Ride elements for mechanics translation guide
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.พ. 2024
- That’s a dive loop, no that’s an immelmann
Do mechanics know the elements on all the rides?
No -- far from it in fact.
Well….. some do, and more power to them.
Im dumb when it comes to this subject
Why do manufactures spend so much effort to name their ride elements.
Gives them something to sell, gives parks something to sell to the general public.
Enthusiast to maintenance translator
Or thoosie / goon to greasmonkey translator
Check out their website at coasterforce.com
And their channel @coasterforce
The NoLimits 2 work was done by Tim C
Tim C TH-cam channel @WolfRaging95
Tim also did non-inverting elements I didn’t cover as well. Here’s the link
coasterforce.com/elements/ - บันเทิง
I posted the link for Tim C non inverted elements also on Coasterforce website. The link is in the video description.
As a former mechanic...I was well aware of a lot of things on a ride...
But I'm guilty of calling things a different name...
The big over-banked turn on Cannibal at Lagoon I call it a skateboard turn...cause of the visual you get as if you were skateboarding ...lol
Or the batwing or boomerang .....
But....I like to know things and proper terms if able to...
BUT I'LL TELL YOU THIS....
How I actually got my job as a mechanic was not being afraid of heights and also I watched a lot of Discovery channel on Rollercoasters and how they are built and read a lot of articles and watched a lot of TH-cam videos...
And built a huge knowledge of rides...so what I didn't know came easily when explained...
And knew what was what...
But what I didn't know was simple and also funny...
Like a grease fitting is called a zerk and wire cutters were called dykes ...
But anyway...as long as we all know what needs to get fixed and it gets fixed and up and running were all good...
Same. Had no industrial background I just loved the rides and wanted to know as much as I could. And they hired me for it. WIN
@ryantheridemechanic Right same... I figured since I could not get the chance to design rides I'll work on them....or install them if it's in-house.......
@@ericcartman3385 totally agree.
Let’s start a petition to officially rename the “roll over” to the “jellybean loop”!
I like it!!
Call it the Jelly Belly Inversion
The jelly bean loop is the best name for the SLC rollover I've ever heard. It is perfection
LOL I love it when people tell me "you can't do..." after I just did exactly that. And when they do, my reaction is just like yours!
😂
Jelly Bean Loop 🤣🤣🤣 that's the PERFECT description of that SLC loop
Holy crap....... I never even knew coaster force had a website😂
Google elements and almost every result is theirs.
For most mechanics it would just be 1st turn, 1st loop, 2nd loop, corkscrew etc. haha. I even know a few mechanics who work on rides for years and have never ridden a rollercoaster. Themepark enthousiasts might be suprised that it just a job for some of the employees.
A lot of mechanics worked with never put thought into it at all. Just collecting a check.
I used to do enthusiast tours and even had the opportunity to get "difficult" credits. Someone even once offered me the use of his kid to get the Taxi Jam credit, but I did not want to go that low (especially with someone else's kid). A friend and I did get on the Pteranadon Flyers at IOA one time however - we were to get there right at opening and they let us on. Credit chasing isn't someone I don't do much of these days - when I went to Winter Wonderland in London several years ago, my priority was to get on Olympia Looping. Same goes for Coney Island - got on the Cyclone and wisely skipped the Volare.
Having worked on Black Mamba last offseason, there are points of the ride that have official names, because there are water sensors there (since we have to be aware of water that might be too close to the clearance envelope). Some are named after elements (loop, Immelmann), while some are named after theming elements (snake, crocodile), while one is just called "swamp".
I have a feeling a lot of time is spent in the swamp haha
These names are so funny. Your commentary is top notch 🤣🤣
Thank you
This video was hilarious 😂. My brain can't keep up with all the names of these different inversions. I just call them "Loops" and "Inversions" . I'm a coaster enthusiast. However, I don't know how other Enthusiasts keep up with this 😂
Yea it’s a lot. I’m glad it’s not just me, I was feeling out of place haha!
Shoutout to the Polar Express soundtrack fr
there is an inversion that it doesn't have on the site that I really like known as the Lagoon Roll. It's two back to back heartline rolls in opposite directions, and on Cannibal (the only coaster it's on right now) you take it so slowly, it's amazing
I’ve seen lagoons stuff. Looks like they use a private engineering company to build custom stuff. Loos really interesting. Love the common sense designs I see from there. Still trying to figure out the primordial drop / swoop track.
@@ryantheridemechanic yeah, it's still a work in progress that's for sure, but the fact they did it themselves is impressive, and the slide track is actually pretty fun as well, though the drop track is better
Thanks for the shoutout, Ryan! :) I was just informed of this video and will be watching now.
thank you great work!
@@ryantheridemechanic you’re most welcome, Ryan! I’ve subscribed to you! If you are interested, my channel has a lot of NL2 content. 😊
One of the first things I ever learned in tech theatre is that remembering exact terms isn't nearly as important as the essence of communication. There are regional differences in vocabulary and plenty of situations where it's unsafe to have everyone shouting over loud noises because you could miss someone shouting "heads!" or other safety warning phrases. Sometimes miming something is just convenient and it works. I'd imagine drawing a coaster element in the air with your finger would be more universally understood than memorizing all the terms in a technical setting.
When I was like 14 I would constantly forget what channel lock pliers were called. For the rest of our strange arts high-school experience, everyone in my class knew what I meant by "talky-dinosaurs" and the way I mimed them. I didn't do it in college, but it certainly worked in high-school and it was silly enough to brighten our days.
Well put
Came for the ride content, staying because of the racing references lol
You never know what you find here.
Top of the lift on a lay down/flier is a lie to fly and that description is A+ my favorite element ever.
Also the animation of the inline twist is a poor representation, the only model I can think of is the Mauer skywheel/skyloop models that has a proper inline twist
You may be interested to know that the Jo-Jo Roll got it's name from Joe Greene, Dorney Park's VP of Rides and Maintenance at the time Hydra was being built, after he asked the element was possible.
That’s interesting. Thanks!
Sounds like a facinating watch , cant wait to finish it , great video ❤
Had my very own roll over last fall. I ran over someones right front wheel that was not supposed to be there. Long story. Basically, guy attempted to slide job me, and didnt quite do a good job. Drove right into the side of me. Damn sprint cars, and their big, uncovered wheels. My wife told me that I came real close to clearing the catch fence. I spent a few days with the shop closed, and the boys had to take care of the animals after that one. My wife begged me to get a late model, but sprint cars are WAY more fun. Should be all set to go here in a couple months.
Scary! I’d say maybe an IMCA modified but nothing quite tops sprint if you’re already there! Of course I’m partial to pavement late model cars but thats just me.
@@ryantheridemechanic my dad's friend had a pavement late model. I drove it for him when I was 15-18. Then he got a dirt bug up his butt, and bought a mod lite. I drove that for him until he passed away. Bought the whole setup from his wife, and then moved into a micro sprint, then a wingless sprint, and now I'm running a 410. I made a deal with my wife, that instead of getting another sprint car for our oldest, we will get him a modified, but there is zero chance of me giving up sprint cars. How many people can say they've been lapped by Donny Schatz? Well, a whole lot. 🤣 But how many people from a small farm town in Central Ohio can say that? Well, probably a couple.
@@Spike-sk7ql nice! I can say I passed Tony Stewart in a sanctioned Nascar race! I feel that’s worth something.
@@ryantheridemechanic That's freaking great! I beat Dave Blaney at his own race track. In his defense, he was having an awful night. I'm not all that bad, otherwise I wouldn't do it. It's really expensive.
@@Spike-sk7ql so cool. I was towards the rear of the pack but Tony was in a borrowed car so he was having issues and I’m sure not damaging the car was in the front of his mind. Not to mention he had to race at sears point in 14 hours. But I was able to pull it off.
They should have put Joker at Discovery Kingdom as the example for the Step Up Under Flip (first flip on that ride) - that's where RMC coined the name, and Twisted Cyclone doesn't have one 😂
I believe it was listed I. The text. I read a lot but cut a lot out as I’m not good at reading out loud. Sound very robotic. Yuck
Always thought a Heartline roll was where the roll axis passes through the seated position of the approach. It effectively spins on its axis rather than rolls around the centre line....Then again I'm often wrong 😂
I think it would be interesting for you to walk through maintenance steps within NoLimits. I know things have been explained in other videos but the visual aid would be nice.
Interesting. Hmmmmm
I really appreciate the compliments, Ryan. I was wondering if you knew that they have non-inversions on their website too. It’s right where you found the inversions.
Yes I saw the non inversion, just didn’t have the same feel as the inversions. Loved the graphics I know that must have taken a while to make all of those.
@@ryantheridemechanic I’m glad you did get to see them. I think they are also informative, but the inversions are requested more often. CoasterForce is a great group of people.
@@WolfRaging95 I also just added the link you sent in the video description as well.
@@ryantheridemechanic perfect! Thank you so much, Ryan! 😊
"you can't just generalize them" "well I can I just did"
That's maintenance versus thoosies in a nutshell 😂.
If you think there would be enough to talk about, would you be able to do a video talking about how maintenance differs from permanent amusement park rides to temporary, on-the-road, traveling fair/carnival rides? I've always been under the impression that carnival rides can't be very safe if they're being repeatedly assembled as quickly as possible and torn down a month or two later. I also often associate these temporary parks as putting profit over safety. I could be completely wrong though.
I’m making a tracking safety. I bet this will fit right in.
As an enthusiast elements are too confusing. Like come on. Flying snake dive, trick track double up, step up under flip, corked roll, fear helix, mossasouars roll, jojo roll, and your favorite the sea serpent roll aka the place the floorless coaster valleyed. The list goes on with these wild names. I know too many
Ha! That’s why I wanted to do a video like this. People say you know the step under? And I look at them like a cow looks at an oncoming train…… I respond with “the track?” Haha!
I'm not thoosie enough to know all different types of inversions. I basically know the cobra roll, corkscrew, and loops 😂
Same!
We are ALL goons on this blessed day.
The new coaster at Dorney has a “tilted loop” and they’re calling it an inversion but it doesn’t even fully go upside down because it’s a loop tilted down on its side. I just wonder like at what degree angle of a loop is steep enough to classify it as an inversion
Don’t know if there is an official angle but if you think of yourself sitting upright at 0° rotating to the right like a corkscrew I would think 120-240° would be considered inverted but that’s just me.
135° is considered the threshold for an inversion. So sayeth RCDB.
Oh this is going to be a GOOD one... You fix the shit.... You don't design the shit...and BTW...Coaster Force is the SHIT. ALOT of theme park content creators reference CF and CF Videos.
I'm pretty sure the top gun stall is only on twisted colossus, because you're supposed to be looking down at the other train while you go through a stall (although it almost never duels anymore). All others are just zero g stalls.
That makes total sense. And you can keep up foreign relations while doing it 😂
Doesn't your RMC have a Step-Up Under Flip as the first inversion?
Performance Issue Loop is now my name for the Inclined Loop because it couldn't get fully erect.
Imagine That in its later years. Poor thing hahah
@ryantheridemechanic Give it some time and it will just be a helix 🤣
Medusa goes , loop, dive loop , zero g roll , sea serpent 4:13 , MCBR, corkscrew , corkscrew . Write it down 😅
No way. I’ve come this far I’m not about to start using correct facts! 😂
Only B&M Floorless to have a sea serpent roll in place of a cobra roll
Station, lift hill, first drop, vertical loop, dive loop, zero g roll, sea serpent roll, mid course brake run, corkscrew, corkscrew, final brake run
can you please on one of your videos talk about maintenance on flat ride
Yes. Anything in particular you looking to talk about?
Wouldn't it just be better to have some sort of numbering system, so problem is at support 5? And not worry about what marketing is calling the twist in the track today?
At the mechanics level they don’t readily have access the the layout prints that call out where the support is. You can record the number on the leg for sure. But you still have to put it in basic terms to explain to other mechanics or engineers.
Are Larson Loopers roller coasters? If not why? What makes them so loud?
No a Larson loop is a flat ride sure to the lack of free run track and constantly in contact with the drive system. My opinion.
They are loud from all the nylon wheels. And the hollow structure. Perfect amplifier.
is a barrel roll different than an inline twist? I think the banana roll bends over less than the cobra roll
All looks like track to me.
@@ryantheridemechanic looks like you got a new shirt. I dig the colors
@@dindog22 thanks. Fall colors. My wife’s good at that stuff. I always love my grey Batman shirt but change it from time to time.
A barrel roll is based around the heartline of the train, basically the same thing as a heartline roll or a zero g roll. An inline twist rolls around the center of the track and is flat and taken at a slower speed.