Analog Blindtasting Pt.2 - TR-09 vs Behringer RD-9 vs TR-909! Plus a Pirate!

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    We received an incredible amount of positive comments on our comparison video between the vintage Roland TR-909 and the new Behringer RD-9.
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    The reactions show that our viewers hardly miss a detail in our videos and that the effort was worth it in the end! For this we would like to thank you with all thumbs up!
    Some users requested an additional comparison with the Roland TR-09 from the Boutique series, which served as decoration during the last test.
    And we even added a fourth drum computer as an unknown pirate!
    To make it exciting, we left the sound question open until the end. If you feel like a little blind test, you are cordially invited to play along!
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ความคิดเห็น • 58

  • @MaximilianoSchneider
    @MaximilianoSchneider ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nice comparison. The TR-09 has the option to add a compressor to the kick and snare, so it is likely that your machine had the compression settings pretty high, but you can turn it completely off and it will sound exactly like the TR-909, and it has more "hidden" parameters to tune most of the instruments up and down, and change the gain, release, panning and some other things. The TR-09 it's a pretty powerful emulation of the 909 but some people hate it because it's small and digital, completely ignoring all the extra features packed in that tiny box. Thanks for the video!

  • @saibot20194
    @saibot20194 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The TR 09 sounds super clean, no white noise in the background, it's probably the winner here.

    • @atommachine
      @atommachine ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just picked one up and i prefer it to my old 909 with its flexibility, it is so close and built very well. Use a Audio splitter to the desk and set channels for each instrument , track, loop whatever is a good unit and more.

    • @EchterBonito
      @EchterBonito 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Audio Splitter 🤔 brilliant idea!

  • @britzman9905
    @britzman9905 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    the tr09 sounded like it had more swing on it than the others? great video. made me laugh

  • @GottfriedLamprecht
    @GottfriedLamprecht 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    cool! I am looking forward to a future episode in the next couple of weeks!

  • @NondoPondo
    @NondoPondo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Let's do a shoot out between all known 909 VSTs, with a TR-909 please. lol

  • @phonopollution
    @phonopollution 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi, ich mag das Format, das ist, wie wenn ich mit meinen Kumpels rumblödle, weiter so 👍🏻- also ich finds unterhaltsam, auch der Trip zur Superbooth

    • @winesynths
      @winesynths  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Freut uns, dass es genauso ankommt! 👍

  • @NondoPondo
    @NondoPondo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If you cannot afford a TR-909, just get some samples and load the to your Octatrack. lol

  • @Producer4Realz
    @Producer4Realz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've got all 3 and the Tr09 in your test was propably high frequency filtered because your friend hate it
    No way its sounds like there's no life...
    Come on man...😂
    The TR-09 is the closest to the Tr909 but has different options added. The Behringer rd909 is awesome but a little different.
    Take the compression and the freq shelving down and you'll get a real comparison

  • @Ponnybit
    @Ponnybit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank you for the vid!!

  • @Tsumios
    @Tsumios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you done it excellent :) and thank you, you helped me to decide which one `i will take :)

  • @atommachine
    @atommachine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such a great upload very funny. 909 always sits in its smokers chair with all it's wisdom and mellowness bless it.

  • @streetlyrecords2385
    @streetlyrecords2385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good one guys ! Did you checkwd Artruria drum impact? What do you think ?

  • @wolfgangfrase
    @wolfgangfrase 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Klasse Video mit prominentem Cameo!!! Einer meiner absoluten Lieblingsfilme: Brust oder Keule! Leider reicht mein Französisch nicht für ein Anschauen im Original! Aber die Schlüsselszene, wo er den Wein anhand der Farbe und Dauer (!) des Absinkens der Schwebstoffe ermittelt! Kann man den Jahrgang des Synths auch am Anschlagverhalten der Tasten erkennen?

    • @winesynths
      @winesynths  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolut! Mit etwas Übung und einem Hauch Talent ist auch das sicher möglich! 😌

  • @dohe3395
    @dohe3395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Niiiiice !!! Ich feier immer wieder mit EUCH 🥳

    • @winesynths
      @winesynths  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dankeeee!!! 🤩

  • @noir4356
    @noir4356 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I actually like the TR-09. And I like it more than the Behringer 😛

    • @winesynths
      @winesynths  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I never said, that people with a strange taste did not exist! 😁 But if you feel good with it and produce the sound you like, everything is fine! 🤖

  • @jyonda
    @jyonda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very useful video, thank you for your efforts. Any thoughts on the Roland Tr6s/Tr8s 909 sounds?

    • @winesynths
      @winesynths  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It remains a matter of personal taste and workflow. We personally don‘t really catch up with the new Roland stuff. But of course, you can also produce with it on a professional level. Stefan also has a TR-8s in his studio and uses it frequently.

  • @RaquelFoster
    @RaquelFoster ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not quite as grumpy as Stefan, but the TR-09 still drives me crazy. The Micro-B power connector is ridiculous. And it's a drum machine FFS. It would be better to remove MIDI than to remove the individual outputs. At least you can get one individual output. You can pan the kick left and pan every other instrument right. But you can do that with the TR-6S, so you might as well use a TR-6S.
    The best feature of the TR-08 and TR-09 is the trigger output which has its own track. Then you can use an MBase11 for your kick and you don't have to worry about it being digital or not having a separate kick output.
    I don't mind using digital synths, but on something you want to compress and overdrive like a kick, that's when you can really tell the difference with analog. Even an RD-9 sounds great going through old guitar pedals. It's magical when you find sweet spots in an analog FX chain with an analog kick or bass mono synth.

    • @atommachine
      @atommachine ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its design was for Studio LAPTOP hook up and more flexibility, it is a dark horse unit IMO.

  • @wackerburg
    @wackerburg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nothing sounds like the original. When you want to save money and still want a realistic 909-ish machine, I'd go with either the Steda SR-909 or the RE-909 made by DinSync. Both fabulous projects imho. #StedaSR909 #DinSyncRE909 #TR909

    • @Marnavi74
      @Marnavi74 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you're right, it doesn't sound the same, it sounds even better

    • @Marnavi74
      @Marnavi74 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      when you want to save money you go with rd 9 without any doubt

    • @wackerburg
      @wackerburg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Marnavi74 I put sound first. Money comes and goes (:

  • @LoveMeBack
    @LoveMeBack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Audio realism all the way.

  • @Pulsecode303
    @Pulsecode303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sehr schönes Video! Was die Kompression der Bassdrum des TR-09 betrifft, können Sie diese ausschalten und der Rimshot und andere Instrumente können über ein Menü nach Belieben gestimmt werden. ich weiß nicht ob du das schon gemacht hast?

    • @winesynths
      @winesynths  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah! Danke für den Tipp! Dann lag ich mit meiner Vermutung ja nicht ganz verkehrt. 🍀

  • @njdpdv
    @njdpdv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🔥EPIC🔥

  • @Dvd7111
    @Dvd7111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wondering when you compare 3 same drummachines but probably the same sound or not?

  • @NondoPondo
    @NondoPondo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    With just the Clap I can tell you the really 909. lol

  • @anthonyellis5517
    @anthonyellis5517 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The pirate should had been another tr909! Because no 2 sound exactly the same based on the circuitry and components, just a small fact.

    • @winesynths
      @winesynths  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That‘s true! How would two different RD-9 sound? 🤔

    • @anthonyellis5517
      @anthonyellis5517 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@winesynthsthat’s a very good question, I guess we won’t know for about other 30+ years but by then none of us would care anymore 😂 anyway I love your channel and it’s honesty I subscribed ❤

  • @mirrle
    @mirrle 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Schöner vergleich und das dinglish ist etwas schräg auf den Ohren 😅

  • @NondoPondo
    @NondoPondo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    OMG... what's up with Addidas? lol

  • @mickwiese3819
    @mickwiese3819 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hatte selbst 10 Jahre das Original und kurz die kleine Roland Kiste. Ne 909 gefällt mir immer noch am Besten, da das Verhalten der Hüllkurven sehr homogen klingt. Trotzdem würde ich heute zur RD-09 greifen

    • @winesynths
      @winesynths  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Das ist eine gute Zusammenfassung! 👍

  • @user-gq6sf4si6j
    @user-gq6sf4si6j 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    TR 909 hands down the champion

  • @KazmaHD
    @KazmaHD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:38 the RD-9 has a ground loop or something else effecting the audio OUT ): its like this for all the tests, a high pitch hiss

    • @winesynths
      @winesynths  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your comment. But on 4:38 I hear the 909 Kick. Actually during those recordings we had a lot more to fight with noise on the TR-909 mains. On the other hand there is a very low noise hiss on the clap of the RD-9. A bit like a spring reverb in the tail of the sound. I think we made a remark about this in the first video.

  • @lownrgy
    @lownrgy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you use TR-909 own sequencer or midi, the groove is out of place

    • @winesynths
      @winesynths  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its all running on internal sequencers. Except the VST of course.

  • @RaffRobinson
    @RaffRobinson 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The tr09 sound so muddy…to much 40/60 hertz in my ears, it’s really anoying

  • @michaelpierce3264
    @michaelpierce3264 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi the boutique has a built inn compressor Coulter it had being left on on the kick drum?

    • @winesynths
      @winesynths  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah! I also think that it might be my mistake! As far as, I'm not used to have them built in! 😄

  • @ACIDGREENTECHNO
    @ACIDGREENTECHNO ปีที่แล้ว +1

    macht doch bitte mal tr-09 vs tr8s

    • @winesynths
      @winesynths  ปีที่แล้ว

      Och nöö! 😁🌻🍀

  • @derekholland3328
    @derekholland3328 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    pointless exercise
    anything can be sampled where you wouldnt know the difference
    sample it, its 2023 not 1980

  • @NondoPondo
    @NondoPondo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't live analogue modeling. It does not sound as good. VSTs sound better. lmao

  • @davespicer2143
    @davespicer2143 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn, you have to feel sorry for anybody that spent money on a TR-09. Sounds afwul. Roland should hang their heads in shame with that one. Great video though!

    • @savanaviolenta
      @savanaviolenta ปีที่แล้ว

      Said no one ever

    • @davespicer2143
      @davespicer2143 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@savanaviolenta aside from where I said it above yeah? 😂

    • @atommachine
      @atommachine ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think they should , its a great bit of Studio tech.