I lived in Edgware between 1977 and 2007. When we moved in it had a nice high street with smart shops. We had some lovely meals in the Railway. It has gone downhill a lot. I was there a few weeks ago and it was very depressing.
Thanks Mark.We lived in Garden City. Edgware was a jewel 50 years ago thanks to the foresight of Leslie Raymond and the tube in 1927. It began to go into decline when Brent Cross opened. You are correct, the possibility of additional car parking for Sainsbury's is on the cards. There is much wealth in Edgware but crime makes it a dangerous place to be.
Born in Edgware ( Redhill) in 68. A great place to grow up as a kid. I moved away years ago. I had to go back for a funeral a few years ago and was shocked how run down it was . A real shame.
I was born in Edgware in the 70s and lived in Broadfields, had the best days of my life in the 1980s the place started to go down hill in the early 1990s, I'm in Brent now, and moving away to the South coast very soon, I miss Edgware of the 80's and hate what it has become now.
All the good people moved out. Now you have a multi cultural mix who don't care a jot about the history of Edgware or even in looking after the area. Happening everywhere in England now. We were sold out by our politicians over decades and none of us have stood up to it for fear of being called 'nasty names' . We only have ourselves to blame.
Thank you for sharing this video, I have lived in Edgware for 28 years and see this pub almost every day, I have a very faint recollection of it being open as well (but was too young to ever go in) This part of Edgware is in terrible disrepair and the state of it is awful, you only have walk another 1 min and see Mason's Arms on the corner of the A5 and Whitchurch Lane which is an absolutely atrocious eyesore, I have been inside out of curiosity and it was a very tired old pub although it seems to have occasional busy days (pre-covid lockdown of course). An additional side note, there is an issue with that crossing traffic light system, the number of car accidents and the awful road layout has meant pedestrians and drivers have been killed on that crossing, this is an issue of it being at the boundary of Barnet and Harrow, neither have bothered to take responsibility. On the Harrow side, you can see the developments slowly popping up, although not high rises, the few new apartment blocks coming up around LIDL and down the A5 are promising as this area is in huge need of investment and redevelopment. You can then look at the other 2 office blocks on the A5 opposite to LIDL and they look tired and about to crumble. The wasteland you were standing in is absolutely awful and it has been in this state for more than a decade, there is a small new block of flats next to that wasteland which you can see if you go through the alleyway between the wasteland and the Broadwalk shopping centre car park. The Shopping centre is due to be sold soon (of course covid19 is making this harder a little bit) but it has been on sale since last October. The sale will be successful given that there is a strategic development opportunity right next to Edgware station and the land available to build blocks of flats here will be supported by Barnet Council. My opinion is that this area needs this investment, you cannot leave it to continue to fall into disrepair, the wasteland and very old office buildings are attracting the worst of London, the number of drug users and homelessness in Edgware has increased visibly in the last decade. You need more housing, you need more affordable housing and you need to remove the area of all of the trash eyesore office blocks and undeveloped prime land like the waste site you are standing in. As for the Railway Hotel, it is Grade 2 listed and therefore should continue to be protected, it has changed hands frequently and hopefully, none of the owners will destroy it, but its location and beauty is one that owners may exploit in future and so the council, Historic England or some museum needs to step in and further protect it. I can only think of a partnership with the private owner and council (or Historic England, or a museum) to reposition this building into something useful; some combination of restaurant, bar, cafe, museum, library. Colindale is extreme, I hope Barnet council does not go that way with Edgware, there needs to be a balance between good useful affordable development and a Colindalisation of the area. It is up to the council and the planning authority to force any potential developments to include enough affordable, keyworker, and genuinely affordable housing. This balance is something not necessarily easy to find given that development is expensive, the council doesn't necessarily own this land and therefore cannot partner with developers and private developers are only incentivised by profit. Without that ability to profit then this area will remain as a wasteland as shown and so it is promising that there is some development that will happen.
Only just seen this video live in Suffolk now so not been to Edgware for a long time a mate of my dad’s worked in that metal shop as for the railway hotel in the 80s the first floor was a great carvery had many a pint in there with friends & family can remember when they served Truman’s so sad to see
Born in the old Redhill hospital just before the NHS came into being. Spent some of my childhood on the Broadfields estate and other once respectable areas of NW London. Schooled at ESM and loved being part of the local community that grew up and frequented the Beehive, Leather Bottle, Green Man and Hammers plus The Ritz. Its very sad to see a once prosperous and lovely area go into such decline. Much of my teens was spent around Edgware and Mill Hill either in the pubs.or cinemas. Just glad I had the foresight to move to rural Nth Herts. in 1971, get married buy a new house and begin a new chapter in my life. Thankfully I have no family to visit in NW London anymore just ashes buried around the area.
Hi Rog...... good vid. My Grandmother's buried in St Margarets, and I worked at Chas Wright's for a while when I was a lad, although I don't actually remember doing much work! And it was a sad day when The Railway closed (and the railway line!). Anyway, what a contrast. Serenity on one side of the road, and a wasteland on the other! Best, your friendly foe!
I was born in Edgware, it used to be the nicer part of the area when you didn't want to shop in Burnt Oak. Various factors have destroyed both areas but I'd say the final nail in the coffin was mass migration from Romania, which resulting the rubbish, drunks, flytipping, thiefs etc. What a shame.
You are correct, it's been done on purpose, for those who don't know, research the WEF and their Great Reset Agenda, they are destroying many countries with mass migration basically. I grew up in Burnt Oak during the 70/80's, moved away 23 years ago now, what a shit hole now, I feel so sad.
Mark I think you will find that some of that land was the old railway sidings.Mullards Ex WD stuff was sold there.If you can find a old 1950s Exchange And Mart you will see their advert in it.Mullards was to later be known as MFI.Good Luck on your work.
I lived in Edgware between 1977 and 2007. When we moved in it had a nice high street with smart shops. We had some lovely meals in the Railway. It has gone downhill a lot. I was there a few weeks ago and it was very depressing.
Funny the number of times the old railway pub has a ‘convenient’ fire.
Great video, I remember drinking in that pub. When edgware was really nice.
Thanks Mark.We lived in Garden City. Edgware was a jewel 50 years ago thanks to the foresight of Leslie Raymond and the tube in 1927. It began to go into decline when Brent Cross opened. You are correct, the possibility of additional car parking for Sainsbury's is on the cards. There is much wealth in Edgware but crime makes it a dangerous place to be.
Born in Edgware ( Redhill) in 68.
A great place to grow up as a kid.
I moved away years ago.
I had to go back for a funeral a few years ago and was shocked how run down it was .
A real shame.
Such a shame. Had my wedding reception at the Railway Hotel in 1979.
I was born in Edgware in the 70s and lived in Broadfields, had the best days of my life in the 1980s the place started to go down hill in the early 1990s, I'm in Brent now, and moving away to the South coast very soon, I miss Edgware of the 80's and hate what it has become now.
All the good people moved out. Now you have a multi cultural mix who don't care a jot about the history of Edgware or even in looking after the area. Happening everywhere in England now. We were sold out by our politicians over decades and none of us have stood up to it for fear of being called 'nasty names' . We only have ourselves to blame.
Thank you for sharing this video, I have lived in Edgware for 28 years and see this pub almost every day, I have a very faint recollection of it being open as well (but was too young to ever go in)
This part of Edgware is in terrible disrepair and the state of it is awful, you only have walk another 1 min and see Mason's Arms on the corner of the A5 and Whitchurch Lane which is an absolutely atrocious eyesore, I have been inside out of curiosity and it was a very tired old pub although it seems to have occasional busy days (pre-covid lockdown of course). An additional side note, there is an issue with that crossing traffic light system, the number of car accidents and the awful road layout has meant pedestrians and drivers have been killed on that crossing, this is an issue of it being at the boundary of Barnet and Harrow, neither have bothered to take responsibility.
On the Harrow side, you can see the developments slowly popping up, although not high rises, the few new apartment blocks coming up around LIDL and down the A5 are promising as this area is in huge need of investment and redevelopment. You can then look at the other 2 office blocks on the A5 opposite to LIDL and they look tired and about to crumble. The wasteland you were standing in is absolutely awful and it has been in this state for more than a decade, there is a small new block of flats next to that wasteland which you can see if you go through the alleyway between the wasteland and the Broadwalk shopping centre car park. The Shopping centre is due to be sold soon (of course covid19 is making this harder a little bit) but it has been on sale since last October. The sale will be successful given that there is a strategic development opportunity right next to Edgware station and the land available to build blocks of flats here will be supported by Barnet Council.
My opinion is that this area needs this investment, you cannot leave it to continue to fall into disrepair, the wasteland and very old office buildings are attracting the worst of London, the number of drug users and homelessness in Edgware has increased visibly in the last decade. You need more housing, you need more affordable housing and you need to remove the area of all of the trash eyesore office blocks and undeveloped prime land like the waste site you are standing in. As for the Railway Hotel, it is Grade 2 listed and therefore should continue to be protected, it has changed hands frequently and hopefully, none of the owners will destroy it, but its location and beauty is one that owners may exploit in future and so the council, Historic England or some museum needs to step in and further protect it. I can only think of a partnership with the private owner and council (or Historic England, or a museum) to reposition this building into something useful; some combination of restaurant, bar, cafe, museum, library.
Colindale is extreme, I hope Barnet council does not go that way with Edgware, there needs to be a balance between good useful affordable development and a Colindalisation of the area. It is up to the council and the planning authority to force any potential developments to include enough affordable, keyworker, and genuinely affordable housing. This balance is something not necessarily easy to find given that development is expensive, the council doesn't necessarily own this land and therefore cannot partner with developers and private developers are only incentivised by profit. Without that ability to profit then this area will remain as a wasteland as shown and so it is promising that there is some development that will happen.
Only just seen this video live in Suffolk now so not been to Edgware for a long time a mate of my dad’s worked in that metal shop as for the railway hotel in the 80s the first floor was a great carvery had many a pint in there with friends & family can remember when they served Truman’s so sad to see
Thank you for this. I have lived in Edgware for 24 years !
Born in the old Redhill hospital just before the NHS came into being. Spent some of my childhood on the Broadfields estate and other once respectable areas of NW London. Schooled at ESM and loved being part of the local community that grew up and frequented the Beehive, Leather Bottle, Green Man and Hammers plus The Ritz. Its very sad to see a once prosperous and lovely area go into such decline. Much of my teens was spent around Edgware and Mill Hill either in the pubs.or cinemas. Just glad I had the foresight to move to rural Nth Herts. in 1971, get married buy a new house and begin a new chapter in my life. Thankfully I have no family to visit in NW London anymore just ashes buried around the area.
My great great grandparents, James and Sarah Ingold ran the Mason's Arms pub for about 25 years until 1890. Very very sad to see all this rot.
Hi Rog...... good vid. My Grandmother's buried in St Margarets, and I worked at Chas Wright's for a while when I was a lad, although I don't actually remember doing much work! And it was a sad day when The Railway closed (and the railway line!). Anyway, what a contrast. Serenity on one side of the road, and a wasteland on the other!
Best, your friendly foe!
What a shame edgeware is a great place hope the council,cleans it up
I was born in Edgware, it used to be the nicer part of the area when you didn't want to shop in Burnt Oak. Various factors have destroyed both areas but I'd say the final nail in the coffin was mass migration from Romania, which resulting the rubbish, drunks, flytipping, thiefs etc. What a shame.
You are correct, it's been done on purpose, for those who don't know, research the WEF and their Great Reset Agenda, they are destroying many countries with mass migration basically. I grew up in Burnt Oak during the 70/80's, moved away 23 years ago now, what a shit hole now, I feel so sad.
I uesd to work in edgware, just by the church .i n bernies also used to hang about the station lots on a sat night
Why on earth would anyone build a huge car park in London, in this day and age? Echoes of the 1970s!
Mark I think you will find that some of that land was the old railway sidings.Mullards Ex WD stuff was sold there.If you can find a old 1950s Exchange And Mart you will see their advert in it.Mullards was to later be known as MFI.Good Luck on your work.
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