Will I Regret Leaving Academia for an Industry Job?

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    --- Will I Regret Leaving Academia for an Industry Job? ---
    A common worry that I hear about a lot when I travel and speak is from scientists who worry "Will I enjoy industry? Will I regret leaving academia?"
    I think this question is harder for PhDs than Masters, and even harder for for anyone leaving academia after a postdoc. The more time you spend in academia, the harder it is to make the transition from academia.
    I know I worried about leaving academia for industry. I’d spent enough time in academia that I realized it probably wasn’t going to be the best path for me. But I didn’t know anything about working in industry, so I was worried. Will I miss academia? Should I get a postdoc position just so I can think about it longer?
    I can’t tell you if you will like academia or industry better. That’s a decision you have to make for yourself. But I can tell you that I was worried about it, and 20 years later, I never regret leaving academia.
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  • @cherisemcbridephd5372
    @cherisemcbridephd5372 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    These are helpful, even for me as a social scientist. The points about expanding our conceptualization of "job security" are compelling. Academia and its adherents paints a cult-like picture of staying on that track and it can feel hard to "break out" somehow, especially at elite institutions.

    • @TurningScienceVideo
      @TurningScienceVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the kind remarks, Cherise. I'm so glad that you found it helpful!

  • @strayorion2031
    @strayorion2031 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly what drives me more to the industry side is the fact that I won't have to grind those 10-15 years before finally getting tenure, getting my first good paying job until my 30's sounds like a lot to me

    • @TurningScienceVideo
      @TurningScienceVideo  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, that is a real benefit of an industry career!

  • @JWali
    @JWali 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video! I would love to see you conduct a panel discussion including people with successful careers in academia vs industry.

    • @TurningScienceVideo
      @TurningScienceVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the great idea. I’d love to do a panel like that in a live setting with Q&A.

  • @HellRaiZOR13
    @HellRaiZOR13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Definitely the reason you said is what keeps me to decide and pursue career in Industry after I finish my PhD.

    • @TurningScienceVideo
      @TurningScienceVideo  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m glad it resonated with you. Best of luck with your industry career!

  • @brandontr8946
    @brandontr8946 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You must have a great sense of observation I suppose. I also pay a lot of attention to my academic supervisor's mindset and realize their work behaviors have been long moulded into the world that they are sitting in. More importantly, I don't want to follow that path. You are absolutely right, the eagerness to learn continuingly is very crucial. Thanks for sharing!

    • @TurningScienceVideo
      @TurningScienceVideo  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the feedback. I'm glad that the message resonated with you. Bon courage for planning your own path!

  • @adkjani1
    @adkjani1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I enjoy publishing papers as well as the idea of mentoring graduate students, which is why I like the idea of becoming a professor. It is not always easy to do those things in the private sector in my field (agronomy).

    • @TurningScienceVideo
      @TurningScienceVideo  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, perhaps an academic career is best for you, and that's great. However, you may want to consider a customer facing role such as Product Manager or Applications Engineer where you might be able to write articles about the products and technology your company sells. And any kind of leadership role in industry will give you a great opportunity to mentor others on your team.

  • @dribrahimel-nahhal2477
    @dribrahimel-nahhal2477 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for posting David. I appreciate it

  • @Dr.Shymaa
    @Dr.Shymaa ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Dr I really appreciate the knowledge you have given us in this video

  • @yasamint4968
    @yasamint4968 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These videos are really for me. Thank you.

  • @vanessaphd
    @vanessaphd ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this video. This is great.

  • @gradschoolsucks
    @gradschoolsucks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video, thanks for sharing

  • @SuperMiketron
    @SuperMiketron 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you, very informative! You deserve more viewers

    • @TurningScienceVideo
      @TurningScienceVideo  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! I'm so glad you found it helpful.

    • @justacasualplaylist2955
      @justacasualplaylist2955 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree. His video is so essential for an academia undecided about industry or stay there.

  • @johngato7661
    @johngato7661 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I finished my PhD a few months ago, I got a job at the largest food manufacturing company in my country, I hated every second of that job, the pay was meager, the shifts where stressful and very tiring, but the worse was the coworkers, I quit and stayed without income for a couple of months, now I got an offer for a position as associate professor in the collage I got my BSc, with Tenure granted after 6 months to a year, and with 4 times the payment that industry could offer me, without nights shifts or retarded bosses pushing me around, the only bad thing is the infernal heat of that region, but I’ll endure. I guess industry is not for everyone

    • @TurningScienceVideo
      @TurningScienceVideo  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for sharing your story. Yes, it is true that industry is not for everyone. Academia can be a wonderful career choice for many. It's great that you have found a good fit for you. Bon courage for developing a successful and rewarding career!

    • @envitech02
      @envitech02 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Industry not for everyone. It's tough and hot and very results driven. Not suitable for everybody.

    • @HellRaiZOR13
      @HellRaiZOR13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@envitech02 AND YOU THINK ACADEMIA IS NOT. I mean what you do in academia just strive to get results that can be published nothing more. Everything in the world is result oriented. Tell me if you wont publish papers or bring in the grant do you think University will still keep you. The only thing that matters is what you enjoy to do in the Job. While I agree that Industry not for everyone so is Academia. Every workplace has dark side we just gotta try to dodge it.

  • @atriacharya2967
    @atriacharya2967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What he wanted to say was: get a PhD in engineering if you like research and apply your knowledge in industry for the rest of your life!

    • @rajns8643
      @rajns8643 ปีที่แล้ว

      Close enough🤣

  • @salwamansurali6243
    @salwamansurali6243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for sharing this wonderful information. I have recently completed my PhD in Biology and currently want to pursue my career in industry. Can you share the link of “ways to impress an interviewer “. Many thanks

    • @davidmgiltner1161
      @davidmgiltner1161 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm so glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for the feedback. The link to the video is in the video description below the video. Make sure you click the 'Show more' to show all of the notes and you will find it right there.

  • @RadioNul
    @RadioNul 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for this video

  • @acer4237
    @acer4237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you work in industry then go to academia, it’s a shock to the mind and wallet.

  • @A8.Z
    @A8.Z 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I work as Teacher in academia for few years and I am about to graduate PhD in Pharmacy major in Biomedical Science on February 2020 and I am thinking of trying to work in an industry. Thank you for this video.

    • @TurningScienceVideo
      @TurningScienceVideo  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish you well in your career planning. Thanks for the feedback!

  • @Drbob369
    @Drbob369 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you will regret not finding a job at all

  • @lyeschalah8877
    @lyeschalah8877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! We can feel that you're very honest and willing to share your experience with us. I'm about to complete my Ph.D thesis in Algeria and I'm determined to work in industry. Do you think i can do a master's program in Europe and work there, even though i hold Ph.D degree ?

    • @TurningScienceVideo
      @TurningScienceVideo  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I suppose that's always a possibility, if you want to do a Master's in a different area than your PhD. Are you thinking that is a good way to move to a different country? If so, a postdoc is another approach to relocating. I generally don't recommend a postdoc for people who want to build an industry career, but if it moves you to a country where you want to live, it may be worth it.

  • @letobon100
    @letobon100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks a lot! Nice video. I got my PhD eight years ago, and during this time a have been professor in a colombian university, where I am from. Now, I am plannig to move to industry in Europe. What advice can you share me to find a good job?

    • @TurningScienceVideo
      @TurningScienceVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! I’m glad you found it helpful.
      Regarding your move to industry - I wish you well. Big question with no simple answer, but the big thing I’d suggest is that you define a target. Pick one or two specific areas where you would like to work. It could be a specific technology, or perhaps an application, or even a cause, such as renewable energy or genetic engineering to cure cancer. But a target is important, as it gives you focus. You can research and find people in your target area to speak with and learn from. You can figure out how your strengths fit what they need.
      Bon courage for your transition! Very exciting!

    • @envitech02
      @envitech02 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      As a business owner, it's tough to get a job during the pandemic, but good luck to you!!

  • @MrProy33
    @MrProy33 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's just a job, man. People quit jobs and take new ones all the time. It's not a big deal. You say "leaving the academy" like that actually means something.

    • @seanrrr
      @seanrrr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I don't think you know much about academia. It's quite a different career path that you don't just jump back and forth into like other jobs. Most professors follow a very specific path, from PhD, to postdoc, to assistant/associate professor, then achieve tenure. This is decades of buildup and vigorous work. If you leave, it's not like you can change your mind and get right back into a tenured position.

  • @VijayGupta-nu9jl
    @VijayGupta-nu9jl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi, I am in great dilemma, I got job in one of the multinational company located in country India as a scientist position and withing one month of joining I also got postdoc from the reputed university in Poland for one year. Now, One side I have permanent company Job and another side one year postdoc from number one university of Poland. What should I do?

    • @TurningScienceVideo
      @TurningScienceVideo  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Vijay Gupta - I rarely suggest a postdoc position as the best path to an industry career. You have a permanent company job. That’s awesome! Why reconsider?

    • @VijayGupta-nu9jl
      @VijayGupta-nu9jl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TurningScienceVideo Thank you very much !!

    • @pritam9873
      @pritam9873 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VijayGupta-nu9jl which company brother, m from India too

  • @yavarjn2055
    @yavarjn2055 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it possible to be in both? Or be an entrepreneur?

    • @TurningScienceVideo
      @TurningScienceVideo  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely you can be an entrepreneur! Check out this one: th-cam.com/video/-0HW9O0Fu2s/w-d-xo.html

  • @yavarjn2055
    @yavarjn2055 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Depending on the job it is much easier to get some industry approved certifications and impress the interviewer. For example Oracle OCA and OCP certifications can get you lot of credit to work as a Java programmer. What do you think?

  • @drbonesshow1
    @drbonesshow1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Will you regret looking like Lyle Lovett?

    • @TurningScienceVideo
      @TurningScienceVideo  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol - good one!

    • @drbonesshow1
      @drbonesshow1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TurningScienceVideo I'm a physics professor that's what I do - tell jokes.

    • @davidmgiltner1161
      @davidmgiltner1161 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We need more of that. Keep it up!

  • @nehabothra417
    @nehabothra417 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this great video, I just finished my phd. I am looking for postdoc position out of India ( my current place), i want to do a job in an industry. Is it possible to get a job in industry from India? Can you please suggest something?

    • @TurningScienceVideo
      @TurningScienceVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A postdoc can be one of the easiest ways to relocate to another country, and that makes it easier to find a permanent job once you are there. So, even though I don't generally recommend a postdoc for someone who wants a career in industry, that may be your best option now. Companies will generally prefer people who don't need to get a visa as a condition for employment. Can your advisor help you find a postdoc in the country you would like to move to?

    • @nehabothra417
      @nehabothra417 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TurningScienceVideo Thank you for replying. Yes, he has suggested some places and I am applying. I was also thinking the same that to relocate postdoc might be the only option.

  • @soccersprint
    @soccersprint 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    LOL. You will not regret leaving academia.

    • @TurningScienceVideo
      @TurningScienceVideo  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sounds like you might have a great story to share…

  • @TheActiveAssault
    @TheActiveAssault 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    No. You won’t. Academia is a scam

    • @alibaba8266
      @alibaba8266 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      how ?

    • @frankchen4229
      @frankchen4229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alibaba8266 low pay

    • @emmanuelameyaw9735
      @emmanuelameyaw9735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Industry is a scam too....just choose which scam you want.😀😀. That's it.

    • @rajns8643
      @rajns8643 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emmanuelameyaw9735 Exactly🤣🤣🤣

  • @sushilangelo
    @sushilangelo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    your presentation shows that you are definitely not made for academia

    • @TurningScienceVideo
      @TurningScienceVideo  5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Good observation. I think you are probably right.

    • @yasaine7896
      @yasaine7896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @MaxPan well that snide attitude of yours certainly fit a certain type of snob academia