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- I had a viewer reach out to me and ask me to inspect thier 2004 Beaver Santiam roof. It was at Cassone's RV in Mesa, AZ for an unrelated item. Truth be told I haven't seen a Santiam in 18 years. Monaco had aquired Beaver and Safari motor coach a year before and had already turned Beaver's into clones of their Monaco and Holiday Rambler coaches. While this roof is metal which is rare and very durable, they also tend to come loose at the radius molding. So this is a very common problem and should be looked for when inspecting a Monaco brand product.
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Casssone's RV
3032 E Main St
Mesa, AZ 85213
480 357-5200
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YOU ARE THE BEST AND HONNEST TECHNICTION IN A Z !!!!!!!!
thank you. I'm confident there are lots of us around though too .
We started looking for a used coach last year and your experience on coaches has been valuable.
In all of our experiences of inspecting coaches, I carry a protimeter with everyone we see. I’m own a remodeling residential company is why I own one.
Just about everyone we’ve seen has water intrusion on the roof. But what I found is how many have water in the walls, mainly around the slide outs.
Why don’t you use one?
And thank you for sharing your knowledge it has helped me over and over and as of now we are still looking for that diamond.
Always a pleasure to learn from you James....
It's nice to see what owners are in for on these older coaches. There's so much planned obsolescence and poor designs in RVs including aftermarket items. Cheap plastic some with with holes too close to edges. Too bad Monaco opted for two rolls of aluminum and a seal down the middle for the roof but I guess it's an aluminum roll unit cost saver with about 2x more rolls of aluminum needed. And loud and clear - make sure your RV tech does the repair correctly the first time or you will be in it for a redo.
Always helpful and highly interesting to watch. Glad you are not afraid of heights.
Really enjoy your videos. I've learned a ton and have been able to find some issues on my Tiffen Allegro that I would not have been aware were in need of attention. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.😎😎😎
Great to hear!
So much great information as I make up my mind on the type of RV I plan on buying. Really appreciate your attention to detail as you inform of what to look for and what to look out for. Thank you
Rent first!!!
Thanks James for all the cool info of yet another brand. Great info for the buyer market
Filing all this info for my future buying, thx man
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This is the Good Stuff !
Great Roof Video Man !
Thanks for the video, I have a 2002 Safari Trek with the same style 2 part metal roof, I also need to go up there and do its spring inspection sometime soon, so now you have given me a few things to check more closely. I also now have less concern about where the radius on mine is dented in similar to the one you showed though mine is not as bad.
Thanks for bringing us along with this inspection, glad to learn about this Santiam. Happy trails!
Thanks for watching so regularly!
Great job as always James. If we are ever in the area I'm gonna get you to look at our roof just to get on the tube. 😀
thanks. I appreciate that
You do such good job inspecting roofs
thank you
Love your videos and comments…you bring out great points …. Inspect inspect inspect..😎
thank you!!
Great video James! You mentioned the flaking of the clear coat along the roof line, is that mainly cosmetic?
James, rockin the Andrew Steele swag. Nice job.
I still have the beat up hat, but thought I'd try to look presentable :)
What about these old solar panels? They look to be beyond their life expectancy. Are they still functional and working? I've watched many of your videos and you don't say much about them beyond secure, mounts, original.
Thanks for these videos. We learn a lot from you.
Hey James, I'm digging those Geico shades:)
thank you......not a sponsor :)
Nice! This was fun to watch. In my limited experiences with coaches, I learned the ropes atop a Monaco Executive, and then a Prevost. The difference is surprising. Monaco built, what I believe, the Mercedes of coaches. Prevost? The Rolls-Royce.
Mind you, I come from a few decades of specialty in the automotive realm, I have worked on both cars.
The top cap and roof on the Monaco is typical. Nice stuff. Looks like a compromise was made on the top of the ladder.
It is absolutely critical, with roof mounted AC units, to address water incursion. Same with the skylights! Been there on addressing the potential problems.
Going from a Monaco, to a Prevost? What a difference. I must restate this: the Monaco quality is brilliant in its own right. The chassis are completely different, a Prevost is, first and foremost, different, it is a true commercial bus. It was a real experience to learn about the air packs beneath the Prevost, and an almost completely bare roof!
Thanks for watching! :)
@@AZExpert I really appreciate your attention to detail. Your videos are a pleasure to watch.
Ladder reinstalled by a consistently inconsistent handyman? I have learned if it has not failed yet it is eternabond, once it fails it obviously is not eternabond. Another educational video. I like this style metal roof looks good. Stay safe and healthy James you have taught me to get an inspection before buying something like this. There are so many things that can fail but not be easy to see. Casones has some more work to do.
that's the best way I have heard eternabond explained yet. :)
Good Video what would it cost to have that all done over Correctly before Purchase?
My 1998 HR has a metal roof also like that but white coating is gone. What should I coat it with? Thanks
@AZExpert I have a 2003 Santiam with the metal roof also and need to clean it to get ready for storage this winter. Do you recommend any specific products?
@AZExpert what size and type of rivet do I need for that seam? I have a 2003 beaver santiam with the metal roof and a few spots are pulling away. Do I need to seal under the seam also?
Can you recommend a North GA inspector (TN, NC border within 1 hour, too)? (We're in Ellijay, GA)
What's the ball park figure for repairs on this roof?
So, after Monaco bought beaver safari, they stopped using the beaver molded fiberglass roof and went to the holday rambler safari aluminum roofs? Are all Monaco from 2002 through their demise in 2008 metal? Also, what years had the clear coat problem from the environmentalists making them change the formula?
Have the same roof on my 02 Monaco Diplomat. Need to figure out a way to lift the roof around the rear AC. It’s a common sag. Also I know your on the roof, but Monaco Slides come apart on the bottom edges as well. Talin mfg in Florida has a beautiful plate fix
yes they do. I have seen those plates too.
I'm surprised my Fleetwood is holding up as good as it is. I inspect it 3 times a yea minimum. Do whatever it needs to be right and dry
Good video, now you have me wondering what type of roof a Prevost or Newell has?
To my knowledge metal roof but not seamed in the middle. Still have to keep up with the inspections. We own a Wanderlodge and they are the same.
both are metal
I have an 04 Santiam. Just got home from beach last night. Washing it this morning and noticed 2 areas around slide where the roof rivets have failed and it’s coming apart. Do you have a video repairing this problem?
I have so many different videos explaining different roofs and how to fix
- 20 years old but my monical diplomat 2001 and it is still ceiling perfectly metal cap
Old ones are sometimes the best
Lot of flexing needed in the rear of a coach. Still pretty good considering the age.
it has held up well.
now you mentioned to drill out old rivits and drill new holes ( if i heard you correctly ) why cant you install new rivits in old locations
often you can, but the hole sometimes becomes too big to hold a rivet
Yikes, a lot failed in only 3 years 😉. Geez the issues made me feel panicky to get them fixed asap before things get worse underneath. Expensive coaches to begin with, gotta stay on top of those roofs, lol. And a slide not opening either! Oh boy…..🍻
luckily the slide was only user error on my part.
We had a 1998 Diplomat with a one-piece aluminum roof. Obviously this was cost-saving going to two piece . No problems with the one piece. Eventually the windows and the slide leaked. Why would you buy a Beaver after Monaco acquired them? Not sure.
yeah, I never understood the purchase from Monaco even at the time.
Anyone else get a quiiiizeeey feeling when camera looks over the edge.
Most common problem is rain
Would it be possible to replace a fiberglass roof with metal? Curious why Winnebago owners wouldn't opt to do that.
Most would not be designed to hold that kind of weight
@@AZExpert Thanks for the quick reply. I wonder if you would make a video on roof weight load capacity. I'm about ready to put enough solar on my '01 Endeavor to run a mini-split because everyone else is doing it (only somewhat joking). I would think that aluminum and fiberglass would be comparable (but I don't know why I think that). But I also am concerned after watching your videos that many people are not screwing down solar panels and using butyl tape instead. I saw you do an install and you bolted it down, so I wondered how intelligent the butyl tape idea (that I was going to do) really is? Are there conditions where one is a better idea than the other?
I know, more roof stuff, but this is kinda different and you are the de facto TH-cam RV roof expert.
It didn't get it's annual wash and wax...I painted mine with boat top coat.
that still counts :)
The reason why they're riveted is because that's the area over the engine so a leak won't bother anything there
Thanks for the comment
It is 2024, now, why aren't RV manufacturers coming up with a better roof design like a one piece metal or fiberglass roof.
And the next step would be, no luann and if you needed plymood it would have to be preasuretreated.
But I guess it only has to last 1 year and then, who cares, except of course the owner.
So, as one contractor to another one question would be, since most homeowners want a price up front, and then you have talking heads saying never give a contractor money up front, would you ever bid this or is it all time and materials, like it should be.
My thinking is too many things could go wrong after you start a job like this so you would have to bid it extremely high, and 50% down at least up front so you don't get stiffed.
But I am sure you are not desperate for work so it would all be time and materials or they can find someone else.
And someone as good and well known as yourself, no one would want to stiff you because who else would do the job.
I just try to be fair. I am bad at estimating so I keep expectations low so I can look better :)
I don't think the salesman knows what he's talking about. Sahara was Monaco way in the
I'm not a salesman
Have the same roof on my 02 Monaco Diplomat. Need to figure out a way to lift the roof around the rear AC. It’s a common sag. Also I know your on the roof, but Monaco Slides come apart on the bottom edges as well. Talin mfg in Florida has a beautiful plate fix
I have seen the roofs collapse there too