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@@LinkoofHyruleBut other UK dominions can become free even in historical paths, restricting using the system that this entire dlc introduced is just completely unnecessary
@@LinkoofHyrule So once again just like every other dominion? Canada can get New Foundland and Labrador, Australia - British Malaya and New Zealand - the whole Pacific and they still can all go independent. There isn't really much of a reason to single out South Africa.
@@LordSandwich27 maybe it was to stop ai from joining germany with its high native fascist support after going free and taking the freebies then maybe the rest of the nations were changed after the fact and they forgot saf who knows
I played SA first for the same reason before I knew the game or had the DLC. I started a fascist communist civil war and then just went into spectator mode
Whoever plays South Africa for fun needs therapy I'm editing this because I realised that I'm the type of person to enjoy a Historical Australia playthrough
I remember trying south africa like 4 years ago and it took me 12 hours and until 1958 to take all of africa. Mainly bc manchukuo took Ethiopia and i didnt try building a navy so i had to go through the mid east and india. Also, for everyone's consideration: I've travelled this old world of ours from Barnsley to Peru I've had sunstroke in the arctic and a swim in Timbuktu I've seen unicorns in Burma and a yeti in Nepal And I've danced with ten-foot pygmies in a Montezuma hall I've met the king of China and the working Yorkshire miner But I've never met a nice South African
Every south African I've met in the US has been a sneering academic type, who also insists south Africa is like, the greatest country, totally! Please ignore the gangs and poverty!
Paradox took the Spitting Image song "I've Never Met a Nice South African" to heart and decided to make South Africa not fun as a punishment to all white South Africans
basically every focus tree needs a rework. but you know those troglodytes will charge for each one. and they won't even be good either, ToA proved that even now they still can't make good focus trees. just play overhaul mods at this point, vanilla is trash
I forget South Africa exists, it's snugly buried between everything, and buried under the UK colonies At least with chile or something it's by the Pacific, which makes it kinda noticeable South Africa is just there... The only nation that's just as unnoticeable is British Malaya (unless you want resorces, then that's the first place you're looking)
This is funny to me, because when I was JUST starting out with HOI4, I played South Africa and Brazil almost exclusively so I could learn the base mechanics/learning the buttons of the game without worrying about much consequence. Why those two? Brazil can become a powerhouse in the region once you take care of it's internal problems and build up the civilian economy/infrastructure. It got even more fun to play when ToA came out which yes, is highly controversial. South Africa not so much, but I played it because it had more achievements tied to it which to a beginner are VERY hard in retrospect. I think doing that though made me better instead of playing a big country like USA or USSR because of the micromanagement and set up is different from something easy like South Africa or Brazil.
Interesting. And I agree. I did the same thing with Mexico and Lithuania(This is going to be LIT). Mexico was training wheels. Lithuania, boy let me tell you that the training wheels come off!
It's bizarre that Paradox decided to include all thes nations in the first paid DLC. It's more bizarre that devs made these weak nations even weaker by adding "contents" to them. You'll have much better experience playing as British Malaya.
I love the choice about Apartheid it gives the player. "So, do you want to keep really, really, really bad racism? Or do you want to downgrade it to just really, really bad racism?"
Dear Isorrow, I believe this path isn't as bad as you make it look like. I tried it and I can say that Air only South Africa is very good with this path (I even managed to get a bit more land after the war). While of course it's nothing too fancy because I am a mediocre player, I do geniunenly believe this is a fun way to play if you prefer doing a bit of a more supportive role
Mr. Sorrow Productions, why don't you ever use the medal system for your units? I always see you with a bajillion political power, when you can make your divisions literally not use supply anymore with just four medals of the same type, and other whacky stuff like that.
I've travelled this old world of ours from Barnsley to Peru I've had sunstroke in the arctic and a swim in Timbuktu I've seen unicorns in Burma and a yeti in Nepal And I've danced with ten-foot pygmies in a Montezuma hall I've met the king of China and the working Yorkshire miner But I've never played a nice South African Focus Tree
Considering that I've seen a lot of Leftist and "Progressives" in America starting to advocate for the same things, you could almost start saying this sentence unironically.
I have actually played as South Africa more times than I can count (on my fingers), I just enjoy liberating Africa under Communism. That being said the focus tree is badly in need of a glow up, and the fact you can't become independent at all if you don't Abandon Westminister seems like an oversight
Waking the Tiger I hate the Chinese focus trees, they suck, it's too restrictive and historical There's also not really much other gameplay, but the focus tree, plus the decisions are sucha muddled mess I get why everyone has a similar focus tree, but still, there's just not much to do there, at least having varied focus trees would've been somewhat fun
Racism? In south africa? Unheard of
Wait…there was racism?????
It never happened.
@@ThemoonsFullofgoons-qn9xl "Was"
This is actually a common misconception, trust me bro.
@@reactiondavant-garde3391 nooooooo there’s never been racism foreign concept does not exist
Other games: racism is bad
Hoi4: racism, it's good for the economy 👍
😂😂😂😂 true
Well this game wont make it onto the wokeism game list. 😅
Also yes thats a real thing that "people" have made.
@@lordmiraak8991 Sigma Game
@@lordmiraak8991 It has women in positions of power.
Thats all it took for Space Marine 2 to make the list.
@@rubman8937 that's hilarious. There's plenty of nutjobs no matter the political affiliations, that's being proven time and time again
Who decided it was a good idea that you just couldn't become free unless you picked one of the focus paths? Who needs to have their brain questioned?
they needed a historical path for the ai to choose in a historical game
@@LinkoofHyruleBut other UK dominions can become free even in historical paths, restricting using the system that this entire dlc introduced is just completely unnecessary
@@LordSandwich27 you used to have SA getting all of africa through a focus then going independent. they introduced it to stop that.
@@LinkoofHyrule So once again just like every other dominion? Canada can get New Foundland and Labrador, Australia - British Malaya and New Zealand - the whole Pacific and they still can all go independent. There isn't really much of a reason to single out South Africa.
@@LordSandwich27 maybe it was to stop ai from joining germany with its high native fascist support after going free and taking the freebies then
maybe the rest of the nations were changed after the fact and they forgot saf
who knows
Throwback to me as a bright eyed new player, wanting to play my country and seeing how shit the focus tree was
I played SA first for the same reason before I knew the game or had the DLC. I started a fascist communist civil war and then just went into spectator mode
Whoever plays South Africa for fun needs therapy
I'm editing this because I realised that I'm the type of person to enjoy a Historical Australia playthrough
Historical Australia gets to fight Japan so it’s definitely more fun than South Africa
That's almost as bad as Democratic Hungary
@Miklos_horthy1939 really ironic of you to say this as I am one of the Democratic Hungary promoters
@@BORLMBK the funny thing is I didn't even interact with Japan in that playthrough lol
I’m South African so I’m required to liberate Africa under communism in hoi Atleast 5 times in my lifetime
At this point Paradox owes you compensation for emotional damages
What did paradox mean by having the economy never get fixed if you end racism
SWEDISH LIES
I knew immediately it was gonna be about one of the Dominions lmao. I’ve tried to play South Africa before and yeah it sucks.
Herobrine
@@markuschristensen2495I, am SHteve
I remember trying south africa like 4 years ago and it took me 12 hours and until 1958 to take all of africa. Mainly bc manchukuo took Ethiopia and i didnt try building a navy so i had to go through the mid east and india.
Also, for everyone's consideration:
I've travelled this old world of ours from Barnsley to Peru
I've had sunstroke in the arctic and a swim in Timbuktu
I've seen unicorns in Burma and a yeti in Nepal
And I've danced with ten-foot pygmies in a Montezuma hall
I've met the king of China and the working Yorkshire miner
But I've never met a nice South African
Every south African I've met in the US has been a sneering academic type, who also insists south Africa is like, the greatest country, totally! Please ignore the gangs and poverty!
❤ 😂😂😂
No he's never met a nice South African, & that's not bloody surprising man
@@elusivemedic5748 Becaause We're a bunch of ignorant loud mouths, who smell like baboons
I don’t care about apartheid, I care about seg-rat-ation.
Ratpartheid
This all sounds like institutional ratcism to me
😂😂😂😂😂
Sounds like skaven mischief to me
Paradox took the Spitting Image song "I've Never Met a Nice South African" to heart and decided to make South Africa not fun as a punishment to all white South Africans
Based
Deserved and true
Paradox if it was Based
Why all white south Africans? Why not all south Africans?
@@Sam-bp2st all the white south africans
Yay, my home country, I hate it. I swear all the Together for victory focus trees need a complete rework, not just a focus here and a focus there.
basically every focus tree needs a rework. but you know those troglodytes will charge for each one. and they won't even be good either, ToA proved that even now they still can't make good focus trees. just play overhaul mods at this point, vanilla is trash
I forget South Africa exists, it's snugly buried between everything, and buried under the UK colonies
At least with chile or something it's by the Pacific, which makes it kinda noticeable
South Africa is just there...
The only nation that's just as unnoticeable is British Malaya (unless you want resorces, then that's the first place you're looking)
Just rename yourself to Hannibal... who is crazy enough to drive TANKS up the Alps? Yes ISP is
As a South African, I'm happy to contribute to this brain aneurysm
I do hope that Paradox takes a second look at some of the earlier DLC focus trees. British Raj could also use some help
Well hey on the bright side at least you can count on your hands how many times you’ve played them, can’t do that for the Congo
Ooph that is DARK 😂.
Experimental facilities.
ISP: keeps racism to buff industry
Also ISP: doesn’t build industry
This is funny to me, because when I was JUST starting out with HOI4, I played South Africa and Brazil almost exclusively so I could learn the base mechanics/learning the buttons of the game without worrying about much consequence. Why those two? Brazil can become a powerhouse in the region once you take care of it's internal problems and build up the civilian economy/infrastructure. It got even more fun to play when ToA came out which yes, is highly controversial. South Africa not so much, but I played it because it had more achievements tied to it which to a beginner are VERY hard in retrospect. I think doing that though made me better instead of playing a big country like USA or USSR because of the micromanagement and set up is different from something easy like South Africa or Brazil.
Interesting. And I agree. I did the same thing with Mexico and Lithuania(This is going to be LIT). Mexico was training wheels. Lithuania, boy let me tell you that the training wheels come off!
this is easily one of the most catastrophic games to come out of this series, i love it
South Africa was acually the first nation I played in HOI III to get started in the game.
Episode 44 of asking to play as Poland, get wojtek, conquer Jan mayen and play as Jan mayen
Day 395 demanding ISP to form Mongolian empire with generic focus tree and minimal mods.
Its not a formable😂
March of the Eagles A-Z when
I got the South africa achievement where you need to liberate the entire continent.
Just had to play till 1975
It's bizarre that Paradox decided to include all thes nations in the first paid DLC. It's more bizarre that devs made these weak nations even weaker by adding "contents" to them. You'll have much better experience playing as British Malaya.
Good job TH-cam notifications. at letting me know a new video from ISP dropped...
2hrs after it originally dropped. Gotta love it.
South Africa:
1) Doesn't know trains
2) Has a railway company
??
What if there’s a focus 2-Z 2 where you play the most fun focuses of every country?
i recently did CK 1 and surprisingly south africa was actually pretty fun
South Africa's Focus tree is a crime tbh.
So many will be trying to 'fix' it after that mod tutorial dropped.
Is there a more relatable hoi4 video than this one for the Og hoi4 players? I think not. The flashbacks of heavy tank South Africa MP haunt my dreams
After this series you should do some more crusader kings and total war videos. Appreciate the entertainment mate.
I once had the British ai mess up so badly that Italy invaded Canada (you're never safe).
We do need a together for victory 2.0 dlc at some stage
Lore of Returning To The Worst Hearts Of Iron 4 DLC momentum 100
Think this has been the funniest game in a while 😁 Thanks
Convoy only
Trains only
Ah yes the resurgence of Pax South Africa be like 🗿👌😎👍❤💙💚💛💜:
South Africa is worse than New Zealand and is the worst of the focuses in that dlc. Arguable to be the worst focus tree in the entire game
New Zealand obviously worse. At least you can ally with Axis to defeat allies and conquering most of afric
9:02 noooooooo
Maybe you should force the AI to do some wacky alternate history paths for your next video
U rlly should do a video forming the african union and getting all cores, it would be one of the worst things you ever do
I love the choice about Apartheid it gives the player. "So, do you want to keep really, really, really bad racism? Or do you want to downgrade it to just really, really bad racism?"
Luxembourg world conquest in Black Ice when?
Dear Isorrow, I believe this path isn't as bad as you make it look like. I tried it and I can say that Air only South Africa is very good with this path (I even managed to get a bit more land after the war). While of course it's nothing too fancy because I am a mediocre player, I do geniunenly believe this is a fun way to play if you prefer doing a bit of a more supportive role
Good stuff
To be honest along with New Zealand I forget South Africa exists
Day 6 of asking ISP to collab with Drew and Alex one last time
Keep going
Bokoen appears dressed as the rat
Only one of them plays the game
True
Who would want to watch that tho? Drew is boring and alex is mouldy
Very nice bro
Have you considered fuel drums for your tanks
South Africa mentioned
I just got some hoi4 dlc
pretty good, cus they're aren't the British Colonies
I only ever play with South Africa as Germany or Italy.
I honestly think democratic south áfrica is not meant to be played with tanks in single player, instead, end racismo and get some mountaniers
Petition for ISP to play Syndicalist Italy/Roman Empire in Kaiserredux Day 90
that's oddly specific
video 4 of begging isorrow to play dawn of the motherland hoi4 mod
rahh south africa!! i do every run on south africa cuz its so fun i love it i only spend 170 hours per south africa save rahhhh
Roll1D2 enjoyer and rimming connoisseur spotted
@@personwithoutabody3236 shh youve blown my cover
YOU RAN AWAY FROM THE SOVIETS
You should play Frostpunk 2
Mr. Sorrow Productions, why don't you ever use the medal system for your units? I always see you with a bajillion political power, when you can make your divisions literally not use supply anymore with just four medals of the same type, and other whacky stuff like that.
Pain
I've travelled this old world of ours from Barnsley to Peru
I've had sunstroke in the arctic and a swim in Timbuktu
I've seen unicorns in Burma and a yeti in Nepal
And I've danced with ten-foot pygmies in a Montezuma hall
I've met the king of China and the working Yorkshire miner
But I've never played a nice South African Focus Tree
i mean south africa was such a progressive country, they even gave black people a special part of the bus and private water foundaints
Considering that I've seen a lot of Leftist and "Progressives" in America starting to advocate for the same things, you could almost start saying this sentence unironically.
@@thenomad47 might have to get either your ears or brain checked lmao, cuz there is absolutely no one in the world saying that.
play the greece reworked mod
Can you win as Germany without taking your camera off of South Africa?
South Africa is a great nation to play as! (In most mods)
good day to hwhach fun map video
I have actually played as South Africa more times than I can count (on my fingers), I just enjoy liberating Africa under Communism. That being said the focus tree is badly in need of a glow up, and the fact you can't become independent at all if you don't Abandon Westminister seems like an oversight
any mods where i can play napoleon? looking for 1700-1800 mods.
Please play the new andorran mod!!!
Pls more Kaiserredux
Mr sorrow please check out the Autumn begonia mod !
How do you keep playing this game
ISP picking historical cause he knows he has to come back and do the alt path for achessements to z
suffering slop man plays south africa!
listen ISP, you call every DLC the worst, so i have no idea which you mean!
Plays world war 2 game
Never once looks at japan
can you check out the new ck3 dlc i found it fun to play
Oh, I've never met a nice South African!
south africa is literally only good in historical mp games with mods otherwise its complete shit
South Africa? Fun? Nah.
Waking the Tiger
I hate the Chinese focus trees, they suck, it's too restrictive and historical
There's also not really much other gameplay, but the focus tree, plus the decisions are sucha muddled mess
I get why everyone has a similar focus tree, but still, there's just not much to do there, at least having varied focus trees would've been somewhat fun
Play mauritania
Give us equestrian at war
afreakya
africa + freaky
Interesting development 😂😂😂😂
yerrrr
Still haven't met a nice south african
What is South Africa again?
@Michałwójcik89 thx
wow
I've never met a nice South African 🎶🎶🎶
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rat
I think you get your independence and then go down the political path?