Goosebumps erupt when I listen to this. When the individual mind withers, what one has is the univeral mind. Can one operate through the universal mind ? Will there be universal mind when humans are not there ? Is the universal mind the sum total of individual human minds ?
One is _always_ operating through the universal mind. (And that mind includes operating through the limited human mind.) Yes, the universal mind is all encompassing and isn't limited to the human mind. No, we could call the sum total of individual minds the human collective consciousness (which is merely a small part of the universal mind).
The 'big bang' is still happening. The human being is the tip of that outward explosion of that big bang (In the everlasting Now). The movement of that explosion is now IN the human mind. The problem arises when the human only uses his mind for matters of self concern. (ambition, pleasure etc) The petty human mind is not the universal (big bang) mind. Observation without the Observer happens when the petty human mind takes a back seat. When the petty, annoying, disturbing, agitated human mind is quiet, then the universal mind will take a chance and reveal its truth. Judging that its truth will be acknowledged for what it is, and not interpreted as another ego trip. If that happens then you will know you are in touch with 'god' - - - if you want to call it that.
What makes you think there is a beginning. Maybe man is just a universal River and in synapses of consciousness he jumps in and jumps out throughout time. The river is disrupted only upon man’s entry & exit.
Why is it a 'mistake'? Perhaps it's exactly the way it's meant to be? The Divine hides from itself in seemingly separate forms - like us, and then re-finds itself through us. We are 'the million masks of God'. No mistake involved.
According to Ramana Maharshi the Mind is, in reality, only consciousness, because it is pure and transparent by nature: in that pure state however, it cannot be called mind. The wrong identification of one thing with another is the work of the contaminated mind. That is to say, the pure, uncontaminated mind, being absolute Consciousness, on becoming oblivious of its primary nature, is overpowered by the quality of darkness (tamas) and manifest as the physical world. From page 21 of "the collected works of Ramana Maharshi".
Krishnamurti went extraordinarily deep into the human psyche. But from the way he talks there are obviously still unanswered questions. According to David Hawkins, human consciousness can be calibrated from the lowest to highest awareness of itself from 1 to 1000. Jiddu was highly enlightened, truly one in several millions come like him that achieve such enlightenment. But according to Hawkins, only a handful of humans throughout the entire history of humanity have reached the absolute peak of 1000, whereby all questions dissolve permanently into the utter absoluteness of eternal enlightenment. According to Hawkins, two of those humans were Jesus and the Buddha. In such a state there are no questions left to be asked, as the final doorway of the last burning question of duality is walked through and the ultimate truth is all that is left. This is all according to David Hawkins. I recommend reading him to anyone interested. He’s profoundly wise.
I would say that Jesus actually didn't go all the way beyond the illusion of duality, as he saw god as the father and that is conditioning of his mind as he was born into Abrahamic religion. I think K went deeper that that and saw the illusion of separation even in the most profound mystical experiences. It's not that his questions are unanswered, he is pointing our questions back at us for us to inquire and see if we can find out for ourselves.
I always love "doc" but what I realized is he is stuck with comparisons, krishnaji implies that reality is beyond thought or beyond words. There is no step by step, to point it out is to look at this life without judging or comparing to anything, he calls it " choice less awareness " he further clarify it in his message as " the observer is the observed" I have devoured doc's books and audio from Audible also youtube, loved his auuuuummmmm!
David Hawkins writing on non duality is great but his calibrations are bs, I’ve some friends who believe in this and I have proved to them the test is bs. Hawkins himself in one of his last lectures said he regrets publishing the map of consciousness because people turned it into ego game about points and that was not his intention.
Who cares what Hawkins has to say he doesn’t have it anyways and neither does krishnamerti because to have it means there is no mystery to life. Krishnamerti was that way because he made the observation at a young age that I will not know so why not observe everything like the jewel that it is. He is not enlightened rather he is unconditioned. Man has 1 way of seeing. All this levels is crap, its dogs barking. To be like him you just have to live by the heart which these reductionist have no means of getting to.
Goosebumps erupt when I listen to this. When the individual mind withers, what one has is the univeral mind.
Can one operate through the universal mind ?
Will there be universal mind when humans are not there ?
Is the universal mind the sum total of individual human minds ?
One is _always_ operating through the universal mind. (And that mind includes operating through the limited human mind.)
Yes, the universal mind is all encompassing and isn't limited to the human mind.
No, we could call the sum total of individual minds the human collective consciousness (which is merely a small part of the universal mind).
Wonderful 👍👍
Good video! Thanks.
What if particular mind end ? What happens there ? Tears in eyes & heart, zero ego, helplessness, a touch, a feel of Love & compassion in emotion ♥️
The 'big bang' is still happening.
The human being is the tip of that outward explosion of that big bang (In the everlasting Now).
The movement of that explosion is now IN the human mind.
The problem arises when the human only uses his mind for matters of self concern.
(ambition, pleasure etc)
The petty human mind is not the universal (big bang) mind.
Observation without the Observer happens when the petty human mind takes a back seat.
When the petty, annoying, disturbing, agitated human mind is quiet, then the universal mind will take a chance and reveal its truth.
Judging that its truth will be acknowledged for what it is, and not interpreted as another ego trip.
If that happens then you will know you are in touch with 'god' - - - if you want to call it that.
Time and identity have one thing in common and that is measurement a human construct. Measurement is the source of conflict throughout humanity.
An excerpt from " the ending of time" if you want to understand more.
good one
What makes you think there is a beginning. Maybe man is just a universal River and in synapses of consciousness he jumps in and jumps out throughout time. The river is disrupted only upon man’s entry & exit.
Why is it a 'mistake'? Perhaps it's exactly the way it's meant to be? The Divine hides from itself in seemingly separate forms - like us, and then re-finds itself through us. We are 'the million masks of God'. No mistake involved.
According to Ramana Maharshi the Mind is, in reality, only consciousness, because it is pure and transparent by nature: in that pure state however, it cannot be called mind. The wrong identification of one thing with another is the work of the contaminated mind. That is to say, the pure, uncontaminated mind, being absolute Consciousness, on becoming oblivious of its primary nature, is overpowered by the quality of darkness (tamas) and manifest as the physical world. From page 21 of "the collected works of Ramana Maharshi".
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Its freewill
Admit it Jiddhu: it's God you are talking around
Yess but it cannot be named.
To heavy stuff!
Krishnamurti went extraordinarily deep into the human psyche. But from the way he talks there are obviously still unanswered questions. According to David Hawkins, human consciousness can be calibrated from the lowest to highest awareness of itself from 1 to 1000. Jiddu was highly enlightened, truly one in several millions come like him that achieve such enlightenment. But according to Hawkins, only a handful of humans throughout the entire history of humanity have reached the absolute peak of 1000, whereby all questions dissolve permanently into the utter absoluteness of eternal enlightenment. According to Hawkins, two of those humans were Jesus and the Buddha. In such a state there are no questions left to be asked, as the final doorway of the last burning question of duality is walked through and the ultimate truth is all that is left. This is all according to David Hawkins. I recommend reading him to anyone interested. He’s profoundly wise.
I would say that Jesus actually didn't go all the way beyond the illusion of duality, as he saw god as the father and that is conditioning of his mind as he was born into Abrahamic religion. I think K went deeper that that and saw the illusion of separation even in the most profound mystical experiences. It's not that his questions are unanswered, he is pointing our questions back at us for us to inquire and see if we can find out for ourselves.
I always love "doc" but what I realized is he is stuck with comparisons, krishnaji implies that reality is beyond thought or beyond words. There is no step by step, to point it out is to look at this life without judging or comparing to anything, he calls it " choice less awareness " he further clarify it in his message as " the observer is the observed" I have devoured doc's books and audio from Audible also youtube, loved his auuuuummmmm!
He is 100 percent correct, truly enlightened .
We can't understand him completely with our distracted mind.
David Hawkins writing on non duality is great but his calibrations are bs, I’ve some friends who believe in this and I have proved to them the test is bs.
Hawkins himself in one of his last lectures said he regrets publishing the map of consciousness because people turned it into ego game about points and that was not his intention.
Who cares what Hawkins has to say he doesn’t have it anyways and neither does krishnamerti because to have it means there is no mystery to life. Krishnamerti was that way because he made the observation at a young age that I will not know so why not observe everything like the jewel that it is. He is not enlightened rather he is unconditioned. Man has 1 way of seeing. All this levels is crap, its dogs barking. To be like him you just have to live by the heart which these reductionist have no means of getting to.