NEW Renault Megane E-Tech VS NEW MG4 electric hatch
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- NEW Renault Megane E-Tech VS NEW MG4 electric hatch
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One thing you did not mention - the MG has a 7 year warranty and I guess the Renault will only have 3 years
Yes, Renault used to have five years but reduced to three now. :(
Crazy to be reducing at a time when rivals are increasing the warranty.
@@cplockington5670 Very crazy
In UK the e-tech has 5yr warranty, just called the dealership this morning to book a test drive
@@Dawheel90 In Sweden Renault had five year warranty before UK got it. Maybe you get to keep it a bit longer then. :)
I am lucky enough to be getting my Megane E Tech the first week of Dec 22 here in Blighty. It’s a glorious EV in looks, presence and driving. You have really undersold the tech. Google and Android Automotive kick MG tech out of the park, there is just no comparison between them. Speed of response, navigation with recommended charging stops where your battery is conditioned in readiness, watch TH-cam on info screen whilst recharging due to access to Play Store (no phone required) and I could go on. Talking about charging, great if you can get a 130 KWh charger but with 22Kwh charger on board, overall charging experience with what is available in the UK currently, it’s pretty solid in the Megane.
Regen braking with the paddles behind the steering wheel on twisty country roads is akin to down shifting and engine braking as you approach a bend but with instant torque as you power out. It is thoroughly enjoyable. Then there’s fit and finish. Some of the misalignment and inconsistent panel gaps I have seen on MG4 models does not promote quality in comparison to the Megane.
Yes, I am paying around £6,500 more for my Techno model over the top of the range MG Trophy but each and every time I am behind the wheel, I just know it’s an investment that I will revel in.
Answering another comment 5 yr warranty and 8 yrs on the battery with the Megane.
The megane e uses NMC LGChem batteries. That is bad.
11kW charging will fill the battery easily overnight. Instead the MG4 has V2L, you may get the electricity back from the battery to drive electrical devices or use it as emergency powersource. That is much more essential.
Yes and you are supporting workers that get a living wage. I have seen amazing things about what Chinese workers have to go through.
@@jlamm2223443 in the Tesla factory
The Megane E is front wheel drive. The MG4 is rear wheel drive. There is a massive difference in driving experience. All the reviews are praising the MG4 driving dynamics.
Front wheel drive on a ev is a crime, and just shows that the Megane E was not designed from the ground up to be only an ev.
Back wheel drive in snowy conditions…. good luck.
Talking about EV‘ s regarding the change of paradigm and then the so called knock out argument front wheel drive is ridiculous.
I did a test drive with the MG4. It is a fine car…..but…..steering pilot is DANGEROUS. The assistance systems of the Megane are far superior.
Listen to me viking you distracting me from my college work because lord knows I care more about this transition to renewable energy more than school😂😂 Keep up the hard work man but i need some tips because it’s hard to focus when the change to batteries is accelerating everyday
Great video as usual, I have been following the EV trends for the last two years, trying to decided when is the best time to change my hybrid and go full EV. I had a test drive in the MG 4 Trophy a week ago and was so impressed with the car and the diving experience, I ordered one👍
Nice
Same here, but I am waiting to test drive the e-tech before buying
Snap
Cheap Chinese plastic
Love the MG4, all reviews so positive and price blows everything else out of the park.
#L00Ks a lot better than any of the Teslas and on par with the Tesla Roadster 😎
I had originally ordered the ZS, which never came so switched to the MG4 Trophy (should arrive Jan) the price of the trophy is between £31-32k depending on paint options, so not £28k
Never knew so many people bought the MGs
I'm sorry Sam but the Renault does not not brake completely only with e-pedal, same has MG. The MG has better value for money but the Renault is a better car.
Well my friend I would take the Renault on looks any day imo.
It has the more current trend, that the front ends are going for.
I prefer the look of the MG much more :)
@@AB-yt4hd well, hope your wife looks good then :) 😜
Thank you so much for this review, I stumbled across it at the perfect time, both cars have caught my eye but this has really helped me to assimilate the info needed to make a decision.
The Renault is from France. The MG is a state-owned company from China.
Once you get used to regen braking you never turn it off.
100% right - had my EV for a couple of weeks and it’s constantly on. When I go back to my ICE estate car it’s really weird to use 2 feet now!
I am always changing regen level according to traffic and speed. Only time I don't manually control and set it in Auto regen is on motorway highway
Nice
Got my MG4 Trophy coming in a couple of weeks. I also looked at the Megane Etech which is a little better but I'm not paying another £8k for it
Just ordered an MG4 Trophy. It’s basically an ID3 underneath, same factory builds both. Top of the range mg4 about £4k cheaper than th id3
Man I really love to watch your videos! Keep it up! Come to the Tesla shareholder meeting in May 2023!
Excellent review. thanks.
One huge advantage the Renault has is the far better interior, with the Google operating system and bigger and better screens. The boot is also bigger. Some times this this have very importance.
You missed that Megane is also available with a 40kWh battery and 130hp, and also 60kWh with the 130hp motor. The latter called Evolution ER (extended range), at least here in Sweden.
Also, I read that the smaller battery on MG4 is LFP.
The Megane E is front wheel drive. The MG4 is rear wheel drive. There is a massive difference in driving experience. All the reviews are praising the MG4 driving dynamics.
Front wheel drive on a ev is a crime, and just shows that the Megane E was not designed from the ground up to be only an ev.
@@nordic5490 The Megane is designed from the ground up as an EV. It's an EV only platform. There are good reasons for both FWD and RWD. Front wheel drive allows for compact packaging of all the drive train and high voltage electronics in the front, and more trunk space in the back. It also allows for harder regen without risk of losing grip.
@@itekani Other carmakers like Tesla have no problem with the drive motors in the back. And in the front for 4WD. And dont need to cramp up the front of the vehicle with stuff, but have a frunk.
@@vic321344 Nobody said they had problems. Just different preferences, different priorities and different compromises. There is not one single correct way. But in the case of MG4 I think they failed to finish what they started, because there is unused space under the bonnet, but no frunk.
I think the standard range has LFP in UK. The 51kWhr battery has 50.8 kWhr useable , so no buffer. I hope it’s LFP because that’s why I’ve ordered one.
In accordance with my knowledge, U R right. The standard range has LFP battery, but the others have NMC unfortunately.
I am looking forward to seeing MG4 in Hungary. We are hungry for that 🤣... because it is an affordable and good EV.
@@norbithehun Unfortunately LFP just will not fit, until they can get the density higher on a LFP then they are limited to smaller pack
@@gregb1599 Byd Atto 3 long range use 63,8kW LFP battery
@@fiewu34hiuf Yep and how much bigger is the BYD Atto 3? Remember it's just 10kwh bigger on the much smaller MG4!
@@fiewu34hiuf and its 60.8
Great comparison. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
10:30. From the Menu - you can set : AUTOHOLD: ON. (For some unintelligel reason, default is: OFF.)
In Portugal both models are already on sale. I already drove both models.
And what is your conclusion?
MG cant be compared to the megane: the megane has far superior software and driving assistance
I still hope they call me for a test drive in the MG 4 I live in Faro you probably in Porto.
I found the megane e-tech body very round, smooth and coherent. The MG4 is a bit of a mess, the design has no coherence between the front / middle / back.
Both dont look very good. They both sell over the price.
It's pleasing that you have spent some time reporting on comparing different vehicles, even if that means you reference other reviewer's work. There are many car enthusiasts her ( can't say petrol heads!) who are in the market for an ev. Dynamics, NVH, build quality etc are all very important, not just battery size ,type and charging speed
True
Many people hardly ever go weekend camping and a lot of people don't do long distance traveling frequently.
Great comparison. MG is a SAIC brand, so interesting that SAIC is adding more and more MG models in Europe.
I just ordered an mg4, can't wait to get it.
It has actually no competition
Good vidéo. Thank you. Both cars are also for sale in France. For the MG4 price starts at 28990 € with the small 51 KWh battery and goes up to to 34990 for the luxury edition with 64 KWh battery. The Renault Megane E-Tech that starts at 37200 € with the 40 KWh battery and 130 hp engine and goes up to 46990 € with 60 KWh battery, 220 hp engine and iconic equipments. (All prices are bonus excluded)
So clearly the MG4 is significantly cheaper. It is putting the low end version of the Renault EV seriously at risk and at the other extreme of the spectrum the high end version is almost as expensive as the new Standard Model Y which is way better in every aspects (engine power, space, infotainment system, navigation, charging, resell value on the market...). Don't get me wrong : I'm not saying the Renault Megane E-TEch is not a good car. It is. But in term of pricing, it is not well positioned I believe. Sure it is a succes in France right now because it is a car manufactured in France but the competition in other ountries will be fierce.
@Ricky Lo And that's why the French administration is considering restricting the EV Bonus (currently 6000€ for cars under 45000 €) to EVs built in the EU
I just bought a Megane E Tech Iconic. I would never buy a Chinese car if there is a European alternative. Greetings from Holland.
In France, a friend of mine already received his MG4.
On a Tesla, regen breaking is only about 70% efficient. So breaking is a lot less costly but is still costly. That's why my energy consumption is lower on a flat highway than in a city.
I may have missed it but I don't think I heard you mention the difference in the warranties between the two vehicles. I believe this is massive.
The Megane's Infotainment system is vastly superior to the MG4's. It's Google based and is quicker, slicker and responds to voice commands as well as an Android phone. I noticed you glossed over the Infotainment quite quickly. I've seen reviews of the MG4's Infotainment system and it has been found to be unresponsive and laggy.
Thanks Mr Viking for this video....again, the MG4 looks to be a great bargain!
One thing - could you please throw in metric figures as well as imperial? Cheers.
I just saw an ad for $30k electric cars in Ecuador. They are the Skywell EV6 offered on Alibaba by Henan Zhizhou Automobile Sales of China. The vehicle goes by various names depending on country and time period, including the similar-sounding Skyworth EV6.
Mégane E-Tech has more safety convenience , plus bigger boot space as it doesn't have motor in rear . Plus it's lighter hence more dynamic rear view camera fed mirror option.
mg4 has V2L, that means you can get back the power from your battery pack to drive electric appliances or use as a generator for your house. Much more useful than a dynamic rear view camera fed mirror option.
The ONLY thing making me hesitant about the MG4, and its an incredibly picky thing, is the lack of roof bars!! I mean...I want to throw my kayak up on that roof and go play on the water in the summer (for the 2 weeks usable summer we get!!). Otherwise Id have ordered this puppy already (AND its got the shortest lead time of all EV vehicles mean I can get one before my 90th birthday!!).
My local Renault dealer won't get there demo Meagan E in until end of November, I want to have a look ,but don't think I will go for it due to cost, I'm only doing around 8km a year and on a 3 day week got no cash for a new car at these current costs and there's a good chance I won't be allowed a charger due to being on a shared looped supply cable. old 1950s terraced houses , only got a 80 amp inlet fuse and a 60amp distribution board. Old housing was never designed for electric heating and electric cars😥
Can you report on the arrival of the MG 5 station wagon they are supposed to arrive in 2023 can you confirm the towing capacity ?
Geting megane can i use basic 3 pin electric mains socket to charge it can any one advise
Pricewise the MG4 is a no brainer.
Thanks for sharing.
Charging - to do 11kW in Australia you still need three phase. Single phase chargers top out at 7kW. (230V @ 32A)
Same in UK I believe
Nice video as usual...please also look highlight how mg users have to wait for months to get a service appointment in uk. You get what you pay for...brands are associated with quality, service, reliability and so on...maybe the voking should buy a chinese car and drive it....
Maybe this is an old review, but the only car in this section and price range I would buy is the Megane. They got almost everything right with this car. And I already own an EV in this same segment. Tesla has the acceleration but Model 3 is not even close to the same level in ride comfort and you know, in the being a car part. LFP is god awful in our harsh winters. Cupra is a great ride, but doesn't have the quality and the battery system takes a beating in the winter. Add to that the option to slow charge in 22kw in cities, where we have a ton of chargers but not in front of apartment buildings, is a godsend. Never owned a Renault in my life but I like how they stayed right in the sweet spot with everything with this car.
Hi I’m a Taxi Driver in Ireland and I am think about an MG but I am torn between the MG 4 and the MG 5 for a Taxi I would be very interested in your thoughts and advice as ever a great show with sound advice keep up the good work
You can get ev Renault Megane no waiting in Poland it's $35k. NEW MG4 no in Poland, suppose to be next year (2023).
I am considering both cars as they offer almost similar specs and features but a lot of reviews kinda miss that the Magane has Android Automotive built in to the car. That means no more need for a phone connection like android auto. Voice commands for AC, demister, etc. Battery info is connected to google maps so the system computes where to charge and how long to charge just like a tesla. MG does not have that. I tried it and it's AI assistant is just not very good. For a tech person like me I really appreciate that. Yes, MG's price is significantly less but it is also out of stock here in Ireland and the wait time is 6 months.
Since this video was made Renauld have knocked about 4000€ off it's price and, here in France, we get a 5000€ subsidy from the government. This applies to all EU built cars but not third country ones like China. In addition I understand that the MG price has increased by quite a bit. So it would be interesting if the comparisons were done again.
Maybe Mr Stellatis means they won’t be at price parity between their legacy and electric cars ?
First batch of MG 4 in the UK are having serious oil leaks from the reduction gearbox.I cancelled my order as my car was sitting in the showroom with a massive oil leak and it hasn't been anywhere.This is really bad for MG UK.
A superb review from a very fine Motoring Journalists, who takes the very essence of the car and distills it into what makes it great.....Well done!
I've just ordered the Top-of the-Range Megane Iconic model (with that excellent Heat Pump). It was a straight choice between a Tesla Model 3 or the Megane, both were the same price.....No contest! (The MG's boot was too small).
The sterile, poor build quality, horrid interior, ugly Tesla is so dated compared to the Renault. It's tech is so 'yesterday'. Brilliant move by Renault going to the experts, Google!
By the way, Renault say the 0-60 time is 7.5 Seconds. Independent tests have clocked it at 6.9 Seconds (that's Mini Cooper S territory but with that lovely instant torque).......how typically French, underplaying. Unlike the Italians, which always exaggerate!
Couple of corrections about the Megane:
1. 11 kW is still 3 phase. The highest you go on AC per phase is 32A generally, only Zoe went 64A and crazy American standards allow up to 80A, but speaking about Europe, the highest single phase AC charging speed is 7 kW.
2. You generally don't want a 3 phase charger at home, the components are much costlier, the units themselves are much more expensive and if you go DIY it's still a lot of extra work over something you generally don't even use because a 7 kW charge overnight is fine for every scenario barring nuclear apocalypse. That said, what Megane does bring to the table with 22 kW charger (see Zoe experience) is a practical ability to use an EV without a home charger by utilizing public AC chargers which are essentially everywhere so that you can be efficiently topping up while you do your groceries etc. MG4 would practically require a DC charger to do so which are obviously more rare. This also concerns leisure travel in obscure locations that don't and won't have any DC insfrastructure.
3. Megane doesn't have 1 pedal mode, it was intentional design. Renault said they wanted the drivers to keep the muscule memory for distinction between slowing down an stopping completely. But this dosen't really affect efficiency at all, it's just a preference.
The charger components for three phase are not "much costlier". A three phase EVSE capable of 32A is practically identical to a single phase EVSE capable of 32A apart from the extra wiring. Nearly all the negotiation happens on the sense wires (CANBUS). The onboard charger is more expensive and the install cost can be much higher but the Tesla Wall charger V3 is the cheapest EVSE in Australia and it can do single phase or three phase out of the box.
@@mondotv4216 it's not canbus, I happen to be an expert on this topic :)
Three phase contactor, energy metering and RCD are significantly more sophisticated that single phase ones. If that is the case in Australia for off the shelf units, that must be some marketing artifact.
In other reviews I’ve seen the Renault has 2-way charging, which you haven’t mentioned. That could be a deal breaker
Need to check your math on $0.50 braking calculation. WAY too high.
Look i really appreciate the MG, i really do ... but the reality is that the Chinese plants in china use low-payed people that work for minimum wage, i think that is the advantage that China has in this industry at this moment as an entity, but it is an entity that uses the individual without taking into consideration the needs of the individual.
Great video, I'm going to order the MG even though the Renault is better looking
The Trophy is £31k, you're thinking of the SE LR at £28.5k. Also, the LR isn't a "no brainer" it's NCM whereas the SR is LFP which is much better in terms of cycles (2-5x), thermals and numerous other things. The no brainer is the SE.
1:23 Buying a car, is not all about charts, facts. At least for some :)
The MG estate is holding up very well in the UK ,the MG company isnt a start up company its been around for years.
Megane has a silent E and is pronounced Me-gan! It really is in a totally different segment to the MG4, both are great cars, the Megane shares its running gear, battery etc with the Nissan Ariya.
Correct. The 'a' is short.
Great video but... I'm pretty sure that the megane regen won't stop the car, it slows down the car to around 5 km/h
Went for a test drive of ev4 electric seat not working on demo car.Told me all I needed to know.
is being sold in sweden aswell
If specs were displayed in two columns side by side , comparison would be easier for viewers
Yes that would be nice
In germany you get the mg4 comfort (V2L, 64kWh, 135kW, 450km WLTP) for 28.929€ incl Bafa 2023 delivered to your door. The megane e (60 kWh, 130kW, 427km WLTP) costs at least 40600€ (incl Bafa) plus delivery (800-1000Euros?).
yeah but u r soon gonna have the same check as in France i.e. 7k for buying EVs made in the EU and the software is faaaaaaaaar superior in the megane
@@dnap1991 I already calculated the 6k Euro Bafa into the price of the megane, same for the mg4. Software: Lets see a comparison between the two. The megane software is based on google android car, developed by LG. The NMC batteries are made by LG Chem. That is very bad. These types of batteries tend to burn and already caused large recalls for other car companies (GM, VW).
@@dnap1991 Absolutely right for the SW. Renault made the very clever decision to go full Android Automotive in the Renault Megane E-Tech and give up on their clunky, outdated home made infotainment system. This is a very smart move as SW upgardes will keep coming in. It is still not perfect most notably on charging navigation but you can trust that Google will fix this very quickly.
I’d love to get the MG4, but where I live there are over 10 times more public AC 22kw chargers than DC chargers. Which means they’re usually available, while there’s a queue at the DC ones.
So the Megane and the Zoe are the only cars that make sense here if you’re doing long trips.
If MG put a 22kw AC charger in the 4 then I’d buy it in a heartbeat.
Nobody I know would even think about charging on a public 22 kW charger, when there are DC chargers available with 150kW. Nobody has time to wait hours for the 22 kW charger. Its just useful at home, where a 11 kW charger is already enough.
@@vic321344 you’re lucky. Around here there only a handful of 50kw chargers and maybe one 130kw charger. And they’re nearly always occupied, often with a queue.
The public 22kw AC are usually the only ones available.
@@jameshopesemail So you are doomed to wait hours for a charge.
@@vic321344 sometimes.
But usually you’re only about 30 miles short of your destination, so about 30 minutes on a 22kw is enough.
My main use of public charging is on a 230 mile trip that involves about 50 miles of motorway. So my Zoe is usually only needs to charge on the 22 for about 45 minutes or so. And I’d need a break anyway so it’s not that bad.
I’d love if there were more DC chargers for longer trips, but I suspect that’s many years away still.
Waiting on the answer from James Hope.
11kw home charging is not single phase! If you put in a 11kw home charger then it's 3 phase and very slow to charge any EV that does not charge at 11kw or higher, for example the BYD Atto 3 would be charging at only 3.6kw!
Yes, the Megane will only get 7,2kW with one phase. With 11kW onboard charger you'll get 3,6kW with one phase, if you don't have a Tesla. Tesla 3/Y at least can utilize 1, 2 or 3 phases up to 11kW. That's pretty neat.
11kW charging will fill the battery easily overnight. Instead the MG4 has V2L, you may get the electricity back from the battery to drive electrical devices or use it as emergency powersource. That is much more essential.
One minor correction: at 10:37 you say the Megane can come to a complete stop with one pedal driving - it cannot. There is no 100% one pedal driving in the Megane, you will need to press the brake to stop the car completely, so no advantage here.
However, please also note that the care uses regenerative braking when using the brake pedal. I other words: lifting the foot off the accelerator to brake is only for the driver's comfort, he might as well just switch regen mode off so he can "sail" whith his foot off the accelerator and he will still regenerate energy by pressing the brake pedal. This might even be more efficient.
This is a brilliant car. It has fantastic tech
Well in mainland europe there are renault shops everywhere. MG and all the chinaware zero. So it is a nobrainer... i have a kona ev and its great
comparing MG and Megane is ridiculous if u dont take into account the FAR SUPERIOR software and self driving of the megane. Not at all in the same ballpark
The megane e uses LG Chem NMC batteries, the type that is prone to fires and already caused large recalls with other manufacturers. Not at all in the same ballpark
Chinese built cars in the UK are knocking it out of the part at the moment with their value/quality/spec offering.
You could buy both in France too. I’ve tried both and although the megane is good, the value for money is just impossible to beat. The MG4 has rendered Renault EV catalogue obsolete imo.
No domestic properties in the UK has 3 phase electric, so there’s no advantage in the UK for having the Megane. All home chargers are only capable of 7/7.4kW chargers…
Not only will the cost of making ICE cars keep going up, some chips and other parts may not be available at all. It's also not just about cost it's also the ability to see the cars when consumers want EVs.
In uk, quite a few mg 4 has oil leak.
Any comments?
Mg EV Community reports that it is due to an overfill at the factory. Gear oil. Nevertheless that should not happen.
@@vic321344
Thanks.
I am thinking of buying hence watching you're review
Good looking car, reasonable specks, UK, good price, this is why Tesla is lowering its prices in China,real competition.
Charging at home, 3 phase domestic electric is virtually non existent in the uk, so home charging will in reality be similar.
Overall I do agree with the conclusion as that is a big price difference. That being said I do think that faster home charging will become more and more important as ev adoption ramps up. Double plug home evse is very expensive but if you have 2 evs both with faster L2 charging you can do with just one plug and save that money.
It will if you have the ability to do the faster home charging. I have a 7Kw charger, had it 8 years now, come home plug in, go about my evening and in the morning the cars charged. I don’t know how long it took it just ‘happens’
u get 7k check in most EU countries to buy an EV made in Europe, there u go
I have a Zoe and I don't have a home charger so I rely on the 22kwchargers in my area. This made it a viable option. That is the only thing that puts me off the MG but I will keep an eye on it. I'm sure it could be upgraded in time.
@@stevenbarrett7648 22kW homecharging is useless. 11kW will fill the battery easily overnight. Instead the MG4 has V2L, you may get the electricity back from the battery to drive electrical devices or use it as emergency powerrsource. That is much more essential.
@@vic321344 thats a really important point. so less to buy and more versatile, sounds like the winning formulae to me
Aryia is much larger than Mégane (more efficient larger range than MG4), and won award this year in UK! Not that I believe in some of the awards independence! Esp in USA
The lowest spec has the LFP battery much better as you top it up to 100%
Correct. The LFP battery is effectivly higher capaicy that the kwhr spec suggest
So, why aren't any Chinese EV's on sale in the US?
I regularly follow your channel. Good information. However, it would be nice if you left your studio and evaluated some EVs. Perhaps you can explain why you don't do this.
Similar tech? No.. not even close.
I choose the renault
If the comfort of the Megane is anything like that of the Zoe ZE50, and the efficiency is better than the MG4, then I'm sold on the Megane. It also looks much better than the MG. I've no issues with front wheel drive, and find it to be much better on slippery surfaces than a rear wheel drive car. All wheel drive is clearly the way to go for best all round traction, when roads are slippery, but for most of the time the added costs are not worth the return.
The Renault uses Google straight out of the box and is superior in terms of UI. The drive quality is apparently amazing also. Might be time to update this video.
dont forget in EU u get 7k discount for EVs made in Europe...
This comparison is not only spot on, but also triggers some questions. Are Chinese cars safe, or are driving data downloaded to China? Does MG cover their costs, or are they subsidied in a long term scheme to build scale? Will Western car manufacturers seek import protection?
There is very little profit in a gas car. Ev's are more profitable and will allow much greater margins for price reductions in the future.
There are too many parts in a gas car in the past a car company made these parts in-house the profit was put on the finished car price. Today, parts are made under sub-contract and have profit added before delivery to the car manufacturer. When this is all added up to the final price of the car there is little room to add a profit, hence the gas car companies are going broke.
And... most important : MG4 have 4 years longer guaranty
They don't have to be concerned... all they have to do is to be less greedy and lower the profit margin.
It is turning out that European auto manufacturers are as far behind on the transition as US legacy auto manufacturers.
It would be interesting to know how much profit does MG per vehicle sold.
We know for shure that renault does not make any profit with the megane e.
The finish on the Renault is better but the ergonomics are terrible. The seating position is really low, space in the back is tiny, 4 storks coming out behind the steering wheel with switches from the early 90s. Renault Zoe is a much more ergonomic car and a similar size. MG 4 is exceptionally good and I'd buy one of those every time or an Atto 3.
I'm just not sure I can trust the mg4 won't fall appart while im commuting up the m20 to London. Laybor is so cheap out there, they work so hard & fast miss QC standards and then get a bowl of rice as pay, not very fair to support the mistreatment of MG workers IMO
Kind of strange that a Chinese car has better driving dynamics than a European.
All electric cars regen when you press tje brake. Brake pads only come into play when regen doesn't provide enough deceleration of itself
You forgot one "small" comparison detail , the megane looks wayyyy better
There are two factors you didn't consider. Firstly the World geopolitical turmoil which couldl lead to difficulties in getting spares and warranty repairs undertaken for the MG4 . It could also make an investment in a MG4 a bad choice. Secondly what is the efficiency and gross weight of each car? Renault has learnt that light weight EV's are more efficient and the Megane is much lighter than most similar cars resulting in it needing a smaller battery (even less weight) . The MG4 is a very good car but I would only consider purchase on a PCP deal, let someone else take the geoploltical risk.
Think there is about 30-50kg difference. Wouldn't call megane 'much' lighter
A pity both cars still look like old ICE age cars.
That might appeal to some, but come on, it's like as if they made the first desiel trains to look like steam trains, or the first iPhone look like a Nokia 3010🙃.
EVs are a revolution! They should reflect that in their design.
That's why I think the Teslas are still the only (mass production) EVs out there that actually LOOK like EVs.
I'd be out there buying an MG4 as soon as they come out here, but I'd feel like I was driving around in a Corolla or an old Mazda 3 (obviously I'm just refering to the looks, not the power source).
There's no doubt MG4 is going to seduce a lot of people who cannot afford to pay 40000€ for an EV. Not the best car, but the price is very very agressive. Well, you just need to cross fingers to avoid any major breakdown...what a poor aftersale network they have in Europe. I think it is like a bet : sometime you win, sometime you lose...
You can’t buy the Renault without going through Renault leasing or pcp agreement. Cash purchase not available . Has also no heat pump in uk . Drives well enough but price 10000 pounds more than mg
Mine is cash purchase.
I love your channel, but I don't agree with you one the EV built from the ground up = that's why it's efficient topic. The e-Niro built on the 2018 "shoehorned EV" tech is still one of the most efficient EVs out there. 4 years later. ...with pretty much everything else being an EV built from the ground up.
Also Hyundai Ioniq which is only beaten by Tesla Model 3. But you get less compromises in general with a pure EV. Next time you see a Niro EV/e-Niro, look underneath. The battery pack is 5 cm lower than the rest of the car. 🤔
@@itekani I see one quite often as I drive one 😁 Still waiting for the tech that wipes the floor with the old e-Niro in terms of size/range/price combination. This MG4 is a good start, but it's only cheaper because MG doesn't have a good name yet I think.