Askar FRA 300 Pro: A New Budget Astrograph!

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  • @indysbike3014
    @indysbike3014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    We need more reviews like this. Astrophotography is such a niche market and not many reviews from equipment out there.

  • @kamalboparai162
    @kamalboparai162 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just gotta say your vids have been super helpful in my research leading into astrophotography. Thanks for taking the time to curate and teach!!

  • @michaeledmonds3027
    @michaeledmonds3027 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A most excellent review, Nico. I'm glad that you're reviewing reasonably priced equipment that more of your followers and afford. I look forward to many more.

  • @DSOImager
    @DSOImager 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Really nice comparison Nico. Appreciate the close up shots of the corner stars. Both scopes performed well.

  • @Pletharoe
    @Pletharoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Awesome review. I totally agree with the previous comments that we need more of these sorts of videos. Really really useful and I shall be buying this scope as a result. Great work thanks!

  • @tobiasdrewry4600
    @tobiasdrewry4600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this review. I share the Boston-area skyscape with you and am always impressed with the images you are able to capture as well as the detail you provide about process and gear selection.

  • @tensorhugh2588
    @tensorhugh2588 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yet another beautiful image Nico, and thanks for the review! I love the framing, the square sensor has a 16803-ish feel to it, I love it!

  • @crusty3260
    @crusty3260 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been waiting sooooo long for Askar to make a 300. Super excited for this.

  • @synapic.5297
    @synapic.5297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I really like this review type of video. Another thing I extremely like about your channel is that a lot of your videos are made for amateurs or beginners in astrophotography and that really helps! thank you so much nico

    • @DemPilafian
      @DemPilafian 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. The first 3 minutes of the video answered about 10 questions I had. Great presentation.

  • @toddchaba6993
    @toddchaba6993 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much for this review, I was literally just researching these 2 scopes. Much appreciated!

  • @basalame9270
    @basalame9270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much Bruce for your considerable work and the transmission of your unique information ✨✨✨

  • @jims9982
    @jims9982 ปีที่แล้ว

    I ordered an Askar FRA300 and I received it in the mail today. I cant wait to set it up and try it out. Thank you for the review.

  • @pleappleappleap
    @pleappleappleap ปีที่แล้ว

    You have some of the most informative videos I've ever come across. Bravo!

  • @astroadventures3559
    @astroadventures3559 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome comparison very detailed and very much appreciated! Great work brother🤘

  • @koomber777
    @koomber777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad you said the weight of the rig up on the sa GTi. I am a bit obsessed with it lol.
    Going back to the scopes, I like that you said you were having to be a bit picky. They both performed very well. It felt that you were struggling to find things to really comment on for difference. I think if you mixed all 18 of the analysis boxes you wouldn't be able to tell them apart.
    Ultimately though it comes down to the final product and the askar looked astounding. The nebulosity looked like someone put droplets of dye in water.

  • @Ishan7019
    @Ishan7019 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot Nico! No matter what question I have in my mind I always find a video here. And just in case I want any other details or info, you always reply🙏🏻🙏🏻😄😄

  • @baszonneveld7740
    @baszonneveld7740 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another honest review! Keep up the good work Nico!

  • @sharkking9679
    @sharkking9679 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought me the FMA 230 in November and i really love it. Menawhile there is even a EAF adapter available which makes it really nice to use remote

  • @garymaker409
    @garymaker409 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I took my first picture with my FRA 300. It did not disappoint. North America and Pelican Nebulas. The reds were to strong because of the L Enhance filter. But the starts were tight and round all the way to the corners. Also there was virtual no light drop off at the corners and that was even with out the flats I messed up. Love the scope so far!!!

  • @dominiclester3232
    @dominiclester3232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks! Amazing final image.

  • @briansture4353
    @briansture4353 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have hit the nail squarely on the head these small high-tech telescopes are amazing.
    Goodbye to my hernia-busting beastie. Good vid!! Keep it up.

  • @davidbeecher9143
    @davidbeecher9143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nico, great comparison.
    I have the new version of the red cat 51 and I can confirm that the front lens element does move in and out when focusing,

  • @paulcizdziel3769
    @paulcizdziel3769 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, what a beautiful telescope! Impressive Askar!

  • @rx7dude2006
    @rx7dude2006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been using the Redcat51 with the SSI533 MC Pro and love the combo especially for Nebulas.

  • @FAstroHD
    @FAstroHD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks mate a great review video. It would be great if you can do a review and comparison of this detail on all the major branded scopes out there and build a catalog for us newbies to come to and watch before making expensive purchases so that we can make informed decisions based on a proper review like yours.
    I purchased the FRA400 recently and just did my first light with it and I am very happy with it. It's a great scope.

  • @RaysAstrophotography
    @RaysAstrophotography 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That 533 sensor color also matches with several combinations of scopes. For wide field views Red Cat is a good performer. Great reviews Nico!

    • @user-hi3qg5nm1e
      @user-hi3qg5nm1e 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Congratulations Niko Very Good video the telescope is great!!!!😱😱😱😱🙏🙏😱😱😱

  • @damiencannane
    @damiencannane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice review, Nico. Thanks!
    CS✨
    Damien

  • @tomhoskins4913
    @tomhoskins4913 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Outstanding Nico

  • @DemPilafian
    @DemPilafian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish all product reviews were like this. It's like I just got a miniature Master Class education. 🧠👍🧠

  • @Starrrgazer
    @Starrrgazer ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fun fact: this Video made me buying the FRA 300 this July. After that I wanted to get the Star Adventurer 2i. I already was at the checkout for ordering it, when I heard of the GTi.. I started watching videos about it and came back to this Video of yours! 😂🥰 first at that point I realized: you had this mount! I got so excited and I couldn’t resist: I bought the GTi… ✨💙 thank you for your great videos, Nico! Can’t wait to start shooting…

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great Nadine! That's a great setup, I think you will have a lot of fun with it! -Nico

    • @ADVJunkie
      @ADVJunkie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Will the fra300 work with the SA 2i?

  • @kennethrobinson5386
    @kennethrobinson5386 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved the Hara Noda tune in the background at the beginning ang the end.

  • @chrisbeere2117
    @chrisbeere2117 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review Nico, very useful mate 👍

  • @BlueLagoonPoolsAndAquatics
    @BlueLagoonPoolsAndAquatics ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Nico great video, very helpfull )

  • @portblock
    @portblock ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If I may make a small correction: f/5.6 -> f/5 is 1/3 stop, f/5.6 to f4.8 is 1/2 stop

  • @Naztronomy
    @Naztronomy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very nice review, Nico! A quintuplet is on my list to buy (in the next 5 years because everything is too expensive) and the FRA300 is the most affordable I've seen so far.

    • @jcramond73
      @jcramond73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not wrong mate, just under $1400 here in Australia.

  • @grrrsoft
    @grrrsoft ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Nico. Thanks for this video. It made me buy one of the first units available in Germany since I was looking for a scope in the 300mm range for my Star Adventurer 2i and Petzval is a great addition (I already have too many adapters...). Although I recently was wondering, if I could fit my QHY268c to this instead of my EOS450D while shooting from the backyard. So I added up all the weights from your video + tech specs and just came at around 5.15kgs... Close. So weight reduction time. Removed the handle and put it on a scale with all unneeded screws. 167g, whew. But out of curiosity, I put the whole unit on the scale... And to my surprise it only had a weight of 2925g without the handle but with the USB heating band attached?! I also put my 450D on the scale for comparison and it was only 6g off compared to the factory data. So now I wonder what is missing in my FRA300 compared to yours 😄 I hope I can sleep tonight...

  • @NikonJax
    @NikonJax 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm torn between the Askar 300 and the Starfield 60. They both look pretty great. Thanks for the terrific review!

  • @LogansAstro
    @LogansAstro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice review and comparison. I was just wondering, in the aberration inspector the stars in the bottom left on the Askar looked quite elongated to me but I didn't see that corner on the Askar talked about. I have issues with elongation of stars in the corners of my Redcat (it went back to WO for "repair" but still has some issues). I was thinking about replacing it with something like the Askar but those stars in the bottom left of the Askar looked similar to what I am getting in my Redcat.

  • @Cdubwow
    @Cdubwow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is great. With my Redcat I get fairly significant "coma" at the edges with an APS-C I don't know if that's just my particular Redcat as I don't really see it that bad on yours, especially since you're full frame. I'm planning to buy the FRA300 for this exact reason, that I don't get any coma at the edges with my 2600MC Pro. I usually check my frames in ASTAP and have mild to none in camera tilt so I can assume that's accurate and not a tilt issue.

  • @SIGP229TPOC
    @SIGP229TPOC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice review. I have the FRA500. Love it. One thing to note, is they are Petzval, so you don't have to worry about backfocus as much.

    • @Matt_10203
      @Matt_10203 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s one of the nice QoL things about these scopes.

  • @DawgcityClev
    @DawgcityClev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good review. But if it's being touted as a quintuplet, then there should be no CA as far as I'm concerned regardless of the budget price point. It looks like it has the potential to be another tiny beast as I call the smaller scopes with punch, like the Sharpstar 76mm APO.

  • @kevinashley478
    @kevinashley478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Nico. I was just curious about the clip where you show the Redcat side by side with the other scope. You mention the dark corners of the RC52, and I was wondering if you would still get the dark corners if you use a camera with a crop sensor, like the T3i, or would it still exist regardless of crop or full frame sensors?

  • @jimpoop
    @jimpoop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Nico, I might have to consider this. I have the redcat51 that I'm not as impressed with as I thought I'd be.

    • @ShotsOfEspresso
      @ShotsOfEspresso 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you explain why? I was thinking of getting the new GTI and a redcat 51 as my first DSO set up

    • @jfalcon1977
      @jfalcon1977 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would be very interested in knowing what has been your problems or experience. I am really considering a Red Cat 51. I love the colors I see in the OSC star clusters in Astrobin. I think it is hard to beat but, would love to know real user experience and possibly issues that I may have skipped before deciding in the purchase. Thanks in advance!!

  • @reidchandler6486
    @reidchandler6486 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is a fair video when looking into wider fov's.. i image mono, it would be nice to see what the asi2600mm would be as I have no idea what your dslr sensor size is, or if your cam is modified. there are so many variations to this hobby. I have the reducer waiting for my FRA400 which puts me at 280mm with the 2600mm and am very excited to see the images I'll be able to get with it. doesn't look like I'll be getting that until September, if I'm lucky....

  • @Psychlist1972
    @Psychlist1972 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for disclosing and marking this as having a paid promotion. (I realize the paid promotion is Squarespace, but it's also the free scopes)

  • @astrotan
    @astrotan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would you ever do a review on the Svbony Doublet Refractors in the near future?

  • @IDSForecasting
    @IDSForecasting 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks!

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, thank you for the 'super thanks'! I really appreciate it Forecasting. Clear skies, Nico

  • @jimmydingo4752
    @jimmydingo4752 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which camera is best with the Recat 51? I’ve a main camera of Canon EOS R6. What is needed between the camera and lens? Sorry for all the questions. Love this type of photography.

  • @huexley
    @huexley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You need to make a Jazz playlist !

  • @victorpablo4636
    @victorpablo4636 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recently bought the scope and will start with my Nikon Z6ii. I am intrigued as to the ideal 1) mount and 2) camera for this scope. The options you present make sense. Why spend $2k on a mount if there is one for $700 that does the job)? The 533 camera with filter wheels and filters is just over $2k! So when considering such large sums I wonder if they are really worth it and if they are the right choice. A salesperson told me that if I bought the 533 camera, I would be unable to use it with some ZWO equipment. Still a learning curve ahead.

  • @AAE-cg1il
    @AAE-cg1il 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Informative video.

  • @icyxxxxx
    @icyxxxxx หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Woah cool!

  • @alandyer910
    @alandyer910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the test. The FRA300 is also comparable to the SharpStar 61 with its f/4.5 reducer for 275mm focal length, which is also the same as the infamous OPT Radian 61. The SharpStar / Radian 61 can both be used visually, but it looks like the FRA300 cannot? It is just for imaging? Looks like your results closely match the spot diagrams provided for the FRA300 which do show a bit of lateral chromatic aberration. And unlike the larger FRA astrographs there’s no additional reducer available for the 300 for an even faster configuration as an option. But f/5 is pretty nice! Looks like a good combo with the GTi mount. Cheers!

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Re: visual use. No luck with a mirror diagonal, not enough inward focus. Holding an eye piece up, I can see where it would focus, and you'd need a very thin adapter, and even then I don't think it would work with all eyepieces. So I'd say technically possible, but not ideal for visual.

    • @alandyer910
      @alandyer910 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NebulaPhotos That’s what I thought. Similar to the RedCat in that respect. Thanks!

    • @tombennett7993
      @tombennett7993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alandyer910 Doesn't the Redcat have a diagonal that will work for visual?

  • @stevenharper6394
    @stevenharper6394 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video Nico. I'm torn between the FRA300 and the Z61. If you had to choose which would it be?

  • @dgdave2673
    @dgdave2673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome review, but immediately I could notice this Askar is mounted on the new Skywatcher GTI mount. Did you test it yet? Very interested as the payload capacity itself was not improved compared to the Adventurer 2i Pro that I have tried but only usable for very light setups.

    • @Cheshire090
      @Cheshire090 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd love to know how it went on the GTI mount as well.

  • @oq17
    @oq17 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello - very nice video . Thank you .
    I am considering the FRA400 .
    I have a 2” screw in optolong l enhance filter . It’s not clear to me how I can use that with this scope .
    How do I mount it ?
    Thank you

  • @tombennett7993
    @tombennett7993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Nico, if you were going to get a new widefield refractor for astrophotography and are looking at pairing something with either the new Skywatcher SA GTi or the iOptron Skyhunter (and using a max of APS-C size sensors), what would you pick out of the two scopes mentioned here? Ideally be able to fit everything into a backpack still, which has me leaning towards a Redcat 51 paired with the Skyhunter.

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, for that kind of portability, go for the Redcat 51

  • @fireislandmavic5939
    @fireislandmavic5939 ปีที่แล้ว

    i wonder if my ef-m mount canon m6 mark ii can hook up to the askar

  • @mr.f.9672
    @mr.f.9672 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you look at the lens design of fra300 the rear lens group lenses are drawn with distance where the last lens sits in the rotator. Is this design ok? By looking at the lens design of fra400 the rear lens group lenses are close together and sit more in the middle of the telescope. Which design is better for dedicated astro cams regarding any deviations in the imaging train?

  • @IceNein763
    @IceNein763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These four and five element designs seemed expensive to me, UNTIL I looked at how much field flatteners cost, so that's a $150 minimum, and probably more like $250 expense.

  • @stuartriley
    @stuartriley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice setup and great output for both instruments Nico. Question for you: I see you are using the Mac to process the images. Do you use it to control the camera and mount too?

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't, but I have friends that do. There are a few options. One: use a virtual machine with Windows installed. Two: Use Mac-compatible software like Nebulosity/PHD2. Three: Use a distributed approach with a Raspberry Pi and INDI/KStars/EKOS (all free)

  • @mwales2112
    @mwales2112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My first and only refractor is the Astro-Tech AT65EDQ quad that I use use today. It still takes great images but being a bit longer FL and a little slower at f6.5 than the Askar. I do use a 0.85 focal reducer to make it a little wider.
    Would it be much of an upgrade to replace it with this Askar? Thanks

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've never been able to secure an AT65EDQ since they rarely come up on the used market. I'd say probably stick with what you have as this would be pretty similar.

  • @phcalama
    @phcalama 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi. Great comparison review. Can you explain why putting a guide scope on top and an ASIAir on the finder shoe might be preferred to the other way around?

    • @whocares5946
      @whocares5946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Weight distribution. Putting the heaver thing on top will cause less pull to one side and make balance easier to obtain

    • @phcalama
      @phcalama 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whocares5946 Makes sense but I was thinking that there might be an advantage to offset weighting to offset backlash.

  • @Korruptor711
    @Korruptor711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This looks like the perfect setup for me. Do you have a build list for everything? I'm guessing the sw gti is too close to the maximum weight. what would be a step up from the gti? (the Sky-Watcher EQM-35?).

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, EQM-35 or HEQ5 would be good steps up from the GTi, but still not too heavy.

  • @skydetective
    @skydetective 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks so much for this! I've been dissatisfied with my Canon 300mm f/4 L prime for astrophotography and am looking to replace it. Question: didn't see anything about adapters, so how would it mount to either my Canon 90D or Canon Ra? Thanks!

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It comes standard with a 48mm thread, so you just need a 48mm wide t-adapter for Canon EF or RF.

    • @skydetective
      @skydetective 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NebulaPhotos Thanks Nico! I know what I want for my birthday now. Check out what I've done with just standard DSLR cameras and lenses. I'm guessing this will scale up my quality even higher. th-cam.com/video/SiyRznMDdjo/w-d-xo.html

  • @astrogadge2276
    @astrogadge2276 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Nico, I take it the subs you were comparing were taken without any narrowband filters present?? Cheers!

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Correct, just a Canon Ra connected to the back of the telescopes, with the Astronomik L-2 clip in Luminance filter I always leave in the camera body.

  • @Weezarvil
    @Weezarvil 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait to buy it for x5 the dollar price yay! XD

  • @othonbenavente1876
    @othonbenavente1876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nico. Thanks for the review. Is Askar 300 too much scope for the Ioptron Sky guider pro? With a canon rp? I also appreciate how you can review a product without losing your integrity in the process. Thank you.

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd estimate you'd be at around 8 pounds with just the scope and the RP, and a bit over 9 pounds if you add a small guide scope. So you should be fine on weight. Of course everything is harder with a tracker when you push it to it's limit, but I've done a fair amount of imaging with the AT60ED at 360mm f.l. on the iOptron SmartEQ. With good polar alignment, I could do 30 sec. unguided subs and 2-3 minutes with guiding. I suspect you could get similar results with the iOptron Skyguider Pro.

  • @PowerScissor
    @PowerScissor ปีที่แล้ว

    I've watched many videos about focal length, ratios, aperture, speed and I just haven't wrapped my head around it yet.

  • @whatnomustard
    @whatnomustard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank u sir now I don't know which one to buy lol

  • @wolfgangkuechle9085
    @wolfgangkuechle9085 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very nice review. I realized that you had the Askar sitting on the new StarAdventurer GTI mount. Did you take the images with this mount? The Jellyfish blew my socks off ...

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately, the GTi arrived a week after I took the Jellyfish shot (which was taken on the EQ6R) so I've yet to test that combo, but hope to soon.

    • @grrrsoft
      @grrrsoft 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NebulaPhotos I'd be very happy to hear about the results. I'm currently looking for a light apo to pair with my Star Adventurer and had considered getting a RedCat. This Askar seems like a good alternative, since I wanted a bit more focal length :)

    • @wolfgangkuechle9085
      @wolfgangkuechle9085 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NebulaPhotos Thank you, looking forward to your report. The Askar + guide scope + camera + filter wheel may get you pretty close to the maximum load of the GTI. May be an interesting test how the GTI performs at its limits.

  • @alanalain4884
    @alanalain4884 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Nico. Thank you for another awesome video... I didn't experiment yet, but hope to this month, with my Ioptron skyguider Pro and RedCat 51, and I was wondering what one should do with the mount after Polaris alignement.
    It would be logical that once Polaris is aligned the mount should be running at all times after that to now follow the stars, but when you mount your camera after having aligned, and while the Skyguider is now running, doesn't it impact the alignment you just did when mounting the camera on the Skyguider?
    And if one needs later to refocus the camera lens, does touching the camera and lens when it's on the running Skyguider slow down the mount motor while doing so, thus maybe losing the set alignment?
    I always wondered about that... Thanks for any insight if you have the time...

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Alan, Polar alignment is solely about pointing the mount physically in the right direction and with the right latitude adjustment on the wedge or ball head. The mount does not have to be on to polar align, and polar alignment will stay good for months as long as as the mount is not not disturbed. So to answer your question, you can definitely turn the skyguider off after polar aligning and then turn it back when ready to track. The key thing is not to disturb where the mount is pointed while attaching the camera. I think there is an optional declination bracket that should allow you to polar align with the camera/telescope attached. That would probably be ideal if I'm remembering correctly. Been awhile since I've seen a skyguider pro.

    • @alanalain4884
      @alanalain4884 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NebulaPhotos Hi Nico. thank you greatly for your answer. It is very clear with your explanations, again some spatial dumbness and not thinking that indeed, I can stop the tracker to fiddle with the camera as it's not the whole head that moves (logical) but just the mounted camera, and the head stays always aligned on Polaris as long as we don't move the tripod it's on, or its position.
      You are right though for the Sky Guider Pro, if mounted with declination bracket and not direct ballhead, it gives the advantage of leaving an aperture for re-polar aligning, even with camera mounted, which I believe will prove convenient because it might be a more frequent occurrence that one might think of to hit the tripod or do something that would throw the alignement off...
      Thank you again for your time answering my question, it's very much appreciated.
      As an evolution of that small setup of mine, I see many quickly jump into astro guiding for more accuracy, and on this subject, I was wondering if you have ever heard of a well praised system but not common in US, which is the Lacerta MGEN-3, or would it be too complicated for a beginner, or can only work with telescope? Yet it seems very powerful and convenient for light travel, although very expensive.
      I have to go and see on your video if you created content about astro-guiding and any beginner's advice you may have given for the ones with just their little tracker, DSLR and lens.
      This MGEN-3 looks like a very cool machine though, but I'm not advanced enough to be able to tell, and maybe there is a better, or simpler, US market equivalent...
      Best...

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alanalain4884 Hi Alan, I've never tried the Lacerta MGEN, but thank you for the reminder, as I've been meaning to get one to try. The nice thing about the MGEN system for DSLR users, is it is self-contained, you can autoguide and dither without a separate computer attached to a guide camera. Another option (cheaper) that is popular today is to buy a ZWO guide camera, and ZWO's proprietary 'ASIAir' device. The ASIAir is a Raspberry Pi mini computer with ZWO's software. It is controlled from your smartphone or table and can take care of communication between the mount and the guide camera. Generally, I have chosen not to auto-guide when using lightweight setups like a star tracker and a DSLR. The biggest advantage is to be able to dither between exposures to break up the 'walking noise' patterns, but the downside is it really complicates the rig. Maybe the Lacerta MGEN you mentioned is the best way to keep the rig fairly simple, but add guiding/dithering.

  • @dougross51
    @dougross51 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So is this the Cunard line of scopes!???

  • @andyclark5107
    @andyclark5107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    f/5 to f/5.6 is a difference of 1/3 of a stop as opposed to 1/2.

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah, you're right. I misspoke.

  • @jrags35
    @jrags35 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the needed back focus, 55mm like for 1600mm or 71mm from the spec sheet I saw ?

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a quad so there is no strict backfocus requirement like with an external corrector, but your camera will definitely come to focus with 55mm spacing. Didn't try anything else

  • @LowBlow
    @LowBlow ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok newbie question here but does a 300mm telescope equate to 6x magnification like a 300mm lens does? what differences would I notice between this telescope and my Canon 300mm f/2.8 L IS USM?

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  ปีที่แล้ว

      There won't be any difference in terms of magnification or field of view if you use the same camera. The differences would just be in the quality of the star field. Generally a camera lens doesn't do as good a job with stars as a telescope, but some Canon L lenses like the one you mention are quite good, esp. if you stop down to f/4 or f/5.

  • @patrickbisaillon307
    @patrickbisaillon307 ปีที่แล้ว

    @nebulaphotos are you sure about 3.4 KG / 6 LB 11 OZ for the FRA300? Any possible error in your conversion from LB to KG or the other way around?

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Whoops, probably should have been 3.04 kg. That's my guess for the error, good catch

  • @39zack
    @39zack ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello :D
    Any chance you will test the Sky-Watcher Evolux 62 ED?

  • @Chorge1972
    @Chorge1972 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How did the GTI handle those exact 5kg?! Unfortunately cables, Dewheater and ASIair will add another 500g… would be VERY interesting to see how SA GTI can handle overweight

  • @Jay-xq1dc
    @Jay-xq1dc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which one would you recommend the most, redcat or askar? Or are they both so close it's best to go with the cheapest option?

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Once you consider the accessories included with the Askar, they cost about the same. So tough decision. Personally, I'd go with the Redcat if the little extra weight/size was a concern, and the Askar if not.

  • @grandmasteryoda9893
    @grandmasteryoda9893 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how will the false color stand out in photo brigt stuff like m45 or orions stars? i think if use color camera

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not bad at all. The blue Horsehead example was a color camera

  • @manexsungahid7025
    @manexsungahid7025 ปีที่แล้ว

    just wondering what went to this setup (FRA300 and GTi). I'm looking at these combo.

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  ปีที่แล้ว

      I still think it's a good combo, but I've been busy with other reviews and other stuff so haven't had time to get it out much. Let me know if you have any questions about it though.

  • @mikehardy8247
    @mikehardy8247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have 1st generation star adventurer (I Ordered GT1. fingers crossed). Now that you've been playing with GT1, are first impressions good? As far as scopes, are you concerned with the extra weight on the tracker? Pretty much still using Lenses.

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I am liking the GTi. Will need to get back to you on loading it up with lots of weight.

    • @mikehardy8247
      @mikehardy8247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kool, what I was getting at, is the setup in this video looks fairly heavy. Was wondering how much it weighs, and how it's handling that?

  • @mikeleahy5283
    @mikeleahy5283 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the Askari 180 , do you think it is a better value at 1/2 the price same as the tpo 180?

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Mike, I'm not sure, I haven't used it. I guess you could try comparing the results I share in the video to your results and judge for yourself.

  • @Mistr_A
    @Mistr_A 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    budget scope is relative to the exchange rate, in Australia this isn't a budget scope :(

  • @559maxx
    @559maxx ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video nico !!
    If you have one to choose between the two, which one would it be?

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For me, the Askar because I prefer it’s focuser and more traditional format. Optically they are both good and the Redcat might actually be slightly sharper. I’d only choose the Redcat if weight were an issue- for example putting it on a star tracker.

    • @559maxx
      @559maxx ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NebulaPhotos thanks!!

  • @rockanthems
    @rockanthems ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I use a DSLR with the Askar fra 300?

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, for sure, just need a 48mm t-adapter for your DSLR (Canon EF, Nikon F, etc.)

  • @Ed-yj8ts
    @Ed-yj8ts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nico. Great video.
    I have Canon and Canon astro modified bodies and lenses. I also have a huge Meade SCT telescope which is painful. This little gem looks appealing but I am still trying to understand APO refractor telescopes or astrographs. To me they seem similar to a camera and a lens. What is better about say the FRA300 versus using a regular Canon telephoto lens and a 6D where I can get f/2.8? Is it the APO optics that minimize CA? Is the magnification similar? I'm guessing one would not use this for planetary photography. Just trying to understand the strengths of the APO. I'll Google it.

    • @RichardKinch
      @RichardKinch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A Canon DSLR lens will perform better than these so-called astro lenses. Image resolution is strictly a function of f/number, so it's not even a contest between f/2.8 beating f/5. You can lock focus on a DSLR simply with a piece of removable tape. Not sure why these astro lenses even have a market. They do adapt to various bodies (Canon, Nikon, etc), so perhaps that's a minor advantage. The prices aren't favorable.

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The main reason people prefer these small telescopes over camera lenses is they render the star field better meaning few aberrations on the stars, and round stars out to the corners of a full frame sensor. I've used many camera lenses, and even the best ones have trouble not distorting the stars in the corners of a full frame sensor.

    • @RichardKinch
      @RichardKinch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NebulaPhotos Canon "L" lenses are better corrected and less aberrant than any of these aftermarket products. "Astro" lenses are not superior in primary performance. You might like the secondary features like the dovetail mechanics, but the "astro" optics are overrated. This is my scientific opinion as an optical engineer working in lens design and performance evaluation, and a lifelong astrophotographer by hobby.

    • @xintianlin2275
      @xintianlin2275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you look at the Canon 300mm f/4L IS USM, it is $1028 vs $949. The auto focus and higher speed are worth the extra. If one can find a non-IS version, it is probably cheaper, not to mention a large market on eBay for used ones. A direct comparison of image quality will be appreciated.

  • @psuaero100
    @psuaero100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 14:40 you say "full frame camera". Earlier you showed a QHY533M when you weighed the camera/scope combination. Did you change to an full frame DSLR or something in between? The 533M has a 16 mm diagonal sensor vs. a full frame camera with a 43 mm diagonal sensor. I assume that would make a huge difference at the edges with vignetting and possibly flatness. Still, I like the look and the price/performance seems quite good. I already have a Redcat so this one isn't for me but I'll probably tell a few friends who "need" a wider field scope.

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry, I had the 533 installed for the demo, but the comparison shots were taken with the Canon EOS Ra as mentioned at 09:10. Then at the end, for the Jellyfish shot, I switch back to the 533. Totally see how that could have been confusing.

    • @psuaero100
      @psuaero100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NebulaPhotos Wow, I missed the mention of the Ra. I saw the two frames you were showing were rectangular so should have re-watched and listened more closely for the change in camera. Thanks!

  • @UnderDriven17
    @UnderDriven17 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a difference in ease of focus between these two different focusing methods? I imagine the helical focuser would be more natural when using the Redcat for terrestrial photography, but is one more precise than the other when focusing on stars?

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, the rack and pinion focuser is more precise due to the 10:1 reduction knob, it allows for much smaller movements than the Redcats helical.

    • @UnderDriven17
      @UnderDriven17 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NebulaPhotos Thanks for the quick reply! How would you rate the Askar 200mm lens coarse and fine adjustments vs. the Askar 300mm rack and pinion for precise focus?

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UnderDriven17 It's in-between a RedCat/Lens and a rack and pinion. I like it slightly better than the Redcat, but not as much as the Askar 300 (typical refractor focuser). Another reason I prefer the rack and pinion is down the road if you want to add a motor for automated focusing, it works much better. With the Redcat/Askar200/camera lens, you need to use a pully which is annoying as it makes manual rotation of the field practically impossible, while with a normal telescope focuser, they typically put the manual rotator behind the focuser on the drawtube.

    • @UnderDriven17
      @UnderDriven17 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NebulaPhotos Thanks for the info. Great channel!

  • @SodaAnt7
    @SodaAnt7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s the guide scope you have in the Askar?

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  ปีที่แล้ว

      That is the William Optics Uniguide 50mm

  • @NenYim
    @NenYim 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    who won the camera package?
    I've not seen a notification about it yet

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oscar S. from Texas. www.nebulaphotos.com/giveaway/

  • @rashie
    @rashie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍👍

  • @desmcmorrow2978
    @desmcmorrow2978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent, fair, critical evaluation of the capabilities of a new contender versus an established favourite. I love my redcat with the Deep-sky eaf focusser and asi2600mm/mc combo. Not perfect but for £700, stunning value for money. I would like a FF dslr to couple with it for a more portable system. Which one would you choose? Ideally want an astro modded camera. Canon 6D (cheap and easy to mod) but long in the tooth? R or R6 (more expensive and challenging to mod)? R5 too blimming expensive. Will be using it for Milky Way season with sigma art 28/40mm lenses. Thanks, Des

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd get the R if you can find a convenient place to have it modded. The R is better in every way over the 6D, but not too expensive. The R5/R6 are too expensive to mod IMO.

    • @desmcmorrow2978
      @desmcmorrow2978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NebulaPhotos Many thanks. Sounds like good advice. Cheers, Des

    • @desmcmorrow2978
      @desmcmorrow2978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NebulaPhotos Thanks again Nico - I've ordered a canon R. One quick follow up if you have time - which RF-EF adapter do you use? One that takes 2" filters? Cheers, Des

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@desmcmorrow2978 I have both the normal one ($99) and the one that accepts special drop-in filters ($299). Neither accept 2" filters out of the box, but there is a guy who is making 3D-printed holders if you want to take a part a 2" filters and adapt it yourself. Hutech also makes some IDAS filters pre-adapted to the Canon filter holder. Astronomik also makes their full range of filters as 'clip-ins' for the Canon R series so none of those require the special adapter to work. So lots of options, but most of the time, I'm just using the normal $99 adapter. More about this in my full review of the Canon Ra here: th-cam.com/video/BqzNiW0uvOA/w-d-xo.html

    • @desmcmorrow2978
      @desmcmorrow2978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks again. Most kind. Camera and standard adapter arriving tomorrow. Off to Tenerife/ La Gomera for June’s new moon for a week. 28 N, as opposed to 54N where I live so hoping for some good views of the core of the Milky Way. Cheers, Des

  • @rockanthems
    @rockanthems ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I Powering the camera and mount with Celestron Power tank?

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  ปีที่แล้ว

      You could, but it might not last all night if you are also running dew heater strips, etc. Maybe having two Celestron Power tanks or just running some things on separate smaller batteries would work.

    • @rockanthems
      @rockanthems ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NebulaPhotos I heard the cords inputs aren’t the same ?

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rockanthems It's the standard 12v plug on the GTi if that's what you mean

  • @chrismcgrew4692
    @chrismcgrew4692 ปีที่แล้ว

    Niko, I just got my FRA300 and the focuser only extends out about 21mm from the body - is that normal? It gets to 21mm and has a hard stop. I expected it to extend much farther.

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it is how this scope/focuser is designed. If you attach your camera with a standard attachment (55mm from threads to sensor) it will come to focus, but exact backfocus isn't necessary. I don't think it will work with eyepieces easily though.

    • @chrismcgrew4692
      @chrismcgrew4692 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NebulaPhotos good to know, thanks. Yep, I use a ZWO filter drawer, which combined with my camera gives me around 55mm of backspacing. T

    • @chrismcgrew4692
      @chrismcgrew4692 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NebulaPhotos Do you know what kind of ED glass element it has? I've not been able to find that anywhere.

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrismcgrew4692 No, I don't. Askar does not say. This is true across their whole range of scopes.

  • @Prof.Laitharth
    @Prof.Laitharth ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think this could work on a star adventurer 2i with a DSLR? It's a little on the heavy side

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I think I'd rather have a RedCat, but this one could work too, just a bit heavy.

    • @Prof.Laitharth
      @Prof.Laitharth ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NebulaPhotos thank you !

  • @jimmydingo4752
    @jimmydingo4752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Greetings Nico;
    Upgrading to HEQ5 mount with SLR. Suggestion for first telescope. Wildcat 51 unattainable and others so pricey. I value your opinion. Thank you.

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What is your budget? Look at the Svbony 503 line or the Astro-tech AT line for some nice budget doublets that can be fitted with matched field flatteners.

    • @Naztronomy
      @Naztronomy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NebulaPhotos +1 for Astro-Tech. I'm using my AT60ED and it's amazing. I'm still waiting to get my hands on a flattener/reducer so I've had to crop in a lot for recent images, but the optics are great. It's no William-optics grade scope but it's really good for the price point.

    • @jimmydingo4752
      @jimmydingo4752 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tried 2 times for the HEQ5 and tripod shorted on both. Upgrading to the HEQ6 and DID find the RedCat 51. Will return shortly with probably a gaggle of more questions. Thank you for your kind response.

  • @pleappleappleap
    @pleappleappleap ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not seriously considering doing this, but I'm just curious.
    Does anyone do imaging with a monochrome camera and more filters than just red, green, and blue? Like, seven-color or fifteen-color images?

    • @the_astro_guyy
      @the_astro_guyy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes people do that with 7 filters, LRGBSHO

  • @remilua
    @remilua 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have a measurement of the tube diameter? I really don't like its tube ring =P

    • @NebulaPhotos
      @NebulaPhotos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From my measurement, looks to be a 90mm diameter tube, so lots of good options for rings.