2018 Holden Commodore Tourer v Subaru Outback v Volkswagen Passat Alltrack | motoring.com.au
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- Is there still a role for the all-wheel-drive family wagon now that SUVs have a steadfast stronghold here in Australia? We pit the newly introduced Holden Commodore Tourer against perennial favourite, the Subaru Outback and the VW Passat Alltrack in limited edition Wolfsburg guise to see which comes out on top.
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Subaru is best.....I’ve had 4 of them now since 2007....very good space, quiet cabin, great handling, great off-road ability....and a full size spare alloy wheel. Been more places than most so called 4 wheel drives. Hilux, Navara etc. kicks butt everywhere.
I have the 2017 Subaru. Very underrated car for its price bracket. Fantastic car. Perfect car for a lot of highway and track driving.
Don't think it's underated. It's a common knowledge that Subarus are incredible cars. You can even see the amount of likes under comments about subaru :)
@@ozzless Interestingly they do get a lot of hate on the internet but when talking about subies IRL, indeed people love them and I can understand why!
@@gagd7351 the get the hate from owners of other brands, who read a lot of information about how great these car are and enter denial state
I have a 2015 Diesel Outback.....it's a superb car. I have the premium model with sunroof and heated seats, I tow a small trailer and it's used for work. I have had 3 years of trouble free motoring. It's the 3rd Subie I'ved owned ( I've had 2 foresters as well ). All 3 have been by far the most reliable vehicles I have owned in my 30 years of driving....
The Diesel in the outback is one sad motor, that’s why they always test cars wth the petrol motor. We looked at one and after driving the diesel, which is the engine we wanted then drove the Passat which had a great motor however customer service made us leave the dealer. We ended up buying a Toyota Fortuna and are very happy with our choice 3 years later. My brother has now owed about 8 Subaru’s due to the resale he gets being a rep on the road and turning cars over every 2 years,
Just bought an outback 3.6r......it’s outstanding! Like driving on rails. Love the cvt.......what a car!!!!!
Reliability resale and quality Subaru all the way best awd system out there
Nice review, Go the Subie ✌️
I need a wagon so that I can take the family for as many road trips as I can♥️
That was a decent rewiev. I probably didnt see some like this which contains so many info in so short footage.
Well done.
subaru is avery good athlete,vw sells alot of gimicks
The Subaru would be my pick too
Motor Trend in the states picked the TourX(Buick) over the OB 3.6R and Alltrack(golf wagon) for 1st place. It was definitely the performer of the group with the fastest time in all performance metrics.
Including how quickly it will break down.
Naturally aspersted v6? It's not 2005! The Subaru uses 3x the amount of fuel that the Passat uses around town!
will be interesting to see a comparison of these vehicles in snowy conditions. We know how good the Subarus are, not so sure what the Holden will be like?
Steve Reaburn it'll be snowed under more criticism 😉
As I own a TourX, I can tell you that the Holden is terrific in snowy conditions. In several inches of snow (4-6"), I could not shake the TourX's twin-clutch torque vectoring AWD system. I agree, Subie is by far the more technically offroad-capable winner here (and I admire the brand for that) but for my money, the TourX beats it in every other category.
VW - Great car, although a bit expensive out of this bunch, has a nice DSG transmission and very economical.
Subaru - Awesome ride, has the Eyesight system (perfect for safety), economical, may be expensive to device but still a great car. Looks refined inside and out
Holden - Shares the same design as the Vauxhall/Opel Insignia, making it look a little bit unappealing, but still has the same qualities and driveability of a good ol' Holden!!
My pick: the Subi
Only the Outback is suitable for safe travel on gravel or rugged roads with decent ground clearance and X-mode traction. Spacesavers are an abomination in any vehicle marketed as suitable for off road use.
@alelx jines I agree with what you have said about the refinement, handing and power of the VW Passat Alltrack. I was discussing the lack of a full sized spare wheel, off road safety and off road traction which are only important when you go travel road gravel roads or go off road which are very different issues.
Subaru need to hurry up and fitout the interior of the outback/forester/levorg with the same interior's as the new XV/IMPREZA, they'd be unstoppable.
madrx2 What i hate though is how their interiors are too similar between all Subaru models... they need to change some stuff around
THAVANI I agree but unfortunately most manufacturers do the same to one extent or the other, it dramatically reduces the amount of moulds and machines the factories need to install. BMW are one of the worst for it.
I beg to disagree. The rather simple interior has aged well in my opinion
Always loved Subaru's in general, the only thing that's been letting them down is the design both exterior and interior
I think, that in this generation its pretty nice. I have previous generation and its simply ugly...
I just adore how the comment section below every comparison video containing a Subaru is filled with Subaru fans. Any comments on the fuel consumption, especially compared to VW?
The Calais needed higher ride height and a full size spare tyre.
Subaru, off course.
VW 👍
Subaru!😍
Yay for Subaru
holden why did you even bother to enter this market ?
wayne because they think the Lion badge is still worth something and people would be attracted to this Vauxhall Insigna for its style. Same ole for Holden... style over substance too.
It provided an opportunity to fuck over a whole new group.
It's an Opel, and now even a Peugeot
@@nessuno5403 in Buick guise in the states it is over US$10,000 less than OB 3.6R.
@@barryhamm3414 with epic failure
Suuuuuuuuubie
VW PASSAT
ZB Tourer Calais in every area except were the Subaru can get too. Save ten thousand by dropping the "V" off the Calais. Do you really need a $3,500.00 glass roof, vibrating drivers seat, softer plastics and a sun glass holder lid?
Wazz Zappening ...and that is why cars have unnecessary weight. Add to that electric mirrors and seats? I think cars need to go back to basics, get some weight down and the advances that have been gained in fuel economy and efficiency will be even more impressive.
Indeed agreed 1969cmp. Some beneficial safety advancements aside.The main motive behind the usually unnecessary bells & whistles from the manufacturers is extra profit. Walk into a new car showroom hot and the sales people will always try to justify every noninclusive extra. $$$$$! I am looking at a new ZB Tourer Calais,the 7 year warranty is attractive but against a used VF series 2, 6.2 litre V8 Calais V with 48,000k as low as $39,990 in which no doubt will now increase in value as time goes by. It's seems a no brainer.
Wazz Zappening Hmm...I wouldn't mind a VF2 SV6.
Had a rise in an VF SS the other day. Very nice.
I also like Falcons even if they ceased from any serious updated from the FG onwards. That straight four I think is still one of the great engines and mated to the ZF six speed was a good package.
The 6.2 sounds good. Lets hope the Greens do not get their way - EVs for all. No thanks.
I actually don’t mind two glass holders. One for an ice cooled stubbie and the second to hold a bag of hot chips with salt and vinegar. And when both are empty, return the car from the test drive!
Subaru Nice Car 😎
so the subaru has more space despite the alltracks boot being 100 litres larger with the seats up? biased review
Holden ur kidding right?
George Honk no, they're serious about their joke of a car!
did she say the commo has a 9sp auto?!
Joshua Koch you can get it with one. Most cars leading the segment have 10 speed transmissions though, Camry, Accord etc. even the mustang has a 10spd
brosk1s hmm more you know
Um did you miss the 6 cylinder boxer engine??
Go off-road buy an off road vehicle
$53 for the Commodore go buy a Trail Blazer for the same money if you want a Holden product
Holden has a great portfolio! Go from 1 piece of crap to the other!
How come no Holden in us? Not safe?
US buyers have had holden products in the past Eg Chevrolet SS i think you guys called it and the Pontiac G8 this "Holden" product is current sold in the US as a Buick and is built in Germany
Buick Regale = (fake) Holden Commodore = (real) Opel/Vauxhall Insigna
Camaro was based off same platform as Chevrolet SS...
None of these cars are offroaders , reviewer fails to mention that 99.9% of the time these car makes won't leave the bitumen, btw the Calais is the fastest and best looking of the trio, the Subaru outback soccer van wouldn't last 2 minutes on a decent 4wd track.
wow one thing for sure the Holden wagon is really really ugly - agreed the Subaru is probably the best option here; nice review thanks
Offroad go for Subaru. Go for Vw if you want to be cheated.
Eric Zhu It is only mild offroad ability in this catagory.
offroad get a 4x4.
madrx2 Yes off course, i it's possible i will choose a Landcruiser, Nissan Patrol, pathfinder or Mitsubishi Pajero
Eric Zhu You'd be amazed
Have you ever tried it?
Kien Fung ::))) 👍
You'd be mental if you took any of those cars on those tracks, especially if you bought it with your own money
I agree. Although the outback is the most capable, it is not meant to tackle tough off road conditions.
many many people do. none of that looked difficult since the holden got up it!
I'll stick with my adventra fanks
RIP Holden.
Holdens are expensive to service at dealers.
You did a 3 car comparison in 5:30. Very superficial and disappointing review.
GM should end Holden, post VE/VF there's nothing worth buying from them anymore; and the new Commodore is sure to flop.
New commodore looks the best... Subaru, as always does not disappoint with cheap Japanese plastic and dull design...
Subaru interiors and exterior styling is horrible. Best vehicle of this bunch though.
#fakeHolden
nes suno Still a good car. But I can understand the sentiment.
Id still buy a VF over a ZB but shat of the Holden brand? Did GM assist on its demise with the Cruze and Captiva and the eventual demise of the local Commodore? In any case, the ZB would have been the replacement for the VF even in a locally built scenario.
1969cmp spot on, guess they overestimated the goodwill Holden once had
The naming is so confusing. The last generation comodore was the Chevy SS here in the US.. meanwhile y'all's Opel VXR is our last generation Buick Regal while the new commodore is our new Regal. It definitely should've been called the new VXR. That's a hella letdown. Like the regal and SS share very little in common.
Landon Combass well said! Of course, before that, the coupé Commodore, the Australian "Monaro", was also your Pontiac GTO. These cars and especially your SS (an updated Pontiac G8) was exported in small numbers just to make Holden production a bit more viable until closure. GM never had major plans for more exports or support on purpose, because of the American unions (understandably) wanting to protect its workers. And lastly, the saloon on which the GTO was based, was developed from a modified Cadillac Catera platform, itself an Opel/Vauxhall Omega... which kind of is in the lineage that takes us to today's Insigna/Regal/Commodore!
Subaru is the best. Honda and Toyota sucks. But VW is good too albeit expensive.
Your a fucking nut job, Toyota makes the most reliable vehicles on the planet followed by Honda and I'm a Subaru owner saying this. Volkswagen = fucking Garbage and I've owned 2 of them and both were problems after 40k Miles. Now as far as my take on Subaru goes its a real love hate relationship partly due to the way I drive the thing, I love how my Foresters can off road with lifted Jeeps on a stock suspension, I love how it can outrun a Mustang GT on the road of course mine is modded thou and an XT model. But reliability on the other hand is a problem after 120k on the Odometer. And your name is inaccurate as fuck.
Zeki Patan the only good thing about toyota is that they build reliable cars. But they sure hell boring to drives. Trashy diving dynamics, fuel guzzling, and cheap. At least we all know Subaru is the better car maker compared to toyoscrap and fuel guzzling honda.
Zeki Patan and my name is accurate because these two companies are bunch of anti competitive and monopoly companies. They use dirty tactics to undermined the competitor.
Wrong you've clearly never driven a Supra
@Zeki you know Supra may be the iconic sports car from Toyota, but too bad its no longer in production. Its a shame that Toyota is not giving enthusiast their great car. At least Subaru's WRX STI is still in production till today and they still offer stick-shift. Meanwhile, the rest of the manufacturers are pretty much going towards dual-clutch or CVTs. So that's kinda sucks. And yes, I rather buy a Hyundai/Kia rather than Toyota/Honda. Let me take an example, lets talk about SUV as many people nowadays are pretty much gravitating towards family oriented SUVs. Honda's CR-V is an absolute terrible car. It may have the power and handling, but its gas guzzling. Suspension on Honda's isn't as good as the Subaru Forester or Mazda CX-5 (Oh yea Mazda rocks too!) and meanwhile Toyota is always and still a fuckin underpowered shitbox with boring interior and lack of decent build quality.
Also you dickhead, when you say Nvidia is the has the best GPU, you are basically losing on the fact that AMD GPU are known to age well like a fine wine and its architecture is actually far superior than Nvidia's. Just take a look at majority of the miners who actually utilizes AMD cards. Their cards purely on raw power while nvidia tends to do lots of optimization. And when it comes to mining hash rate, Nvidia just suck thumbs.
Intel cpu outlive and AMD processor? Now you are the fucking nutjob. Then tell me will Intel quad-core could handle the future? AMD Ryzen is currently the best CPU and with addtional cores, no doubt it is the best CPU that everyone knows that it is a futureproof CPU that will definitely outlive Intel shitty quad-core processors. You are basically mad and got it wrong.
She just said Subaru is German made?? It's Japanese..
She didn't. She just said "its fellow german-made Passat", "fellow" as in "competitor" or something like that.
Won the hearts... suv.. right? Lol no everyones FAT
A Volkswagen, are you kidding
sokawati Vw not even considerable.
Subaru suck and are boring, new Commodore looks good but I'd never buy 1. Alltrack 176kw and 500nm diesel is the bees knees and hauls ass. Does AU not have that engine option?
This lady is so bias it's not funny, she obviously hates the commodore
For gods sakes stop using Newton Meters because it's so damn confusing.
Holden no 1 it's a holden 2 its European
VW no. 1 it's a vw. 2 it's european.
Subaru yes. 1 its a suby. 2 it's not european
Adam Dixon did you have a stroke while typing?
The VWs gear box is absolutely astonishingly rubbish. It will break. Do not buy
Holden and VW hahahahaha..... a fucking joke
The presenter needs a facelift for sure! sorry...
Stopped watching once I saw a woman doing the review..
That’s sexist!