Travis isn't the best rapper, but he'll always give you a new experience every release and that's what makes me a huge fan of him. Utopia gave me something I didn't ask for or let alone even expected. While it's not perfect, it still succeeded.
Parasail is 100% about the Astroworld tragedy. When you listen to it with that in mind you feel it so much more. His shouting representing the performance, ending with a growl signifying death. The sirens after sounding like the ambulances. And Chapelle saying "I forgive myself" demonstrating Travis' struggles after the tragedy. Song is a masterpiece
MY EYES is a damn near perfect song. would have loved to hear Sampha a bit more, or Frank Ocean on the high pitched part in the first half, but Travis made a masterpiece with that one
My Eyes is definetly #1 for me off this album. That second half of the song is just perfect. Til further notice is a close second just because of how good JB is.
“if only they knew what scotty would do to jump off a stage and save him a child” legendary bar, legendary artist. travis doesn’t miss and birds gets way too much slander.
I don’t listen to Travis for lyricism, his music puts you in a trance or takes you somewhere. He puts a lot of effort into the production and features don’t feel like they’re only for the sake of it. Utopia better than Astroworld for me
I never really try to dig deep into albums to figure out if I like them or not. I don’t know much about good production, or beat switches that are great, or even lyrics that would be considered impressive. All I know is the feeling I get when I listen to music that has a profound effect on me.
Beautifully put. If I am to dig extremely deep, I must be intrigued with a certain part or sumn but I love mystery and just let the music course through me, if it ain't right, it ain't right.
my theory on the theme of utopia is that he finds the most happiness in his original dark production that he did in his earlier days and in the album it’s shown that utopia is where you feel happiest and i think that the cover being very similar to the original rodeo cover supports it and the fact he had production credits on nearly every song
Yeah no. I don’t think Travis has enough activity in his brain to think that one up. I’ve been a fan for 8 years but cmon, we’ve seen the apology video. Bro is more hollow than a sea shell.
@@SolaceWhore There's a lot of people who don't articulate themselves well and come across really hollow but they have a lot of shit going on inside their heads.
@@SolaceWhore that wasn’t an apology video. that’s just what people labeled it. Travis is a creative genius, don’t really see how you can call yourself a fan if you view him as a brainless hack.
I think travis hit the nail on head with it being named utopia, i get this is supposed to be a TRAVIS SCOTT ALBUM, but i think the point is that he took all the things that made him happy or made us all happy and relived these moments in a travis way
I think Travis did great with the content. Many people say he says nothing, but many of the cuts here talk about the good life in such a grimy way, that it's inspiring and sad at the same time. Take for examples, My Eyes, Thank God, Telekinesis, Fein, Hyena, Circus Maximus, Lost Forever, Sirens, Till Further Notice, Love. When one can feel that they relate to the lyrics both in an inspiring and depressing way, that is good content for someone who is heavy in the trap genre. Plus, even in songs where he isn't saying anything, the production and song structures make the songs very enjoyable. Maybe I'm just a big Travis fan, but I do think this project is the most unique and fulfilling project in his discography.
@@vocecaiunocontodomalakoi7541 Thats just a better song. Probably his best honestly. When I say beautiful, it’s mainly production on the first half. Ethereal, atmospheric background to go with the soft melody/tone from Travis/Sampha. The rapping on the 2nd half is the icing on the cake in making a very complete track
Man I've been a huge Travis fan since days before, and I can really say that this is probably the first time since rodeo that I've felt this happy after a Travis release😩
Astroworld was fire, but it's like Shawn said its mostly feature driven, so I felt a lot of distance between me as the listener and Travis. Utopia was a lot more personal, felt like he didn't leave room for any more to be desired on his part. He kept me fed throughout(pause😂)
The "Circus Maximus" cut of the album feels a lot more concise (albeit, it omits Lost Forever). Cuts out a lot of the fat and makes it feel a little more consistent.
I liked utopia but I also felt like at times the main thing holding it back was travis himself and his performances. He brought together this production that at times sounded very high concept and experimental, but didn't really elevate his approach to rapping to accommodate those beats effectively. It also doesn't help that he doesn't talk about much on utopia. The album still feels kinda shallow given the 5 year wait and all he had been thru. To me it kinda feels like those big chocolate sculptures. When u break into it you expect it to be filled with a bunch of other treats, but this one felt a LITTLE hollow. Still a good album tho
everyone disrespects birds. understandable tho cuz everyone compares it to travis’ other albums, being rodeo, astroworld and utopia. birds in itself is an amazing album imo but it’s the worst out of the 4, so that’s probably why so many disrespect it
I think we can all agree that Travis hasn't missed when it comes to full length projects overall. Matter of which one you like better is a reflection of you really
Bro needs to give Birds another listen. THE ENDS, WAY BACK COORDINATE, THRU THE LATE NIGHT, classic after classic. Travis had way better lyrics and these songs are way better than most of Astroworld and Utopia
I feel like that applies to Utopia more than Birds but thats just me. Birds definitely has a dreamlike quality to it, but almost everything on Utopia sounds far more nightmarish.
This reminds me of when astroworld first released. The older fans of him liked it some people hated it cause it didn’t sound like the last album or it “wasn’t mainstream like his last” or “he was experimenting too much” and here we are 5 years later everybody’s saying the same thing it’s crazy 😂😂
@@kuri5943eh idk. I feel like the newer fans hated this album because they expected an astroworld 2. If you’ve been listening to travis for awhile I would be surprised if u didn’t enjoy this album.
I notice everyone who might not love it was expecting a second Astroworld since that’s where he got most of his new fans. Same with Kendrick. So many expected another Damn and didn’t get that, and are disappointed they didn’t get it. Which I understand to a degree. I myself expected to hear those psychedelic trap bangers. Another No Bystanders, Butterfly Effect, etc. But I’m honestly a bit glad I didn’t get that here. It easily could’ve just been a repeat, and instead Travis challenged himself to give us something we weren’t expecting to hear. And i personally don’t understand it being inspired by Kanye stuff/Yeezus being a criticism. Travis has clearly always been inspired by Kanye. I don’t disagree that some things clearly sound like Yeezus records, but we have to stop acting like him being around Kanye most of his career isn’t why this is prominent on like 5 songs. At least it’s not the entire album. But it’s definitely there. It’s still very much Travis on here. There’s More Owl Pharaoh, and Days Before Rodeo than Yeezus to me personally. But people who just started paying attention with Astroworld won’t get that. The same way there’s a lot of section.80 on MMTBS, but new listeners don’t know that. EDIT: Whether or not you liked Kendrick’s album is irrelevant here. I’m only bringing it up because it’s very reminiscent of what happened during that time. People had an idea of what the next would be because of the last. That’s all I’m talking about.
I was expecting another Rodeo.. and tbh this is the most he’s actually rapped in a WHILE - but I’m still struggling to connect with the album., it’s good - but IDK im just not feeling it.
Nah I was expecting him to actually up his rapping substance and talk about the very real shit that happened at the Astro world festival and actually be interesting but mf just rapped about the same shit again basically not saying shit he’s like an uninteresting Kanye
Travis albums/mixtape rankings: 1. Rodeo 2 Astroworld 3. Utopia 4. Days Before Rodeo 5. Huncho Jack, Jack Huncho 6. Birds In The Trap Sing McKnight 7. Owl Pharoah 8. Jackboys
After looking at the album credits for Yeezus it turns out Travis is only credited for like 3 songs on the album. Also with Utopia, Travis worked with a lot of the same ppl that Kanye used on Yeezus so maybe that’s why some songs sound so similar
@@noxazamiaeven if he was as heavily involved as you say (which he wasn't) wouldn't that just mean that songs like circus maximus are carbon copies of ideas he had 10 years ago? It just don't seem all that creative
@@eassahagyemang815 firstly they are still very creative ideas, but my angle is , he didn’t have to implement that creativity as big as he is , in a time where modern music / hits is soo formulaic. He could’ve literally gotten away with astroworld 2 with a bunch of hits (no discredit) but he chose to go absolutely left and made songs from actual concepts instead of beat packs from the biggest hip hop producers. Thats why I credit this new album so much and give it high regard. It also makes way for other aspiring artists to consider a more creative route as ye did for travis fr fr, instead of trying to make tiktok hitters to blow up
I think that Travis Scott is at his best when hes doing production on most tracks of his album. Thats why Rodeo is his best album and why Utopia is his second best. My opinion
way back, the ends and pick up the phone are all incredible imo. my honest opinion is that birds is a great album but just gets a bad wrap because it’s compared to all of travis’ other albums, which are impeccable. (mainly rodeo, astroworld and utopia)
Felt like an empty/hollow attempt to recreate a Kanye album. The extravagant production lead absolutely nowhere. Does Travis even have a personality or have anything to say other than he wears designer and nails models?
I feel like the purpose of drakes outro on sirens is meant for people who listen to songs like modern jam and feel lost and unhappy with the album so far (the listener being the girl) and drake reassuring utopia is amazing.
love how in that airin producer bar drake did on meltdown the sound he makes also has a double meaning. since the sound he makes can be interpreted as the gun airin out or like a film reel on play.
fr i know anything sounds better with drugs but i really think the people that don’t like it need to take psychs or just smoke a lot of weed and just vibe to the whole thing to really absorb and soak in the soundscape and subtle narrative of the whole album
I like the album. But I’m hungry for Kanye content. So 🤷♀️ I guess that’s to be expected. But I agree, this album did make me appreciate some of Ye’s earlier albums that I did not like/appreciate at the time he released them.
That astrothunder take is one of the most appalling tales I’ve ever heard that’s a top 5 if not too 10 Trav song of all time and my personal 3rd favorite song oat
*For me the album got better after repeat listens* but… it’s still not clicking with me in the ways his previous albums have.. it’s not bad or “mid” it just doesn’t evoke anything beyond me thinking it’s good which disappoints me.
@@AliFrankTheTank Telekinesis was a Kanye leak featuring Travis Scott, named Future Sounds, which is where Travis got the background melody from. If you want to find it look up Kanye Heaven and Hell GOAT Version. I've never had sex but I can imagine it feels like listening to that.
you think you ate so much with that caption. You wrote that description and jumped giddy with excitement. You wrote that description and I guess the real treasure was the friends we made along the way
Bro i swear to God. I love Kanye too but people online that reverse him so much are wildin. If Kanye was dropping verses like the ones on HYAENA they would be losing their minds and calling them verse of the year
@@user-ds5lf3he3x thats fair but the thing is he does have bars, its not like traditional hip hop bars tho like smg u wud experience from kendrick or witty wordplay from MF Doom, its lyrics that go with the aesthetic/sonic presence of his music, dark and horror core driven. Once u understand that u will gain an appreciation of scotts lyrcism trust me. i went thru the same thing. also he did go deeper talking abt fatherhood, the astroworld casualty, he dropped some quotables, basically wut im saying is he does have lyrical talent, or else he wudnt b as famous as he is, but thats not his strength ur right, its his production/aesthetic which draws viewers like us.
@@aldrianspalding4157 the reason why I say his bars aren't the greatest is because they rarely ever turn into extended ideas. Like with the astrofest incident he just dropped it and like 2 lines later it was completely about something else. He isn't the best at holding a concept for a song he just kind of sprinkles in parts of the concept randomly.
It's crazy that all Pusha T had to do was drop that track and just sit back cause after that, the same rapper that was calling him irrelevant is still talking about him 5 years later
I just think it is baffling how people are criticizing this album, like have you heard other rap releases from this year? This is far and away the most progressive and risk taking rap project this year. And whether you like Travis or not as a rapper the production is insane. He is trying to do something different and gets cut down for it. Meanwhile other rappers can drop the same song on the same beat and some critic out there will say it is a classic.
Lol I could think every rap release in the past 10 years was bottom of the barrel garbage and it still would not stop me from calling a mediocre album what it is. I am not going to evaluate art based on how bad everything else is. Scaring the hoes is more experimental than this, and I don’t even think it’s actually high on that scale. And please explain what exactly is or experimental about this? I listen to a lot of experimental stuff and this isn’t. People (or critics at least) don’t dislike it bc it’s ‘experimental’. It’s the opposite. Travis doing the same shit that Kanye, Frank, Industrial scene artists, James Blake, or Bon Iver, or even himself did years ago is not experimental, it’s just inspired. I’ll give you the risk-taking part, but that’s it and only merits a nod to Travis himself, not the art which still must be evaluated. Experimental indicates some level of genuine groundbreaking novelty in the scene. Imo, the replay ability is low, Travis lacks character/substance, and y’all have been starved for so long that the recency bias is penetrating your psyche. I genuinely believe that most of the people glazing this album (as in 10/10 “instant classic”, not 7/10 or whatever) have a narrow music palette and over saturate themselves with mainstream crap or underground crap that’s imitating mainstream crap. Also the mixing/mastering was def a step down from previous works. This was not an attempt to change your mind, I respect your subjectivity. But you said the criticism was baffling so I attempted to give more insight.
@@assata5174I recommend you go back to travis origins. He ORIGINALLY was working with kanye and had a similar sound to him. This album he goes back to his roots which is way more unique then his generic mainstream sounds over the past five years.
Thank you for making amazing content through out the last few years. Unlike other people, I respect your opinions and enjoy your takes on different music, albums, and different tastes. On my free time. I know you will never ever respond to this comment. Which is fine. Just like me keep working hard and keep grinding. Remember the grind never stops. Just work very hard and extremely hard and grind. Enjoy both albums. And I look forward to new content, and possibly a interview that you can do with a big name artist next year, if that something that you are interested in. One day, I will invite you as a guest speaker, but of course when that time comes than. If you respond I would be highly appreciative. But if you don’t than that is fine. Enjoy both albums. And looking forward to new content.
Album gives me rodeo vibes and it’s all I wanted from Travis, interesting production and some energy, remove like 3 stinkers and this easily second best in his discography (thank god is soooo hard😭)
Respect the idea of Astroworld being more feature based and just a different album then Utopia. Astroworld’s features are what makes it memorable (to me) where as Rodeo and Utopia (like Shawn said) are Travis first with supporting features. Not the other way around like Astroworld
I don’t get the hate Travis gets as a ‘rapper’. Just because he doesn’t give you double or triple entendres every bar doesn’t take away from his flow etc. I personally have him in the goat conversation because his production and project quality along with his (in my opinion) excellent vocals elevates him to the S tier
His lyrics be so surface level but the production is so deep. It clashes. That’s my opinion of it. The flows Are cool but on a beautiful ass beat I don’t want a generic verse. Maybe get a regular beat for the regular bars.
it’s because everyone keeps talking about Travis’s sonics, vibes, production, stadium flow etc. but he’s a rapper and rapping is the least talked about element of his album. for that reason there’s no way that this can be rap AOTY when Conway and Killer Mike gave us great production and ACTUALLY rapped at a high level.
Every opinion of a Travis fan always goes back to everything except rapping when anyone says something about his raps 😂Y’all are so tone deaf to the way people listen to music other than yourselves. “ItS NoT AbOuT ThAt WiTh TrAvIs 😢”
@@abundancebundlesYou're here, so you're a fan to some degree. Don't listen if you don't want to, don't argue, listen to the ones you like. Travis lyricism is so much better on Utopia.
@@KhalikOketokun i am a Travis fan, first song I ever heard was upper echelon. “Coffee bean” is more lyrical than anything in this album. I’m just not a glazer, that’s the difference. His rapping is lacking more than it ever was. you don’t seem to have the mental capacity to “argue” or debate anything about music, clearly.
Delresto reminds me of a scene in a movie where everyones at a club dancing and the main character is stumbling around and struggling to find themselves in the chaos, it has a beauty to it but also such horror and thats why its one of my favorites off the album
i was thinking delresto can def be used for euphoria 3 soundtrack like having an affair and making love under blue lights in the shower. or ofc in a horror or a sci-fi movie when the main character is in some critical situation and is making some transitions. dude i love the potential of this song. def one of the best out of this album imo
ik people do tend to never listen to travis for the lyricism and tbh on this album his lyiricism is so so improved like it’s genuinely surprising how much better his lyricism is and the verse on my eyes is a great example cos he keeps one subject for the whole beat switch as well as mentioning the tragedy in a way that wasn’t offensive cos it was so easy to offend when mentioning it
Bro his lyricism sucks ass “I want a bi girl on a bicycle” like he really wasn’t saying shit listen to Kanye if you want actually interesting lyricism especially on Yeezus as compared to this stuck in 2018 trash
the lyricism is still pretty bad and arguably worse for how corny it can come off at times from him trying so hard. y’all just hear him flowing and him mentioning the astroworld thing and think that means his lyrics are better
Nah the Astrothunder slander is disgraceful and will not be tolerated
idk what bro is talking about, Astrothunder is considered one of the best Travis' songs by both the critics and the fans lmfao
That song is amazing
the track is carried by the beat....travis does not add anything remarkable on that song imo
That song is legendary
That song is amazing up there with sdp Interlude
Travis isn't the best rapper, but he'll always give you a new experience every release and that's what makes me a huge fan of him. Utopia gave me something I didn't ask for or let alone even expected. While it's not perfect, it still succeeded.
yeah but he’s the best rapper
Yeezus isn’t new lil bro
Travis inspires me.. My parents said if i get 35K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging..
Ehh bro his rapping substance is literally rehashed shit from like 2018 he never talks about anything real he lives in his own little bubble
@@garyfurniss3557it would be insincere if he forced a relation with his fans
Parasail is 100% about the Astroworld tragedy. When you listen to it with that in mind you feel it so much more. His shouting representing the performance, ending with a growl signifying death. The sirens after sounding like the ambulances. And Chapelle saying "I forgive myself" demonstrating Travis' struggles after the tragedy. Song is a masterpiece
my eyes is also about astroworld
my eyes as well. he said “if only they knew what scotty would do to jump off the stage and save him a child”
Me when I listen to music high
That’s so fucking cringe
i think thats a large reach
MY EYES is a damn near perfect song. would have loved to hear Sampha a bit more, or Frank Ocean on the high pitched part in the first half, but Travis made a masterpiece with that one
frank ocean isnt on the song. travis is the high pitched person rapping
@@D0N4TELLO yeah iknow, i meant i would have loved to hear him on that part, not him being there already :)
Travis definitely tried to get Frank but he probably still mad at Travis
The second half of that song is easily my most replayed on the album
@@bxxxxtuuwhy is frank mad at travis
The fact that Shawn doesn’t appreciate Birds at all, makes me love the album even more
lmao true
Travis inspires me.. My parents said if i get 35K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging..
Birds is the most meh album ever. It’s the only studio record from Travis I don’t own physically
@@namantherockstar we ain't getting you 35k
Birds is the only Travis album with no skips.
My Eyes is definetly #1 for me off this album. That second half of the song is just perfect. Til further notice is a close second just because of how good JB is.
Completely agree with you
James Blake might genuinely have the best feature on this album ( it’s close though)
Whole song ass other than Sampha's part
YESS! Finally someone who appreciates My Eyes as the masterpiece that it is
@@herewegoagain425 did you even listen to the second half or is your attention span too short
“if only they knew what scotty would do to jump off a stage and save him a child” legendary bar, legendary artist. travis doesn’t miss and birds gets way too much slander.
except he didn’t do shit 😂
@@puffer_fish58because he didn’t know? that’s what first responders are for, they were recording videos instead
to the people that think he can spot every single victim out of a 90,000 people crowd
@@puffer_fish58 Where were you at mr hero?
@@byAngelicc ur momma’s bedroom
I don’t listen to Travis for lyricism, his music puts you in a trance or takes you somewhere. He puts a lot of effort into the production and features don’t feel like they’re only for the sake of it. Utopia better than Astroworld for me
LOOOVE was made in the Yeezus era there's a VINE (yes, a VINE) from that time of Travis playing an unfinished version of the song
This makes so much sense. Some of them had that yeezus era vibe. Cool fact and appreciate you sharing! I’ll have to look for the vine.
TELEKINESIS is one of the best songs off the album
nah they ruined future sounds
@@ben10in that’s why I stopped listening to leaks, ruins the experience
Pretty good song, definitely the best atmospheric song off the album imo
@@ben10inwhat?😂 are u dumb that song is the best
For me it‘s one of my highlights of 2023
I never really try to dig deep into albums to figure out if I like them or not. I don’t know much about good production, or beat switches that are great, or even lyrics that would be considered impressive. All I know is the feeling I get when I listen to music that has a profound effect on me.
Beautifully put.
If I am to dig extremely deep, I must be intrigued with a certain part or sumn but I love mystery and just let the music course through me, if it ain't right, it ain't right.
ASTROTHUNDER is highly regarded as one of Travis’ best song since it was released so I don’t know what bro is talking about
Every song on Rodeo is better than Astrothunder
@@2feettotheground rodeo sucks
Yeah, I don't know why he chose this song as an example.
@@v.k5417 real bold
Higly regarded by who? lmao the song is carried by the beat
my theory on the theme of utopia is that he finds the most happiness in his original dark production that he did in his earlier days and in the album it’s shown that utopia is where you feel happiest and i think that the cover being very similar to the original rodeo cover supports it and the fact he had production credits on nearly every song
Yeah no. I don’t think Travis has enough activity in his brain to think that one up.
I’ve been a fan for 8 years but cmon, we’ve seen the apology video. Bro is more hollow than a sea shell.
@@SolaceWhore There's a lot of people who don't articulate themselves well and come across really hollow but they have a lot of shit going on inside their heads.
Dudes trying they best to make something out of music that has absolutely no meaning
@@SolaceWhoreI thought the same thing as him, maybe Travis is happier making this kind of music
@@SolaceWhore that wasn’t an apology video. that’s just what people labeled it. Travis is a creative genius, don’t really see how you can call yourself a fan if you view him as a brainless hack.
I personally think “THANK GOD” is the best song on the album with “TILL FURTHER NOTICE” coming 2nd
Meltdown & Tilk Further Notice for me
Same fam
This is the truth
These are my 4 and 2 songs in a ranking
Nah nah nah
I think travis hit the nail on head with it being named utopia, i get this is supposed to be a TRAVIS SCOTT ALBUM, but i think the point is that he took all the things that made him happy or made us all happy and relived these moments in a travis way
Shawn complementing Travis ?!?!?!?!?!? Must be dreaming
once in a lifetime thing
Circus Maximus is a banger, even if it sounds just like Black Skinhead, (which I don’t know what’s wrong with that). The theme behind it is great too.
Exactly
The only thing similar is the drum pattern, not a copy and paste imo, clearly inspired but it’s a completely different vibe to black skinhead
I think Travis did great with the content. Many people say he says nothing, but many of the cuts here talk about the good life in such a grimy way, that it's inspiring and sad at the same time.
Take for examples, My Eyes, Thank God, Telekinesis, Fein, Hyena, Circus Maximus, Lost Forever, Sirens, Till Further Notice, Love. When one can feel that they relate to the lyrics both in an inspiring and depressing way, that is good content for someone who is heavy in the trap genre.
Plus, even in songs where he isn't saying anything, the production and song structures make the songs very enjoyable.
Maybe I'm just a big Travis fan, but I do think this project is the most unique and fulfilling project in his discography.
My Eyes is the most beautiful song Travis has ever made
Nah the 2nd half of “Way Back” makes me feel like I’m wearing a black turtle neck with Cuban links.. its beautiful
Nah bro 90210
@@vocecaiunocontodomalakoi7541 Thats just a better song. Probably his best honestly. When I say beautiful, it’s mainly production on the first half. Ethereal, atmospheric background to go with the soft melody/tone from Travis/Sampha. The rapping on the 2nd half is the icing on the cake in making a very complete track
i think is one of his best songs, this one really got me
The fact that we debating bout 4 different GOATED Travis scott songs speaks volumes to his discography 😭😭😭bros tooo mf GOATED
The second half of My Eyes and Telekinesis are two songs I literally want to cry💯 some of the best I’ve ever heard from any artist🔥💯
Those are the only highs on the album
Not really
Maaaan the outro from Skitzo and beat switch up around 4 and a half minutes is one of my favorite parts of the album
Man I've been a huge Travis fan since days before, and I can really say that this is probably the first time since rodeo that I've felt this happy after a Travis release😩
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astroworld ??????😭😭😭
Astroworld was fire, but it's like Shawn said its mostly feature driven, so I felt a lot of distance between me as the listener and Travis. Utopia was a lot more personal, felt like he didn't leave room for any more to be desired on his part. He kept me fed throughout(pause😂)
Thank God you said pause 💀😂
The "Circus Maximus" cut of the album feels a lot more concise (albeit, it omits Lost Forever). Cuts out a lot of the fat and makes it feel a little more consistent.
I liked utopia but I also felt like at times the main thing holding it back was travis himself and his performances. He brought together this production that at times sounded very high concept and experimental, but didn't really elevate his approach to rapping to accommodate those beats effectively. It also doesn't help that he doesn't talk about much on utopia. The album still feels kinda shallow given the 5 year wait and all he had been thru. To me it kinda feels like those big chocolate sculptures. When u break into it you expect it to be filled with a bunch of other treats, but this one felt a LITTLE hollow. Still a good album tho
birds disrespect is wild 😭😭😭
everyone disrespects birds. understandable tho cuz everyone compares it to travis’ other albums, being rodeo, astroworld and utopia. birds in itself is an amazing album imo but it’s the worst out of the 4, so that’s probably why so many disrespect it
that and astroworld caught some hooks 😭
all that green n yellow from ur eyes” on my eyes talking about kylie jenner eyes and astrofest incident, his best song since 90210 idc
Very freshing to hear a person speak their honest opinions
Dayum birds was catching strays. Real ones remember how birds had Shawn for the first listen lmao
I think we can all agree that Travis hasn't missed when it comes to full length projects overall. Matter of which one you like better is a reflection of you really
Huncho Jack was ass, no one talks about it anymore it got forgotten
@@Niz96 lmao. Totally forgot about that. Why'd you remind me 😮💨
@@Niz96to be fair that was a collab album with Quavo
@@Niz96it’s not ass i can’t let you say that. it has great highlights
@@Niz96huncho jack was not ass. It was a trap album full of bangers
Someone hasn’t done Shrooms to Astrothunder
Bro needs to give Birds another listen. THE ENDS, WAY BACK COORDINATE, THRU THE LATE NIGHT, classic after classic. Travis had way better lyrics and these songs are way better than most of Astroworld and Utopia
Sure those are good tracks, but there’s a lot of mid on birds
Birds is a classic album very slept on dont think people actually listened to it
Nah nigga, birds is mid at best with a few good tracks
Y'all are right that the album kinda tapers off after the first 4-5 tracks
Birds album feels like one long hazy dream/nightmare. Amazing experience.
that’s exactly what travis said it is shawn just hating
I feel like that applies to Utopia more than Birds but thats just me. Birds definitely has a dreamlike quality to it, but almost everything on Utopia sounds far more nightmarish.
Far more cohesive than UTOPIA
This reminds me of when astroworld first released. The older fans of him liked it some people hated it cause it didn’t sound like the last album or it “wasn’t mainstream like his last” or “he was experimenting too much” and here we are 5 years later everybody’s saying the same thing it’s crazy 😂😂
History gone repeat
Nah older fans kinda hate this album
@@kuri5943eh idk. I feel like the newer fans hated this album because they expected an astroworld 2. If you’ve been listening to travis for awhile I would be surprised if u didn’t enjoy this album.
@@kuri5943nah soon as he said he was listening to rodeo and days and owl I was expecting and hoping he’ll do more rapping, so I love it
This album is for the OG Travi$ Scott fans. Not the astroworld heads
I notice everyone who might not love it was expecting a second Astroworld since that’s where he got most of his new fans. Same with Kendrick. So many expected another Damn and didn’t get that, and are disappointed they didn’t get it. Which I understand to a degree. I myself expected to hear those psychedelic trap bangers. Another No Bystanders, Butterfly Effect, etc. But I’m honestly a bit glad I didn’t get that here. It easily could’ve just been a repeat, and instead Travis challenged himself to give us something we weren’t expecting to hear.
And i personally don’t understand it being inspired by Kanye stuff/Yeezus being a criticism. Travis has clearly always been inspired by Kanye. I don’t disagree that some things clearly sound like Yeezus records, but we have to stop acting like him being around Kanye most of his career isn’t why this is prominent on like 5 songs. At least it’s not the entire album. But it’s definitely there. It’s still very much Travis on here. There’s More Owl Pharaoh, and Days Before Rodeo than Yeezus to me personally. But people who just started paying attention with Astroworld won’t get that. The same way there’s a lot of section.80 on MMTBS, but new listeners don’t know that.
EDIT: Whether or not you liked Kendrick’s album is irrelevant here. I’m only bringing it up because it’s very reminiscent of what happened during that time. People had an idea of what the next would be because of the last. That’s all I’m talking about.
I was expecting another Rodeo.. and tbh this is the most he’s actually rapped in a WHILE - but I’m still struggling to connect with the album., it’s good - but IDK im just not feeling it.
No. We were just not expecting Yeezus 2
@@firstlast9846it’s the most he’s ever rapped in an album apparently - which is exactly why i don’t like it that much lmao
Travis inspires me.. My parents said if i get 35K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging..
Nah I was expecting him to actually up his rapping substance and talk about the very real shit that happened at the Astro world festival and actually be interesting but mf just rapped about the same shit again basically not saying shit he’s like an uninteresting Kanye
saying no bars are on this album is utterly ridiculous
Finally someone mentions Arca! She truly helped the change the sound of rap forever.
One day modern jam is gonna be shown love
nah... in my ears that shi is wack, totally out of place
@@ThisIsGlitchthat shit hard
I love modern jam reminds me of some late 80’s stuff and Redman
Fr its so hard
Travis albums/mixtape rankings:
1. Rodeo
2 Astroworld
3. Utopia
4. Days Before Rodeo
5. Huncho Jack, Jack Huncho
6. Birds In The Trap Sing McKnight
7. Owl Pharoah
8. Jackboys
After looking at the album credits for Yeezus it turns out Travis is only credited for like 3 songs on the album. Also with Utopia, Travis worked with a lot of the same ppl that Kanye used on Yeezus so maybe that’s why some songs sound so similar
I think travis worked alot on thank god for drugs of kanye,,
If u think Travis’s production was soley locked into 3 tracks in yeezus while he was round ye that whole time idk what to tell u
@@noxazamiahe’s not thinking anything he’s going off facts 🤣🤣
@@noxazamiaeven if he was as heavily involved as you say (which he wasn't) wouldn't that just mean that songs like circus maximus are carbon copies of ideas he had 10 years ago? It just don't seem all that creative
@@eassahagyemang815 firstly they are still very creative ideas, but my angle is , he didn’t have to implement that creativity as big as he is , in a time where modern music / hits is soo formulaic. He could’ve literally gotten away with astroworld 2 with a bunch of hits (no discredit) but he chose to go absolutely left and made songs from actual concepts instead of beat packs from the biggest hip hop producers. Thats why I credit this new album so much and give it high regard. It also makes way for other aspiring artists to consider a more creative route as ye did for travis fr fr, instead of trying to make tiktok hitters to blow up
literally that little visual thing u had is so real holy
skitzo being 6 minutes makes perfect sense, its just all these dialogues and beat switches. idk why no one seein that thru
doesn’t make it a banger lmao. you can do all the easter eggs you want still doesn’t make up for a forgettable song.
@@gawdspeednot forgettable at all, it’s amazing
SZA using that Marvin’s room flow
I think that Travis Scott is at his best when hes doing production on most tracks of his album. Thats why Rodeo is his best album and why Utopia is his second best. My opinion
Glad to see someone mention arcas contributions to Yeezus
birds is a good album for me just because it has way back on it
And the ends
@@spowbusiness2187 this two hard fr
way back, the ends and pick up the phone are all incredible imo. my honest opinion is that birds is a great album but just gets a bad wrap because it’s compared to all of travis’ other albums, which are impeccable. (mainly rodeo, astroworld and utopia)
@@burdy707birds >> all of those
the album is overall very good, other artists would have this as their best work but compared to his stuff i get why people put it at the bottom
Bro, you forget Astroworld on stargazing with thee COLDEST transition. That’s detail
Felt like an empty/hollow attempt to recreate a Kanye album. The extravagant production lead absolutely nowhere. Does Travis even have a personality or have anything to say other than he wears designer and nails models?
this
I feel like the purpose of drakes outro on sirens is meant for people who listen to songs like modern jam and feel lost and unhappy with the album so far (the listener being the girl) and drake reassuring utopia is amazing.
THANK GOD IS A BANGERRRR
Travis got allot of bars on this album.. gotta look at the lyrics while listening
Missed the biggest chance to go back to back with Drake in that second half of Meltdown; 4 bars each b2b could have topped Sicko Mode
love how in that airin producer bar drake did on meltdown the sound he makes also has a double meaning. since the sound he makes can be interpreted as the gun airin out or like a film reel on play.
obsessed with this album not gonna lie
me too, this shit doesnt stop to getting better
fr i know anything sounds better with drugs but i really think the people that don’t like it need to take psychs or just smoke a lot of weed and just vibe to the whole thing to really absorb and soak in the soundscape and subtle narrative of the whole album
I like the album. But I’m hungry for Kanye content. So 🤷♀️ I guess that’s to be expected. But I agree, this album did make me appreciate some of Ye’s earlier albums that I did not like/appreciate at the time he released them.
“i’m not saying it’s a great album, i’m not saying that. BUT…”
I do the same thing I keep replaying the Thank God transition
That astrothunder take is one of the most appalling tales I’ve ever heard that’s a top 5 if not too 10 Trav song of all time and my personal 3rd favorite song oat
Fam, I thought I was the only who keeps going back to that transition on Thank God!!!
Im tellin y'all, violin is the greatest instrument created on this planet ong
Nah organ bro
@@Saint_Amari888 👍🏻. Told y'all it was violin
*For me the album got better after repeat listens* but… it’s still not clicking with me in the ways his previous albums have.. it’s not bad or “mid” it just doesn’t evoke anything beyond me thinking it’s good which disappoints me.
I dead cried at the thank god transition. Like I’m not even sad or depressed or anything, I was just that hype and it was just that beautiful.
Highs
- Thank God transition
- Teezo TD on Modern Jam
- My Eyes
- SZA
Mid
- Meltdown
- Topia Twins
Lows
- Carti
He only likes Telekenesis cuz he hasn't heard the GOAT version of Future Sounds
explain
@@AliFrankTheTank Telekinesis was a Kanye leak featuring Travis Scott, named Future Sounds, which is where Travis got the background melody from.
If you want to find it look up Kanye Heaven and Hell GOAT Version. I've never had sex but I can imagine it feels like listening to that.
you think you ate so much with that caption. You wrote that description and jumped giddy with excitement. You wrote that description and I guess the real treasure was the friends we made along the way
I thought Utopia was an amazing album and I think more people will realize it as time passes
I really hope I do cause I have listened to it 5 times and I'm still not feeling it
It's mid af in my opinion
Probably not, albums generally grow on people when there is a lot of replay value, but this isn’t that sort of album.
@dream1430 I remember saying kendrick new album will grow on me but it never did lol
@@dream1430 what do you mean it has a lot of replay value
Astrothunder literally makes you float, shawn is trippin'
"I gotta hear that again" Me literally every time I hear those violins 😆
STILL NO PRESSURE
Travis has always had some cringe lines but saying he doesn’t have bars AT ALL is crazy
fr he was act saying smg talking abt fatherhood, finding love which is his utopia
He has very little bars in his music. And even the bars he does have aren't the greatest. I don't listen to him for bars tho
Bro i swear to God. I love Kanye too but people online that reverse him so much are wildin. If Kanye was dropping verses like the ones on HYAENA they would be losing their minds and calling them verse of the year
@@user-ds5lf3he3x thats fair but the thing is he does have bars, its not like traditional hip hop bars tho like smg u wud experience from kendrick or witty wordplay from MF Doom, its lyrics that go with the aesthetic/sonic presence of his music, dark and horror core driven. Once u understand that u will gain an appreciation of scotts lyrcism trust me. i went thru the same thing. also he did go deeper talking abt fatherhood, the astroworld casualty, he dropped some quotables, basically wut im saying is he does have lyrical talent, or else he wudnt b as famous as he is, but thats not his strength ur right, its his production/aesthetic which draws viewers like us.
@@aldrianspalding4157 the reason why I say his bars aren't the greatest is because they rarely ever turn into extended ideas. Like with the astrofest incident he just dropped it and like 2 lines later it was completely about something else. He isn't the best at holding a concept for a song he just kind of sprinkles in parts of the concept randomly.
It's crazy that all Pusha T had to do was drop that track and just sit back cause after that, the same rapper that was calling him irrelevant is still talking about him 5 years later
Legit bro scarred him for life💀💀
Facts Imaooo
You gotta tap in to A Love Letter to you 5 TRIPPIE IN HIS BAGGGG
don’t disrespect astrothunder
I just think it is baffling how people are criticizing this album, like have you heard other rap releases from this year? This is far and away the most progressive and risk taking rap project this year. And whether you like Travis or not as a rapper the production is insane. He is trying to do something different and gets cut down for it. Meanwhile other rappers can drop the same song on the same beat and some critic out there will say it is a classic.
It sounds the same as every other Travis song
It being better than all the other trash isn’t saying much.
Lol I could think every rap release in the past 10 years was bottom of the barrel garbage and it still would not stop me from calling a mediocre album what it is. I am not going to evaluate art based on how bad everything else is. Scaring the hoes is more experimental than this, and I don’t even think it’s actually high on that scale.
And please explain what exactly is or experimental about this? I listen to a lot of experimental stuff and this isn’t. People (or critics at least) don’t dislike it bc it’s ‘experimental’. It’s the opposite. Travis doing the same shit that Kanye, Frank, Industrial scene artists, James Blake, or Bon Iver, or even himself did years ago is not experimental, it’s just inspired. I’ll give you the risk-taking part, but that’s it and only merits a nod to Travis himself, not the art which still must be evaluated. Experimental indicates some level of genuine groundbreaking novelty in the scene. Imo, the replay ability is low, Travis lacks character/substance, and y’all have been starved for so long that the recency bias is penetrating your psyche. I genuinely believe that most of the people glazing this album (as in 10/10 “instant classic”, not 7/10 or whatever) have a narrow music palette and over saturate themselves with mainstream crap or underground crap that’s imitating mainstream crap. Also the mixing/mastering was def a step down from previous works.
This was not an attempt to change your mind, I respect your subjectivity. But you said the criticism was baffling so I attempted to give more insight.
@@brandoncostello999 get them ears checked
@@assata5174I recommend you go back to travis origins. He ORIGINALLY was working with kanye and had a similar sound to him. This album he goes back to his roots which is way more unique then his generic mainstream sounds over the past five years.
4:45 Shawn Cee knows man. I was in tears listening to that song man😭
Thank you for making amazing content through out the last few years. Unlike other people, I respect your opinions and enjoy your takes on different music, albums, and different tastes. On my free time. I know you will never ever respond to this comment. Which is fine. Just like me keep working hard and keep grinding. Remember the grind never stops. Just work very hard and extremely hard and grind. Enjoy both albums. And I look forward to new content, and possibly a interview that you can do with a big name artist next year, if that something that you are interested in. One day, I will invite you as a guest speaker, but of course when that time comes than. If you respond I would be highly appreciative. But if you don’t than that is fine. Enjoy both albums. And looking forward to new content.
Album gives me rodeo vibes and it’s all I wanted from Travis, interesting production and some energy, remove like 3 stinkers and this easily second best in his discography (thank god is soooo hard😭)
On god this is so accurate literally drop the Beyoncé song and this album is perfect
@@fldumars3574tweakin. The Beyoncé song is top 5 on the album
That transition on thank god literally got me levitating. THAT SH*T WAS HEAVENLY BRO
MY EYES will go down as one of Travis' greatest tracks. fucking beautiful.
i never understood the hate on Birds. his best bars are on birds TBH
It’s not that big of a deal boy 😂 he just did a song about a sound of his idol
I personally think it’s a 10/10 but I respect Shawn’s opinion 100% other than birds, the birds disrespect was crazy
Respect the idea of Astroworld being more feature based and just a different album then Utopia.
Astroworld’s features are what makes it memorable (to me) where as Rodeo and Utopia (like Shawn said) are Travis first with supporting features. Not the other way around like Astroworld
cause we love an album by an artist that has mostly other artists on it
THANK GOD should have been the intro. 😭😂 the transition was godly.
Damn so Shawn does like UTOPIA better than Astroworld
he smokin rocks
@@AliFrankTheTanknah y’all overhyping astroworld way too much. It’s closer than you think
@@kriptik1460 nah i agree. UTOPIA is def better than astroworld. Way more interesting sounding
@@rodney7277what is more interesting about it?
astroworld had great production objectively but the songs weren't that entertaining
Bro my jaw is still hanging . You said birds is 💩
Most definitely a album to be put on repeat
no skips, even kpop fits in relatively well after loove
@@amr-bw4gf lmfao he could of put escape plan and mafia on there
Ain’t no way
Yep I loved Yeezus part 2 as well
Facts
my eyes is his best song ever, crucify me
no lies
I don’t get the hate Travis gets as a ‘rapper’. Just because he doesn’t give you double or triple entendres every bar doesn’t take away from his flow etc. I personally have him in the goat conversation because his production and project quality along with his (in my opinion) excellent vocals elevates him to the S tier
His lyrics be so surface level but the production is so deep. It clashes. That’s my opinion of it. The flows Are cool but on a beautiful ass beat I don’t want a generic verse. Maybe get a regular beat for the regular bars.
it’s because everyone keeps talking about Travis’s sonics, vibes, production, stadium flow etc. but he’s a rapper and rapping is the least talked about element of his album. for that reason there’s no way that this can be rap AOTY when Conway and Killer Mike gave us great production and ACTUALLY rapped at a high level.
Every opinion of a Travis fan always goes back to everything except rapping when anyone says something about his raps 😂Y’all are so tone deaf to the way people listen to music other than yourselves. “ItS NoT AbOuT ThAt WiTh TrAvIs 😢”
@@abundancebundlesYou're here, so you're a fan to some degree.
Don't listen if you don't want to, don't argue, listen to the ones you like.
Travis lyricism is so much better on Utopia.
@@KhalikOketokun i am a Travis fan, first song I ever heard was upper echelon. “Coffee bean” is more lyrical than anything in this album. I’m just not a glazer, that’s the difference. His rapping is lacking more than it ever was. you don’t seem to have the mental capacity to “argue” or debate anything about music, clearly.
Delresto reminds me of a scene in a movie where everyones at a club dancing and the main character is stumbling around and struggling to find themselves in the chaos, it has a beauty to it but also such horror and thats why its one of my favorites off the album
Delresto reminds me of schizophrenic crackheads
thats what it feels like on love imo
Travis is really good at creating creepy atmosphere without over the top lyrics needing to add to the idea.
i was thinking delresto can def be used for euphoria 3 soundtrack like having an affair and making love under blue lights in the shower. or ofc in a horror or a sci-fi movie when the main character is in some critical situation and is making some transitions. dude i love the potential of this song. def one of the best out of this album imo
@@zinee6100 bruh what🤨
Nah birds is actually really good , that whole vibe around the album felt like a fall night in a college party
In terms of sound birds is the most Travis Scott album, no Kanye or Cudi inspiration at all.
@@SIMCartithe songs fit w/o it feeling repetitive
@@SIMCartiit just sounds like rodeo leftovers (which isn’t even a bad thing) for most of the album but it’s still really good
Shawn is obsessed with his frankenstein interpretation of travis😂
utopia is a good project that couldve been so much more.
My exact thoughts
Exactly how I feel. It has so much potential but sounds super rushed
Slandering BITTSM is insane, that’s probably one of his best albums
ik people do tend to never listen to travis for the lyricism and tbh on this album his lyiricism is so so improved like it’s genuinely surprising how much better his lyricism is and the verse on my eyes is a great example cos he keeps one subject for the whole beat switch as well as mentioning the tragedy in a way that wasn’t offensive cos it was so easy to offend when mentioning it
Bro his lyricism sucks ass “I want a bi girl on a bicycle” like he really wasn’t saying shit listen to Kanye if you want actually interesting lyricism especially on Yeezus as compared to this stuck in 2018 trash
the lyricism is still pretty bad and arguably worse for how corny it can come off at times from him trying so hard. y’all just hear him flowing and him mentioning the astroworld thing and think that means his lyrics are better
He got a lot of ghostwriters tho.
The only bar that really pulls me out of my skin is the 7/11 bar on meltdown everything else is solid for todays standard.
my eyes is a great song fr
5:02 my eyes made you cry too? Yeah idk why but i did
Seeing all of the Kanye cuts on here makes me happy, especially having a full release of future sounds, that song makes me feel something man
funny thing is that birds my favourite travis project .
I don’t know if this was a positive or negative review tbh
That’s called nuance brother. I still said I liked it
Wow you discovered something called nuance
shawn cee just the backhand compliment storm trooper 😂😂
@@ShawnCee this is called a joke you donkey
good review as always
The album is a masterpiece and well created.
💀
4:43 so essentially Travis Scott is Vision from marvel