The Best F-16 In The Game - F-16 MLU ft. 1v4
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Fuel: Max tank + droptank
Ammo: Ground targets
Missiles: 2x aim7M 4x aim-9L
Countermeasures: Depends on map Flares priority or flares only
Convergence: 600 meters
Vertical Targeting: No
Crew: maxed (lvl 75) + expert
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It will not cease to annoy me that bricks like the phantom can out maneuver the f16 on the high end when they by all rights would snap like a twig irl.
It's a game, it's not meant to be a sim
Its bullshit, F4 doesnt outturn F-16, F16's pilot should be too bad for that
Skill issue?
@@Bobspineable the g-limiter isn’t modeled correctly in game. More importantly, it’s a game. The f-16, for balancing purposes, shouldn’t turn worse than a 104 or phantom
@@Bobspineable and yet, 2 circle f-16 claps, especially on full controls (tho, dont know does computer works with FC)
Defyn, when you’re in ACM mode during a turn and want to lock an AIM-9L quickly, you can change the ACM mode where it gives you a HUGE vertical rectangle so you can slave the missile and get it ready to launch before you even get nose on.
What's the option name for doing that?
@@theimpassibile96 change radar/irst search mode
@@theimpassibile96 Change Radar/IRST search mode. You have to do it whilst in ACM mode already
Holy shit, I'd never even tried changing mode in ACM. Top tip there.
I'm a prop main who has just barely gotten into jets and radars confuse me so much. I really want to understand how they work so I can follow along Defyn's videos better.
I used your code to give the snail 2 dollars and buy the flare mod for the F-16. Truly a skill issue.
if it was fo american f16 then your clearly trash
Tbh "I can see the burner so the IR is also there" isn't that simple. If you look at a glasspane it's almost perfectly transparent to visible light but not infrared. Water is also not transparent to IR and that's what clouds are.
Hell the lenses of IR cameras are made of Germanium which is a metal that's completely opaque to our eyes but great lens material in IR.
That's actually pretty interesting. I thought it was Gaijin just being lazy but it was actually the opposite. However I still would like to see this be less extreme as WT is a game and it can be pretty annoying at times when I can't lock on to a guy 700 meters away while he's afterburning. 1-0.8 KM and under should be sufficient for most of the higher end missiles if lined up properly.
Doesn't it depend on the thickness of the clouds?
There's barely any between us and wt clouds will block IR if there's a singular spec between me and the target.
I am not saying this particular instance is bullshit but in some instances it definitely is.
I shouldn't have worded it like i did in the video however that's my mistake
@@DEFYN sometimes ill be below a cloud and it will still not let me get a lock. gaijin definitely overestimates how much the clouds block the IR signatures
@@chumbucket4539 It might not be an overestimate honestly. Clouds do a have a transparent layer underneath them that could disrupt IR signatures. It may not be able to be seen with the naked eye, but it is there. Now, I'm not an expert, so I could be completely wrong; This is is just my inference.
@@plantenthusiast3052 I think it could just be a case of the cloud modelling boxes being much more simplified than what you can see so a cloud is modelled as being there even though visually it isn’t
As per usual, Defn's youtube vids are peak War Thunder Content.
Accidentally breaking the airfield AA was the best part of this entire update. I am so sad they have fixed it now.
Mood
The MLU is actually a very, very modern plane. It's not modeled that way in the game, but as better planes come, I presume it'll be upgraded. The radar in the MLU is an AN/APG-66(v)3, and has massive advantages over all other radars in the game, the only exception being the F-14's radar. But do note that there won't be anything with a radar as good as the F-14's until we get very modern aircraft. Think the very latest 4th gen + fighters.
PESA radars will be coming probably as early as next year
"Very powerful and modern radar"
Meanwhile today on multiple occassions enemy has CHAFFED my F-16A block 20 MLU Chinese F-16...
CHAFFED a PULSE DOPPLER... IN A HEADON!
"Really modern radar" yea right
@@kajmak64bit76 that's just typical war thunder, hell they won't even model auto flaps and slats which is completely controlled by the fbw computer on the f-16, let alone actually usable radars and accurate fox1s that doesn't guide itself by magic when u lose lock at last few seconds
@@hauptmann_ivan Something tells me that the flight model of the F-16 may actually not be unstable as it's supposed to be. The instructor can probably deal with a mild instability, but I doubt it should be able to deal with the instability of a real F-16, unless Gaijin modified the instructor a lot.
@@martijn9568 don't think flight models in war thunder are that detailed, missile performance is especially noticeable as missiles performance do not alter drastically in game
The AAA issue is really quite simple I believe. If you genuinely need to repair/rearm/refuel that's fine sometimes things are out of your control and being strafed on the airfield with literally no counter-play is boring, especially when you wanted to fight. But if you are one of those players who immediately retreats to the airfield at any sign of a disadvantage (especially egregious at prop tier), you may aswell stop playing the game, as you let the game play itself and importantly you do not learn a thing. If you took that 2v1 for example, you might have won, you might have lost but the important factor here is that you could have learned something, could have understood better how to deal with a future 2v1. That's the part that bothers me the most, it's the obvious lack of willingness to get better at the game, I find it incredibly sad.
Maybe a mechanic where it lies dormant until a plane lands, then remains active for a minute (usually average rearm times are shorter) and then switches off for a period. You can remain protected for as long as you need but cannot actually abuse the system.
Well its a 2 sided story,when your the winning team you either want him alive so you can grind then kill him,orrr you and the whole team wants him good so they can move on to the next match,now if your on the loosing team,its you vs anything from 2-12 players,who the fuck wants to fight a 2v12 when you can wait and see atleast 3 die from flying stupid and 2 others leaving the game or just land an leave,if its a 1v3 or 1v5 its like okay with a 1v3 maybe i can fight them all at once,or they all attack me,same thing when its a 5v1 but after that if its a 6v1 they all rush you,you have no way of winning or maybe even killing on,trying is good but somtimes all it does it annoy you when if you waited you could have annoyed the enemy team
@@lamborgatti-4783 great excuses scumlord.
I agree with you on camping bases being bad. But if I’m in an outclassed plane then there isn’t anything else I can do but bait the enemy into my base. What else can I do? Die like a honourable samurai and let him swat me out of the sky? No, I’d prefer to land and J out to at least save myself 15k repair cost.
But then you leave
You don't try to win by circling for 20 minutes untill a Roland plays the game for you
@@DEFYNnot everyone is a skilled pilot as you and i think most ppl will be scared when
mig 29s camp near the airfield
Flying F-16A ADF, I noticed that if I was able to hold the aircraft through some means or another on the deck at ~800km/h, I was getting 23-25 degrees per second of rate. Nothing currently in the game tops that for sustained rate. Really fun to do in 1v1's if you drag it down to the deck and watch your opponents freak the ever living fuck out. Even funnier when you tap elevator in mid-altitude fights to maintain ~1000km/h in a kind of yoyo maneuver. No one who committed can get guns on you easily at all. Monster of a plane.
Cant wait for when the “newer” models of the 4th gens get added because the flare spam will be more common making the pain of better IR missiles less brutal to fight against.
I love how plane damage lowers max g load you can do. He ripped him self trying to cancer roll lmao
God watching you play makes me so jealous. I have the flying down and managing my speed and all that. And I can hit with missiles.
But I CANT for the life of me get those machine gun kills that you get.
Cannons
@@lamborgatti-4783 alright captain smarty pants. How about stfu no one cares
@@lamborgatti-4783 Here's a fun fact for the day, generally every aircraft mounted cannon is a machine gun according to the Imperial Japanese Navy.
Ending with an airfield hugger getting slapped is lovely...
they added the chute and made the engines a bit better today for the mlu
The chute was always there
I used it on the dev server...
They removed it and got it back... what a skill issue from them lol probably got them bugged or something
I watch this video at least twice a week. Commentary, gameplay, awareness, aim. Everything is amazing
In my F-16 I seem to only die to either other F-16s, MIG 29, or PD enabled planes. Am I just out skilling these players? Without afterburner this plane flies like a dream (AND this is with a crew level of 1 so it's not pay to win issue either.)
why are you crewing an f16 with crew lvl 1?
@@oskarpiskorek9945 wanted to level up my new crew slot and figured I'd be spending a lot of time on the F-16.
Lozoking forward to getting to this beast after starting grinding towards the F5-E
Who tf is Lozoking? Also F-5E isnt carrier based so F14 is in other branch.
@@Marin3r101 chinese f5e
@@Marin3r101 autocorrect lol, plus it’s the Chinese line
The problem of all F-16s is that Gaijin, in their infinite wisdom, decided that turn performance should be based on altitude and whether the AB is on or off instead of IAS.
Love these videos, best teacher of wt
Duh
Superspreader alert!! :-P Get well soon, old sealclubber!
Btw. how do you get into the fight, without getting focused out by long range radar missiles from F-14, when you are climbing? I have no problems in the short range fight, when i get into it, but that radar shit is so annyoing. I know you can notch, but notching means they have the better position on you usually...
the first seconds of the matches are awfull for me. especially in higher rank mig 21s.
I swear gaijin adds better versions of American vehicles to non-american tech trees on purpose.
I'm trying to master the flying method for the MLU and I wanted to ask this simple question - Climb high and risk F-14A spam or stay low on the side and swoop in on a distracted furball? I'm doing ok in the MLU but I'd like to do better. I have spaded it. Cheers bro.
U should start a course called how to fly in War Thunder.. Great video, I m so close to f 16 block ...
good video f-16 is everything i want i just need to know if it has the funnel sight
it doesn't
I like this game because of the realistic the systems the strategy and the way yuo have to make spilt second and wee like a real pilot
The Discord link is invalid for me for some reason. I'd love to see a guide on how to fly the Mig23-ML* against 11.7 up-tiers. Since the update 100% of my Mig23ML matches have been against swarms of F14's, F16's and Mig29's. I did fine pre-patch in 11.3 matches, but I'm struggling against the swarms of 11.7. Waves of BVR, radar out-classed, out-turned by everything. Would love some tips.
thank you so much for the content TwT, i only have a question, when will se the Japanese F-16? :3
finally researching it!!!! long long grind :(
It's not a G limiter. It's an AoA limiter.
please be my Air combat sensei.... im ok but not great at air RB, so watching you is helping me a lot any simple tips you have would be much appreciated' especially at the higher tiers
i didnt understand how we have the decal ?
They really need to fix the broken g limiter, It won't pull harder than 6g's over 550kt
Is the Chinese F16 better than American ones just because of the extra countermeasures (and bombs) or does it turn better, does it have a better flight performance in any way ?
irl it had little bit more thrust and a better radar and then later on it was upgraded to block 72
bur as of now the only thing mlu has over the american one is a parachute and more countermeasures
just noticed the "skill issue" decal is an F-22 shooting down a Sabre lol
My last few top tier games, I've been in shit scenarios. Including an f14 that dumped 6 phoenixs at me at the start of the game. I was literally just cruising right next to the ground towards the battle field and get bonked by 6 missiles
Can you make a video about flaring missiles? Cause r60 you drop one flare and the thing is gone, but an aim9l you drop like 50 and still tracks
that would be the entire content of the video
stop afterburning and don't spam flares, bunch the flares together
@@akiara8491 su 25 dont have afterburner and still a rear aspect 9l is almost impossible to dodge,
@@darioortiz74 no
bunch up flares, reduce throttle, it's really simple
13:28 Ayo?.🤨📸
Were you that Harrier player?
@@martijn9568 No I made this comment because DEFYN said, and I quote, “ I can run trains on him all day long.”
@@ilikepies4877 lmao
Well, hope ya get better soon "DEFYN" cuz you sound so congested. But get well thanks for the vid
Just was watching one of your older vids are you still working in a hospital? if so thank you
Is the cockpit any different from the ADF or block 10?
No, but it should be. The block 20 MLU is supposed to have 2 MFDs and a UFC.
@@Dwight511 block 20MLU doesn't exist. Only block 15s were made into MLUs. Properly itd be block 20OCU.
Hey DEFYN, could you do an F16 ADF guide? I’m not exactly sure how to use mine effectively.
every f16 flies the same
how do you have 33% win rate with the f16?
by winning 33% of my games, hope it helps
@@DEFYN over how many games?
19 games
@@DEFYN Were you stock? I’m bad but I have a 52% win rate over 90 games. I’m surprised you don’t like this thing.
I didn't say i didn't like it
I got over 2 kills per game, i couldn't have done much more than i did it was just 1v6 every game basically
Hey DEFYN, what do you use to record your gameplay?
shadowplay
@@DEFYN I can never get good quality, it’s always a little fuzzy for me 🤌
Isnt that an f16C? The mlu is a blk25 and thats a c model
Airfield AA should not shoot if there is friendlies in the sky. If they're on the ground it should be substantially hard to get close.
best decal in game
The F-16s flight model is completely broken. It’s not even close to being apex anything. How they got the flight model so wrong is mind blowing. The only thing I can figure is they didn’t want the F-16 and MiG 29 to cut into their premium sales.
Is the ADF and MLU flight prformance the same? I'm about to reserch the american one and it annoyes me that the chinese version is better 😮💨
The only difference is the countermeasures and the ground ordinance
i see f16 i press like
how do ppl play RB the controls feel hard but everytime i watch a video it look like there playing AB
0:50 little voice crack there
They need an American 11.0 fighter premium to trash their win rates
I’ll be honest even if they did, the sheer amount of F-16 and F-14 on the American teams would make it so that plane would likely not be the majority on the team.
這是台灣的嗎🥹
Is this the Taiwanese version of F-16? I see ROCAF on the tail
yes
Well, if you got the Rona.... 1 Video a day?
+1000 social credit.
Play the yak 15p
aim9L in this game is a joke compared to irl or DCS. Its likely unrealistically nerfed because they decided to add it to a 10.0 plane for some unknown reason, and because the mig29 only gets Flare-60M's.
the 14 dislikes are the guys you killed LMAO
I realy disapointed of this top tier. Its sad to say i wasted half of week to grind them, and feel how dogwater it is. It might be better if there wouldnt be ejeculating f14,but i dont know. Gonna stay in 9.7..
6:32 6:31 6:33
New mic? I can hear the difference if I'm right.
Nah setup somewhere else which isn't as echoey
Tone of voice cuz sick might have something to do with it too
@DEFYN well the new setup is good besides you being sick
3 IR misses, gotta remind why that L is in the missile name
....
for those who complains china gets mlu, the win rate says it all xD
The need to please the Asian market i guess....
No patience for top tier. Will be back when they decompress it a bit.
neckbeards from reddit say that chaffs don't work against PD radar, yet in 12:10 seems that its not the case. so how it is?
It indeed doesn't work against PD radars, you see the radar is strongly locked to that guy but the missiles this patch are so buggy
@@ardap3966 maybe it doesn't work against radar but does work against missile? i mean i killed teammates few times with sarh because missile went where it wanted, not what i had locked
idk why guys tall me play Taiwan link use TW F-16MLU they say that F16 is best
J6K1 #19
The J6K is what we call a fantasy in my home.
Trashing premiums and lower tier planes with a skilled pilot in a powerful plane on an OP team (tomcats) is just so sad to watch. :(
They buffed the AA again, airfields are OP as hell now...
AAA is working again :(
That's a problem of chinese players.
That was already pretty common thing - at RU server during prime-time russian teams perform the worst way possible, while others are just stomping them. At EU server during prime-time german (as well as some other) teams perform the worst. God forbid reminding me of US server during their prime-time, these US teams are abysmal.
And then, snail lets ching chong in to our servers closing chinese dedicated client... All these 'jade rod party Xi leadership stike! c-unism strong skill' aka chinese gamers connect to our servers. They go playing their own TT how will russian/american/german/british/etc players do. And since their average skill is noticeably lower, at least as I tell from my experience, the winrate of chinese teams just sucks ass.
I heard nobody was playing on the servers anyways, people were already playing with them.
insanly over hyped plane imo i rather play the F-14 all day
6th view
I seriously don’t know why u lied but that’s the China f-16 shows it when u get a kill
he didn't lie? what are you talking about
Cope.
instead of playing warthunder you should play a real game, like dcs
They are both games tho
Because flying half an hour to an hour to then immediatly get shot down is fun..
@@martijn9568 pov you havent played dcs
but war thunder is fun too
@@martijn9568 doesn’t take that long to get into combat and if that is happening to you then it seems like a l2p issue
Who asked lmao
best in the game for now then something else and so on and so on and so on until they finish air meta will always change,,,
Why china gets the best thing when it comes to US vehicles
kina miss the old prop videos, all these top tier videos are startin to get borring.
“I don’t know what you were smoking, but I want to have some of it.” Yep, Defyn is 100% from the Netherlands.
lol true
I wish you a speedy recovery, DEFYN.
Get yourself some cocoa milk for the winter 🙃
i think airfield AA should be CWIS turrets, so they can't hit targets as far but are better for shooting people who are strafing
The 9L’s were very flare resistant BEFORE the update. They nerfed it for this update which tbh was a good choice. The F-16’s would be absolutely obliterating everything if the 9L’s were performing like they were pre update. And now they can add the 9M’s and just make those perform like the 9L used to.
I think they also had to nerf the 9l's because of the a10 and tram. It was literally near impossible to dodge them at those br's if they ever got a rear aspect shot. If you cut off engine and used 50+ flares the 9L would still track perfectly.
@@kingderpington6082 exactly the performance I was referring to. Was way too good. Would have been too OP .
@@corybrown2197 Yeah im really glad they nerfed it, otherwise it woulda been completely unplayable at toptier.
And here I have people saying that climbing to space doesn't work, even the great DEFYN does it.
Goeie vid man,
Groetjes Belo.
I see ppl complaining about f16 not being agile enough because of the g limiter and here’s what I have to say. F16 is definitely not a bad aircraft rn but it’s just not modelled correctly. Mig 29 doesn’t have a g limiter if not then not as limited as the f16 for sure. For now, f16 plays like a missile boat which can only dogfight when you lose all your speed which is fine but missile boat play style is just boring consider that a f14 can easily do the exact same thing and dogfight extremely well. Rn if you really wanna play the f16 then just get the adf variant or the Chinese mlu. Hopefully gaijin will change how f16 plays
That taunt on the chat at the end on the base camper noob was the best part of the video, shame that AF AAA on props are still working (on some maps at least), every time i kill a guy that camping the AF i call them "noob" on the chat. Also, hope you recover from COVID(i got that shit too).
AA on props is a Death zone barrier
AA in top tier is ACTUAL proper AI shooting ACTUAL projectiles and stuff at you vs a Death Zone where your plane parts lose HP and die
Frrrrr dude, that last bit where the camper was panicking soo hard cus the AA wasn't shooting Defyn down and was desperately rolling around was so fun to watch Xd
That first stage after burn trick would help w the fuel.
Defyn will you make another* video on the poverty plane? The radar is much better plus have the ers help.
Hey DEFYN, will you do a video on the Ki-83?
Hey defyn i was wondering how do i get your wing logo? was it like a previous decal? i already have the new one (looks great btw)
It’s a mixture of two in game decals that he appropriated but Defyn doesn’t like people recreating it on their planes sadly.
"Here's the rewards, if you actually care about such a thing." Tell me you're good at the game without telling me you're good at the game lol. That's what I'm focused on, but I'm also not done with my American tech tree grind yet. I'm doing Russia after that.
"It will not cease to annoy me that bricks like the phantom can out maneuver the f16 on the high end when they by all rights would snap like a twig irl."
I hope you nerds realise that IRL and war thunder are as far removed from one another as snakes and ladders is from putting a ladder on your snakes vivarium.
you need to play the mig21mf/smt right now. the 10.3 bracket is so strong right now
Great gameplay Defyn! I’ve played a lot of the f4ej kai and I’d say you are not using the radar to its full potential. You can bind a key to get a square that locks everything directly in front of you and you can use that to get a fast lock to slave the missile. Second, whenever you are looking above you should switch to the non PD mode of the radar since it doesn’t care about relative speed and you always get a kill with that. Doing those things would have netted you a couple more kills!
The aim7f does not have an inverse monopulse seeker, it wont continue to track the plane after the radar gets spoofed by chaff.
@@Red_Lion2000 to do that you’d have to go backwards and go cold.
You sound kinda cute with rona😳
Get well soon mate, and as always thanks for the great content!! :)
defyn the type of guy to win a headon using the cockpit 9mm
3:31, indeed convenient hahaha