I would still recommend this reel and no they didnt revise it with one. There are aftermarket ones. Daiwa made A PE edition called the gekkabijin air tw and it got a clicker
raWr Fishing you’re actually wrong the aldebaran is cheaper than the alphas on digitaka. It’s better because it’s a whole ounce lighter way more compact lower on the rod and has a clicky drag just to name a few things
Actually I am not that wrong. You are comparing an old legacy reel with a price that have dropped. So the comparison wouldn't make that much sense in my view. But to each of our own! Glad you are enjoying the reel. If they come out with a new updated version, I will consider it! This Daiwa may have sparked the movement for shimano to develop their next bfs reel.
@@rawrfishing so its old and its still better than the alphas? don't think the alphas will cause Shimano to try and over engineer something because the Aldebaran is still better imo, but I do still think they are gonna release a new BFS reel soon. hopefully at least
@@gobybryant1001 hey man, you got the experience with the two reels! i'll take your word for it, but I believe they will release a refreshed version rather than re-engineered version. afterall, anglers are humans. they like new things! small changes can allow them to sell a bunch MSRP rather than dropped prices for being several years old.
Zero turn tension knob. Set at the factory. Made stiff for that reason. Drag star is made of Zaion carbon. Great reel you will enjoy it!! The roro spool has a fixed rotor different than the factory spool rotor that moves in and out. Those bearings are air variety no need to change. The aftermarket spool is just alright but you can throw some really small stuff. Just make sure you turn up breaks because of fixed rotor it will spin faster than factory spool that works well on break setting 6. On roro turn up to 14 or higher. Congrats on your purchase.
yes i read more about it after buying it. i didn't wanna ruin it for myself. I am pretty stoke they tune their reels exactly how I do it. thanks for the tips! I am pretty familiar with the Roro spools as I have gotten one for my tatula. very interesting concept. Too bad it didn't work well on my Tatula. we'll see how it works with this reel. I am assuming you have used it? Once again, thanks! this is one sexy reel!
@@rawrfishing Yes I own the reel and the aftermarket spool. I purchased it when it first came out. Got some time on it so I figured the info would help you out. The roro spool does fit ok just not impressed with the fixed rotor. The factory spool does really well and I use it for most applications. The roro I keep spooled up for small streams where distance is less important or needed. Have fun and enjoy!! We enjoy your content👍👍
thanks man! i totally appreciate the help! I am in the long run for BFS gears and I hope to change the US market one day so that they would carry more BFS stuff! With KastKing and Piscifun battling to have the budget BFS gears in the US might just force Japan to push some of their BFS gears here ;) So any supporters in my movement would help us reach one step further in this journey!
Nice to see it arrived! I'm gonna tell you right now, I don't think you are going to have issues with the line going in between the spoon on this one.The way this reel was made, they made sure to block any space that line could slip into, around the spool. I had a few backlashes on mine with 4 lb fireline crystal, and had no issues. Also, this reel has a zero adjustment tension, set at the factory. You're not supposed to mess with it supposedly. You can mess with it, but it might give you more resistance in turning the knob than a regular reel. I didn't get to use mine that much, just for a little while. So far I landed a tiny 2" bass on a trout magnet with it lol. The rod I had it on was not the best for casting trout magnets, and now I have it on the kuying teton 552SUL. Eventually I'll have to try it out on the 6'0 UL king. I still got to do more testing with it. I ended up landing a few bass with the Scorpion BFS XG, throwin around 4" elaztech finesse worms, t-rigged with no weight, that day.
Its one fine reel! I think the way we bfs anglers tune our tension knobs, is the same way they have tuned it. While I sometimes play dumb on the video set, i already taken a photo on exactly where the notches were lol. And after turning the knob a bit, I was able to conclude that I tune my tension knob for bfs reels the same way. Sounds line you are having some nice fun! Fall bite started for you yet?
@@rawrfishing I'm sure there's fish biting somewhere, I just need to get out of the house. It's been kind of rough for me though, dealing with side effects of cancer meds. It's like I don't feel up to going out , and feel tired and fatigued. Something with those meds is messing with my lungs and causing me to cough like crazy, and I feel out of breath. I have one of those inhalers now, even.
sorry to hear that! my brother, whom yall may have seen in my vids are also battling some cancer. we went snakehead fishing recently and we called it quits early cuz he just couldn't deal with the sun let alone paddling in the swamps. So i totally can see what you are talking about. stay strong my friend!
@@rawrfishing I actually did go out for an hour or 2 earlier, but didn't land anything. Had 2 small pickerel bite, and that was it. Had no horrible coughing episodes this time either.
I knew it! You're going to have a blast with it. Keep the stock bearings if you're using the stock spool. Once you switch to the Roro spool, keep the side plate bearing and switch out the roro bearing, roro bearings are pretty trash. Trout magnet is actually 1/64 oz jighead + trout magnet body.
it's so much fun casting it! already did the cast test (i mean im sure u see the thumb nail lol.. the back ground is water). I know the Roro spool comes with bearings but it's not their SIC Micro bearings. Roro is that bad? I know they are new and all... but i'll fiddle around. May have to go high end JDM ones! really? 1/64 oz jighead and a trout mag body is 1 gram? that plastic must be heavy LOL
@@rawrfishing yea roro micro bearings aren't great. Noisy, gap problems, and rough feeling, not smooth. Yep 1/64 + trout magnet plastic is about 1 gram.
@@rawrfishing hedgehog micro bearings from Japan. The spool bearing on the roro spool is different, the shaft of the spool is thicker than the stock spool.
I have roro spool and prefer it over stock spool for lightest of baits but I also prefer roro fixed inductor vs SV inductor on stock spool for bfs fishing. You'll like the reel regardless, best bfs reel for the money in my opinion (between daiwa, shimano and abu)...you can add 4 bearings to knobs and 2 bearings on worm gear if you're willing to fully disassemble the reel, for total of 12 bearings, same as new steez air tw
You can cast trout magnets with factory spool as well. Just spool up with 2lbs test and the rod choice is even more important to doing this. Teton or Ace Hawk double good choices
that's what I have heard! gotta get them short rods that goes .6 grams rating lol. I can see that 2 lb test line won't be a problem here.. like there is no Gaps between the spool and the reel. no need to fear line going into that!!!!!
I have seen that reel but it's not on the to test list.. Not sure how having a dual braking system would benefit or impact the casting as you now have extra weight on the spool. the spool is 11 grams so it's not that light compared to other reels out there. Lastly the price is a bit steep for a CDM reel. sure it got two spools.. but if i get a reel for BFS, then the other spool is technically useless. I normally look at reels 65 dollars and below unless it's a high demand from my viewers. if there are more people willing to up vote for this, then i can consider it!
I want to express that its all to the help of my fans from purchasing frogs i have sold over the summer! I wanted to treat myself too as I spent most of my personal dollars for baby gears lately. Not to mention, it is my bday month and I have gotten a few gift cards ^_^. Lastly, my viewers also have helped me as well by watching, liking and commenting on my videos. My Channel views and watch is currently all time high! Thank you everyone 🙇♂️
i wonder how you got it from japan lure , im pretty sure i been looking for one for the last three weeks from japan lure and digitaka and its been out of stock
Try JDM Heaven, I purchased a Shimano Scorpion BFS XG and the Shimano Expride. Arrived very quickly. They do appear to be more expensive but great service
If you want a higher end crank and knob up grade look at slp works,they make a bunch of different cranks and knobs that will work with that reel,welcome to the dark side buddy
Its a beautiful reel. Its on my wish list for sure. I would clean the bearings as I found other Daiwa models the bearings are heavily greased/ oiled so just a clean but if you have some Hedgehog Studio BFS Micro bearings swap them in just to try. Enjoy
I am looking at it and it does feel greased oiled. I think i wanna keep it lubricated since its factory stuff. So I will probably just air gun some out. It will make it lighter lubed instead of bare empty. I will need to save for those bearings... expensive. May try some roro first
I think that's impossible lol. I don't think i will take this on the kayak... but who knows lol. I bang up rods and reels when I kayak fish so I am scared to this early lol
Oh it's just 317 dollars after shipping :P i think it's definitely expensive for those who don't have the money. That is why I have flooded my channel with Budget BFS reels from China that works with bearing upgrades!
I won't buy jdm lures as those can be lost easily, but i can consider reels. Not so sure about rods as most rods are technically toray blanks these days... unless I need a super specific technique... i can settle for a mid range typical rod.
If it doesn’t already you could put ceramic bearings and a titanium spool
I got an aluminum one and some micro hybrid bearings. Messing around for fun!
Would you recommend this reel still today...and do they still make the drag clicker for it?
I would still recommend this reel and no they didnt revise it with one. There are aftermarket ones. Daiwa made A PE edition called the gekkabijin air tw and it got a clicker
This reel just looks so nice
Its freaking beautiful 😍
Yezza our jimbo got a new hyper reel🎉🎉🎉😁congrats
Dude this thing is legit awesome
Jimmy. Does this reel have drag clicker? Thanks
No sir! Quiet and smooth!
The aldebaran bfs is better, but this reel is easier to cast
I mean you are comparing a more expensive reel to this one... but lets hear it! What is it that you find better?
raWr Fishing you’re actually wrong the aldebaran is cheaper than the alphas on digitaka. It’s better because it’s a whole ounce lighter way more compact lower on the rod and has a clicky drag just to name a few things
Actually I am not that wrong. You are comparing an old legacy reel with a price that have dropped. So the comparison wouldn't make that much sense in my view. But to each of our own! Glad you are enjoying the reel. If they come out with a new updated version, I will consider it! This Daiwa may have sparked the movement for shimano to develop their next bfs reel.
@@rawrfishing so its old and its still better than the alphas? don't think the alphas will cause Shimano to try and over engineer something because the Aldebaran is still better imo, but I do still think they are gonna release a new BFS reel soon. hopefully at least
@@gobybryant1001 hey man, you got the experience with the two reels! i'll take your word for it, but I believe they will release a refreshed version rather than re-engineered version. afterall, anglers are humans. they like new things! small changes can allow them to sell a bunch MSRP rather than dropped prices for being several years old.
That’s beautiful! Also, still want the zephyr.
The zephyr will be sitting on the shelf for a while lOL
Nice! Been eyeing these 🤣🤦♂️. Have considered letting my aldebaran bfs go to get one 🤣🤣🤣
It would be a nice to add this to your collection!
Zero turn tension knob. Set at the factory. Made stiff for that reason. Drag star is made of Zaion carbon. Great reel you will enjoy it!! The roro spool has a fixed rotor different than the factory spool rotor that moves in and out. Those bearings are air variety no need to change. The aftermarket spool is just alright but you can throw some really small stuff. Just make sure you turn up breaks because of fixed rotor it will spin faster than factory spool that works well on break setting 6. On roro turn up to 14 or higher. Congrats on your purchase.
yes i read more about it after buying it. i didn't wanna ruin it for myself. I am pretty stoke they tune their reels exactly how I do it. thanks for the tips! I am pretty familiar with the Roro spools as I have gotten one for my tatula. very interesting concept. Too bad it didn't work well on my Tatula. we'll see how it works with this reel. I am assuming you have used it? Once again, thanks! this is one sexy reel!
@@rawrfishing Yes I own the reel and the aftermarket spool. I purchased it when it first came out. Got some time on it so I figured the info would help you out. The roro spool does fit ok just not impressed with the fixed rotor. The factory spool does really well and I use it for most applications. The roro I keep spooled up for small streams where distance is less important or needed. Have fun and enjoy!! We enjoy your content👍👍
thanks man! i totally appreciate the help! I am in the long run for BFS gears and I hope to change the US market one day so that they would carry more BFS stuff! With KastKing and Piscifun battling to have the budget BFS gears in the US might just force Japan to push some of their BFS gears here ;) So any supporters in my movement would help us reach one step further in this journey!
Nice to see it arrived! I'm gonna tell you right now, I don't think you are going to have issues with the line going in between the spoon on this one.The way this reel was made, they made sure to block any space that line could slip into, around the spool. I had a few backlashes on mine with 4 lb fireline crystal, and had no issues. Also, this reel has a zero adjustment tension, set at the factory. You're not supposed to mess with it supposedly. You can mess with it, but it might give you more resistance in turning the knob than a regular reel. I didn't get to use mine that much, just for a little while. So far I landed a tiny 2" bass on a trout magnet with it lol. The rod I had it on was not the best for casting trout magnets, and now I have it on the kuying teton 552SUL. Eventually I'll have to try it out on the 6'0 UL king. I still got to do more testing with it. I ended up landing a few bass with the Scorpion BFS XG, throwin around 4" elaztech finesse worms, t-rigged with no weight, that day.
Its one fine reel! I think the way we bfs anglers tune our tension knobs, is the same way they have tuned it. While I sometimes play dumb on the video set, i already taken a photo on exactly where the notches were lol. And after turning the knob a bit, I was able to conclude that I tune my tension knob for bfs reels the same way. Sounds line you are having some nice fun! Fall bite started for you yet?
@@rawrfishing I'm sure there's fish biting somewhere, I just need to get out of the house. It's been kind of rough for me though, dealing with side effects of cancer meds. It's like I don't feel up to going out , and feel tired and fatigued. Something with those meds is messing with my lungs and causing me to cough like crazy, and I feel out of breath. I have one of those inhalers now, even.
sorry to hear that! my brother, whom yall may have seen in my vids are also battling some cancer. we went snakehead fishing recently and we called it quits early cuz he just couldn't deal with the sun let alone paddling in the swamps. So i totally can see what you are talking about. stay strong my friend!
@@rawrfishing I actually did go out for an hour or 2 earlier, but didn't land anything. Had 2 small pickerel bite, and that was it. Had no horrible coughing episodes this time either.
@@sgtpavlov at least you have gotten some fresh air :)
I heard the roro spool the brake inductor doesn't move in and out
yes! their concept is simple.. basically turn the daiwa reels into a regular magnetic reel with out he Mag force braking system lol...
@@rawrfishing just making sure u saw the @reeltests video
I have a roro spool for my tatula ;)
I have a Daiwa Alphas F on my wall from my late friend's collection. I think you'll really like this reel.
Like doesnt even describe how I feel right now lol.... its a godly reel
@@rawrfishing ❤ I don't blame you for sleeping with it.
Wife doesn't know shhhhh....
I knew it! You're going to have a blast with it. Keep the stock bearings if you're using the stock spool. Once you switch to the Roro spool, keep the side plate bearing and switch out the roro bearing, roro bearings are pretty trash. Trout magnet is actually 1/64 oz jighead + trout magnet body.
it's so much fun casting it! already did the cast test (i mean im sure u see the thumb nail lol.. the back ground is water). I know the Roro spool comes with bearings but it's not their SIC Micro bearings. Roro is that bad? I know they are new and all... but i'll fiddle around. May have to go high end JDM ones! really? 1/64 oz jighead and a trout mag body is 1 gram? that plastic must be heavy LOL
@@rawrfishing yea roro micro bearings aren't great. Noisy, gap problems, and rough feeling, not smooth. Yep 1/64 + trout magnet plastic is about 1 gram.
Well at least its better than stock lol. Would be okay on CDM reels, but I will look into some JDM for my JDM reel lol... expensive
@@rawrfishing hedgehog micro bearings from Japan. The spool bearing on the roro spool is different, the shaft of the spool is thicker than the stock spool.
Yeah i know hedgehog. Never tried em due to the price. Cant wait for the spool so I can see it first hand.
Nice reel. Wish it had a drag clicker.
Thx man! I don't mind the silence! I wanna ensure my speech is heard:p
Now you just spoil yourself lol, nice vid👍
Gotta take care of myself once in a while lol
I have roro spool and prefer it over stock spool for lightest of baits but I also prefer roro fixed inductor vs SV inductor on stock spool for bfs fishing. You'll like the reel regardless, best bfs reel for the money in my opinion (between daiwa, shimano and abu)...you can add 4 bearings to knobs and 2 bearings on worm gear if you're willing to fully disassemble the reel, for total of 12 bearings, same as new steez air tw
Sounds like I will have a lot of fun!! I can't wait to play with it more
You can cast trout magnets with factory spool as well. Just spool up with 2lbs test and the rod choice is even more important to doing this. Teton or Ace Hawk double good choices
that's what I have heard! gotta get them short rods that goes .6 grams rating lol. I can see that 2 lb test line won't be a problem here.. like there is no Gaps between the spool and the reel. no need to fear line going into that!!!!!
Yes exactly. The tolerance on the jdm reels are spot on.
Well worth the money!
Welcome to the JDM club. Now you are forever spoiled.
Yes I am but no worries I will still use and test cheappos
Nice purchase brother :) I have the roro spool for this reel and Ill let you know if its worth the upgrade cost in an upcoming spool battle video
Thx my man! I already got it on the way lol. Going to be fun!
Hi, you can reviews kinggdom speedshot .I look forward to it, thank you!
I have seen that reel but it's not on the to test list.. Not sure how having a dual braking system would benefit or impact the casting as you now have extra weight on the spool. the spool is 11 grams so it's not that light compared to other reels out there. Lastly the price is a bit steep for a CDM reel. sure it got two spools.. but if i get a reel for BFS, then the other spool is technically useless. I normally look at reels 65 dollars and below unless it's a high demand from my viewers. if there are more people willing to up vote for this, then i can consider it!
Go for daiwa steez
LOL who's gonna pay for that? If you buy some frogs from me... i'll stash the revenue from you specifically to the Steez pile LOL
Thats awesome! Take a look at the acc crappie rods i bet they would pair up well
Thx man! I think i will have it on my new dragon rod long term unless I will go for very tiny lure cast testing.
Super sick reel, very pricey though.
Its not that bad compared to some of my other reels in the past.
Im surprised you bought an expensive reel.
I want to express that its all to the help of my fans from purchasing frogs i have sold over the summer! I wanted to treat myself too as I spent most of my personal dollars for baby gears lately. Not to mention, it is my bday month and I have gotten a few gift cards ^_^. Lastly, my viewers also have helped me as well by watching, liking and commenting on my videos. My Channel views and watch is currently all time high! Thank you everyone 🙇♂️
i wonder how you got it from japan lure , im pretty sure i been looking for one for the last three weeks from japan lure and digitaka and its been out of stock
Ask directly as I sent a message about a Shimano and they had them even though the website wasn't updated. Japan Lure Shop are amazing.
Thanks , I’ll give it a shot.
I saw it saying last one and I nabbed it haha. It was sold out for a while too...
If you want to buy a reel that constantly sells out, JLS will reserve one for you.
that's good to know!
do you recommend any other reputable sites besides japan lure and digitaka where i can buy this reel?
Try JDM Heaven, I purchased a Shimano Scorpion BFS XG and the Shimano Expride. Arrived very quickly. They do appear to be more expensive but great service
First jdm order ever but I have surfed digitaka before...
asian fishing portal is reputable I believe.
If you want a higher end crank and knob up grade look at slp works,they make a bunch of different cranks and knobs that will work with that reel,welcome to the dark side buddy
Thx man! I will check those out. The dark side is expensive lol... time to sell more frogd
Its a beautiful reel. Its on my wish list for sure. I would clean the bearings as I found other Daiwa models the bearings are heavily greased/ oiled so just a clean but if you have some Hedgehog Studio BFS Micro bearings swap them in just to try. Enjoy
I am looking at it and it does feel greased oiled. I think i wanna keep it lubricated since its factory stuff. So I will probably just air gun some out. It will make it lighter lubed instead of bare empty. I will need to save for those bearings... expensive. May try some roro first
Time to keep away every other bfs reel for awhile
I think that's impossible lol. I don't think i will take this on the kayak... but who knows lol. I bang up rods and reels when I kayak fish so I am scared to this early lol
Not JDM! Made in Thailand.
Apparently so...
thats an expensive reel!
Oh it's just 317 dollars after shipping :P i think it's definitely expensive for those who don't have the money. That is why I have flooded my channel with Budget BFS reels from China that works with bearing upgrades!
@@rawrfishing yeah man thats smart! i just got into the JDM fishing stuff and its no joke!
I won't buy jdm lures as those can be lost easily, but i can consider reels. Not so sure about rods as most rods are technically toray blanks these days... unless I need a super specific technique... i can settle for a mid range typical rod.