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I get a bunch of high bill complaints every year.. people thinking their meter is wacky or they must have a leak. Usually it comes down to either 1- nothing, or 2- some change in usage. I can question them all day, but they never want to admit it was due to their kid coming home from college taking two long showers a day, laundry and cranking the heat while they leave the doors and windows open and the faucet running. Very, very rarely have I ever clocked a meter and found anything out of whack.
Are people so ignorant now that they can’t READ THEIR BILL and compare USAGE per month instead of dollars? Gas usage is in CCF’s right on the damn bill. Do some research folks, get curious, use your brains and the information the supplier gives you, plus knowing your own energy demands over the past months! NOT THAT HARD but maybe everyone is out to find someone to blame rather than self-inspect. Or just getting dumber and lazier.
@@dock_yard1149It's a whole new breed of customer today. I had a family the other day who physically blocked me from locking their gas meter. They had not made a payment since spring, but demanded I couldn't lock them. I left before the machetes came out, we returned with the sheriff later. That sort of thing never used to happen, but it's becoming more common today.
Also, every year price of goods and services go up while their money/income stay the same. Or, or they need to go work and make more money to cover the difference.
Steve, it's not natural gas prices, they've been going down pretty fast in Massachusetts according to the charts I looked at. A 300% increase is huge so that would indicate a problem of some sort. I think it's those burners. That soot build-up can really impact your heating bills as it makes your furnace very inefficient Good work.
You know when you do these kind of jobs that ain't going to make a difference to gas consumption but you tell the customer it's for peace of mind and its great for cashflow
Guy’s complaining about “300 percent” jump in billing since last year. Cleaning out burner tubes isn’t going to bring that back down all that much. And no boiler or furnace is gonna suddenly become that wasteful inside 12 months unless a bird or critter is blocking the chimney. But the dude’s an engineer and neither he nor Steve mentioned what’s the difference in CCFs of gas he consumed this month vs 12 months ago. Can’t compare dollars to dollars, gotta compare USAGES of the product. The damn gas bills have this extra info in them, you have to analyze it all to isolate causes better.
You have to keep an eye on the gas meter and keep a record of usage especially if it is a digital one. They have been known to have a mind of their own. Not the analogue ones they can't be controlled from external sources
Great work Steve. Just curious as to why you don't do combustion analysis on these units when you do these services. Wouldn't that be something that should be performed ?
Priceless! Jesse this wad just awesome! Great to see your love Jeannine! Putting up a metal shed is a sure test of a marriage. We’ve put up four in our 46 years. When can you get the ability for us to contribute individually to support your channels?
Propane up here it doubled. It's stupid-nuts. Lynyrd Skynyrd - Simple Man (Audio) We have to chimney sweep periodically, and saw/split and dry wood. Really impressed how you have to figure things out, and the conversation pieces with customa (practice my N.E. accent)..
i'd drill a small hole in that metal exhaust pipe just above the damper motor and take a CO Reading there just to see how it's burning. flame rollout ensures chimney and heat echanger arent substantially blocked but it's nice to check CO on that natural drafts
They actually make little plugs specifically for plugging those holes. Every plumbing supply sells them. On an atmospheric boiler there's no reason to cover the hole though. The entire bottom of the draft hood is an open 12x10 or bigger rectangle. Nothing will leak through a 1/4 inch hole. Draft will keep it at negative pressure.
The Midwest is having a really warm start to the year. We really haven't had our snowfall so far. We be mid 30s, where we would normally be in 20s and 30s. Plus, by now, we would've had a few snowfalls by now. Next week, we're supposed to get some snow. The storm is hitting the Eastcoast, but skipping the Midwest.
If you check your gas bill every month, it should tell you the amount of gas you use. I make a note of the CCF usage every month; then you can tell how much gas you are using. Then you can verify your gas bill to see if you have a problem with your gas unit. *** Just a Thought.****
I love when Steve drops the "Queer". I'm just waiting for a sensitive homeowner to get offended. Watch out Steve he was an engineer which most likely makes him a DEM. Lol. He's most likely all about electric cars. 😂😂
So manny differnt things you can check for high bill investigates... how much does the customer wanna spend is the question... but then again they were just complaining about their gas bill so...😅
God i hate high gas usage calls. Turn your dam thermostat down. People are total idiots sometimes. Feel like im explaining the facts of life to a dam 9 year old.
Many channels are making their videos longer, more talking and more people, less work. Probably due to TH-cam pushing and making $$ more dependent on commercial interruptions.
People need to be looking at the usage and not the $ when it comes to utility bills. Like you said, everything has gone up in cost but you might not be using more.
Half of my gas bill is the fuel adjustment fee. 25 dollars in gas used and 25 dollar additional fuel adjustment fee plus taxes and whatever other fees.
And guy would know that if he read his bills and compared to the same month’s bill last year. He’s an engineer but he sounds lazy and doesn’t look at all the usage & misc fee info on his bills. Dum dum.
Steve great video. Did you look closely at the last couple of minutes or so where you can see some arcing near the electrical connector for the white wire near where the flame sensor goes into the sheet metal above the burners? Just something to look at since it appears to arc several times through those last few minutes when the camera is pointed and the heater is running. May be a loose electrical connector.
Thats not an arc... that the peep hole for the burners... only looks like an arc because of the camera angle. The flickering is the flames from the burners...
Steve I’m surprised you didn’t take a mirror and inspect the sections and the flue probably need a brush and vac job, he probably wanted you gone asap.
I have found doing handyman work around Massachusetts, many people don't have near enough Attic insulation they have an R rating of 20 in insulation when here in new England you need a rating of R 42 rating minimum and the other factors 20+ year old leaky windows and doors, of course the burners going to keep calling for heat in those conditions
A current vid from Steven! Wow! What a treat. With Miss Molly too! Yea, I've written many a comment on your sites here about my "SMITH" boiler, a meare 45 years old. Gone I'll tell ya. Used one o those chainfall rigs to winch the thing out a the basement. Off to the metal scrapyard it went. Put in one of those Bedurus four section boilers with a Rieallo burner. Had to vent it. Drilled a three inch hole right through the foundation plate and a little room with a vent down low for the new chimney. All good now. Amazing what a little fresh air does for those blower burners. Very efficient, house is nice and warm as I write this. Now on my second season with it. I could not have even begun this project without your good guidance. Thank you so much for sharing all that you do! I'll tell ya! Thank you again. ～✨👍✨～. Nahampsha here.
Nice video Steve. Probably wasn't burning clean either; combustion efficiency was likely not so great. Gas has gone up substantially. Some homeowners think you have a magic wand to just make all their problems go away hah
Yep your right, just paid my gas bill and the price just went up again in my area paying almost double the price that I was paying before January 20 2021
@@Ander5806 - Same here. A lot of these gas companies can charge whatever they want. Not regulated. So it has nothing to do with what natural gas is going for.
My gas and electric bill really dropped when I installed my new furnace. I believe the old supply plenum was leaking because it looked like the duct board was patched together by an amateur. My neighbor had to replace his plenum because the installer didn’t staple the flaps on his old plenum. It was just taped and it came apart.
Friends had their system audited. The amount of air loss was insane. Patching up the plenum and some duct repairs knocked close to 40% off the bills for heating/AC.
@@jblyon2 I did one of the energy audits, and ended up having my ducts sealed a month ago. Supposedly, they got an 85% reduction in leakage. Not sure yet how that will translate to savings, as it's been only a month but also through the holidays and corresponding increases from that. I have noticed that the house seems more evenly heated, and the heat doesn't seem to be running for as long. Time will tell on that one....but certainly older homes were built without consideration to efficiency and savings, for sure.
Steve, i just wanted to thank you being a great person when i called in with an emergency. Russ from lakeville
I guess my heat bill is higher because I'm in my 70s and don't like being cold. Rather spend it for that than for crap I don't need. :)
Me: oh your thermostat is set to 85. The customer: yes. Me: But in the summer you have it at 65? Cust: yes.
I get a bunch of high bill complaints every year.. people thinking their meter is wacky or they must have a leak. Usually it comes down to either 1- nothing, or 2- some change in usage. I can question them all day, but they never want to admit it was due to their kid coming home from college taking two long showers a day, laundry and cranking the heat while they leave the doors and windows open and the faucet running. Very, very rarely have I ever clocked a meter and found anything out of whack.
Thanks for you work guy! really!
Are people so ignorant now that they can’t READ THEIR BILL and compare USAGE per month instead of dollars? Gas usage is in CCF’s right on the damn bill. Do some research folks, get curious, use your brains and the information the supplier gives you, plus knowing your own energy demands over the past months! NOT THAT HARD but maybe everyone is out to find someone to blame rather than self-inspect. Or just getting dumber and lazier.
@@dock_yard1149It's a whole new breed of customer today. I had a family the other day who physically blocked me from locking their gas meter. They had not made a payment since spring, but demanded I couldn't lock them. I left before the machetes came out, we returned with the sheriff later. That sort of thing never used to happen, but it's becoming more common today.
Also, every year price of goods and services go up while their money/income stay the same. Or, or they need to go work and make more money to cover the difference.
I am a service tech for a gas company, I normally check the meter reading first and go from there .
I enjoyed the disassembly of this unit. Great banter as usual too.
Maybe you should check the heat exchanger to.
It's boiler,if the heat exchanger was bad it would be leaking water.
I clean my chimney for my woodstove every year & my Weil & Mclain Boiler every year!Great video Steve
Happy New Year Steve! Yes prices for fuel suck unless you got loads of cash...like yourself!
Steve, it's not natural gas prices, they've been going down pretty fast in Massachusetts according to the charts I looked at. A 300% increase is huge so that would indicate a problem of some sort. I think it's those burners. That soot build-up can really impact your heating bills as it makes your furnace very inefficient Good work.
could also be a leak somewhere in the supply pipes after the meter.
You know when you do these kind of jobs that ain't going to make a difference to gas consumption but you tell the customer it's for peace of mind and its great for cashflow
Your a fraction right. Effectiveness in a clean system makes a difference in usage. Oil or GAS
Guy’s complaining about “300 percent” jump in billing since last year. Cleaning out burner tubes isn’t going to bring that back down all that much. And no boiler or furnace is gonna suddenly become that wasteful inside 12 months unless a bird or critter is blocking the chimney. But the dude’s an engineer and neither he nor Steve mentioned what’s the difference in CCFs of gas he consumed this month vs 12 months ago. Can’t compare dollars to dollars, gotta compare USAGES of the product. The damn gas bills have this extra info in them, you have to analyze it all to isolate causes better.
You have to keep an eye on the gas meter and keep a record of usage especially if it is a digital one. They have been known to have a mind of their own. Not the analogue ones they can't be controlled from external sources
@@alanc1406Another conspiracy theorist!
Cleaning the burners and combustion chamber is not a bad thing, but it’s not going to reduce gas consumption by two thirds.
Great work Steve. Just curious as to why you don't do combustion analysis on these units when you do these services. Wouldn't that be something that should be performed ?
Yes and check the gas pressure
Hope you did a combustion test after all that suit
Nice job she needed a good hi you doing for sure
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Priceless! Jesse this wad just awesome! Great to see your love Jeannine! Putting up a metal shed is a sure test of a marriage. We’ve put up four in our 46 years. When can you get the ability for us to contribute individually to support your channels?
Propane up here it doubled. It's stupid-nuts. Lynyrd Skynyrd - Simple Man (Audio) We have to chimney sweep periodically, and saw/split and dry wood. Really impressed how you have to figure things out, and the conversation pieces with customa (practice my N.E. accent)..
$1.89 here not too bad.
i'd drill a small hole in that metal exhaust pipe just above the damper motor and take a CO Reading there just to see how it's burning. flame rollout ensures chimney and heat echanger arent substantially blocked but it's nice to check CO on that natural drafts
obviously tape it closed after with duct
They actually make little plugs specifically for plugging those holes. Every plumbing supply sells them. On an atmospheric boiler there's no reason to cover the hole though. The entire bottom of the draft hood is an open 12x10 or bigger rectangle. Nothing will leak through a 1/4 inch hole. Draft will keep it at negative pressure.
Good service call. That furnace efficiency will be higher
You’re good to Miss Mollie, Steven!
Yep. It’s that inflation the government swears we’re not having 😂🤣😅
did you check gas pressure? Combustion test?
The Midwest is having a really warm start to the year. We really haven't had our snowfall so far. We be mid 30s, where we would normally be in 20s and 30s. Plus, by now, we would've had a few snowfalls by now. Next week, we're supposed to get some snow. The storm is hitting the Eastcoast, but skipping the Midwest.
If you check your gas bill every month, it should tell you the amount of gas you use. I make a note of the CCF usage every month; then you can tell how much gas you are using. Then you can verify your gas bill to see if you have a problem with your gas unit.
*** Just a Thought.****
Give her the Ole how ya doing Steve!
Steven, thanks for the Saturday Shitshow.
Howdy Steve and Molly
Is that an HB Smith ?
Maybe he has the thermostat higher up than last year
No fee on debit only credit
Who said “being cheesy” when Steve said it’s not easy….
God I’m watching too many of these videos…..😂
I’m surprised you didn’t check combustion. Maybe it could’ve been running a little rich and you could’ve adjusted the gas valve. No?
More pipe dope Moma
how much does this kind of work cost?
Combustion test may have been in order.
Old and dirty. Kinda how I like my women these days. Steve. 😂
Nice
Wonder how badly corroded the heat exchanger is on this old beast
I love when Steve drops the "Queer". I'm just waiting for a sensitive homeowner to get offended. Watch out Steve he was an engineer which most likely makes him a DEM. Lol. He's most likely all about electric cars. 😂😂
@@billhill839 I found one. An offended DEM. There not that rare I guess. 😂😂
@@billhill839 nah. Those people are just myths created by the media. They say they come out of the woods once in a while during election time. 😂
If he tracked the amount of Therms used he would have a better understanding of what his usage is.
That was a crusty one Steve.
So manny differnt things you can check for high bill investigates... how much does the customer wanna spend is the question... but then again they were just complaining about their gas bill so...😅
$$$$$$ electric cars
Tell him to be sure to thank creepy Joe for the high prices.
Hi 🫶🏻🇬🇧🫶🏻
Bidenomics is why.
BS
@@billhill839
Come on man…. U know the thing
God i hate high gas usage calls. Turn your dam thermostat down. People are total idiots sometimes. Feel like im explaining the facts of life to a dam 9 year old.
Too much talking.....great work but quit the yapping.
The narration and conversation with home owners is the best!
Maybe you’re the problem? 200K subscribers.
Many channels are making their videos longer, more talking and more people, less work. Probably due to TH-cam pushing and making $$ more dependent on commercial interruptions.
First comment yippee
No edits either
@@markpowell1031cheese eater
Mollie looks real comfortable.
When the customer asks if they can hold the light for you I've always found they hold so they can see, and shines it in your eyes.
Soooo true!!! 😂
i always make sure to have a goofy bright headlamp so i can just stare at the customer when i want them to leave me alone
Never look at the bill look at the usage. Therms for nat gas and kWH for electric
CCFs for gas .... unit is hundreds of cubic feet
@@dock_yard1149 some utilities price in CCFs some price therms
People need to be looking at the usage and not the $ when it comes to utility bills. Like you said, everything has gone up in cost but you might not be using more.
Exactly right!! And this guy was an engineer, and he has the usages on all his bills. Dude, do some research. Can’t compare dollars only.
Whoa whoa whoa, next thing you'll be telling us electricity isn't 2 cents/kWh anymore
Hey Steve and Miss Molly! Workin’ again ya’ll. 👍👍
Half of my gas bill is the fuel adjustment fee. 25 dollars in gas used and 25 dollar additional fuel adjustment fee plus taxes and whatever other fees.
Commodity
And guy would know that if he read his bills and compared to the same month’s bill last year. He’s an engineer but he sounds lazy and doesn’t look at all the usage & misc fee info on his bills. Dum dum.
Steve great video. Did you look closely at the last couple of minutes or so where you can see some arcing near the electrical connector for the white wire near where the flame sensor goes into the sheet metal above the burners? Just something to look at since it appears to arc several times through those last few minutes when the camera is pointed and the heater is running. May be a loose electrical connector.
Thats not an arc... that the peep hole for the burners... only looks like an arc because of the camera angle. The flickering is the flames from the burners...
The job is completed and Steve went home. Did you expect him to go back based on what you saw?
You should get your self one of the magnet battery powered lights that you can stick on heater.
There was enough material there to make an extra burner.
seems like it was harder to be cheesy and now it's too easy to be cheesy ? i don't know...
Steve I’m surprised you didn’t take a mirror and inspect the sections and the flue probably need a brush and vac job, he probably wanted you gone asap.
I have found doing handyman work around Massachusetts, many people don't have near enough Attic insulation they have an R rating of 20 in insulation when here in new England you need a rating of R 42 rating minimum and the other factors 20+ year old leaky windows and doors, of course the burners going to keep calling for heat in those conditions
A current vid from Steven! Wow! What a treat. With Miss Molly too! Yea, I've written many a comment on your sites here about my "SMITH" boiler, a meare 45 years old. Gone I'll tell ya. Used one o those chainfall rigs to winch the thing out a the basement. Off to the metal scrapyard it went. Put in one of those Bedurus four section boilers with a Rieallo burner. Had to vent it. Drilled a three inch hole right through the foundation plate and a little room with a vent down low for the new chimney. All good now. Amazing what a little fresh air does for those blower burners. Very efficient, house is nice and warm as I write this. Now on my second season with it. I could not have even begun this project without your good guidance. Thank you so much for sharing all that you do! I'll tell ya! Thank you again. ～✨👍✨～. Nahampsha here.
Nyc seems mild
Hello Steve!
Nice video Steve. Probably wasn't burning clean either; combustion efficiency was likely not so great. Gas has gone up substantially. Some homeowners think you have a magic wand to just make all their problems go away hah
Mid-eff Boiler, Those New viessmann Boilers are top dogg but cost around 10,000
Those roads look terrible.
As bad as here upstate ny dump shit roads
Could it be a gas pressure change affecting usage?
You do great work Steve❤
Gas bills have dramatically increased in the last 2 yrs.
natural gas is half what it was a year ago.
@@brianmoore5498 - I guess it all depends on where you are located and who your provider is.
Yep your right, just paid my gas bill and the price just went up again in my area paying almost double the price that I was paying before January 20 2021
@@Ander5806 - Same here. A lot of these gas companies can charge whatever they want. Not regulated. So it has nothing to do with what natural gas is going for.
Looks just like the boiler in one of our 4 family it’s been very good knock on wood Steve is a real working man mama
My gas and electric bill really dropped when I installed my new furnace. I believe the old supply plenum was leaking because it looked like the duct board was patched together by an amateur. My neighbor had to replace his plenum because the installer didn’t staple the flaps on his old plenum. It was just taped and it came apart.
Friends had their system audited. The amount of air loss was insane. Patching up the plenum and some duct repairs knocked close to 40% off the bills for heating/AC.
@@jblyon2 I did one of the energy audits, and ended up having my ducts sealed a month ago. Supposedly, they got an 85% reduction in leakage. Not sure yet how that will translate to savings, as it's been only a month but also through the holidays and corresponding increases from that. I have noticed that the house seems more evenly heated, and the heat doesn't seem to be running for as long. Time will tell on that one....but certainly older homes were built without consideration to efficiency and savings, for sure.
They don’t make machines like they should: easily accessible, easy to service and ergonomic for the tech to work on.