao
Wow a 2 year old video is outdated? I'm shocked
@@kittenwizard4703 im shocked too /j
Logan_ISL is just an absolute OG
how about rename elite obbyist to soul crushing tower completionist
Im actually trying to beat ToER itemless and legit, so wish me luck!
gl!
gl
did you beat it?
@@Arrowgu4 maybe like 2 years ago
Also the 5% that said positive are probably eos that don’t want the elite obbyist program removed
I like the 1st option the best imo
ToGaH is now rem soooooooo
Some people who have beaten a sc aren’t even in the jtoh discord xd
A lot haven’t. I think it’s best if they don’t.
I don’t want to attack, but what the hell, ToDC:R is at least a low insane not rem
I think ToDT should not be removed from EO in solution 2. It has a few hard sections which make it hard enough to be still be insane and EO imo. ToC is also a bit in the middle. Most of it is easy, and the conveyor stud near the end, which made it annoying, having to heal on it and dance clip out due to its rng, but it got nerfed to a normal stud. However, due to the difficulty of the start, and the fact that many of the conveyors can push you differently each time, adding an rng aspect, it might still be EO worthy.
just rename it to “chad” lol
Incredible video
pls give discord for the elite obbyiest
what
EO got removed
start dancing
nice vid u deserve like 5k subs ngl
what is the discord ;-;
My Man, 7:09 i have suspicion that you timed that jump wrong. Just maybe.
tofn barely remorseless
tofn barely remorseless
logan are u english??? (ask cus language in 0:52)
what, it's literally in english
I like how this is guy who went ClOy ClOy ClOy PlEaSe Be My FrIeNd!
11:53 WHAT ABOUT TOFAF LOL
It wasn't intense so they move it to challenging
!getroles
Oof for me cus I just fell TT floor 10
ToIF should not be elite obbyist
ToTL or higher should get elite obbyist
ToIF
Literally i beaten it on the practice place i think its a little bit lower than ToSO difficulty (Maybe its just me used to the gameplay style of ToIF)
Edit:i think it has an extremely toxic impact
Ah, I’m sure you’ll be pleased to hear it’s been removed :)
cOmMeNtAry EpIc
It's gone now :)
GG
GG
GG
GG
gg pro
Amazing video
That role was such a big reason to me leaving the community. The toxicity it created from around mid-2019 onwards had such a negative impact that I would even go as far as saying it killed a lot of the fun/community engagement for people that played prior (and caused them to, well, you know, leave).
It's actually shocking that the community is now owning up to it.
@@Logan_ISL they are???
@a rather long username that is trash i still don't want to come back
I beat togah for eo legit and I agree it should be taken out of the eo program
Now do one for speedrunner because its also trash
unless you don't want to