I would not say dont buy, i would say this car are not budget friendly not only that parts are not available But i have 2 landcruiser love them both i have over 30k on each one
OMG. I have owned several classic Land Cruisers and I would never whine like this guy. If you are going on a long trip and you want reliability from an old truck, then rebuild the starter, alternator, power steering, brake master, slaves, booster, radiator, replace all rubber hoses, reseal everything, replace all fluids, replace all wheel bearings, rebuild u joints…. Just do those obvious things right away. I suggest next time you go buy a Jeep Cherokee and see what happens!
Instead of spending 1.2k on that Bullbar 🤔, you should of spent it on maintance and then preemptive maintenance. I spent 4k on top of my original purchase price doing the labor myself.
So many new LC owners pay big $$$$ for lifts, front and rear bumpers, big tires and never think to do a proper baseline on the truck for maintenance. That’s where the big $$$ should be spent.
I just found one i’m thinking about buying on FV marketplace… i’m currently researching if i should go for the 100 Series or Live Axel 80s…. Both would be diesel obviously as i’m building to overland in southern africa and Australia after… I’m just stuck between 80s good off-road but bad road driving or 100 Series decent off-road and superior road comfortability
Buddy, all I am hearing is an expectation that it shouldn’t be worn out. You purchased a fairly well worn petrol SUV and depending upon the previous owners standard of maintenance you now have parts to replace. As an 80 owner, I would not only expect to regularly replace all hoses, gaskets, seals, etc, but also do a lot of preventive maintenance. Off-road vehicles cost a lot more to run and maintain, btw, sell that lemon petrol and buy a 1HDT. Then you will truly see what an off road vehicle can do.
hey Buddy if you fell out of love with your 30+years old LC then you can get rid of it, I am happy to buy, as it has "so many things happening" to it, I guess we can agree on a fare price. In case you don't want to sell, then please don't make a negative publicity for this legend. Anyone seriously involved in 4wd-ing knows that when you use your rig in the proper environment it was designed for and you do it for tens of years, of course you will have parts breaking down, of course you will need to have some maintenance done to your car. If all that abuse is neglected, then yes, eventually it will break down completely. Nothing (no 4wd car) is made out of diamonds to last forever without any spit shine applied to it, so ... please just be realistic ... somehow I just can't forget how in 2010 this 80 series LC (stock version) was taking me across the dunes of the Libyan desert with 130km/hr and I felt like I am riding on some highway, and that car spent most of its lifetime between the dunes and on the dirt roads of the Sahara, I have nothing but respect for the 80 series, but generally any tin box that has a Toyota badge and 4 wheels attached
For a thirty year old truck bro, thats nothing. Common wear, and tear items, really. She's 30 years old, that goes to show how good these vintage Toyotas actually are.
When I saw this title I almost fell off my chair because I own one!! My Spec/changes are: 1994 VX Auto (UK now in SA) 1. Replaced the engine with a 1HZ. 2. Rear wheel drive (Still have all the lockers and 4x4 lock on hubs. 3.Removed the ABS. Other than that she runs nicely and bang for buck!!
I have “land cruiser VX, 1hD-FTE, 1997” for 13 years and I off-road every single day no issues with it so you have no idea what you own. Please and please, I don’t want to hear just your negativities opinion on this legend. So let me buy This legend to enjoy the legacy of his reliability.
Charcoal canister is such an easy fix. Maintenance on anything older then 15 years is key. Yes they add up but certainly cheaper then letting them go and create even bigger problems.
Yes cracked tank was definitely avoidable with the charcoal canister. That was purely on me for sure. Although after inspection of fuel lines I’m glad I’m changing it all out. I agree, upkeep on maintenance is key to this whole journey with the Land Cruiser and if you have the time and motivation
I professionally restore land cruisers for a living doing. 3-4 engines a week. These are service trucks as in you preform services so you don’t have to replace parts. I love them but you have to have the budget for it
I see you are located in North America here in South America. You can get the 80 series in diesel engines from my experience with a 1994 1HD manual, I haven’t suffered from these issues once had a transfer case leak, but that was only the transfer case plug that was worn out because I use the 4 x 4 a lot otherwise then that I believe the petrol engines are a problem.. and to think those engine uses a distributor 😑
I drive 97 LC. I bought it over 24 yrs back and no regrets. 230K miles and still going strong. Yes it’s getting old and some plastic &!rubber has become brittle and falling off. Paint has worn off. Engine and transmission is still good. I still take it on a 8 hr drive w/o any issues. I went through many cars in these 24 years, but Landy is still with me and as dependable as when I bought it.
I've experienced a lot of wild "old car" issues with my 1991 MR2 as well. I hope the next repairs on yours go nicely, it looks so fun to wheel on the offroad trips!
@@QUEENSLANDER4x4 I’m not sure, I’m not from Queensland. Assuming Land Cruisers are usually available everywhere you should have no issues, just know it might be expensive
Many of the reasons you list is why it took me well over a year to find the right one… Many out there are in dire need of updating, and even my one owner, well maintained 1996 needed/still needs some updating. What people don’t anticipate are the things that break due to age while trying to fix the original issue.
Age + off road abuse (I think is the biggest one) and dirt. It all takes a toll magnified compared to restoring an older sports car. You’re going to be going through more parts you may think. For me absolutely worth it because it gets me to places where I need to go reliably, for some it’s worth taking to a shop OR considering a newer vehicle.
Exactly, with the off road abuse, 30 years old of crusty parts + the dirt & grime that goes unwashed your ending up replacing every rubber component on the vehicle. For me absolutely worth it, for some it may be worth considering a newer vehicle.
@@Yotaadventures Thats any vehicle and also called adulting lol, these things last. Think newer cars don't break all the time coincidently immediately after their warranty expires?
I think there are some necessary caveats…1) in what condition did you buy the vehicle, where did it come from, how many miles did it have when you bought it, and what maintenance was done when you bought it; 2) it’s a 1FZ-FE, an engine known to be less reliable than its diesel counterparts; 3) how are you using the vehicle? You make some great points, and I’ll take them into account with my HZJ81, but you did buy an 80-series at $3600 (what was the mileage?) and it sounds like you’ve driven it hard and put it up wet.
The only things I would say that are falling apart have been rubber components (bushings, cooling, hoses, fuel hoses, etc) and the interior. Outside of that, the 1fzfe runs in top shape. Well abused by me for sure as it’s intended to. In the end, I hope I was clear that it’s been absolutely worth it for me because it’s lived to the purpose of what I intended it for. I also hope for you too since you own one of the greatest vehicles ever made. For the majority of people, it may not because of the time + money needed to be invested in it to get it back where it needs to be.
The 1FZ being less reliable is definitely a relative statement. That engine is essential a tractor engine. Meant to be rebuilt twice over. It’s essentially indestructible if maintained properly.
You are comparing apples and oranges when you bring up your 2014 Tacoma. A difference of 20 years will make a difference in the wear/tear on certain items. All vehicles have rubber and WILL fail over time. There are threads on IH8MUD about the cracked tank, it is a common issue with the 80 series. Also, you mention that the rubber gaskets for oil relate to the oil pressure, you are actually wrong crank shaft and rod bearings are the biggest factor for oil pressure. Honestly what do you expect buying a 30 old vehicle, showroom quality? The previous owner is the one to blame for the lack of maintenance. You bought it knowing what you were getting into, if you did not do your research first that is on you.
Please and please, I don’t want to hear just your negativities opinion on this legend. So let me buy This legend to enjoy the legacy of his reliability.
These trucks are not for just anybody, but they can be daily driven, but with lots or preventive work, lots of cash, and a lot of DIY work, if you have to pay for all services, they get super expensive. most of the stuff is easy enough to do it yourself. and yes YOU shouldn't buy one if you are going to be complaining about the expenses that having one brings. anyone that ever had one already knows that, is not miles per gallon, but "Smiles for Gallon" any older car will will need lots of cash.
I wouldn’t buy it because it’s a money pit and really takes a certain love that most people don’t have for classic trucks. They are slow Not that comfortable Very inefficient Things will break as you start to drive it. Most are 30 years old at this point Otherwise still one of the coolest and best trucks I’ve owned Edit - why is there so much hate in the comments? Dudes just explaining his experience
Great advice! SOMEBODY needed to say this Josh 👍. In a way I feel bad for people buying these old Landcruisers at outrageous prices as a result of the IG effect when the fact is many if not most of them actually need a proper full drivetrain overhaul. It's probably worth mentioning that the wiring and connectors all become brittle as well. This of course doesn't seem like a problem until the owner or mechanic has to unplug or wiggle stuff out of the way in the course of various repairs. Btw, I tried posting the part numbers and prices for all the hose clamps below your other video but I don't think it took. Let me know if you want me to DM it.
Yes, definitely worth talking about before getting yourself invested in an old, over engineered 4x4. Funny enough, because of where I live I haven’t had much connectors going brittle on me compared to other older vehicles I’ve owned BUT definitely worth mentioning because of its age. All good, I found them online. Thank you so much for the help!
DO NOT BUY THEM!!! Save them all for me muahaha! Kinda sounds average maintenance things that a 30 year old vehicle needs. Most vehicles don't even last past a decade. My lx450 does great and drives better than any newer car I've had which is why its my daily driver and off roader. Sounds like you'd be better off with a new 'glamorous' Bronco 😂
Dude you paid stuff all for it. If you expect a new car condition you should have bought a new car but you’re cheaper than the car. Stop whining and fix it up and you will have a great truck and not be over budget. This is in no way a “warning don’t buy “
Great video and something everyone should know about ownership of these amazing vehicles. But if you have the time and $ to work on these, they are worth it.
I would not say dont buy, i would say this car are not budget friendly not only that parts are not available
But i have 2 landcruiser love them both i have over 30k on each one
That’s a good point my friend. More like, buyer beware. Thanks!
Parts are not available???? Ever heard of the aftermarket??? OEM parts for 80 series are still quite available. Research.
OMG. I have owned several classic Land Cruisers and I would never whine like this guy. If you are going on a long trip and you want reliability from an old truck, then rebuild the starter, alternator, power steering, brake master, slaves, booster, radiator, replace all rubber hoses, reseal everything, replace all fluids, replace all wheel bearings, rebuild u joints…. Just do those obvious things right away.
I suggest next time you go buy a Jeep Cherokee and see what happens!
I think this poor guy needs a therapist. It's a 30yrs old truck, what did you expect.
He has 7 years experience with Land Cruiser he has clout. What have u?
Send her over here if you dont want her, we got good homes for 80s.😂❤
Instead of spending 1.2k on that Bullbar 🤔, you should of spent it on maintance and then preemptive maintenance. I spent 4k on top of my original purchase price doing the labor myself.
So many new LC owners pay big $$$$ for lifts, front and rear bumpers, big tires and never think to do a proper baseline on the truck for maintenance. That’s where the big $$$ should be spent.
I just found one i’m thinking about buying on FV marketplace… i’m currently researching if i should go for the 100 Series or Live Axel 80s…. Both would be diesel obviously as i’m building to overland in southern africa and Australia after… I’m just stuck between 80s good off-road but bad road driving or 100 Series decent off-road and superior road comfortability
It might have came with the ARB
I've owned my 1997 model for 17yrs and it has been the most reliable vehicle I've ever owned. I wouldn't dream of selling mine.
Buddy, all I am hearing is an expectation that it shouldn’t be worn out. You purchased a fairly well worn petrol SUV and depending upon the previous owners standard of maintenance you now have parts to replace. As an 80 owner, I would not only expect to regularly replace all hoses, gaskets, seals, etc, but also do a lot of preventive maintenance. Off-road vehicles cost a lot more to run and maintain, btw, sell that lemon petrol and buy a 1HDT. Then you will truly see what an off road vehicle can do.
hey Buddy if you fell out of love with your 30+years old LC then you can get rid of it, I am happy to buy, as it has "so many things happening" to it, I guess we can agree on a fare price. In case you don't want to sell, then please don't make a negative publicity for this legend. Anyone seriously involved in 4wd-ing knows that when you use your rig in the proper environment it was designed for and you do it for tens of years, of course you will have parts breaking down, of course you will need to have some maintenance done to your car. If all that abuse is neglected, then yes, eventually it will break down completely. Nothing (no 4wd car) is made out of diamonds to last forever without any spit shine applied to it, so ... please just be realistic ... somehow I just can't forget how in 2010 this 80 series LC (stock version) was taking me across the dunes of the Libyan desert with 130km/hr and I felt like I am riding on some highway, and that car spent most of its lifetime between the dunes and on the dirt roads of the Sahara, I have nothing but respect for the 80 series, but generally any tin box that has a Toyota badge and 4 wheels attached
Anything (that's ANYTHING) left unmanaged will deteriorate. You can quote me on this.
For a thirty year old truck bro, thats nothing. Common wear, and tear items, really. She's 30 years old, that goes to show how good these vintage Toyotas actually are.
You are correct that you should not have bought an 80 series Land Cruiser.
Thumbs down 👎
All I hear is whining.
You bought it for $3600
Consider yourself lucky
When I saw this title I almost fell off my chair because I own one!! My Spec/changes are: 1994 VX Auto (UK now in SA) 1. Replaced the engine with a 1HZ. 2. Rear wheel drive (Still have all the lockers and 4x4 lock on hubs. 3.Removed the ABS. Other than that she runs nicely and bang for buck!!
I have “land cruiser VX, 1hD-FTE, 1997” for 13 years and I off-road every single day no issues with it so you have no idea what you own. Please and please, I don’t want to hear just your negativities opinion on this legend. So let me buy This legend to enjoy the legacy of his reliability.
Charcoal canister is such an easy fix. Maintenance on anything older then 15 years is key. Yes they add up but certainly cheaper then letting them go and create even bigger problems.
Yes cracked tank was definitely avoidable with the charcoal canister. That was purely on me for sure. Although after inspection of fuel lines I’m glad I’m changing it all out.
I agree, upkeep on maintenance is key to this whole journey with the Land Cruiser and if you have the time and motivation
theres no way your charcoal canister CRACKED YOUR TANK BRO. I cant believe you got all these comments talking straight out of your ass@@Yotaadventures
That SUV is a reliable classic I would drive it everyday these new cars problematic.. 80s-99s cars SUV are best classic
I professionally restore land cruisers for a living doing. 3-4 engines a week. These are service trucks as in you preform services so you don’t have to replace parts. I love them but you have to have the budget for it
I see you are located in North America here in South America. You can get the 80 series in diesel engines from my experience with a 1994 1HD manual, I haven’t suffered from these issues once had a transfer case leak, but that was only the transfer case plug that was worn out because I use the 4 x 4 a lot otherwise then that I believe the petrol engines are a problem.. and to think those engine uses a distributor 😑
I own a 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser, and, l must say that it has been one of the most reliable vehicles that l have ever owned
I have a 93 Diesel.
Most reliable vehicle I’ve owned.
Had it for 17 years so far and still loving it.
I drive 97 LC. I bought it over 24 yrs back and no regrets. 230K miles and still going strong. Yes it’s getting old and some plastic &!rubber has become brittle and falling off. Paint has worn off. Engine and transmission is still good. I still take it on a 8 hr drive w/o any issues. I went through many cars in these 24 years, but Landy is still with me and as dependable as when I bought it.
I've experienced a lot of wild "old car" issues with my 1991 MR2 as well. I hope the next repairs on yours go nicely, it looks so fun to wheel on the offroad trips!
Yes sir, old Toyota issues for sure but hey they still run!
Hi I am planning to buy a 1996 V6 80 series Petrol land cruiser, are the parts easily available in Queensland
@@QUEENSLANDER4x4 I’m not sure, I’m not from Queensland. Assuming Land Cruisers are usually available everywhere you should have no issues, just know it might be expensive
Yeh, brother, thats just not your type of car. Get Toyota Prius, those are much cheaper to drive.
Many of the reasons you list is why it took me well over a year to find the right one… Many out there are in dire need of updating, and even my one owner, well maintained 1996 needed/still needs some updating. What people don’t anticipate are the things that break due to age while trying to fix the original issue.
Age + off road abuse (I think is the biggest one) and dirt. It all takes a toll magnified compared to restoring an older sports car. You’re going to be going through more parts you may think.
For me absolutely worth it because it gets me to places where I need to go reliably, for some it’s worth taking to a shop OR considering a newer vehicle.
Maybe you need a socxer mom van not a 80 series😅
Well for a fact when replacing everything your looking at 12 to 15,000
Exactly, with the off road abuse, 30 years old of crusty parts + the dirt & grime that goes unwashed your ending up replacing every rubber component on the vehicle.
For me absolutely worth it, for some it may be worth considering a newer vehicle.
Lol!! U should have seen my 10 year old chevy back in the day, everything broke! One owner! Ill keep my cruiser. Cheers!
Me too, been worth every penny. Just a warning for those who may over fantasize of owning one themselves. It takes work, time and $$$
@@Yotaadventures Thats any vehicle and also called adulting lol, these things last. Think newer cars don't break all the time coincidently immediately after their warranty expires?
All I hear is whining its a old truck that was probably neglected sat around shut up dude if you cant afford it sell it simple
Do you want to sell it? What is your asking price?
Bro there's a reason it was sold to you for $3,600. It's a fixer upper.
It’s still a screaming good buy.
Alot of these will need work at 30 years old!! Iv had a couple, not amy regrets so far.. I do see what u say tho.
I have one for the past 10 years in diesel 1hdfte it runs perfect.what is your problem I don't know.
80 series with 1hdfte swap?
The vehicle in great condition for it age ..how many vehicles from this year looks this great as today .
I think there are some necessary caveats…1) in what condition did you buy the vehicle, where did it come from, how many miles did it have when you bought it, and what maintenance was done when you bought it; 2) it’s a 1FZ-FE, an engine known to be less reliable than its diesel counterparts; 3) how are you using the vehicle?
You make some great points, and I’ll take them into account with my HZJ81, but you did buy an 80-series at $3600 (what was the mileage?) and it sounds like you’ve driven it hard and put it up wet.
The only things I would say that are falling apart have been rubber components (bushings, cooling, hoses, fuel hoses, etc) and the interior. Outside of that, the 1fzfe runs in top shape.
Well abused by me for sure as it’s intended to.
In the end, I hope I was clear that it’s been absolutely worth it for me because it’s lived to the purpose of what I intended it for. I also hope for you too since you own one of the greatest vehicles ever made. For the majority of people, it may not because of the time + money needed to be invested in it to get it back where it needs to be.
The 1FZ being less reliable is definitely a relative statement. That engine is essential a tractor engine. Meant to be rebuilt twice over. It’s essentially indestructible if maintained properly.
It needs a good rebuild, and she'll be good for another 30 years. Nothing abnormal about that...also, any modern 4x4 wouldn't last half that long
Let me know if your ready to sell it. I’ll buy it
You are comparing apples and oranges when you bring up your 2014 Tacoma. A difference of 20 years will make a difference in the wear/tear on certain items. All vehicles have rubber and WILL fail over time. There are threads on IH8MUD about the cracked tank, it is a common issue with the 80 series. Also, you mention that the rubber gaskets for oil relate to the oil pressure, you are actually wrong crank shaft and rod bearings are the biggest factor for oil pressure. Honestly what do you expect buying a 30 old vehicle, showroom quality? The previous owner is the one to blame for the lack of maintenance. You bought it knowing what you were getting into, if you did not do your research first that is on you.
Please and please, I don’t want to hear just your negativities opinion on this legend. So let me buy This legend to enjoy the legacy of his reliability.
These trucks are not for just anybody, but they can be daily driven, but with lots or preventive work, lots of cash, and a lot of DIY work, if you have to pay for all services, they get super expensive. most of the stuff is easy enough to do it yourself. and yes YOU shouldn't buy one if you are going to be complaining about the expenses that having one brings. anyone that ever had one already knows that, is not miles per gallon, but "Smiles for Gallon" any older car will will need lots of cash.
I have a 1997 Lexus LX 450 and I’m happy with it. It has 210,000 miles and is still running great. I’m keeping it.
I wouldn’t buy it because it’s a money pit and really takes a certain love that most people don’t have for classic trucks.
They are slow
Not that comfortable
Very inefficient
Things will break as you start to drive it.
Most are 30 years old at this point
Otherwise still one of the coolest and best trucks I’ve owned
Edit - why is there so much hate in the comments? Dudes just explaining his experience
I have Lc 80 and Lc100 they both reliable vehicles parts are available seldom needs to be repaired.
Great advice! SOMEBODY needed to say this Josh 👍. In a way I feel bad for people buying these old Landcruisers
at outrageous prices as a result of the IG effect when the fact is many if not most of them actually need a proper full drivetrain overhaul. It's probably worth mentioning that the wiring and connectors all become brittle as well. This of course doesn't seem like a problem until the owner or mechanic has to unplug or wiggle stuff out of the way in the course of various repairs. Btw, I tried posting the part numbers and prices for all the hose clamps below your other video but I don't think it took. Let me know if you want me to DM it.
Yes, definitely worth talking about before getting yourself invested in an old, over engineered 4x4.
Funny enough, because of where I live I haven’t had much connectors going brittle on me compared to other older vehicles I’ve owned BUT definitely worth mentioning because of its age.
All good, I found them online. Thank you so much for the help!
DO NOT BUY THEM!!! Save them all for me muahaha! Kinda sounds average maintenance things that a 30 year old vehicle needs. Most vehicles don't even last past a decade. My lx450 does great and drives better than any newer car I've had which is why its my daily driver and off roader. Sounds like you'd be better off with a new 'glamorous' Bronco 😂
Your tittle is you. The vehicle looks look like you treated very well. Your points seem obvious with an older vehicle. Fix it up
i got 2k cash
Dude you paid stuff all for it. If you expect a new car condition you should have bought a new car but you’re cheaper than the car. Stop whining and fix it up and you will have a great truck and not be over budget.
This is in no way a “warning don’t buy “
Why not buy a second hand chinese made suv in china
Great video and something everyone should know about ownership of these amazing vehicles. But if you have the time and $ to work on these, they are worth it.
Oh dear, brother, you’re really disappointing.
The 80 series is great, not all owners can handle it.
Best that you go buy a brand new Nissan x-trail
SHANOU WHALE from 4wd247 will disagree
sooty fans all over the world
ill give you 100 bucks for it
?
Lol
this guy doesnt know what hes talking about
How long have owned a LC? He has 7 yrs ownership