LP destroyed his voice by dramatic roles... Carreras, pavaroti can't produce a dramatic repertoire! Even operatic music. And drankan lady is too mistake of human? 😁
@@Monnarchmonnarchy I heard a story, that she wasn't even drunk. Del Monako heard about death of somebody of her best friends and took too many pills .
Pavarotti would have been the first to critique his performance and admit any fault he found. He was not pretentious in the least nor bothered by mistakes. Makes him all the more respected by me. His technique was excellent and held up throughout his lifetime of singing. As for pointing out all these "disasters", I hope no one ever suffers the humiliation one feels when it happens to them. I've been there and the self-recrimination is enough without others poking fun!
Peg Chandler I feel your pain girlfriend say it loud I am not perfect! Repeat it over and over again till you go into a trance and start convulsing. LOL life isn't all about Opera. There's so much more things to do in this world look around enjoy yourself visit other worlds other cultures learn other languages help those in need. Understand what I'm saying that's what I did and continue to do my wife and I are very happy married for 45 years we are both 67 years old our life is very full we have a lot of friends they all know I could sing it's not a big deal I will perform for them once in awhile just for my pleasure and their pleasure because I love my friends I don't need anyone's approval adulation Etc take care love yourself
Pavarotti tenía una voz maravillosa pero técnicamente era anárquico. En los 90 su carrera comenzó con un declive que se hizo cada vez más patente con el paso de los años.
In Pavarotti's defense this is from the night of his Met debut. He was quite ill, but didn't want to cancel because of the brevity of the situation. He canceled the next 2 performances and then returned for the 4th when he was feeling marginally better.
@@BaritoneDeLaTorre This is true. Pavarotti had been singing Lucia in San Francisco leading up to his Met debut and he got Hong Kong Flu. Talk about horrible timing. He sang two or three Bohemes, cancelled his remaining 20-30 performances for the remainder of the 1968-69 Met season and went home to Modena to recover. He didn’t return to the Met until 1970.
I am an opera singer. I am quite new in the business (5 years now), and listen to all these great singers cracks, or failure or whatever you want to call them does not make me laugh, but it makes me respect even more there hard work. Singing is not an easy thing to do (no matter what a lot of peoples think!), and everyone in this business had their "black periodS" included the best of the bests! When I listen to these "perle here" it just tells me that we can and should allow us to make mistakes
Plus, since the advent of widespread recording, we are so used to listening to singers on tape/CD/etc that are edited, redone, etc. we sometimes forget.
“To play a wrong note is insignificant; to play without passion is inexcusable.” I am with Beethoven on this one. Except for the drunk singers, they are just bringing some good old fun into the world... If we leave out those who paid 80 dollars or more for a ticket, that is...
If you can't deliver then yeah it's justified to get fired. They might not be drunk out of arrogance though, it's probably a sign of deeper personal issues.
Thanks for posting this and the other videos. It's refreshing actually. It helps to shut up a few of the snoots who say the greats never messed up, as though they were gods. Seems a lot of people forget that there are human beings on stage sometimes.
I actually give full credit to singers who throw everything into their performance they have ... even if it might not be 'their' evening. So yes - superstars have a bad day too...and? What is the point? Bad today - brilliant tomorrow. How boring would perfection be?
The "drunk" extract reminds me of a performance on The Magic Flute in which Sarastro appeared drunk for Act II. As he gestured down at the knife for Pamino, his house keys fell out of a pocket with a great clatter. He carefully tidied them away and continued!
I wrote "and that's what makes this otherwise excellent video..." meaning that the video deserves attention. I don't have opera idols, but I give Pavarotti the respect he deserves for being much more technical than many young contemporary singers who push themselves beyond what they should.
I recommend to all of you Ethan Mordden's fabulous book, "Demented". He presents the marvelous thesis that there are two kinds of performances that opera goers cherish. One is demented: the singing is exquisite, takes you beyond this living realm and transports you to another dimension and makes sex trivial for a significant period of time. The other is filth. Filth is the performance that is like a train wreck that you can't look away from. You sit there, knowing that for the rest of your life you will be able to tell people that you were there for such spectacular bad singing that they will hate you even more than for all the demented performances you have seen!
It gives us some comfort that even those we admire and love have off-performances. I have a dvd of a Pavarotti platform performance somewhere where he's obviously had a good session the night before- sweating profusely and no energy in his singing on the dvd. I'm not looking forward to the day when everything is "air-brushed", touched up by the engineer. We already have average singers 'holding' notes longer than Pavarotti; gawd knows what other tricks they are getting up to. The day dawns when all opera will be mimed so we can see the 'singers' dance, lick ears, and reveal there chests.
This happens to ALL OF US.... these Great Singers don't have auto-tune... it's the real deal.... though some singers were famous for their reliability.... the very best can crash.....
Where did you get all these recording? I actually think these are very valuable. It teaches us that we are all humans and make mistakes. Thank you for sharing these!
The tenor who sings Celeste Aida in this gallery IS NOT Carreras, and I do wonder how you can not recognize one of the most recognizables voices ever. I ignore who he is, but certainly not Carreras.
Actually, Berger’s career went on till the late 60s, singing mostly recitals. She just sensibly dropped the queen of the night. (And her substituting d’s for the f’s was clever).
One comment to Erna Berger: She is 50 at the time of this recording, already singing over 24 years professionally - and yes it is not a good idea to sing this role, if you don't had the high f. But her voice - besides the the region beyond high d''' - was still in perfect condition ( Sophie and Gilda from the Met!!) until the sixties. And as Mike Richter put it : "Even in her old age she sounded like a twenty year old girl". So her career wasn't over just yet.
On occasion of her 80ieth bd she sang a Schubert song - and it just takes your breath away. Such beautiful steady tone. I am not even sure whether this is Berger in that sequence. What an awkward video. To me Erna Berger was one of the great geniuses of the 20th century and one of its most outstanding voices!
“It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.” ~ Theodore Roosevelt
To sing Opera as a solo for making a career is one of the world's hardest thing. As young man or young woman you must get a talent ,to study for the entire life,to travel a lot ,to give up a lot of things that normal persons do......in the case you get a great success is even worse , because you feel the responsability don't disappoint the audience and everybody wait for a special performance.
This is why Franco Corelli was so nervous before every performance. He was a decent man. a perfectionist and didn't want to disappoint the audience, but it costs him a lot.
I was in the auditorium during a performance of Norma where Adalgisa sings her high "C" during a duet with Norma. What resulted was a scream that sent a wave of tension throughout the audience. I thought the opera would come to a halt but it continued as if nothing had happened.
Maybe a somewhat greater disaster is that, in today's world, very few people would have a clue whether or not a singer is anywhere near pitch, let alone any more refined or subtle aspect of their performance.
A Tenor is always walking the tightrope. Most people do not understand how fatigue, jet lag, illness, allergies, colds and a myriad of other factors affect the voice. When a Tenor cracks it isn't pretty. To say that Pavarotti didn't have a solid technique is not true.
Thank you for saying that. It's true. How often have I seen it happen, that a singer is very indisposed and wants to cancel, but is put under pressure by the management of an opera house - or his/her own agent, who wants to collect the fee - to go on anyway.(And that happens a lot, believe me.) Besides anyone can have a bad day, for whatever reason, but to collect such moments and post them in youtube under the title Perle Nere is actually quite hateful.
@assindia, agree. Just because it has the disclaimer that it isn't meant to be hateful, doesn't mean it isn't. Delighting in someone else's suffering is cruel and evil.
You can learn from their mistakes in some of the technique used in the video, as an opera singer myself, I can hear some of the misuse of the vocal techniques. Some fail due to them singing the wrong repertoire because their voices aren't suited for the arias, and some of the professionals here just had a bad night of course. Learn from it, and laugh at it, one of the greatest arias says laugh, and the audience will applaud you. I laugh and learn from my own voice breaks, and am still on the road to perfecting my own technique, but I don't see these videos as hateful, I know I'll steer clear of singing Celeste Aida because as a lyrical tenor, my voice isn't made to sing that aria, and I could damage my voice without flawless appogio support and an adequate amount of breath. Other Bel Canto singers can use this video as a guide much like I had, and sometimes it's reassuring to know that even the greats have their bad nights. Learn and laugh is what I say, I laugh because I've been there, and I've messed up just as bad as Jose Carreras in public. For those that don't understand the art of Bel Canto singing that are here laughing, let them, they may not see Opera the way we do, but at the very least we as performers entertained them, and in the end, that's our goal, to entertain the crowd. I once had to push through the aria Every Valley Shall Be Exalted in public, with a raspy voice and it wasn't pretty. I had children and adults dying of laughter while I was dying on stage, after the performance an old man and his grandson came up to me and thanked me, because "they hadn't laughed like that in a very long time." I took a bow and carried on, healed, and the next week performed that aria again in my prime. in the end I fulfilled my duty, and entertained, that 1st night, and the second time through, came back and fulfilled my duty to the composer. I got laughed at, laughed, learned, and came back and performed flawlessly. Laugh and Learn. This video is not hateful. :)
On occasion of her 80ieth bd she sang a Schubert song - and it just takes your breath away. Such beautiful steady tone. I am not even sure whether this is Berger in that sequence. What an awkward video. To me Erna Berger was one of the great geniuses of the 20th century and one of its most outstanding voices!
Some operatic voices age gracefully, but many do not. There are many stars who have (thankfully) retired from demanding roles and/or have retired from public performances altogether. I prefer to remember them when they were in their prime.
Beverly Sills sang the Queen of the Night quite often in the early days of her career but eventually gave up the role. Considering the five high F's Mozart wrote into the role, Sills's decision is quite understandable.
There was one with Milanov and she was performing Norma (a role she wasn't really fit for and by the 60's, her voice was completely ravished) and Maria Callas is in attendance. Callas goes to the back and reassures Milanov to allow her to continue but it didn't do as much.
It is extremely mean to post this. Singers are human beings and need all our respect for doing such amazing performances in front of thousands of people every night. Any of you who enjoys that should try to get where they got!
When I was young I could warm the voice up in a hurry and sound great. Then one day I was asked to sing with very little warm up, but I knew I never needed much.....well I cracked on the first note, and when I went to hit my high A....you would have thought 2 cats were fighting in a sandwich bag. It was not pretty, and I knew now I was no longer young, and would need more than a few scales to warm up.
Well, but Erna Berger was already 50 in 1950. Thanks a lot for the posting though. I enjoy listening to them just like watching America's Funniest Home Video--they are just humans and are of course subject to occasional mishaps.
Por favor. La técnica de Pavarotti entre los 60 los 70 y los 80 era perfecta. Todos nos enfermamos. Todos nos deprimimos. Todos los cantantes tienen malas noches por excelsos que sean
I also have a lot of trouble believing that was actually Jose Carreras singing the Aida excerpt. Maybe Rhadames was a bit out of his fach, but he certainly had a secure b-flat, nothing like the Tarzan bellow we hear in the recording.
The remark about Pavarotti is below the belt. WAY BELOW THE BELT, it’s so easy to criticise isn’t it? Get up on the stage before 2000 or 20,000 at Verona and see how you can perform then. This is aimed at all of those who like to to criticise so quickly,
Steven Davies I totally agree with you it's not easy when you are an artist and everyone expects you to be spot on every single performance. This is so unrealistic to expect someone with a great voice to give a great performance every time he sings an opera or in concert Etc. What we must endure to please the masses having a beautiful great voice does not mean you do not get nervous when I'm stage Corelli is a great example Aragal at times also suffered from nerves. It is really not natural to perform and these large Opera Houses and everyone expects you to be perfect and there is a great outdoor Opera performances Arena di Verona Orange Etc. Steven I totally agree with you! People that do not sing or have no Talent or don't have a voice it's very easy for them to criticize a great opera singer. Another words walk a mile in my shoes! No need to reply to my comment Steven understands. Arnold Bourbon Amaral I too had a beautiful tenor voice in high school my concert teacher and the boys choir teacher as well wanted me to pursue a career in Opera they said you can easily get a scholarship to study voice at the University. And from there you can go to Juilliard. I've told them very quickly I am not a performer I sing for my own pleasure they could not relate to it because they could not sing very well themselves. and they would repeatedly say to me you have such a beautiful quality to your voice it would be such a waste for you not to sing Etc. They like the other people that criticize did not understand but having a beautiful voice doesn't automatically gives you the desire to sing in front of thousands of people it is not normal. There I said it Steven understands I hope the rest of you will in a certain way.
Comment #2. Pavarotti - whom I heard many times in full operas and in concert - didn't have that great a High C. People get it wrong. There have always been tenors who could sing a High C but usually they were small voiced tenors who sang in comedies - like 'Daughter of the Regiment'. It wasn't that Pavarotti was the first guy who could sing it he was in his own words the first guy 'with a voice' who could sing it. Those are his words. The Met has almost 4,000 seats. Tenors with small, high voices would be in trouble singing there. I once knew a chorus tenor who claimed he could sing a G above High C. Maybe so, but you couldn't hear him a foot away. That 'King of the High Cs' stuff was malarkey. Domingo was the only tenor who challenged Pavarotti early in his career and Domingo certainly had no C. So they devised an ad campaign. Many of the best tenors never had a C either - Vickers, King, Caruso, Melchior, Del Monaco (?).
+cooloox You don't seem to have read what I wrote. Pavarotti did say that he was the first 'singer with a voice' to sing Tonio. Or at least that was the quotation that was in the press. It was a quiet well known statement at the time and there was some truth to it. He had a good sized instrument except at the very top where it got thin and wiry. Sutherland thought of The Daughter as an showpiece for her. The tenor part was typically sung by a small voiced high voiced tenor. It was a specialty part. When the young Pavarotti sang it with a much bigger voice than was common it was a sensation. But Pavarotti was never a real 'high note tenor' like Fillipeschi or Bonisolli. He became captured by his own publicity,
+Patrick Boyle Thanks for the clarification. I did misinterpret you first time around - I should have read your post properly without skimming over it. I apologise for that.
Alexa Vasile Yet another expert with yet another theory about Pavarotti. There is nothing mysterious about Pavarotti. He had a lovely sound and excellent technique. He was too fat but why would anyone think that that killed his high notes? He sang very well for a very long time. Most tenors begin to have trouble with their highest notes after fifty. Pavarotti kept his top longer than most. Domingo never lost his High C - because he never really had one. He admitted that in public many times. But Domingo like many big tenors had originally been a baritone. He reverted to being a baritone when he got into his seventies. Also a very natural development. But Pavarotti was never a baritone. He was always a tenor and when he got late in life he just became a slightly lower tenor than he had been when he was younger.
Emma Berger certainly wasn't TERRIBLE, she just didn't have a high F and sang the rest beautifully. Could have been Florence Foster Jenkins. The drunk soprano is hysterical.
Wow.. some of that was pretty brutal. Not that I am the picture of virtue, but as a director and performer, I do not tolerate anyone drunk onstage or otherwise "under the influence". I have sent home a performer prior to a performance who I knew had been drinking and I took his place onstage. Could he, half-in-the-bag, have still performed better than I ? Perhaps, but that is not the point. Respect the stage, respect the production, respect the company, and respect yourself. If this viewpoint offends anyone, sorry.
Umberto Grilli - Not a big star but a good tenor. I heard him in Florence. I have some of his recordings. Most people will never had heard of him. It's just cruel to highlight a rare bad performance. Danielle Barioni - A great but little known singer. Many of his recordings are defininitive. His Nessun Dorma recording for example is the probably the best. Why he quit so young is usually considered a mystery - probably something personal - not an inability to sing in tune.
I wonder how many opera singers, or at least amateurs, there are in this comment section - so much sensitivity. I thought it was funny and interesting to hear. It is only the same as watching sports stars make mistakes, have accidents, and such. Not very mature perhaps, but no need to be so hotly against it.
I admit I like to listen to some nice cracks taken by singers who I admire so much ... so I remember that they are always human beings. Maybe caught in their early performances, when still the excitement played tricks on them. Then there are the unpredictable events such as sudden lack of voice or throat inflammation, that force our hero/heroine to invent something to close the scene before the replacement. That's funny if you consider it just a hiccup in their magnificent carreers.
1:38 "every ... note ... is half a step flat" - in hopes you see this despite being >10 year old vid: I know a problem like this, when the vibrato is wrong such that one only releases tension, i.e. pitch moves downwards only, like e-guitar lever. Thinking of a note in your mind, which is correct, but only moving downwards with vibrato, the perceived center pitch will be a half-step flat (assuming the viobrato's total span is 2 half steps). Do you know this problem? Is there a good way to "train it away"? Because I think I have it, lol. In my mind, it is the right note, but the vibrato is uneven +/- pitch wise.
Weil, losing tension (“support”) prematurely and/or overly heavy singing might lead to it. I have had a couple of cases like that, the problem has never been a musical issue but a technical. Good luck!
Aquellos que han cantado alguna vez sabran que la voz esta pegada al cuerpo y este, a su vez, a una mente. SI la mente o el cuerpo se afectan, la voz lo hace igual. No todos los dias nos levantamos con la misma energia, la misma mente y ni siquiera con el mismo cuerpo (a nivel celular). Las grabaciones de estudio no tienen estos "accidentes" por obvias razones. Hay que ver mas presentaciones en vivo y tener en cuenta que se va a ver personas cantando, no maquinas.
Mistakes always happen since singers are human beings, can be tired or ill or can have a bad evening. Honestly some comment seem excessive like as "Pavarotti technique was not so good" . Everybody remember some accident happened to th great Luciano, here or in Lucia and Don Carlo at la Scala but this is totally unrelated with technical knowledge that Luciano owned at maximum level. Rodolfo Celletti, great vocal expert, was always saying that cracked notes are more common in singers with good singing technique since they do not force sounds and sing "sul fiato" . This make easier that in case they are tired or not in good conditin the breath support is missing. Cracks are funny but remember that it happens to legendary singers of all times like as Gayarre, Francesco Marconi, Enrico Caruso etc etc
This may seems a little rough, but you've catch good things, it's actually hear how they do mistakes to learn. It's a hard work, you cannot go high to the opera or you're out right away
Pier Miranda Ferraro - It is interesting that he can't follow the score. In the Bay Area about twenty years ago we had a local tenor named Mike Scarpelli who sang in the opera bars. He was a sensation at the Met Auditions but never advanced. He was the master of the random entrance. He could sing to his own mandolin but not to an orchestra. This kind of musical defect is much more serious than an ocassional crack on a high note or going flat once and a while.
In defense I would like to state that singing on that level is extremely hard, and a slight cold will already cause your throat to produce a series of horrible sounds that seem to lead a life of their own and that you simply have no control over. Add fatigue and stress, and you have a succesrecipe for disaster. It;s a bloody miracle it doesn;t happen a lot more often, really.
I enjoy listening to these things, lots of fun. I just hope you are someone with a stellar consistent opera career, otherwise you just earnt a whole buch of bad karma!
No need to boo the singers if they crack. It happens to everyone, especially the tenors. I think if you are singing "unnaturally", it's actually very hard to crack. So cracking is a good thing to some extent. Placido Domingo once cracked so badly in Stiffelio that he could not continue singing. The audience did not boo him. Instead they applauded him. Good for them.
It must be embarrasing as well as terrifying when something goes wrong on stage live. I suppose those who are veterans know how to cover a line up, but I think you just have to breathe and move on. I would hate to be at the La Scalla and this happens. That crowd knows their opera and will not spare their feelings when they don't like something even at a live performance
Opera singers usually have to sing very sick at some point in their careers. They usually don't have understudies ready in the wings at all but the biggest houses. Add to this the amount of fatigue that a typical production week entails, and consider that usually in Europe there is only one day (if the singer is lucky) between the dress rehearsal ( at which it is now de rigeur to sing out) and opening night, often with only one day between subsequent performances, and you see how accidents happen. If a singer wakes up in the morning and the top isn't there, and she cancels, there is no show, so the management urges her to go on, assuring her that whatever happens is understood and will be all right, and then some jerk illegally recording in the audience posts the thing on TH-cam. You really should take this down, and all the others like it.
Diva7Va Brava for your comment! I cannot BELIEVE I wasted my time listening to all THREE of this man's posts. I am too tired to comment directly to him, but one day, IF I feel it is worthwhile, I will tell him why he is a frustrated pseudo NYT critic, hiding behind a keyboard, who was most likely a huge fail in his OWN career....if he even ever sang ONE. NOTE. of operatic repertoire. Did you see Pts 1, (i initially found a bit amusing) but then part 2...and finally Part 3. He truly revealed himself to me. Er ist ein Esel......bien sûr! ....and if he sees this before you do, I am quite certain, he will delete this comment. quel idiot et hypocrite !
AfroPoli I apologize to you for my "rant"... as per the yaaaaawn, you obviously SO don't care. Perhaps you will post up some of YOUR "stuff".... goofs....whatever.... or teach US all about the rudiments of vocal technique? Sorry for being snarky. Hey..... In the end, it's a HUGE.....whatever. I sincerely do apologize.
bravaLiz OK, cara. 1. Try using arguments instead of personal attacs; 2. what does my singing have to do with the subject matter? 3. If you say that someone who judges singers has to be able to sing (an idiotic fallacy, hence the yawn), please post some videos of you singing, because also your opinion, no matter if negative or positive, is a judgement. So, if you believe that pt 3 is valid, please post your singing. Otherwise be quiet. Thanks.
Unfair comment about Pavarotti - his technique was usually faultless - his voice “closed” unexpectedly on that note, and he dealt with it remarkably well.
In your disclaimer, you say that there is no malicious intent and that it's just to show that even the greats can make mistakes! Well, in the case of Pavarotti your captions state that it proves his technique wasn't so great. Don't you think you contradict yourself there? For one high C mistake, you are going to knock his whole technique?
+Giovanni Formisano - THIS PERSON DON'T KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT - HE IS FUCKING JERK!!!! hE DOE'SNT EVEN WORHT TO WASH LUCIANO PAVOROTTI'S FEET!!!!
+Emin Guliyev I'm just saying that these are human beings and they make mistakes. And, if he wants to show these clips to remind us that even the greats can have a bad day, that's okay but, one cannot discount an entire career for a bad day on the job!!
YES!!! BUT YOU AND ME, WE KNOW ABOUT THIS PHENOMENA - MOST PEOPLE LIKE TO TRY AND FIND THE "BAD DAYS (AS YOU SAID)" OF THESE FAMOUS PEOPLE ONLY TO PROVE THEMSELVES THAT THOSE GREAT AND FAMOUS PEOPLE ARE NO GOOD TO THEM!!!!!!!!!! PSYCHOLOGY!!!!
Jesus, here I am again - there's something about TH-cam where you don't intend to, but keep ending up at the SAME video over and over again. And it's painful more than funny.
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We are all humans, even the best ones as Dimitrova, Pavarotti and Carreras make mistakes...that is the beauty of being human...
LP destroyed his voice by dramatic roles... Carreras, pavaroti can't produce a dramatic repertoire! Even operatic music. And drankan lady is too mistake of human? 😁
@@Monnarchmonnarchy I heard a story, that she wasn't even drunk. Del Monako heard about death of somebody of her best friends and took too many pills .
I think they chose the roles, that may not be suitable to the.
This is BETTER than what I hear from the Met. these days.
Yah I'm guessing it's soulless garbage like everything else after 2007
Very much the case.
Pavarotti would have been the first to critique his performance and admit any fault he found. He was not pretentious in the least nor bothered by mistakes. Makes him all the more respected by me. His technique was excellent and held up throughout his lifetime of singing. As for pointing out all these "disasters", I hope no one ever suffers the humiliation one feels when it happens to them. I've been there and the self-recrimination is enough without others poking fun!
Peg Chandler I feel your pain girlfriend say it loud I am not perfect! Repeat it over and over again till you go into a trance and start convulsing. LOL life isn't all about Opera. There's so much more things to do in this world look around enjoy yourself visit other worlds other cultures learn other languages help those in need. Understand what I'm saying that's what I did and continue to do my wife and I are very happy married for 45 years we are both 67 years old our life is very full we have a lot of friends they all know I could sing it's not a big deal I will perform for them once in awhile just for my pleasure and their pleasure because I love my friends I don't need anyone's approval adulation Etc take care love yourself
When Pav was booed at La Scala after Don Carlo, in an interview he said he deserved it because he didnt do a good job, basically.
Pavarotti tenía una voz maravillosa pero técnicamente era anárquico. En los 90 su carrera comenzó con un declive que se hizo cada vez más patente con el paso de los años.
@@jesusmunoz2400 He did decline as is natural with age, but his technique was excellent and without blemish. Anarchic? No, sorry, not true.
@@arnoldamaral7406 Exactly. Pavarotti knew that and that's why he didn't worry about "disasters".
What concerns Dragana Del Monako: this soprano wasn't drunk, Mro.Steblyanko recently told me that she took some pills, and they did so bad to her...
Took some Pils, yes.
She is a mezzosoprano
6:51 This is the greatest and most sublime voice crack in history
In Pavarotti's defense this is from the night of his Met debut. He was quite ill, but didn't want to cancel because of the brevity of the situation. He canceled the next 2 performances and then returned for the 4th when he was feeling marginally better.
Matthew Brooks what you’re telling is incredibly interesting. I’d never imagine Pavarotti cracking in his debut at the Met.
@@BaritoneDeLaTorre This is true. Pavarotti had been singing Lucia in San Francisco leading up to his Met debut and he got Hong Kong Flu. Talk about horrible timing. He sang two or three Bohemes, cancelled his remaining 20-30 performances for the remainder of the 1968-69 Met season and went home to Modena to recover. He didn’t return to the Met until 1970.
I am an opera singer. I am quite new in the business (5 years now), and listen to all these great singers cracks, or failure or whatever you want to call them does not make me laugh, but it makes me respect even more there hard work. Singing is not an easy thing to do (no matter what a lot of peoples think!), and everyone in this business had their "black periodS" included the best of the bests! When I listen to these "perle here" it just tells me that we can and should allow us to make mistakes
Plus, since the advent of widespread recording, we are so used to listening to singers on tape/CD/etc that are edited, redone, etc. we sometimes forget.
AfroPoli, I keep coming back to your videos year after year. For me, the editing is the outstanding part. Your captioning is so dryly hilarious.
“To play a wrong note is insignificant; to play without passion is inexcusable.” I am with Beethoven on this one. Except for the drunk singers, they are just bringing some good old fun into the world... If we leave out those who paid 80 dollars or more for a ticket, that is...
When it’s only one flat note, it’s okay. But it’s the whole line or the song, it’s a bit problematic !
I am an opera freak - this is great better than a glass of wine.
Thanks-John
6:53 HAHAHAHAHAH man, he had to be doing that on purpose! Sounds like Tarzan.
This ought to make us appreciate perfection.
Singing lyric opera, is the vocal Olympics, and those artists are heroes
I hope the drunks were promptly fired. Mistakes happen, but there is no excuse for coming to a performance drunk.
If you can't deliver then yeah it's justified to get fired. They might not be drunk out of arrogance though, it's probably a sign of deeper personal issues.
There have been actors and singers who.have given their best performances while drunk.
@Jeff Andersen Dean Martin used to pretend to be drunk, it was better for his image in those days.
Thanks for posting this and the other videos. It's refreshing actually. It helps to shut up a few of the snoots who say the greats never messed up, as though they were gods. Seems a lot of people forget that there are human beings on stage sometimes.
I actually give full credit to singers who throw everything into their performance they have ... even if it might not be 'their' evening. So yes - superstars have a bad day too...and? What is the point? Bad today - brilliant tomorrow. How boring would perfection be?
Perfection is what you paid to see. 😉
The "drunk" extract reminds me of a performance on The Magic Flute in which Sarastro appeared drunk for Act II. As he gestured down at the knife for Pamino, his house keys fell out of a pocket with a great clatter. He carefully tidied them away and continued!
a friend saw Tibbett dead drunk in Cleveland, but pushed onto the stage, sang flawlessly.
Just shows that operatic singing is more scary than facing hungry lions in a Roman circus. Bravi to all that give it a go!
love Pavarotti. .. he sounded lovely even choking on that high c!
I wrote "and that's what makes this otherwise excellent video..." meaning that the video deserves attention.
I don't have opera idols, but I give Pavarotti the respect he deserves for being much more technical than many young contemporary singers who push themselves beyond what they should.
I recommend to all of you Ethan Mordden's fabulous book, "Demented". He presents the marvelous thesis that there are two kinds of performances that opera goers cherish. One is demented: the singing is exquisite, takes you beyond this living realm and transports you to another dimension and makes sex trivial for a significant period of time. The other is filth. Filth is the performance that is like a train wreck that you can't look away from. You sit there, knowing that for the rest of your life you will be able to tell people that you were there for such spectacular bad singing that they will hate you even more than for all the demented performances you have seen!
It gives us some comfort that even those we admire and love have off-performances. I have a dvd of a Pavarotti platform performance somewhere where he's obviously had a good session the night before- sweating profusely and no energy in his singing on the dvd. I'm not looking forward to the day when everything is "air-brushed", touched up by the engineer. We already have average singers 'holding' notes longer than Pavarotti; gawd knows what other tricks they are getting up to. The day dawns when all opera will be mimed so we can see the 'singers' dance, lick ears, and reveal there chests.
I went too far today and watched a video of David Phelps singing Nessun Dorma. The whole thing is a black pearl. And he got wild applause.
This happens to ALL OF US.... these Great Singers don't have auto-tune... it's the real deal.... though some singers were famous for their reliability.... the very best can crash.....
Eech and every operasinger (or any singer!) has bad days - yet we expect them to perform perfectly! Always!!
Where did you get all these recording? I actually think these are very valuable. It teaches us that we are all humans and make mistakes. Thank you for sharing these!
Love drunk soprano.
Pava had a great knowledge. Here he teaches how to save a crack with dignity.
The tenor who sings Celeste Aida in this gallery IS NOT Carreras, and I do wonder how you can not recognize one of the most recognizables voices ever. I ignore who he is, but certainly not Carreras.
Dimitrova may have slipped a high C but she lands well. With good taste, dignity and totally professional....
Actually, Berger’s career went on till the late 60s, singing mostly recitals. She just sensibly dropped the queen of the night. (And her substituting d’s for the f’s was clever).
One comment to Erna Berger:
She is 50 at the time of this recording, already singing over 24 years professionally - and yes it is not a good idea to sing this role, if you don't had the high f.
But her voice - besides the the region beyond high d''' - was still in perfect condition ( Sophie and Gilda from the Met!!) until the sixties. And as Mike Richter put it : "Even in her old age she sounded like a twenty year old girl".
So her career wasn't over just yet.
That's true, and I've always liked Berger. It was just not a good idea to sing the Queen.
On occasion of her 80ieth bd she sang a Schubert song - and it just takes your breath away. Such beautiful steady tone. I am not even sure whether this is Berger in that sequence. What an awkward video. To me Erna Berger was one of the great geniuses of the 20th century and one of its most outstanding voices!
“It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.” ~ Theodore Roosevelt
6:50 Here comes the ambulance
Matt Moves ahahahahhahaha xD
Matt Moves hahahahahahaahhahahaha im totally dead hahahahahahaha
But he won the Alpine yodelling contest hands down.
To sing Opera as a solo for making a career is one of the world's hardest thing. As young man or young woman you must get a talent ,to study for the entire life,to travel a lot ,to give up a lot of things that normal persons do......in the case you get a great success is even worse , because you feel the responsability don't disappoint the audience and everybody wait for a special performance.
This is why Franco Corelli was so nervous before every performance. He was a decent man. a perfectionist and didn't want to disappoint the audience, but it costs him a lot.
You know, these voice cracks are really useful because they reveal how the singers approach various notes.
Interesting that Dimitrova’s problem with the C sounds just like Tebaldi’s in the 1959 Paris performance.
Yes, exactly.
She handles it very well knows she's not going to make it so withdraws no cracking or squealing
I was in the auditorium during a performance of Norma where Adalgisa sings her high "C" during a duet with Norma. What resulted was a scream that sent a wave of tension throughout the audience. I thought the opera would come to a halt but it continued as if nothing had happened.
Maybe a somewhat greater disaster is that, in today's world, very few people would have a clue whether or not a singer is anywhere near pitch, let alone any more refined or subtle aspect of their performance.
A Tenor is always walking the tightrope. Most people do not understand how fatigue, jet lag, illness, allergies, colds and a myriad of other factors affect the voice. When a Tenor cracks it isn't pretty. To say that Pavarotti didn't have a solid technique is not true.
Thank you for saying that. It's true. How often have I seen it happen, that a singer is very indisposed and wants to cancel, but is put under pressure by the management of an opera house - or his/her own agent, who wants to collect the fee - to go on anyway.(And that happens a lot, believe me.) Besides anyone can have a bad day, for whatever reason, but to collect such moments and post them in youtube under the title Perle Nere is actually quite hateful.
Judging by the tone of the video, I'm going to take a wild guess here and say that the bit about Pavarotti's technique was a joke.
@assindia, agree. Just because it has the disclaimer that it isn't meant to be hateful, doesn't mean it isn't. Delighting in someone else's suffering is cruel and evil.
UppityG Livestockian and pathetic,my friend.
You can learn from their mistakes in some of the technique used in the video, as an opera singer myself, I can hear some of the misuse of the vocal techniques. Some fail due to them singing the wrong repertoire because their voices aren't suited for the arias, and some of the professionals here just had a bad night of course. Learn from it, and laugh at it, one of the greatest arias says laugh, and the audience will applaud you. I laugh and learn from my own voice breaks, and am still on the road to perfecting my own technique, but I don't see these videos as hateful, I know I'll steer clear of singing Celeste Aida because as a lyrical tenor, my voice isn't made to sing that aria, and I could damage my voice without flawless appogio support and an adequate amount of breath. Other Bel Canto singers can use this video as a guide much like I had, and sometimes it's reassuring to know that even the greats have their bad nights. Learn and laugh is what I say, I laugh because I've been there, and I've messed up just as bad as Jose Carreras in public. For those that don't understand the art of Bel Canto singing that are here laughing, let them, they may not see Opera the way we do, but at the very least we as performers entertained them, and in the end, that's our goal, to entertain the crowd. I once had to push through the aria Every Valley Shall Be Exalted in public, with a raspy voice and it wasn't pretty. I had children and adults dying of laughter while I was dying on stage, after the performance an old man and his grandson came up to me and thanked me, because "they hadn't laughed like that in a very long time." I took a bow and carried on, healed, and the next week performed that aria again in my prime. in the end I fulfilled my duty, and entertained, that 1st night, and the second time through, came back and fulfilled my duty to the composer. I got laughed at, laughed, learned, and came back and performed flawlessly. Laugh and Learn. This video is not hateful. :)
Erna Berger's career lasted considerably beyond 1950 - she retired in 1960 and did very high profile performances throughout the 1950-s.
On occasion of her 80ieth bd she sang a Schubert song - and it just takes your breath away. Such beautiful steady tone. I am not even sure whether this is Berger in that sequence. What an awkward video. To me Erna Berger was one of the great geniuses of the 20th century and one of its most outstanding voices!
Listen to the 1954 Salzburg Don Giovanni under Furtwängler. She is a sublime Zerlina - at 54 years of age
She had been singing 25 years when this was recorded; I think it sounds pretty remarkable!
Lol the guy who sang as Amonasro got totally drowned out by the orchestra!
Gracias por estos divertidos videos, AfroPoli!....esto me confirma que, despues de todo, Domingo no es tan malo! ahahahaha!
Some operatic voices age gracefully, but many do not. There are many stars who have (thankfully) retired from demanding roles and/or have retired from public performances altogether. I prefer to remember them when they were in their prime.
Carreras at 6:52 is a total star of this selection!
That s not Carreras for sure
Beverly Sills sang the Queen of the Night quite often in the early days of her career but eventually gave up the role. Considering the five high F's Mozart wrote into the role, Sills's decision is quite understandable.
There was one with Milanov and she was performing Norma (a role she wasn't really fit for and by the 60's, her voice was completely ravished) and Maria Callas is in attendance. Callas goes to the back and reassures Milanov to allow her to continue but it didn't do as much.
4:25-5:04 is quite extraordinary.
It's from the final scene of Carmen. A very serious part of the opera turned into a comedy.
we need more of these ...
I am crying with laughter. And cringing. In equal measures. Thank you very much, this is hilariously bad.
It is extremely mean to post this. Singers are human beings and need all our respect for doing such amazing performances in front of thousands of people every night. Any of you who enjoys that should try to get where they got!
definitely, it's educational for students to realise we are all human and things can go wrong.Just carry on!
Jose Carreas is doing a good Tarzan impression at 6:48
Il quartetto del rigoletto con grilli mi ha fatta sgangherare dalle risate:tutti stonati!!!
A mí también. No podia parar de reir.
When I was young I could warm the voice up in a hurry and sound great. Then one day I was asked to sing with very little warm up, but I knew I never needed much.....well I cracked on the first note, and when I went to hit my high A....you would have thought 2 cats were fighting in a sandwich bag. It was not pretty, and I knew now I was no longer young, and would need more than a few scales to warm up.
Well, but Erna Berger was already 50 in 1950. Thanks a lot for the posting though. I enjoy listening to them just like watching America's Funniest Home Video--they are just humans and are of course subject to occasional mishaps.
I would triumph in this category - bliss!
Por favor. La técnica de Pavarotti entre los 60 los 70 y los 80 era perfecta. Todos nos enfermamos. Todos nos deprimimos. Todos los cantantes tienen malas noches por excelsos que sean
Del Monako at 4:34...OMG!!! I don't want to be mean, but DAMN!!! This is unintentionally hysterical!!
Some howlers may offend fans here, I think, but it goes to show that even great singers like Pavarotti can trip up and have off-days.
At 77 years old, I would like to see you sing Otello, one of the most difficult. great Bergonzi
Once you're too old to sing, retire. It's that simple.
No singer does justice to a role if they cant sing the notes.
Péssimo comentário. O cantor tem que saber a hora de parar.
I also have a lot of trouble believing that was actually Jose Carreras singing the Aida excerpt. Maybe Rhadames was a bit out of his fach, but he certainly had a secure b-flat, nothing like the Tarzan bellow we hear in the recording.
The remark about Pavarotti is below the belt. WAY BELOW THE BELT, it’s so easy to criticise isn’t it? Get up on the stage before 2000 or 20,000 at Verona and see how you can perform then. This is aimed at all of those who like to to criticise so quickly,
Steven Davies I totally agree with you it's not easy when you are an artist and everyone expects you to be spot on every single performance. This is so unrealistic to expect someone with a great voice to give a great performance every time he sings an opera or in concert Etc. What we must endure to please the masses having a beautiful great voice does not mean you do not get nervous when I'm stage Corelli is a great example Aragal at times also suffered from nerves. It is really not natural to perform and these large Opera Houses and everyone expects you to be perfect and there is a great outdoor Opera performances Arena di Verona Orange Etc. Steven I totally agree with you! People that do not sing or have no Talent or don't have a voice it's very easy for them to criticize a great opera singer. Another words walk a mile in my shoes! No need to reply to my comment Steven understands. Arnold Bourbon Amaral I too had a beautiful tenor voice in high school my concert teacher and the boys choir teacher as well wanted me to pursue a career in Opera they said you can easily get a scholarship to study voice at the University. And from there you can go to Juilliard. I've told them very quickly I am not a performer I sing for my own pleasure they could not relate to it because they could not sing very well themselves. and they would repeatedly say to me you have such a beautiful quality to your voice it would be such a waste for you not to sing Etc. They like the other people that criticize did not understand but having a beautiful voice doesn't automatically gives you the desire to sing in front of thousands of people it is not normal. There I said it Steven understands I hope the rest of you will in a certain way.
Erna Berger retired at the age of 60 in 1960. As for her not hitting the high F's on target, I've heard a hell of a lot worse. A LOT worse!
Ich denke, etliche wären sehr glücklich, wenn Sie die hohen Töne so „nicht hätten“ wie Erna Berger.
Poor Carreras! He's practically yodeling in his efforts to hit the note. And Bergonzi, a personal favorite, had no business taking on Otello.
Comment #2. Pavarotti - whom I heard many times in full operas and in concert - didn't have that great a High C. People get it wrong. There have always been tenors who could sing a High C but usually they were small voiced tenors who sang in comedies - like 'Daughter of the Regiment'. It wasn't that Pavarotti was the first guy who could sing it he was in his own words the first guy 'with a voice' who could sing it.
Those are his words.
The Met has almost 4,000 seats. Tenors with small, high voices would be in trouble singing there. I once knew a chorus tenor who claimed he could sing a G above High C. Maybe so, but you couldn't hear him a foot away.
That 'King of the High Cs' stuff was malarkey. Domingo was the only tenor who challenged Pavarotti early in his career and Domingo certainly had no C. So they devised an ad campaign. Many of the best tenors never had a C either - Vickers, King, Caruso, Melchior, Del Monaco (?).
Thank you for those interesting comments.
AfroPoli Rather I should thank you.
+cooloox You don't seem to have read what I wrote. Pavarotti did say that he was the first 'singer with a voice' to sing Tonio. Or at least that was the quotation that was in the press. It was a quiet well known statement at the time and there was some truth to it. He had a good sized instrument except at the very top where it got thin and wiry. Sutherland thought of The Daughter as an showpiece for her. The tenor part was typically sung by a small voiced high voiced tenor. It was a specialty part. When the young Pavarotti sang it with a much bigger voice than was common it was a sensation. But Pavarotti was never a real 'high note tenor' like Fillipeschi or Bonisolli. He became captured by his own publicity,
+Patrick Boyle Thanks for the clarification. I did misinterpret you first time around - I should have read your post properly without skimming over it. I apologise for that.
Alexa Vasile Yet another expert with yet another theory about Pavarotti.
There is nothing mysterious about Pavarotti. He had a lovely sound and excellent technique. He was too fat but why would anyone think that that killed his high notes?
He sang very well for a very long time. Most tenors begin to have trouble with their highest notes after fifty. Pavarotti kept his top longer than most.
Domingo never lost his High C - because he never really had one. He admitted that in public many times. But Domingo like many big tenors had originally been a baritone. He reverted to being a baritone when he got into his seventies. Also a very natural development.
But Pavarotti was never a baritone. He was always a tenor and when he got late in life he just became a slightly lower tenor than he had been when he was younger.
Emma Berger certainly wasn't TERRIBLE, she just didn't have a high F and sang the rest beautifully. Could have been Florence Foster Jenkins. The drunk soprano is hysterical.
Wow.. some of that was pretty brutal. Not that I am the picture of virtue, but as a director and performer, I do not tolerate anyone drunk onstage or otherwise "under the influence". I have sent home a performer prior to a performance who I knew had been drinking and I took his place onstage. Could he, half-in-the-bag, have still performed better than I ? Perhaps, but that is not the point. Respect the stage, respect the production, respect the company, and respect yourself. If this viewpoint offends anyone, sorry.
Erna Berger was 50 in 1950. It might be expected that at that age the high notes don't come as easily as before.
If Pavarotti could have a mistake onstage, then who can't? Great vid! XDDDD
That Queen of the Night is a killer for anyone with a normal voice, as Florence Foster Jenkins could tell us.
This video is terrifying. Simon, Jose, Ghena and Luciano are all my heroes. This should be taken down lol.
I love Pavarotti so much, it made me kinda sad to hear him crack
6:45 That was extremely comedic, and I have a feeling that the audience still left entertained, if not in quite the way they had expected.
It sounds like he's been thrown off a cliff :'D
I wish there were more recordings of Steblyanko. He's actually very good.
These clips are inspiring
Umberto Grilli - Not a big star but a good tenor. I heard him in Florence. I have some of his recordings. Most people will never had heard of him. It's just cruel to highlight a rare bad performance.
Danielle Barioni - A great but little known singer. Many of his recordings are defininitive. His Nessun Dorma recording for example is the probably the best. Why he quit so young is usually considered a mystery - probably something personal - not an inability to sing in tune.
I wonder how many opera singers, or at least amateurs, there are in this comment section - so much sensitivity. I thought it was funny and interesting to hear. It is only the same as watching sports stars make mistakes, have accidents, and such. Not very mature perhaps, but no need to be so hotly against it.
you can tell from the moment he started singing that pavarotti was having a really bad day.
I admit I like to listen to some nice cracks taken by singers who I admire so much ... so I remember that they are always human beings. Maybe caught in their early performances, when still the excitement played tricks on them.
Then there are the unpredictable events such as sudden lack of voice or throat inflammation, that force our hero/heroine to invent something to close the scene before the replacement. That's funny if you consider it just a hiccup in their magnificent carreers.
1:38 "every ... note ... is half a step flat" - in hopes you see this despite being >10 year old vid: I know a problem like this, when the vibrato is wrong such that one only releases tension, i.e. pitch moves downwards only, like e-guitar lever. Thinking of a note in your mind, which is correct, but only moving downwards with vibrato, the perceived center pitch will be a half-step flat (assuming the viobrato's total span is 2 half steps). Do you know this problem? Is there a good way to "train it away"? Because I think I have it, lol. In my mind, it is the right note, but the vibrato is uneven +/- pitch wise.
Weil, losing tension (“support”) prematurely and/or overly heavy singing might lead to it. I have had a couple of cases like that, the problem has never been a musical issue but a technical. Good luck!
Aquellos que han cantado alguna vez sabran que la voz esta pegada al cuerpo y este, a su vez, a una mente. SI la mente o el cuerpo se afectan, la voz lo hace igual. No todos los dias nos levantamos con la misma energia, la misma mente y ni siquiera con el mismo cuerpo (a nivel celular). Las grabaciones de estudio no tienen estos "accidentes" por obvias razones. Hay que ver mas presentaciones en vivo y tener en cuenta que se va a ver personas cantando, no maquinas.
Mistakes always happen since singers are human beings, can be tired or ill or can have a bad evening. Honestly some comment seem excessive like as "Pavarotti technique was not so good" . Everybody remember some accident happened to th great Luciano, here or in Lucia and Don Carlo at la Scala but this is totally unrelated with technical knowledge that Luciano owned at maximum level. Rodolfo Celletti, great vocal expert, was always saying that cracked notes are more common in singers with good singing technique since they do not force sounds and sing "sul fiato" . This make easier that in case they are tired or not in good conditin the breath support is missing.
Cracks are funny but remember that it happens to legendary singers of all times like as Gayarre, Francesco Marconi, Enrico Caruso etc etc
This may seems a little rough, but you've catch good things, it's actually hear how they do mistakes to learn. It's a hard work, you cannot go high to the opera or you're out right away
Pier Miranda Ferraro - It is interesting that he can't follow the score. In the Bay Area about twenty years ago we had a local tenor named Mike Scarpelli who sang in the opera bars. He was a sensation at the Met Auditions but never advanced. He was the master of the random entrance. He could sing to his own mandolin but not to an orchestra. This kind of musical defect is much more serious than an ocassional crack on a high note or going flat once and a while.
I just learned from this video that opera singers are human beings.
In defense I would like to state that singing on that level is extremely hard, and a slight cold will already cause your throat to produce a series of horrible sounds that seem to lead a life of their own and that you simply have no control over. Add fatigue and stress, and you have a succesrecipe for disaster. It;s a bloody miracle it doesn;t happen a lot more often, really.
I enjoy listening to these things, lots of fun. I just hope you are someone with a stellar consistent opera career, otherwise you just earnt a whole buch of bad karma!
No need to boo the singers if they crack. It happens to everyone, especially the tenors. I think if you are singing "unnaturally", it's actually very hard to crack. So cracking is a good thing to some extent.
Placido Domingo once cracked so badly in Stiffelio that he could not continue singing. The audience did not boo him. Instead they applauded him. Good for them.
Pavarotti's technique was so good that it sounded easy for him- normally- everyone has a bad day .
It must be embarrasing as well as terrifying when something goes wrong on stage live. I suppose those who are veterans know how to cover a line up, but I think you just have to breathe and move on. I would hate to be at the La Scalla and this happens. That crowd knows their opera and will not spare their feelings when they don't like something even at a live performance
Opera singers usually have to sing very sick at some point in their careers. They usually don't have understudies ready in the wings at all but the biggest houses. Add to this the amount of fatigue that a typical production week entails, and consider that usually in Europe there is only one day (if the singer is lucky) between the dress rehearsal ( at which it is now de rigeur to sing out) and opening night, often with only one day between subsequent performances, and you see how accidents happen. If a singer wakes up in the morning and the top isn't there, and she cancels, there is no show, so the management urges her to go on, assuring her that whatever happens is understood and will be all right, and then some jerk illegally recording in the audience posts the thing on TH-cam. You really should take this down, and all the others like it.
Diva7Va Brava for your comment! I cannot BELIEVE I wasted my time listening to all THREE of this man's posts. I am too tired to comment directly to him, but one day, IF I feel it is worthwhile, I will tell him why he is a frustrated pseudo NYT critic, hiding behind a keyboard, who was most likely a huge fail in his OWN career....if he even ever sang ONE. NOTE. of operatic repertoire. Did you see Pts 1, (i initially found a bit amusing) but then part 2...and finally Part 3. He truly revealed himself to me. Er ist ein Esel......bien sûr! ....and if he sees this before you do, I am quite certain, he will delete this comment. quel idiot et hypocrite !
bravaLiz :) Yaaaaawn.
AfroPoli I apologize to you for my "rant"... as per the yaaaaawn, you obviously SO don't care. Perhaps you will post up some of YOUR "stuff".... goofs....whatever.... or teach US all about the rudiments of vocal technique? Sorry for being snarky. Hey..... In the end, it's a HUGE.....whatever.
I sincerely do apologize.
bravaLiz OK, cara. 1. Try using arguments instead of personal attacs; 2. what does my singing have to do with the subject matter? 3. If you say that someone who judges singers has to be able to sing (an idiotic fallacy, hence the yawn), please post some videos of you singing, because also your opinion, no matter if negative or positive, is a judgement. So, if you believe that pt 3 is valid, please post your singing. Otherwise be quiet. Thanks.
That is just plain awesome, cant stop laughing...
Also, Berger was Furtwangler's Zerlina in 1954. A wonderful performance.
Unfair comment about Pavarotti - his technique was usually faultless - his voice “closed” unexpectedly on that note, and he dealt with it remarkably well.
Also, this was young Pavarotti, he said himself his technique wasn't perfect until he met Sutherland.
Thank you!
AfroPoli...Pavarottis recording was from 1968, still in his prime...he was sick that night. It had nothing to do with his technique.
In your disclaimer, you say that there is no malicious intent and that it's just to show that even the greats can make mistakes! Well, in the case of Pavarotti your captions state that it proves his technique wasn't so great. Don't you think you contradict yourself there? For one high C mistake, you are going to knock his whole technique?
+Giovanni Formisano - THIS PERSON DON'T KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT - HE IS FUCKING JERK!!!! hE DOE'SNT EVEN WORHT TO WASH LUCIANO PAVOROTTI'S FEET!!!!
+Emin Guliyev I'm just saying that these are human beings and they make mistakes. And, if he wants to show these clips to remind us that even the greats can have a bad day, that's okay but, one cannot discount an entire career for a bad day on the job!!
YES!!! BUT YOU AND ME, WE KNOW ABOUT THIS PHENOMENA - MOST PEOPLE LIKE TO TRY AND FIND THE "BAD DAYS (AS YOU SAID)" OF THESE FAMOUS PEOPLE ONLY TO PROVE THEMSELVES THAT THOSE GREAT AND FAMOUS PEOPLE ARE NO GOOD TO THEM!!!!!!!!!! PSYCHOLOGY!!!!
+Emin Guliyev of course, some people are sciacalli! they take any opportunity to kick someone when they are down.
I know exactly what you mean!
By the way I wish you a happy Christmas!!!!
Jesus, here I am again - there's something about TH-cam where you don't intend to, but keep ending up at the SAME video over and over again. And it's painful more than funny.
Oh Lord. How could I have forgotten this recording? It includes one of the most obvious splice jobs ever (one Domingo's high notes of course)....