Mr. Weiwei is such an eloquent spokesman for China. I just love to listen to his talks. I think the success of a democracy can be measured in terms of how the government fulfills its social contract to the people. This contract involves providing cheap education, universal health care, safety (freedom from crime, drugs, etc), eliminating poverty and so on. China has done an excellent job in fulfilling this social contract while the US has done quite poorly. In fact, I consider the US only a semi-democracy (it is 28 out of 32 in the ranking of the world’s democracies). It is a system of hyper-capitalism that benefits corporations before the people. Kudos to China for running one the world’s leading democracies. It is the new model for the world to follow. And thank you, Mr. Weiwei. I’ll have to listen to your presentation again and take notes this time!
Good comment. The US system needs reforming. But they are not the only ones in need of reforms. By the way, it's 'Mr Zhang.' Weiwei is the first/given name. The family name comes first in this naming system.
As a Dutch European, I have once read a Cuban government plan. I was amazed, because if it was developed as tells it's introductory chapter, then I definitely feel it is far more democratic than our democratic way.
Western democracy feels like it was something made for the pre-internet age. Which was fine, but now it could do with an update. The Chinese form is very interesting. Voting for policies, not parties.
I think it goes beyond just that, i feel like english speakers will fall behind without understanding chinese language at least as a second language because whats the point of emerging as powerful economy if people are suspicious of your culture we play into americans cold war mentality and closed minded to whats happening in the wider world.
I'm reading Roland Boers Socialism with Chinese Characteristics - A guide for foreigners. He explains, from its Maxist roots, what prof.Zhang gives examples here of how Chinese socialist democracy works. Excellent talk and much needed to demystify the Western propaganda we are force fed daily. Thank you prof Zhang! 🙏👍
Prof Wang has offered a most intelligent explanation of “ democracy” Chinese style! China’s struggles from establishing the People’s Republic of China to its correction from lessons learned from the chaotic cultural revolution times is total! These struggles gave rise to its current successful path. I have great faith and trust that its current socialist capitalism path includes participatory of all its peoples- by and for! China is an old civilisation who appreciates meritocracy based on inward critical thinking, and great philosophical outlook with pragmatic characteristics! Chinese people’s are mostly business oriented and it’s common folks know hardships, and are hard working! With control of corruption, good leadership, China will prevail and be influential to the world in a good way.❤
When country has the right process of democracy then they will have the right result as well, now western countries just have one day democracy when the election time ?!? after that nothing change ??!!
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One of tbiggest reason for Chinese success is that the Chinese government unlike the US (the boss of western countries) has the final say not the oligarchs. I like the good things about China or any other country. I hope China continue to remain a responsible actor at the global stage 20 or 30 years from now, because unfortunately historically the most powerful country will change into imperialist over time. Hopefully China will be different,future will tell.
In democracies, oligarchs call the shots; corporations have the final say. In Communist China, where we refused to acknowledge openly, China's leadership and government have the utmost integrity. If top leadership has utmost integrity, there is no room for corruption, malpractices, favouritism, cronyism. Mr XJP is a hardcore anti-corruption leader and he is exceptionally wise. He led the fight against poverty. In any nation, where poverty is prevalent, so are crime rates and corruption. If poverty is taken care of, automatically, many other social problems are reduced. I don't know why the world would not acknowledge this glaring fact: China's CPC is the best government system in the world.
The mechanisms of Chinese whole-process democracy is to let the cream rise to the top, wisdom and reality from the whole mass population. But of course being organic, it is a continual refinement and improvement process.
Excellent. A very objective, pragmatic and realistic understanding of democracy as a whole process instead of the much abused democracy of partialities such as the current poltical spell of liberal democracy.
Finally! What I've been trying to explain for years to Westerners (and some Chinese!) has been put into simple words and concepts that potentially even US politicians can understand! Mao, Deng, and President Xi are all familiar with Lincoln's Gettysburg Address, and today's China can be proud of having truly become a nation "of, by, and for the People." I anticipate quoting Professor Zhang many times regarding definitions of democracy, party (China's "unified political entity," not really a "party"), and "rule of law." 🌹
China has a system called "social democracy" In China, in order to get advancement from the government one must start from the bottom up. Your qualification and selection is based on the achievements through years of hard work and experience. Here in the west, politicians got elected if they spent lots of money buying advertisements or support by special interest groups. An election is just a phrase to make people feel better in believing that they have a "democracy". 🤭🤭🤭🤭
Freedom is not free for Liberal Democracies... Africa is oppressing itself with systems inherited from colonialism... Even India is a prime example in this case. These democracies are not independent thinkers. Our decisions have been made for us. Chinese democracy is great.
After election, the government acting like the bos and the voters have no rights. Even after the protests politicians ignored all the protests without considering to change their policies. Example truck movements in Canada
Thanks for the interesting explanation. Reminded me on Rosa Luxemburg saying "... We have always distinguished the social kernel from the political form of bourgeois democracy; we have always revealed the hard kernel of social inequality and lack of freedom hidden under the sweet shell of formal equality and freedom - not in order to reject the latter but to spur the working class into not being satisfied with the shell, but rather, by conquering political power, to create a socialist democracy to replace bourgeois democracy - not to eliminate democracy altogether." (from The Russian Revolution)
Always love to hear Professor Zhang’s perspective. Some people say that “ignorance is bliss” but this is never the case. It was not the case before Rome’s downfall and it won’t be in the case of the US. I hope more people in the west will open there eyes to positive alternatives like as seen in the Chinese model before it’s too late.
Amazing and True The selection can bring the best of the best out there, if it implemented on merit. But again who decide the merit maybe the same old powerful and rich families. So as a Human for us to evolve we have to get out of this system of governance by being the governor our selves
As much freedom as anywhere else! The same token, Your kin 17:53 d of freedom ( without understanding what the word really means or freedom without responsibility to society as a whole; such as US style gun violence … freedom to own guns to kill, like its government “freedom” to invade Iraq, freedom to interfere and regime change with military means) to me is not freedom and not Chinese! Style ! Think critically next time you mouth freedom! Lol
It's not just "fine" - it's NECESSARY. The Chinese have learnt about the shortcomings of the "multi-party system", with each representing the interest of only "a certain party" - indeed that's where the word "party" came about - since imperial times. Yes, contrary to the shallow understanding of Westerners, there had never been a shortage of "partisan politics" in the mandarin courts of past Chinese dynasties. Suffice to say the Chinese have seen the kind of chaotic dysfunction we are seeing in Western congresses and parliaments today centuries before - and they don't like it one bit.
Socialist or Democracy?. Generally, in the modern civilisation the people expectations is much greater. Therefore, results shall be the gauging tools for any systems. Naturally, people will adapt to the best & adopt the best. It is prerequisites for survival .Eg. If you have the best university, students all over the world will flock to your university. So, if you have the best governing system, other countries will flock in to emulate your success or learn from it . One need not advertise it, promulgate it (the system) or fight for it high position. Our interlectual instinct will guide us. Unlike today's Democracy , it needs constant protection. Promulgation to the rest of the world. Enforcing of adherence to the system ( like certain country being questions on their democratic behaviours ). The fact is , in some countries, Democracy is on crutches & flaws are manifesting incessantly. Smearing, slandering on others for Democracy esteemed position has been the norm of the day. This is not happening to socialist system. Cool steady & certainly with full of nobleness. Interestingly , some of the countries in Europe, though , they are Democratic but in some of their socio economic programmes, they apply the socialist style. That spoke for itself, socialist is indispensable. In shot, I would like to conclude here by saying that the liberal Democracy todays is a system that promote, propagating & promulgating excrescencies. Excrescent or fasciate governing liberal Democratic are now menifest its ugliness in USA & EUROPE. For better world Bang broadcast corp
At the end of the day, we should understand that democracy is just a means, not the end. The west kind of miss this point. If so called democracy isn’t delivering peace and happiness of the people, what is the use of democracy?
Was curious so I went and spent the Day researching how the various Chinese systems work and how they evolved over time. Must admit it is quite a complex engine you have there but I understand most of it as I was raised Communist (Yugoslavia).
Our western democratic system is a capitalist democracy--who is more popular and who has raise the most campaign money becomes the party leader of the country...yet we can't vote for the leader but the party majority you voted in can vote for the country leader ( who can then make appointments for unelected powerful positions) who may or may not qualify or have the experience to govern just because that person is more popular. So we end up with a Pres/PM that may not have the competence or smarts for good governance for the people, but he/she then has to hire more or surround themself hopefully w/competent (high paying) staffs to cover his weakness- a trial & error Pres/PM. There is no consistency or stability to go fwd with good governance because the next leader may change its policies to implement their own brilliance - another trial n error Pres/PM ..the cycle repeats. And talking about raising campaign money that is another scandal-centre of influence or lobbying group comes into place ripe for corruption n blackmail, n 'I scratch your back you scratch my back'. Never mind the election promises.--sounds good its what the people wants to hear...'comsi comsa.'..it'll happens when they learn, adjust, reassess, try it ...but hey we need to implement that promise in order to get re-elected because we don't have any better new ideas n we have to focus raising more money for our re-election....this western democracy cycle repeats all over again n again. What happens to-by-for the people..we voted for you but you didn't scratch our back. We didn't vote for war, or waste taxpayers hard-earned sacrifices n you didn't consult w/us, your people, on life-threatening issues, dont we your family matters? Is this not autocracy or is it bureaucracy in western democracy term? I guess this is ' c'est la vie"...
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Many hands make light work (3 Gorges dam). Many days make democracy work (China's 30 year economic miracle) and also: "The Chinese state guides capital and private entities towards what it believes are national strategic priorities, rather than allowing them to simply focus on generating greater revenue." Jack Ma of Alipay & Ant thought he could prioritize profit, he was reminded that is not the Chinese way? President Xi Jinping was sent to work on a farm in a rural Chinese village in his youth to instill him with a sense of reality, he saw the importance of local ideas being able to percolate up to the top of the governing body to help all other villages in China? Elon Musk allows workers on a Tesla vehicle factory floor to introduce better procedures as soon as they have convinced their line boss that the change is better. This change is then promulgated from say Shanghai to Berlin, Austin, Nevada and Fremont.
Most dont the terms of govt saying of there poor work done in last six generations of the world !!!, each as their own individual thinking of your words plays
Well not full control but the United Front has about 8 other parties including the Left-wing Koumintang.But to refute your point, China does have grassroots democracy that challenges the party with the Socialist framework of their model. You can see this when Chinese people protested against COVID restrictions and the system had to obliged to the demands of the masses.
Democracy or one-man-one-vote is not the true western value. Check and balance should be the key. All measures should be to prevent anyone, including the government, from growing too powerful. The housing bubble is essentially created by the powerful local government. More than 40% of the revenue from housing sales goes to the local government. Let alone the other related taxes and fees. Now you blame all the real estate developers for that. Yet, the local government is deeply in debt. The government is too powerful to crack down tutoring and gaming and internet other private sector. The government crack down corruption. No transparecy and no formal institution. The government officiers will be much easier to corrupt in the future. The crack down on corruption will never end.
China democracy is when citizen can choose from a limited list made by one ruling party. In West you can choose from different parties or create a new party or leader.
lmao the illusion of choice is a joke, look at all western democracy its all money politics OR the choices given to the people are limited to mainly two major parties which are basically the same, democracy is just an empty concept... checks and balances are another illusion .....
More than that. We have freedom of press. Freedom of religion. Freedom of commerce. An established rule of law. A populace that doesn't worry about being "disappeared" for thinking or saying the wrong thing. We have freedom. Any time you see the word "west", substitute the word "freedom".
Princeton study says otherwise. Western countries are run by few rich funders. Your opinions don't matter. Want healthcare ? But my funder says no sweetie lol
Try that in the US. That "limited list" as you say is distilled from the thousands, maybe tens of thousands ordinary people contributing to the topic at hand. When did you last contribute your opinion on what your government proposes to do? Did anyone in your government listen to you? Having a supposed "choice" of parties has little to do with democracy.
America's two party dupoly is just an Oligarchy masking as one of them, no third party has a chance to break in because of the electoral model, nice try though no one believes that false model is pragmatic, at least no one with their feet on the ground. In China there is one party but your word carry allot more weight, just look at when they protested against COVID restrictions, the policy changed to give in to the demands of the population.
"One person, one vote", definition of "democracy" from the west, really? Then US definitely was NOT a democracy at all before 1920 when white women could not even vote legally. That meant majority of people in US before 1920 did not have legal voting rights. Only a minority of Americans enjoyed the rights to vote. It took 144 years to change that. That's a glorified democracy for you. And for a very very long time, many many African Americans did not have voting rights. Not till late 1966, US finally passed laws to ban discriminations against voting rights of African Americans. So for more than 190 years, in fact for more than 3/4 life span of US as country (in 2023), "One Person, One Vote" NEVER existed. Here we are talking about THE LEADER of the so-called western democracies. Maybe, just maybe, democracy is not something cracked up to be. Maybe It's just a tool to fool people and be used against other countries.
In the west there is a lot of debates between parties for and against certain policies, etc. lets say immigration. How does the Chinese system reach a consensus and how far can ordinary citizens go in voicing their opposition to policies? I think some fundamental point of criticism from the west is China’s surveillance and censorship of citizens. They deem it oppressive and thus think China disqualifies for being seen as a democracy for the lack of freedom of expression. How does the Chinese system address this criticism?
As a US citzen totally understand what you said. US government does the same things you mentioned in a form not face too much resistance. Each country does thing fit its environment, culture, tradition... US and/or the west think "You are either with us or against us" might work in certain situations. In reality, that phrase means nothing because they neither against you nor with you. They simply want you to leave them alone.😂
You can debate till the cows comes home and not get a perfect solution because there is none. China is a huge country, although having a Han majority is very diverse in ethnicity. A strict democracy will meant the minorities will be side-lined no but or if. The best solution therefore is for everyone to feel somewhat satisfied but not fully satisfied. China aspiration is to keep the nation whole and to this end the CPC is doing a superlative job.
Just because China only have one party doesn't mean there is no debate, saying that is so unnatural and human nature because you get two people together and sooner or later they will be arguing - and the CPC have 96 million people. I would say the debate in the CPC would be more productive than the debate in the american congress as there will be no grandstandings and oneupsmanship between the Dems and Republicans - they can stick to the issue. You think the chinese government is spending all its energy watching every chinese citizen? 1.4 billion of them? You try surveilling an american high school and see if you'll be succesful, the high schoolers will make the surveillance a joke in no time. The average American high school has about 850 students, CHina have 1,412,000,000 people. Think critically and don't just drink the propaganda by the american govt and media.
@@rap3208 Right On! Love your analysis… western MSM is so good at propaganda, and gullible people just absorb these talking heads’ one liners without any critical thinking!
This is a joke. Autocratic models as a whole have lost to Democratic models: 1) Taiwan has outperformed China in every single aspect from corruption, to life expectancy, to average salary. 2) You could say the same thing about South Korea and North Korea too 3) It's a fact that America and their democratic allies have outperformed the autocratic, Communist USSR. Today, most American allied countries are the rich ones, and the former Soviet Bloc countries are struggling to catch up. FYI, China lags behind Taiwan, South Korea and Japan.. the former 2 were in power for the same 74 years of governance too. Before someone blames the US, know that the USSR was the second largest economy in the world. The USSR also had the largest reserves of oil and gas in the model. To recap, here are global corruption rankngs: A) USA- 25 B) Taiwan- 23 C) China - 65 D) Russia- 137 Let me point out that despite China trying to economically contain Taiwan - Taiwan isn't even allowed to join the WTO - Taiwan is still outperforming China! Democracy is superior
That's what colonialism and imperialism has achieved for the West. In reality very few find what they're looking for but it's better than what the West does to their countries.
If it's not simply an underground racism thing, or world currency control war....maybe some guys cant stand that the poor people who built thousands miles of his railways&made them richer... Now sends spaceships to moon for holidays. Find a way to made theycame to terms.... 😀 & Let me buy your good & not so expensive cars
“Chinese socialist democracy” sounds so oxymoron 😅😅 “Hitler’s contribution to world peace” “Mao’s benevolent rule of China” “Genghis Khan’s compassionate rule” “USA’s admiration for Lenin” “Osama’s love for the US” 😂😂
the concept of socialist democracy had existed since likely before you were born just because you’re too much of an oaf to figure out what it means doesn’t meant it’s oxymoronic
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Mr. Weiwei is such an eloquent spokesman for China. I just love to listen to his talks.
I think the success of a democracy can be measured in terms of how the government fulfills its social contract to the people. This contract involves providing cheap education, universal health care, safety (freedom from crime, drugs, etc), eliminating poverty and so on.
China has done an excellent job in fulfilling this social contract while the US has done quite poorly. In fact, I consider the US only a semi-democracy (it is 28 out of 32 in the ranking of the world’s democracies). It is a system of hyper-capitalism that benefits corporations before the people.
Kudos to China for running one the world’s leading democracies. It is the new model for the world to follow.
And thank you, Mr. Weiwei. I’ll have to listen to your presentation again and take notes this time!
As soon as you said it fills the social contract to that people every American either laughed or cried.
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Very admiring!
Good comment. The US system needs reforming. But they are not the only ones in need of reforms.
By the way, it's 'Mr Zhang.' Weiwei is the first/given name. The family name comes first in this naming system.
As a Dutch European, I have once read a Cuban government plan. I was amazed, because if it was developed as tells it's introductory chapter, then I definitely feel it is far more democratic than our democratic way.
I don't agree with Noam Chomsky on everything I think he might be a trotskyist but he did say capitalism kills democracy
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Western democracy feels like it was something made for the pre-internet age. Which was fine, but now it could do with an update. The Chinese form is very interesting. Voting for policies, not parties.
I think it goes beyond just that, i feel like english speakers will fall behind without understanding chinese language at least as a second language because whats the point of emerging as powerful economy if people are suspicious of your culture we play into americans cold war mentality and closed minded to whats happening in the wider world.
I'm reading Roland Boers Socialism with Chinese Characteristics - A guide for foreigners. He explains, from its Maxist roots, what prof.Zhang gives examples here of how Chinese socialist democracy works. Excellent talk and much needed to demystify the Western propaganda we are force fed daily. Thank you prof Zhang! 🙏👍
Excellent explanation Professor Zhang
I enjoyed this talk with mister Zhang. Ukraine has a lot to learn from it. Thank you.
Prof Wang has offered a most intelligent explanation of “ democracy” Chinese style!
China’s struggles from establishing the People’s Republic of China to its correction from lessons learned from the chaotic cultural revolution times is total! These struggles gave rise to its current successful path. I have great faith and trust that its current socialist capitalism path includes participatory of all its peoples- by and for! China is an old civilisation who appreciates meritocracy based on inward critical thinking, and great philosophical outlook with pragmatic characteristics! Chinese people’s are mostly business oriented and it’s common folks know hardships, and are hard working!
With control of corruption, good leadership, China will prevail and be influential to the world in a good way.❤
Zhang Weiwei, very enlightening thanks.
When country has the right process of democracy then they will have the right result as well, now western countries just have one day democracy when the election time ?!? after that nothing change ??!!
Thank you Prof Zhang for sharing. Love your talks.
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This proves there is no 1 single democracy system that works for every country. Instead must be adjusted to the cultural background, religion, etc.
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@@karlklosschen4544 explain
The US still hasn't succeeded regarding cultural background, religion, etc.
@@karlklosschen4544 He's right. You just can't handle the truth.
One of tbiggest reason for Chinese success is that the Chinese government unlike the US (the boss of western countries) has the final say not the oligarchs.
I like the good things about China or any other country.
I hope China continue to remain a responsible actor at the global stage 20 or 30 years from now, because unfortunately historically the most powerful country will change into imperialist over time. Hopefully China will be different,future will tell.
In democracies, oligarchs call the shots; corporations have the final say. In Communist China, where we refused to acknowledge openly, China's leadership and government have the utmost integrity. If top leadership has utmost integrity, there is no room for corruption, malpractices, favouritism, cronyism. Mr XJP is a hardcore anti-corruption leader and he is exceptionally wise. He led the fight against poverty. In any nation, where poverty is prevalent, so are crime rates and corruption. If poverty is taken care of, automatically, many other social problems are reduced. I don't know why the world would not acknowledge this glaring fact: China's CPC is the best government system in the world.
Naive
Well it can be somewhat predicted since China historically had not expanded overseas and had the capabilities to do so.
Elucidating! Thank you Professor Zhang
Very good and informative.
The mechanisms of Chinese whole-process democracy is to let the cream rise to the top, wisdom and reality from the whole mass population. But of course being organic, it is a continual refinement and improvement process.
In the US, S**t floats.
Excellent. A very objective, pragmatic and realistic understanding of democracy as a whole process instead of the much abused democracy of partialities such as the current poltical spell of liberal democracy.
Finally! What I've been trying to explain for years to Westerners (and some Chinese!) has been put into simple words and concepts that potentially even US politicians can understand! Mao, Deng, and President Xi are all familiar with Lincoln's Gettysburg Address, and today's China can be proud of having truly become a nation "of, by, and for the People."
I anticipate quoting Professor Zhang many times regarding definitions of democracy, party (China's "unified political entity," not really a "party"), and "rule of law." 🌹
Karl Marx was born in Tier, Western Germany. Very close to French border.
Thank you for your clear explanation. Love, peace and justice.
Xie xie ni for your honest and truthful explanation. Love the host. Yes your absolutely correct our substance is deteriorating quickly.
Extremely informative and intelligent
Huge respect to China from Brazil.
The interviewer speaks English very well!
That's because the empire doesn't have a democracy in the first place. They have something called plutocracy instead.
China has a system called "social democracy" In China, in order to get advancement from the government one must start from the bottom up. Your qualification and selection is based on the achievements through years of hard work and experience. Here in the west, politicians got elected if they spent lots of money buying advertisements or support by special interest groups. An election is just a phrase to make people feel better in believing that they have a "democracy". 🤭🤭🤭🤭
Freedom is not free for Liberal Democracies... Africa is oppressing itself with systems inherited from colonialism... Even India is a prime example in this case. These democracies are not independent thinkers. Our decisions have been made for us. Chinese democracy is great.
China literally found a way around special interest that makes the economy continue to move forward
After election, the government acting like the bos and the voters have no rights. Even after the protests politicians ignored all the protests without considering to change their policies. Example truck movements in Canada
Thanks for the interesting explanation. Reminded me on Rosa Luxemburg saying "... We have always distinguished the social kernel from the political form of bourgeois democracy; we have always revealed the hard kernel of social inequality and lack of freedom hidden under the sweet shell of formal equality and freedom - not in order to reject the latter but to spur the working class into not being satisfied with the shell, but rather, by conquering political power, to create a socialist democracy to replace bourgeois democracy - not to eliminate democracy altogether." (from The Russian Revolution)
Democracy? To quote NYU professor Nouriel Roubini “ only profits are privatized, but costs are socialized “
In the west. Election is only for formality. After election, informal will take center stage.
As long as there is stability and freedom to make and spend money, whatever the system is called doesn't matter.
Chinese democracy appeals. It's processes are non existent in Western democracy models. The people aren't involved.
Always love to hear Professor Zhang’s perspective. Some people say that “ignorance is bliss” but this is never the case. It was not the case before Rome’s downfall and it won’t be in the case of the US. I hope more people in the west will open there eyes to positive alternatives like as seen in the Chinese model before it’s too late.
Amazing and True The selection can bring the best of the best out there, if it implemented on merit. But again who decide the merit maybe the same old powerful and rich families. So as a Human for us to evolve we have to get out of this system of governance by being the governor our selves
It's interesting watching in real time the decline of the west and the rise of Asia
Freedom
As much freedom as anywhere else! The same token, Your kin 17:53 d of freedom ( without understanding what the word really means or freedom without responsibility to society as a whole; such as US style gun violence … freedom to own guns to kill, like its government “freedom” to invade Iraq, freedom to interfere and regime change with military means) to me is not freedom and not Chinese! Style !
Think critically next time you mouth freedom! Lol
This young interviewer is excellent! Thank you!👍☮️🇨🇳
One party government is fine as long as that one party serves the interests of the majority of the citizens.
In the US empire there is always only one government and it serves the 1%
It's not just "fine" - it's NECESSARY. The Chinese have learnt about the shortcomings of the "multi-party system", with each representing the interest of only "a certain party" - indeed that's where the word "party" came about - since imperial times. Yes, contrary to the shallow understanding of Westerners, there had never been a shortage of "partisan politics" in the mandarin courts of past Chinese dynasties. Suffice to say the Chinese have seen the kind of chaotic dysfunction we are seeing in Western congresses and parliaments today centuries before - and they don't like it one bit.
Socialist or Democracy?.
Generally, in the modern civilisation the people expectations is much greater. Therefore, results shall be the gauging tools for any systems.
Naturally, people will adapt to the best & adopt the best. It is prerequisites for survival .Eg. If you have the best university, students all over the world will flock to your university. So, if you have the best governing system, other countries will flock in to emulate your success or learn from it . One need not advertise it, promulgate it (the system) or fight for it high position. Our interlectual instinct will guide us.
Unlike today's Democracy , it needs constant protection. Promulgation to the rest of the world. Enforcing of adherence to the system ( like certain country being questions on their democratic behaviours ). The fact is , in some countries, Democracy is on crutches & flaws are manifesting incessantly. Smearing, slandering on others for Democracy esteemed position has been the norm of the day. This is not happening to socialist system. Cool steady & certainly with full of nobleness.
Interestingly , some of the countries in Europe, though , they are Democratic but in some of their socio economic programmes, they apply the socialist style. That spoke for itself, socialist is indispensable.
In shot, I would like to conclude here by saying that the liberal Democracy todays is a system that promote, propagating & promulgating excrescencies. Excrescent or fasciate governing liberal Democratic are now menifest its ugliness in USA & EUROPE.
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Reporter Yawen has a superb accent !!! ... 👍
Where is the law against female violence to male?
At the end of the day, we should understand that democracy is just a means, not the end. The west kind of miss this point. If so called democracy isn’t delivering peace and happiness of the people, what is the use of democracy?
I called that "People's Democratic China".
War or peace take a side love or hate
Was curious so I went and spent the Day researching how the various Chinese systems work and how they evolved over time.
Must admit it is quite a complex engine you have there but I understand most of it as I was raised Communist (Yugoslavia).
😢 better performing democracy for the individual worker and better-performing economy for the middle class now earning more than the US middle class
Our western democratic system is a capitalist democracy--who is more popular and who has raise the most campaign money becomes the party leader of the country...yet we can't vote for the leader but the party majority you voted in can vote for the country leader ( who can then make appointments for unelected powerful positions) who may or may not qualify or have the experience to govern just because that person is more popular. So we end up with a Pres/PM that may not have the competence or smarts for good governance for the people, but he/she then has to hire more or surround themself hopefully w/competent (high paying) staffs to cover his weakness- a trial & error Pres/PM. There is no consistency or stability to go fwd with good governance because the next leader may change its policies to implement their own brilliance - another trial n error Pres/PM ..the cycle repeats. And talking about raising campaign money that is another scandal-centre of influence or lobbying group comes into place ripe for corruption n blackmail, n 'I scratch your back you scratch my back'. Never mind the election promises.--sounds good its what the people wants to hear...'comsi comsa.'..it'll happens when they learn, adjust, reassess, try it ...but hey we need to implement that promise in order to get re-elected because we don't have any better new ideas n we have to focus raising more money for our re-election....this western democracy cycle repeats all over again n again. What happens to-by-for the people..we voted for you but you didn't scratch our back. We didn't vote for war, or waste taxpayers hard-earned sacrifices n you didn't consult w/us, your people, on life-threatening issues, dont we your family matters? Is this not autocracy or is it bureaucracy in western democracy term? I guess this is ' c'est la vie"...
Western democrazy. If you are happy with that model, too bad!
the best western democracy is Denmark, don't use US as example, because US democracy is wrong.
Please write in English his speech madam !
The government of China is not necessarily a the ruling Class, !🇨🇳 Emperors Empress, Dynasty, Qing kept China☯️ China for How many years!❤
What outperform? More cash, more leverage?
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YT n its backers are feeling the presence of the BRICS+ Media Network that's emerging 🤣
@@RaymondLi604 Correct. They are losing the narrative hence why they just remove more than half of the comments being made.
Yes ! Soon YT will be just like China
@@jamesgathings6364 isn't YT just a propaganda arm of the PRC?
@@jamesgathings6364 It's actually already worse. I've been on the Сhinese social media and they censor people way less than TH-cam.
You can call Chinese model out come oriented democracy
I would like to point out that US society is NOT a democratic society. US is a republic society.
China:
Selection plus election
Testing
USA
" ALEPPO"
( Gary Johnson's famous fallacious answer in presidential debate)
Chinese production must boil down to tangible use to Chinese Society not Baristas serving $7 lattes to a few
Many hands make light work (3 Gorges dam). Many days make democracy work (China's 30 year economic miracle) and also: "The Chinese state guides capital and private entities towards what it believes are national strategic priorities, rather than allowing them to simply focus on generating greater revenue." Jack Ma of Alipay & Ant thought he could prioritize profit, he was reminded that is not the Chinese way? President Xi Jinping was sent to work on a farm in a rural Chinese village in his youth to instill him with a sense of reality, he saw the importance of local ideas being able to percolate up to the top of the governing body to help all other villages in China? Elon Musk allows workers on a Tesla vehicle factory floor to introduce better procedures as soon as they have convinced their line boss that the change is better. This change is then promulgated from say Shanghai to Berlin, Austin, Nevada and Fremont.
Most dont the terms of govt saying of there poor work done in last six generations of the world !!!, each as their own individual thinking of your words plays
Three prong democracy
leadership of the party
rule of law
The people ARE the master of the country
"Master of the country from the people"
"Party from the people"
"Rule of law from the people"
@@outerspace8158 and I corrected my mistake thank you
The people ARE the master of the country in China, not private corporations or oligarchs
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When has another party ever controlled a branch of government there?.
What's your point?
@@oswarz Over there. Here the two main parties change control over the executive and legislative branch according to elections.
@@snowdog03 and is anything different because the parties have changed? Does either party listen to you?
Well not full control but the United Front has about 8 other parties including the Left-wing Koumintang.But to refute your point, China does have grassroots democracy that challenges the party with the Socialist framework of their model. You can see this when Chinese people protested against COVID restrictions and the system had to obliged to the demands of the masses.
@@snowdog03 the West is a capitalist dictatorship the government serves capital regardless of party.
Democracy or one-man-one-vote is not the true western value. Check and balance should be the key. All measures should be to prevent anyone, including the government, from growing too powerful. The housing bubble is essentially created by the powerful local government. More than 40% of the revenue from housing sales goes to the local government. Let alone the other related taxes and fees. Now you blame all the real estate developers for that. Yet, the local government is deeply in debt. The government is too powerful to crack down tutoring and gaming and internet other private sector. The government crack down corruption. No transparecy and no formal institution. The government officiers will be much easier to corrupt in the future. The crack down on corruption will never end.
2952. Derp!?
Democracy is not the only way to success.
Let me say. Chinese democracy have culture and tradition. The western world and USA don't have. Okay
China democracy is when citizen can choose from a limited list made by one ruling party.
In West you can choose from different parties or create a new party or leader.
lmao the illusion of choice is a joke, look at all western democracy its all money politics OR the choices given to the people are limited to mainly two major parties which are basically the same, democracy is just an empty concept... checks and balances are another illusion .....
More than that. We have freedom of press. Freedom of religion. Freedom of commerce. An established rule of law. A populace that doesn't worry about being "disappeared" for thinking or saying the wrong thing. We have freedom.
Any time you see the word "west", substitute the word "freedom".
Princeton study says otherwise. Western countries are run by few rich funders. Your opinions don't matter. Want healthcare ? But my funder says no sweetie lol
Try that in the US. That "limited list" as you say is distilled from the thousands, maybe tens of thousands ordinary people contributing to the topic at hand. When did you last contribute your opinion on what your government proposes to do? Did anyone in your government listen to you? Having a supposed "choice" of parties has little to do with democracy.
America's two party dupoly is just an Oligarchy masking as one of them, no third party has a chance to break in because of the electoral model, nice try though no one believes that false model is pragmatic, at least no one with their feet on the ground. In China there is one party but your word carry allot more weight, just look at when they protested against COVID restrictions, the policy changed to give in to the demands of the population.
WHAT A SHAME ON YOU🤣
"One person, one vote", definition of "democracy" from the west, really?
Then US definitely was NOT a democracy at all before 1920 when white women could not even vote legally. That meant majority of people in US before 1920 did not have legal voting rights. Only a minority of Americans enjoyed the rights to vote. It took 144 years to change that. That's a glorified democracy for you.
And for a very very long time, many many African Americans did not have voting rights. Not till late 1966, US finally passed laws to ban discriminations against voting rights of African Americans.
So for more than 190 years, in fact for more than 3/4 life span of US as country (in 2023), "One Person, One Vote" NEVER existed. Here we are talking about THE LEADER of the so-called western democracies. Maybe, just maybe, democracy is not something cracked up to be. Maybe It's just a tool to fool people and be used against other countries.
In the west there is a lot of debates between parties for and against certain policies, etc. lets say immigration. How does the Chinese system reach a consensus and how far can ordinary citizens go in voicing their opposition to policies? I think some fundamental point of criticism from the west is China’s surveillance and censorship of citizens. They deem it oppressive and thus think China disqualifies for being seen as a democracy for the lack of freedom of expression. How does the Chinese system address this criticism?
As a US citzen totally understand what you said. US government does the same things you mentioned in a form not face too much resistance. Each country does thing fit its environment, culture, tradition... US and/or the west think "You are either with us or against us" might work in certain situations. In reality, that phrase means nothing because they neither against you nor with you. They simply want you to leave them alone.😂
You can debate till the cows comes home and not get a perfect solution because there is none.
China is a huge country, although having a Han majority is very diverse in ethnicity. A strict democracy will meant the minorities will be side-lined no but or if.
The best solution therefore is for everyone to feel somewhat satisfied but not fully satisfied.
China aspiration is to keep the nation whole and to this end the CPC is doing a superlative job.
Just because China only have one party doesn't mean there is no debate, saying that is so unnatural and human nature because you get two people together and sooner or later they will be arguing - and the CPC have 96 million people.
I would say the debate in the CPC would be more productive than the debate in the american congress as there will be no grandstandings and oneupsmanship between the Dems and Republicans - they can stick to the issue.
You think the chinese government is spending all its energy watching every chinese citizen? 1.4 billion of them? You try surveilling an american high school and see if you'll be succesful, the high schoolers will make the surveillance a joke in no time. The average American high school has about 850 students, CHina have 1,412,000,000 people. Think critically and don't just drink the propaganda by the american govt and media.
@@rap3208 Right On! Love your analysis… western MSM is so good at propaganda, and gullible people just absorb these talking heads’ one liners without any critical thinking!
@@cheehonglim9151 Right on! Appreciate your analysis!
This is a joke. Autocratic models as a whole have lost to Democratic models:
1) Taiwan has outperformed China in every single aspect from corruption, to life expectancy, to average salary.
2) You could say the same thing about South Korea and North Korea too
3) It's a fact that America and their democratic allies have outperformed the autocratic, Communist USSR. Today, most American allied countries are the rich ones, and the former Soviet Bloc countries are struggling to catch up.
FYI, China lags behind Taiwan, South Korea and Japan.. the former 2 were in power for the same 74 years of governance too.
Before someone blames the US, know that the USSR was the second largest economy in the world. The USSR also had the largest reserves of oil and gas in the model.
To recap, here are global corruption rankngs:
A) USA- 25
B) Taiwan- 23
C) China - 65
D) Russia- 137
Let me point out that despite China trying to economically contain Taiwan - Taiwan isn't even allowed to join the WTO - Taiwan is still outperforming China!
Democracy is superior
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I don't think so, people looking for opportunities don't go to Russia or China they go to EU or America...😑😑
That's what colonialism and imperialism has achieved for the West. In reality very few find what they're looking for but it's better than what the West does to their countries.
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If it's not simply an underground racism thing, or world currency control war....maybe some guys cant stand that the poor people who built thousands miles of his railways&made them richer... Now sends spaceships to moon for holidays. Find a way to made theycame to terms.... 😀 & Let me buy your good & not so expensive cars
Nothing social except your bodies lol
翻譯democracy為民主，乃是錯誤翻譯。大錯而特錯的翻譯。是故，當翻譯民主回頭成democracy時，遂牛頭不對馬嘴，各說各的。正確的翻譯是：多黨制。即：「多黨競選，勝選者執政。 執政數年，即改選新政府」。這個翻譯，不但是democracy 的本意，也是目前世間的普遍現象。。。中國人口中的民主卻是「一黨永遠執政」。甚麼真民主？甚麼草根民主？甚麼程序民主？都是「一黨制」。中共人士的民主是一黨專。而democracy 卻是多黨輪流。二者牛頭不對馬嘴。
翻译democracy为民主是 直译，完全没有问题。这是本意，也是深层思想。多党制，三权分立等这些只是他的实现方式，也是表现形式。今天之所以人们误解了民主，就是人们把现象（多党制，三权分立）当成了本质（人民当家做主）。正确的认识因该是民主有多种表现形式。而决不仅仅是一种表现形式。
更形象的说法是：民主是一种目标，为了实现这个目标，你可以使用不同的方法。比如，我们把民主比喻为，你想从北京到罗马（目标），你要如何实现这个目标呢？你可以坐飞机（美式民主），你可以走路去（中国式的全过程民主），你可以骑着自行车去（新加坡民主），还有其他实现方式。
@@leleliu008 ：你我道不同，志不合。因为，我认为翻译democracy为民主，把「本意」翻译得不见了。是大错而特错。你却认为「是直译，完全没有问题」。你我说不拢。
@@legpol democracy就是民主，是你不懂民主。跟道和志没有一丁点儿关系。跟理解力有关系。
@@legpol 我不是想和你辩论，我只是希望别人看到这里的时候，不要被你带偏了，我只是希望别人能正确认识民主，你说的翻译不准确的问题很早就有人说不应该那么翻译。我只是说，其实翻译的没有任何问题，你之所以说翻译的有问题，是因为你只看到了现象，而没有理解其本质，所以，你可能会得到一种错误的认识，以为只有美国式民主才是民主。这就是别人放出的烟雾弹，故意迷惑你的，一般的人根本就不会深入思考，他就会走到别人设置好的陷阱里。
@@leleliu008 : 如果是理解力的关系，那么，是你理解错误，而不是我。因为，demo是多个党，cracy 是制度。故democracy=多党制。看看世界上的百多个democratic 国家，个个是多党制。故，无论从理解，或从事实，翻译democracy成民主，都是错误翻译。
Congratu.....lazy ....😂
perfect Freudian slip 😢
The man speaks from his heart
“Chinese socialist democracy” sounds so oxymoron 😅😅
“Hitler’s contribution to world peace”
“Mao’s benevolent rule of China”
“Genghis Khan’s compassionate rule”
“USA’s admiration for Lenin”
“Osama’s love for the US” 😂😂
the concept of socialist democracy had existed since likely before you were born just because you’re too much of an oaf to figure out what it means doesn’t meant it’s oxymoronic
This is why 9 year old shouldn't enter in politics for comments such as this
Plagiarism doesn't legitimise your comment at all.
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