Save Hundreds on Fire Glass! - The Lava Rock Trick
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video, I show you a secret to saving HUNDREDS of dollars for outfitting your fire pit with beautiful amazing fire glass. Montana Fire Pits LOVES saving our clients and viewers money!
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This is amazing. I will post my pit when it's done, I can't wait. Thank you Montana fire pits for the equipment!
You are so welcome! Can’t wait to see it all fired up!! Tag on Instagram too. @montanafirepits
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@@Montanafirepits I am so sad I want to watch this
One thing I wish I had known or had been warned about is that these gorgeous Fire Glass rocks have this fine dust (even on the plastic bag! when it's shipped to you) and that dust is sharp glass-dust! That basically is tiny shards of glass that can't really be seen with the naked eye...but surely can be felt on the human skin!!!! From our experience: These aren't wooden splinters. Take it from me...only an ER doc... using a special lamp & goggles can get these shards of microscopic glass out! (We learned the hard way) Hope our experience saves someone a trip to the ER and uses gloves EVEN WHEN OPENING THE SHIPPING BOX & OPENING THE PLASTIC BAG TO THE GLASS ROCKS.) Good luck! 😬
Sylvia thanks for the advice
Even worse, you can breathe it in, which in turn leads to lung and breathing disorders later on. Same with DE powder for pool filtration.
Great video!
Just a suggestion when it comes to removing the fire glass, if you need to.
Use a empty shop vac. It will remove the fire glass off the screening, then you can remove the screen! Fast and easy
Jeez...was looking forward to him lighting it up for us to see the full effect..
Me Too!!!
Bs
I'll 5 minutes of my life wasted
Probably doesn’t work. lol
Great tip. I thought using a screen was a given between the two medias. ;-)
Opinion: The lava rocks look a lot better in the woods or mountains, while the blue glass looks better on a beach home or ultra modern how.
That point of view helped me choose my rocks
Thanks for the tip about the aluminum screen! Had heard about the layering, but never thought of that. It will surely be a big help if ever I want to change it out!
Just a tip for future videos.
Try not to talk as if we’re all hearing impaired or mentally slow. No offence intended at all.
Thanks, playing the video at 1.25 speed, way better :P
@@lcthalen That makes this video way better! Thanks for the tip!
That was funny!!
AWESOME!!! I can't wait to get my bundle! Jonathan is super friendly and although they're in their peak season, he makes time to answer messages!!! Thanks Jonathan, it was great speaking with you today!
what about a ring burner without the jets popping up? can I just lay the screen over it?
I dont think u can as the ring holes have to be exposed
you could put the screen Under the ring, cut out a hole in the middle to fit then you only have to fill the space up to cover the burners that way, might be an option.
I love the way montana firepits responds to the comments! Think i will be buying elsewere
Typo , i didnt mean elsewere ,dont know how rhat happened,my bad
My mistake, typo, i didnt mean elswere, great vid and product
Thanks I do have a fire pit ,had never seen of fire glass before so I looked it up👍
feel like he's talking to me like he's mad at me
20 seconds into this video I knew this guy was a big talker. Too much drama over nothing.
He is mad at u ;)
I felt like I was slow and he was tired of explaining himself over and over... pay attention
He makes me feel like I’m 5 years old, I’m five and a HALF!
Thank you so much it is really good trick to use the red lava for making the base and top with the fire glass ! So beautiful!
For someone who sells these that fire table looks shite. I think every other DIY one I’ve seen on TH-cam looks better then that.
Plus with those necks exposed it will just look like candles, the idea of the glass is for the gas to flow randomly through it so it looks like a fire (hence the name) so the jets need to be like an inch under the glass.
Agree, the corner saw marks are still visible. If you use propane, it is heavier than air so don't cover your circular burner with broken glass...it will build up below and then ignite all at once. Instead, try some 1" diamond Fire Glass. It allows the propane / air to move through it without trapping it below.
Thank you for the great tip😊
Merry Christmas to you and your family.🎄🎅🏻
Why doesn't he light the finish product?
Solid idea on saving money by starting with lava rocks first!! I also want to say thanks to Sylvia, for telling us about the fine glass dust, and to wear gloves. I think I will add goggles for when I do my fireplace. Question.... Is the glass that you sell, tempered glass or heat treated first, and thus designed for fireplaces?
This glass IS designed specifically for fireplaces and fire pits.
Was looking at videos about fire pits and fire glass because I just bought my first one last week. It's a propane fire pit. The assembly instructions said not to cover the burner holes on the fire ring or the igniter box that is positioned within the ring. So I didn't. The ring is exposed and looks pretty ugly. It came with lava rocks but I purchased some fire glass because it is visually more appealing. I think I'll give this a go to see how well it can burn with the ring covered up. Hope nothing explodes lol.
How did it go? Seeking this information as well. Was told gas can accumulate on lava rocks causing a potential explosion?
@@robertcabrera3375 I just used the fire glass but I never did cover up the burner holes with it because I was afraid to. I just didn't want to take chances because something looked good. Other than that, the firepit works great.
I feel like a child watching this guy
This is great.... But what if you have a circular thing with holes in it instead of individual jets like yours in the video... Seems like you'd have to cut a huge hole in the middle, which would defeat the purpose of being able to lift the screen with the glass out of the pit as a unit... :/
I tried this with a circular burner that has holes around it using the broken fire glass. Unfortunately, some of the propane, which is heavier than air, manages to get under the screen and trapped in the lava rock. It builds up and then ignites and flares up and seemed quite dangerous. Only way to solve that would be to expose the entire burner which looks bad. Instead, I took out everything (lava rock and screen included) and just ordered some 1" Fire glass diamonds which allow better air circulation, fills the pan a lot quicker than the broken glass and are much less expensive than the broken glass. It looks and works great now with no flare ups.
Thank you brother for the amazing tip.
Your gonna save me at least a couple $100 dollars on this tip!
Keep the videos coming.
Thanks again
Dude...I was digging it up until the end...WTF didn’t you fire it up! Lol
I had no idea lava rock blows up :( lol I was so happy I found black lava rock for my 48x48 gas pit. It lightly rained. This evening fired it up and holy smokes rocks exploding as if it’s wood cracking. Rocks in the pool rocks in the windows of the house rocks in the bushes….
Oh heck yeah
This has been up a while but I had to comment. Brilliant idea. Just got my first pit last wknd before our Halloween party - huge hit too! Glass WOULD be much nicer looking and this concept is great! Thanx much (if you see this lol)
That was it? I was expecting you to light it up. That was 5 min wasted
We have a zillion other videos showing the burners lit.
I set this up on my FirePit and tested it this morning. gas accumulated very funny. When the pit finally lit a 4’ high flame shot out. Is there a trick I am missing here? How do I light this thing without burning my eyebrows off? :)
Very threatening with the finger pointing. your mean!
How do you use the aluminum with a fire ring? Do you just lay it on top?
Is that a bag of dyed blue broken windshield glass because really looks like
This is great! Any suggestions for a round burner?
Just purchased a small round LP pit and this idea will come in handy! Thank you for the info and great vid! I was also hoping you'd light it up at night ;-)
Great money saver!
Why red vs. black lava rock? Does the color of Glass you put on top make a difference for what base color (black or red) you choose? Also, some sites recommend using large lava rock, then smaller, THEN the glass. Do you think that makes a difference? Also, is this still a viable alternative for an indoor fireplace (ventless)?
J C red or black makes no difference. We recommend 1” lava, and with the screen it should do the trick.
Not sure about indoor fireplaces.
hi is it safe to put lava rock inside a fireplace to save fire glass ?
I would have liked to see the fire in the dark!
Right on looks great
Thanks a loty friend, I will do this way on a re new fire pit in Mexico, Punta de Mita, four seasons villages, I really appreciate that tips.
Sounds amazing. You're welcome!
The leftover glass is for the aquarium. When you put new material on or beside old material, the old material looks twice as old.
I still like the basic idea.
My glass is clear it’s turning black like it’s scorching any reason why? I’m new to this I don’t have lava on bottom just glass
I you emphasized “red” lava rock. I’m using black reflective flash as m medium so is there a reason I shouldn’t use black lava glass?
My fire pit has round jets...do I still use same process...
Brilliant idea!
How would I do with for a round fire pit?
So the girlfriend wanted a "rustic" padio on the cheap as it is a rental townhouse So i told her I can build anything ..Let's really take it to the test and see if we can do a full set for a price No one has done before.
We live 3 streets away from a small bussiness area Resturant foods supplier...Coffee roasters etc Many of which have skids to pick up..5 Trips 15 skids later.. I began banging out boards and removing and tapping the old nails normal again
I made 2 couchs that fits 2 1/2 people each. Cushions we removed from a old couch being thrown out and washed the foam with pinesol and dishsoap boiling water
When i stopped at the coffee roasters I asked about the skids I was only able to get broken ones with a few good boards ,..However they gave me for free 12 Burlap coffee bean bags with logos on it from Brazil Peru which i added the foam and sewn shut
Firetable is 4 skids high to fit the Propane tank from my BBQ as a test fit..... My first money spent?
$1.25 on a Dollar store mix of Finshing nails ...Oh and before i forget.. all that driving around cost gas right? Nope we own a Chevy volt which was have not used gas in 1 month since new and dealer filled it
I have 4 wheels from my toolbox i never used ..they might go on...Dollar store also sells Blue black green white red amber Glass rock I think its 1lb for $1.25 Lava rock at another store is $7.50 for 7lbs and a mini propane torch for Shou-Sugi-Ban ( charring a wood surface ) water-proofing the wood The metal square pan i looked online at crazy prices for DIY kits so i looked into a Resturant equiment supplier and bought a 4 in deep stainless steel water tray 28' long by 16' wide. remember these trays has a 2' extended lip so its 24' x 12' and that was $47
To date : 2 couches Done. 1 Firetable 75% built..$60 - $65
Coming : Burner and hoses. End table with hole for bucket when you want a 6 cold beers in ice : )
Is this only for gas? Or is it for terra cotta chimnea too?
Hi Mike. Excellent video! Thanks so much for taking the time to show us this fantastic suggestion. What do you think about putting pea gravel on top of the lava rocks to fill in the empty spaces so it won't make popping noises? Also, I researched using fire rocks with natural gas since you said it couldn't be. Other websites say it can. We are wanting to reinvent an old, outdated fireplace to look like a more modern linear one so it's important to know the answer to this question before we get started. Do you know something they don't? Thank you!
Subbed and turned on notifications. I don't have a gas fire pit but if I ever get one I could you'd these tricks.
I don’t have the aluminum screen yet ...but could I possibly use thick aluminum foil?
Brilliant idea man!!
I read that it is not recommended to mix the lava rock with the fire glass because it can create pockets of gas between the different sizes of media. Hmm.....but I like the idea.
That is for above the burners as the gas will rise above them. This is filling below the burners with a cheaper material lava rock, or gravel so less glass is used on top of the burners.
This is true if you use propane, which is heavier than air. I would suspect this would not be as much an issue (if at all) if using natural gas. See my comments prior.
Brilliant
Is it worth the extra effort to try to get natural gas to a new pit or use propane?
Will this work on a none gas pitt
Excellent thank you
Awwwww; we don't get to see it lit in the dark???
Will the lava rock degrade and need replacing?
I dig the screen for convenience sake. Thanks for that tip. That said, how am I saving hundreds??? Perhaps if I have a 15' fire pit. I'm seeing a savings of $20-$30 here o. A pit this size unless you are using silver ingots in your pit, lol.
There is the potential to save hundreds, depending on the size. In a 30" opening, at 3" depth, you'd need a couple hundred pounds of glass, where as in this case, only 30-40lbs. With larger fire pits, it can make all the difference.
@@Montanafirepits That makes more sense on a huge pit.
I am doing a 36in firepit and got about 200 pound lava rock. Do you think 40lbs glass will be enough to cover?
Presteezh you will be able to google “fire glass calculator” and put in various dimensions to determine for sure.
Montana Fire Pits I guess a better question how many inches of glass did you use on top that you were in able to see lava rock
Presteezh we place anywhere from 1-2”. Typically figure about 2” with our burners.
You’re a natural with these videos
You can have a fire pit on a wood patio? I want to get one but worried because I have a wood patio
As long as it's propane or natural gas powered, yes, you can put a fire pit on a wooden deck.
Rather than a wire mesh, howabout using lightweight ceramic fiber pebbles with the fire glass, then, if possible, dump everything in a bag, shake, and let gravity do the sorting?
I looked at your website and there is NO money saving there. Super Expensive!!
Mr. T Thanks for the comment. Glass is not cheap. The video is meant to show the savings by using a “filler” material first. 40 pounds of glass vs 100 or so for example. That’s how you “save hundreds”.
Man you would make a great boss when someone just can't understand their job
Brilliant!!!
Brilliant! Thanks for the thrifty tip! Much appreciated!
can I use this trick for indoor gas fireplace
Don’t see why not... indoor isn’t out expertise.
Thanks for the tips!
Does the lava rock and fire glass burn warmer together
Not really a noticable difference
Need help! Gas fire pit seems to work fine for 15-20 minutes, then flame dies out. Tank still full. Used 2-3 tanks and still does same thing. Is regulator bad? Why is it happening?
Good presentation, thanks.
Thank you!
I go to petsmart and buy fish tank rocks it for $30 😬
Great idea!
Great tip, thank you!
Thanks for the info. Good video!
Do we have to poke holes in the screen? In my case, I don't have jets.
Probably not if you don't have jets
I had some chimney guys replace the guts of my inside fireplace and they would not place the fire glass over the burners only some special sand. I wanted the look like you did for your outside pit. Do different gas lines require a different setup?
Genius... just genius.
Laca rock on bottom screen then fore glass saved you five minutes of a dude trying to make it sound like rocket science
Also you dont need a screen
Hi. Could you please clarify what type of screen is that? Can it be a regular aluminum window screen? I'm not sure they're fireproof. Thanks for your help!
CarolGLeite I did just use an aluminum screen, but cut out holes for the jets so they are not in direct contact with the jets.
Perfect! Thank you kindly!
We cut the screen so it is not in direct contact with the flame.
But to answer your question the aluminum screen will burn so keep it away from the flame
When he said lava rock I thought this was going to look spotty and horrible but hey, it actually looks good and I couldn't tell. 👍
Well, he talks alike the screen isn't going to deteriorate over the years so there is that... it probably will and then you have short, sharp shafts of aluminum screen to sift through along with the fireglass and the lava rocks. Also, is $120/bag actually a "cheap price" for this fire glass? Asking for a friend..LOL
All sounds good but it must not work very well here is your actual picture of a working
Didn’t even show us the fire in the end
You da man
I dig the video !!!! Hat is pretty cool Too
Are you using special lava rock for fire pits? Or is it just any old lava that you can get by the pickup load (at least in Oregon)?
Cameron B You must make sure that the lava rock used is acceptable for for pits. It can’t have any moisture content in it.
if you have an old tempered window around you can let off some steam and take a hammer to it. Instant fire glass.
Why didn't you show the pit lit up at night ????? C'mon man ?????
Thanks. I was concerned the pretty rocks would be mixed together with the ugly rocks. Who wants to pick every rock by hand?
How much was that fire pit? It looks better than the 200-300 dollar ones I see.
Did you say "save hundreds"? LOL...Amazon sells that glass cheap.
Thank you for the trick to save money! Sure need it since your products are very expensive.
Do you ship the Caribbean? Trinidad and Tobago to be exact.
Seneb8Khepera YES! We’ll ship anywhere.
How about breaking a used slider door with tempered glass instead?...you get a pile of uniform glass.
What type of screen was this ? I used window screen and it burned up.
It has to be aluminum or strong metal, you probably used the one that has some plastic in its fabrication.
Can U use fire glass on a regular outdoor fire pit that's not run by propane ?
Terrance Williams Fire Glass works with natural gas for propane only
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Ok thanks ...... That's what I figured...
This guy has two kids in college and still talks to them like there in kindergarten.
Smash 72Cutlass I felt like I was in trouble as he was explaining why to use the aluminum. 😒
Exactly what I was thinking .
The guy has useful info but the way he speaks sounds condescending as heck....like he's smart and we are all stupid.
@@bammortgage if you make a video for stupid people. Smart people and stupid people will understand it.
Oh, that's good!!
Sand works better for build up, then just put your glass on top.
ipon70 thanks for the comment. In fact, sand won’t work with the crossfire system. Our air intake is located on each jet and sand will clog the orifices of the Jets.
Montana Fire Pits interesting, well you learn something everyday. Thanks for the follow up.
@@ipon70 I used sand on my fire table in conjunction with the fire glass and some gas would get trapped underneath the wet sand. My 10' fire table EXPLODED four different times (and cracked two different 10'x4' granite tops! Went to lava rocks instead of the sand. Just an FYI...
just get shattered tempered glass from the junkyard. its the same thing but without color.
Your forgot the end product of turning it on man