Can I succeed in Finland? Will I be happy as a foreigner in Finland?
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I am so much older than you that I have seen the world and societies change over a little bit longer than you. I have also seen how some forgeign language immigrants have first been clearly foreign and even made careers initially supported by on being different, a foreigner. But with time they have become part of the fabric of the society. They might still have something different about them, but they are hardly foreigners any more.
Having dual identity is interesting, but comes with some challenges. Interesting things in life are often challenging.
Not everyone is successful, happy or anything all the time, even if they stayed in the same place and more or less in same culture all their lives. In a world where social media is full of success stores and happy people, we all feel that we aren't enough and are missing something.
I completely agree with you! 💯
Can I succeed in Finland? Will I be happy as a foreigner in Finland? Let's talk! Leave your thoughts in the comments. 🙂
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Nice one, just my 1st time and I enjoyed the message.
I love the positive outlook.
Hope Finland is favourable for foreign families too?
Finland is one of the safest places to live in, and most importantly it’s safe for kids.
I assume you're asking about foreign language families.
Are you?
It doesn't make much difference, if members of a family are from a foreign country and live in Finland, if they don't have language challenges. The difference comes mostly from languages. It is more challenging to try to arrange some services in hundreds of different languages. Foreign language families with children come with additional challenges to the public school system. They are more likely not to have similar local language skills than other children in the same age group.
Also adults are more likely to have delayed skills in local languages, if their family language or languages are all foreign.
@@ImmigrationLawLivinginFinland It is useful to remember that national averages are not what individual people experience. We always live and experience things more locally. Neighborhoods are different from each other. Also different parts of the country are different.
Perhaps not so much in safety. But there are differences.
One thing I have noticed is a bit strange. Some immigrants ask about safety, seem to be pleased with the situation compared to other places they know about or have coming from, but then they still might be very motivated to choose homes in places, where foreigners might be the majority or at least very high percentage of the population. Don't they see that highly foreign communities or areas in Finland are not actually very Finnish and some of the people there can come from very different cultures, having different values and can also have different effect to security.
Highly multicultural neighborhoods have some challenges.
They are more interesting places, but not without challenges.
Still the levels of problems might be lower than what foreigners are used to. So I don't say one needs to be worried. But one needs to be aware and think about this. Perhaps moving to a new very multicultural neighborhood isn't the best alternative, if a person is looking for opportunities for integration, learning local languages, networking with locals, learning about local society..
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I remember that I have commented about "being a foreigner in Finland" previously, but I haven't given any examples.
Perhaps I should. Today I visited a doctor in Finnish healthcare center. The doctor had a foreign name, which I had to write down, since it is challenging for me to remember how some foreign names are written.
He spoke clear good Finnish, as all medical doctors are required to do in Finland to get licenced for practicing. Perhaps there was small difference, but it could also be that the mask was making sounds a bit different.
His native language is Arabic, and he can also Russian, Finnish and English. He himself listed them in that order, so it could mean that Finnish was his 3th strongest language. I don't know him. He could have been born in Finland, but that tiny difference in ascent seems to suggest something else.
Is he a foreigner? I don't know. I would let him choose and tell how he feels.
That’s a good example. Maybe he was born here or moved at an early age, but just like you said, he should be able to decide whether he is a foreigner or not. 👍🏽
I would like to hear if you see differences in being a foreign to being an immigrant or having immigration background.
As you see, I am interested in how people experience and go through some integration or settling down process over the years.
It could also be interesting to learn how it can be different depending from which culture you're coming from.
The largest foreigner group in Finland is Estonians. After that comes Russians and people from Irak.
The number of Ukrainians is also high and growing because the current war.
But there are immigrants or visitors from everywhere..
Hi, this is a very good point you have raised. Usually an immigrant is someone who moved from their own country to live in a new country. That’s the simple definition. But over the years, the word has been used in a different context and most times with a negative connotation. People see immigrants as people from underdeveloped countries. And those migrating from developed nations are given a different name or placed into a higher category.
In my years in Finland and also from what I have heard many people say; some Finns do this a lot. I have heard someone from Italy who said her Finnish mother in law doesn’t like it when she refers to herself as an immigrant. The mother-in-law corrects her and tells her “no, you are not an immigrant!“. That is the mentality many Finnish people have and I hope this changes with time. Sorry but it’s the truth. And the darker your skin tone is the more immigrant you are.
So to me, you moved here permanently, you are an immigrant. That’s the correct term. The general word for people in a different country other than their (both permanently or short time) is Foreigner. This covers all of us and we are included. That’s the general term. Then specifically you can then say WHAT TYPE OF FOREIGNER you are. Eg tourists, immigrant, refugee, asylum seeker, visitors, students, whatever.
About a person having immigrant background, this is also a broad term and it includes persons (both Finns and non Finns) who have some kind of family relations to an immigrant, somewhere in their family tree. At what point this stops? I don’t know, but I guess it depends on how far long the person is on the tree. If the bloodline has over the years become overly Finnish and the immigrant side of it has thinned out over the decades then maybe that term won’t be suitable anymore.
So here’s my short summary. I could elaborate more on these things but not today.
@@ImmigrationLawLivinginFinland I usually use or see the English "immigrant" used in U.S. context, like "America is the nation of immigrants".
So everyone except indigenous people are immigrants..
But if I step to Finnish experience and terminology like muukalainen, it is historically slightly different.
Before Finland existed there where several clearly different populations also in this area. Countries didn't have much relevance to common people. Only later national unity and identity become more relevant. Different tribes or people where foreigners or strangers (muukalaisia) to each other. When agriculture become more common and villages where formed, people from different villages where muukalaisia. Not necessary from other other county, but foreign to locals.
The difference between foreigner and stranger might have been mostly language based. Modern genetic studies of the Finnish population have given us confirmation that culture and languages have travelled independent from the genetics. This means that biological ties and cultural ties have been separate even in much earlier times.
I too have noticed that some, or actually many, words have become corrupted by more political meanings or values.
That also means that words don't have the same meaning from person to person. Dialogue with people gets even more muddy, since we have even more difficulties in communicating with people, with other political views or values.
The socioeconomic status of a person can twist the attached values of the word maahanmuuttaja / immigrants from positive to negative..
If the immigrants is a professor, leader in a company, specialist earning well or having high status, then also the immigration is more easily seen as positive. Nursing is complex area in this context. On the other hand there is respect and need for foreign workforce in the field, but simultaneously there are struggles in having better income and workplace situation. Foreign nurses come in the middle of a field in turmoil. And customers can also be highly difficult for many reasons.
Some words have emotional attachments and then separate more simple factual meanings. People from Karelian, who where relocated to Finland because of the WW-II, had and some still do, emotionally difficult to become integrated and not stay as migrants or immigrants. It was difficult. It was the first wave of large scale immigration/ migration in Finland as a State.
Integration and the process of not being seen by others as an immigrant or having such major self identity took a long time.
@@ImmigrationLawLivinginFinland You used to word bloodline. I understand that it is used, but actually when we are talking about culture and nationality, biology is secondary. History and studies have shown than generic inheritance and cultural inheritance can take different paths. In this context bloodline is an outdated term.
If come to Finland has a master's student can my work 40hours per week?
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In Finland is there a Nepali community church or not ?
There should be. You should try to search on Facebook.
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