There was a scrapped episode all about Mikey and Ralph’s relationship as they grew up. Implying that, as little kids, they were extremely close, but as they grew up, it distanced. I imagine it was Raphs overprotectiveness that pushed Mikey away.
Also don't forget about the scrapped one where everyone but Mikey is deaged so he has to be their big brother and take care of them for once (I am upset that many things got scrapped, but this is one of the most painful, no I will not shut up about it 😫)
I'm not ashamed to say that Rise Raph is maybe my favorite iteration of his character (along with Rise Donnie). I love how he's still that sometimes hot-headed and fight-loving character, but this time he's also big loveable meat-head with a heart of gold. His care and need for his family has an incredible duality to it, to the extent where it can be both his strength (teamwork in fighting) and his weakness (Raph alone). Unlike the previous version, this one really shows that he cares, and has more of a reason for his moments of frustration and hot-headedness without the excuse of it being his "personality" (not that that's entirely what the previous versions were, either). It's kind of refreshing to see a character of his type portrayed with an expression of caring that feels more genuine and direct and doesn't always rely on sarcastic quips or passive-aggressive remarks for the majority of his screen time.
I definitely agree here. Before watching any tmnt, I always knew raph as the “angry one”… that was just what I saw from him and how he was painted. It was nice to see them take it in a different perspective. Thank you so much for your comment!
The amount of love I have for this man, especially the Rise!version whose trying to save his idiots, is unhealthy. Thank you so much for this beautiful representation of him.
Of course! I love him as well. “Trying to save his idiots” - I absolutely love this lmao. Thank you so much for your comment! It really means a lot to me!
These incarnations of the turtle feel more like brothers and family to me. I feel horrible to have ignored this show when it needed it most, I will never do such a thing ever again. Being close minded never helps. Also Raph is my favorite
I myself didn’t even really know it existed until recently. I am absolutely devastated that we may never get more. However, I am staying hopeful because that movie was fire. If that’s how it has to end, it was a heck of a way to go out.
I think an argument can be made that Rise!Raph bears most of the effects of parentification. I have to assume that he basically acted as a parent to his brothers all throughout his life (since Splinter in the show was pretty absent for the most part), and as a result, he never developed or learned healthy ways of handling his emotions and stress. I really like this angle when it comes to his anger, as it's very realistic, and it highlights a part of sibling dynamics and psychology that isn't touched on in media (aside from Encanto).
I definitely agree here. He becomes more of a parent from a young age and has to suppress these emotions for the sake of his brothers. I agree on the realistic sibling dynamic as well. Thank you for your comment!
as the eldest sibling the sentence "acts less of a brother and more of a parental figure" OOF OUCH OOF MY FEELINGS/pos LOL this was so good and well made honestly i was just happy youtube recommended me a raph analysis video and this was just good
Awww thank you so much! I’m glad you enjoyed it! I myself am a middle child, but my older sister has told me about feeling like this before… so I thought it was important to point out.
Have to say it's so rare to see a Rise Raph analysis, not to mention it's so well done! I am not ashamed to say that Rise Raph (and Donnie) have to be my most beloved character of the entirety of the TMMT, he is just, so relatable man ;-; *Insert Surface pressur (I genuinely can imagine Raph giving Splinter parenting classes)
Surface pressure is literally what I was thinking the entire time I was writing this script. I was just like lol Raph’s just like Luisa for real and thank you for the comment! I really appreciate it!
Raph was the sole reason I watched Rise in the first place. Which is ironic since I HATED him in the previous adaptions. He suffers too much just to protect his family…and his brothers tend to not realize that. And I just learned about the scrapes episode between him and Mikey’s friendship and hurt that “they’re not they close” when the series shows them close. There are times where I want to see Raph just leave true family (not forever though). He needs more friends, not just April and Buddy (Franken-Foot). “No matter how much I cover for you guys, I will always be beneath you.”
I really like your points here. Honestly the feeling like they’re not close with their younger sibling is a feeling that older siblings can typically get. Personally, I know that my sister feels that way about me and my brother so I’m kinda sad that that got scrapped.
I was surprised when they made Raph the oldest in Rise but I came to love his character. I found myself relating so much to him and I hate that the show is delayed and/or cancelled. ❤
Honestly, people saying his character is so different then in the previous versions. That's just not correct. He had also been crazy scared of things in all previous versions. Always cared about his brothers and was actually pretty sensitive because most of his frustration was with himself. It was Leo being the leader which allowed him to walk away angry. Which he otherwise wouldn't do. And that is basically the Raph we have right now with Rise. One of my favorit scence of all TMNT so far is when they are all caught by an agent and put on stretchers in the 2003 version. It's not easy to see but when that guy tries to slice up Mickey, Raph is so out of it that he doesn't even realise he was saved by Splinter. He closed his eyes so hard and couldn't even look at it. And Splinter had to actively tell him Raph its okay. For him to realise that he was saved. Dude had always been a softie. Just harder to see.
That’s completely fair! In this version of him, though, I think it’s easier to see which makes people think it’s different when it’s not necessarily different… it’s just shown differently! Thank you for your comment!
Rise!Raph is honestly the Raph I saw in every previous version of the show. Yes, he wasn't the leader then and he was the "angry" one but that was because he doesn't have the best control on his emotions.
That’s honestly how I’ve seen them, but a lot of the times he got labeled with that. This version I feel was just a different take on the same subject! Thank you for your comment!
Viper i admire how utterly emotional and heartfelt these analysis are. It not only gives me a logical sense but also an empathic sense of Raph’s state of being. I am Raphael and these are MY responsibilities, putting us viewers into a fictional character’s shoes like that is, in my opinion, so much more impactful than observing that character externally. Thank you for your work, and I will continue to cry to your videos :)
😭 omg thank you so much. Your comment really means a lot to me and I’m glad I’m able to help you understand these characters. Thank you so so much for this comment, it really made my day 💕🫶
I always saw him as the stubborn, emotional, rebellious one. It’s interesting to see how the leadership swap with Leon also seems to have swapped some of their personality traits too
Extremely good point here! I’m just glad that Leo got the chance to not be the leader at first for once… although it does make me sad that that ultimately means someone else had to take that role either way 🤷🏻♀️
I never realized that there was a reason why Raph would talk in the third person and it fascinating to think that it’s to take the blame on himself and I think he still has the temper as he does snap at his brothers sometimes like during the tree scene or the pizza puffs episode but given his size if he did express that anger his younger (and much smaller) brothers would get hurt from it so he suppresses it giving him something more to weigh him down.
Oh! He definitely still has a temper but I’m glad they were able to incorporate it without it being his “main flaw”. Thank you so much for your comment! I enjoyed your input!
If you ask me, this is probably one of the best versions of Rafael in the teenage mutant ninja turtles. I just like how they made him a good older brother.
I used to have panic attacks when I heard by little brother crying in the other room because I thought a monster was going to kill him when I wasn't around him. lol. Younger siblings.
Raph is still the angry one. But it's channelled very differently. He's definitely very different from past iterations, but he's still the "Cool but Crude" guy he always was. Much like Donnie, Rise Raph may be my favorite Iteration of the character.
I don’t think I said it very well, but I definitely agree with you here. He still gets angry, but it’s done in a different way where he’s not constantly just being rude. In this sense it’s more like his emotions get the best of him and he gets overwhelmed and frustrated. I definitely agree… raph is done very very well in this series
I'm really grateful for these character anaylsises, especially since I'm writing a raph + mikey centric fic atm. They've been super helpful with seeing different things in them that I hadn't noticed before!
Your analysis is amazing, your art is amazing, YOUR NARRATION IS AMAZING. Idk what to say. Everything about this video makes me happy and you deserve all the attention you get!
I love Raph to bits He is so much like me its not funny anymore guys I relate to both 12 and Rise version of him I get both the anger, the helplesness at the inability to communicate, the need to be alone in order to kot hurt anyone But I also get the pressure of having to be the parent to everyone, to getting worrylines by 18, taking and burying myself under all the problems in the world I get the want to be alone and being scared of it at the same time bc 'what if something happens to them and Im not there', 'what if they realise they dont need me anymore and Ill be left alone' And I love Raph bc after I found him I was finally given the perspective I needed to see how my actions affect others Even if he is just a silly, silly teenage mutant ninja turtle ^^ Also if anyone worries, I am going to therapy n am working through this stuff! So there is no need for comfort etc ^^ I really hope this comment dosent come off as super venty - Im slowly learning how to better communicate and rely on people close to me a bit more and life has been getting better bit by bit! Tysm for making this video! And ur art in the bc looks absolutely stunning Do u have any tips for more dynamic poses like this? Ive been trying to get into drawing em more but dont really know where to start =w=
Thank you so much for your comment! I’m glad to see that this video found you! Raph is definitely one of my favorite characters because I also deal with my emotions being overwhelming to the point where I don’t know what to do with them. Don’t worry! It’s good to get it out! I’m glad you left a comment and are getting help for it! As for the dynamic poses bit… hmm… well, it kind of depends on where you are in your art journey. The first thing I can really suggest is looking up references for them. If you see dynamic poses or draw the figure enough, it becomes easier to imagine it in different poses. My second suggestion is to use shapes. I.e. block out your pose before doing this. Honestly, a lot of it is trial and error for me. My third suggestion is drawing a ground plane. If you draw where you want them to stand, it makes it easier for you to put them in that space. Sorry if this doesn’t really help, I’m not the best at teaching stuff 😅 Thank your for your comment anyway! It really means a lot!
About that suggestion part, I think you should do voice overs and audio books in a video, they're many different fan fics of rottmnt you can read off of, I just think your voice is smooth and easy to listen to🥺
Awww; thank you! That means a lot to me! I’ll definitely keep that in consideration since I have always enjoyed doing voice acting stuff! Appreciate your comment!
I relate to Raph.. i get scared when im alone, im an oldest sibling/leader, im always worried for my little sister, im always stressed and overwhelemed and im the family jewel and so many other things...
Yeah, I always find family dynamics so interesting because I myself can never fully understand what someone in a different position might feel. I can think about it and analyze how they might feel, but I’m a middle child so I will never fully be the oldest. Which is so interesting to me because I get to read comments of people who are in a different situation than me and it makes me happy to hear different stories.
I have the same exact opinions on Raph. I feel connected with both Rise! Raph and 2012 Raph on a very spiritual level. And for the same reasons and completely different reasons. It’s really difficult for me to explain because I struggle to put my thoughts into words (it’s an actual condition I have and it sucks) but I really do agree with you on the way Raph is depicted in Rise. :)
oh this is fucking amazing! your line delivery REALLY packs a punch with your point!! i adore your analysis, im def going to show this to whoever i can!
I do like this version of Raph more. In too many iterations, Raph verged on a trouble-maker; a bully who wanted to be in charge and made life difficult for Leo, just because. What would happen if Raph really were Leader? Well, he wouldn't necesserily be a better leader, as we reguarly see Leo taking lead with strategies that rely on Raph doing exactly what he can be relied upon to do, but they would always have somebody to catch them when they fall. Most of the reason Raph has wound up a parental-figure, is thanks to Splinter being a Mid-Level Dad. It's the most obvious Family Issue in the show, because it affects all of them. It doesn't take much to see that the relationship between Leo and Donnie is a reflection of the relationship usually seen between Leo and Raph. Only this time it's not them contending for Splinter's approval, or vying for leadership. This time, they're contending for the validation they don't get from their father; now seeking it from Big Bro Raph. Leo with his Inferiority Complex will push buttons any way he can, so since he can't get at Raph or Mikey, he goes for Donnie, because Middle Brothers are allowed. This Passive-Aggressive Donnie ain't gonna put up with no crap, and retaliates with ideas like putting lasers in the roombas ("Smart Lair"). Leo is fine with this because more noise means more attention from Raph. Donnie is also fine with more attention from Raph. And that's how we wound up with the Disaster Twins. Raph sometimes says "I'm the oldest/I'm the strongest, that makes me the leader", or along the lines. Funny thing is, that's NOT a good reason to be leader, and I'm certain the writers knew it. Raph isn't in charge in Rise! because he's an amazing strategist or fighter. He's in charge because as Splinter spends more and more time in front of the TV, he's gradually become the closest thing to a father figure his bros have, and that's not something a 15 year old should be. I have a theory about Raph's chronic fear of being alone. While an easy option is PTSD from being lost in the sewers as a baby, and a possible trigger for the realisation, I also think that a 'slow burn' is a possibility. Raph spent SO much time looking after his brothers, that he simply can't bear to be NOT looking after somebody. Who is he, if not his brothers' guardian? What is he worth, if he can't keep them safe? His brothers are aware of what happens, but not the 'why'.
This is great. I really admire the ways you look at these brothers and I appreciate your input on Raph since I feel like he’s such an under-looked character in this series…
So I"m working on a speech project about Raph's leadership and I'm trying quite hard to find evidence and episode moments where he does show leadership and how it affects the people around him
Hm… well, let’s see. I have some examples but they may not be examples of GOOD leadership… if that makes sense? The first one I can think of is in paper tsunami when raph tries to lead them and ultimately fails with his plan… causing Leo to have to step up. Another example is in pizza puffs. The whole episode we see him having to baby his brothers in a sense, even after saying he wasn’t going to help them. They still depend on him. I feel like that’s the difficult thing about raph. He isn’t good at plans. He isn’t good at coming up with solutions to a problem that isn’t simply smashing… But his brothers still depend on him a great deal. He takes care of them. He’s the one who protects his younger brothers. Which is why leo eventually gets made leader. Raph had no choice in becoming leader. He was simply the oldest so everyone naturally ended up depending on him. In a scrapped ending of the movie, raph asks leo if he thinks raph ever wanted to be the leader. No. He had to be. Sorry if this doesn’t help too much? I’d say go looking in more important episodes and possible the movie for these moments. They can be hard to catch sometimes but it’s really worth giving a second glance.
it was a nice trip to self reflection town. U only can bottle up so much without breaking the bottle. Sometimes it is hard to just let the responsibility out of your hands. To trust someone the way they trust you.
Especially when you’re used to being the one who has to take that responsibility. You don’t want that to be put onto those you love. Thank you for your comment!
Lemme tell ya, i hated every single raph in the verse, but rise raph is so different from them, all raphs are great, but this raph is unique, his personality didn't change a lot but he is so protective and even when got the leadership, they didn't mention the word "leader" in the movie. At least rise raph doesn't treat mikey like a punching bag 😅, he focuses at being the big brother more than the leadership, to summarize everything, HE IS JUST AMAZING ❤
Hey, I wish the best for you and your YT channel, I assume it's a nice feeling when something you put effort into blows up. I hope I can feel that one day. P.S. The art is AMAZING 😍
AW! Thank you so much!! That really means a lot; I do have to say that it definitely feels nice. Especially when everyone is so supportive of it! Thank you so much for your comment! It really means a lot!
I loved how they didn't TAKE stuff away from Raph but more. changed it's focus. Raph's character to me has ALWAYS been an overprotective sensitive Big brother. Even in 03 when he was 'the hot head', i felt that a lot of his anger came from the stress of not feeling he was good enough to take care of his family- that overprotective streak rivalled but was very different to Leo's own protective tendencies. Plus, 03's Rise used to knit...KNIT! 12's Rise used to show his more vunerable side with Spike and Chompy, he couldn't really express himself to his brothers but he was always able to take comfort in his little buddies. In Rise, he still has that- just because it's more obvious doesn't make it NEW. I LOVE getting more of Raph's sensitive side but also that as the oldest without anyone to look to up/ aspire to be like, he gets the breathing space to be honest with it- even going as far as his cute pjs, letting his brother's see how Mrs Cuddles freaks him out, and openly having teddies- I honestly think it's glorious what they did with Rise's Raph and I just wish we had more seasons so his relationship with his brothers, in this dynamic, how him now being the 'biggest' brother gave HIM the responsability of leader, and how that stress of having to be the one with the plans and looking out for them 'because if I don't we could all end up dead'- and that is terrifying for him- it's something we see through every version of Raph- How much he fears losing his brothers. I also love how Raph's signature 'Attack first, ask questions later' is still there as well. He would rather go in and use brute strength to smash things LIKE A BOSS, rather than do the calm and logical approach....Gods I love Raph. and I REALLY love Rise's portrayal of him. I'm glad we got to see him like this- not a different Raph but more like the same Gem with a light shone through it at a slightly different angle - the Raph-prism if you will X3
Exactly! It’s still Raph’s aspects, but they take a little care into making it the same… yet different! I’m really glad they were able to give him a softness about him whilst still being a rock headed bozo
Honestly, being a TMNT fan the whole life and having read and seen every franchise media I got to say Rise Raph is not only heavily overlooked but is also one of the best iterations of this character along with 2012 and IDW(for the most part) ones. It makes me both mad and sad older fans like Raph not for his traits, but more for his brute role of the team. Like sure, Rise Raph is much more friendly and socially comfortable, but it's not something that was created just to make Raph an OC. 1987 Raph was this way too yet he's mostly universally loved for sassy comebacks and fourth wall breaks. Having sais and liking violence is cool, but I think we can agree we love Raph the most for his caring and protecting of his family. Even Michael Bay kinda understood that when Raph was spilling out how much he loves and cherishes his brothers. I hope he would be given some tools to play with his story arcs in the comics.
@@ashesGeek thank you so much for your comment! And yeah, I’ve always loved Raph ((even though I only started actually watching more or less recently)), but this raph made me care more than I realized about his character. Thank you for talking about older versions that I’m not familiar with as well!
@viperizer0 thank you. I know it's not much to make a video essay on it, but what do you think of Rise Shredder? Many fans mock him as disgrace while not caring about Oroku Saki as a character and want only to have one-note bloodthirsty guy in spiky gear.
@@ashesGeek I’m gonna be real here, I’d have to rewatch to give a fair opinion. It has been awhile since I’ve seen the show and my memory is not the greatest. However, from what I remember, I did not mind this version of shredder. I do not think they intended him to just be a bloodthirsty guy and nothing else. If I’m recalling correctly, there was a reason this happened and wasn’t necessarily fully Shredder’s fault? Like I said, I’d have to rewatch it ((oh no, rewatch one of my favorite cartoons ever? How will I survive 😱🍿)) to give a valid and researched opinion!
@@viperizer0 OK, but yeah, you got it right. Basically this was the purest version of Oroku Saki turned into a demonic beast. I wouldn't personally call him the best since so far 2012 show and IDW comics Shredders are my favorite, but he's definitely far from worst depictions. Like again, it's that stupid fanbase mindset of wanting nobody other than Shredder, and Krang thanks to 87 show as the main villian. Nevermind the fact that aside from Baron Draxum we had other major baddies like Lord Dregg, Mr.Null, Agent John Bishop, Dragon Lord and some more.
New subscriber here😁 I love this analysis and I also enjoyed the way they made the rottmnt, while my favorite ninja turtle in rise was Leo I feel connected with 2012 raph too👍
Thank you so much! And yes, they did Leo really well in rottmnt so I can definitely see that! I appreciate your comment and subscription! I hope you enjoy your stay!
Aw! Thank you so much!! I really appreciate it and I’m glad that my videos are affecting people! It makes me happy that you care enough so thank you so much for your support!
I'm personally not, but I have seen my sister suffer with this and have had talks with her about it as well... so I don't fully understand, but I have a rough idea of what they go through.
Gonna be real, I relate to 2012 Raph quite a bit. At least when I was younger… so I really do appreciate his character. However, I love Rise Raph as well!
@@viperizer0 one of my favorite 2012 Raph lines is the following: Donnie: "WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY FACE?!?!" Raph: Would you like the list alphabetically, or in descending order of grossness?" Also can't forget "Should've complained two hours ago!"
People who knew Raph to be an angry one, in the TMNT comics, he was extremely violent, and loved killing, including the foot clan. The turtles were trained to kill Shredder and unlike Leo, Donny and Mikey who had duty to kill if necessary, Raph in the other hand loves killing and is extremely brutal. I can see comic Raph just brutally killing foot clan members but I can’t say for Rise Raph at all.
@@nishchayjain1121 hmmm. I’m not going to lie, I haven’t read the comic, but I don’t think Rise raph would kill unless truly necessary. I think personality is interesting because I guess that can prove that you can have a similar personality yet different ideals from a person.
@@nishchayjain1121I wouldn't say Mirage comics Raph liked killing people. Sure, he liked to take off his steam beating some thugs, but he was never bloodthirsty and would even often stop Leo from doing something like that.
In my personal opinion I don’t think rise! Raph is really all that different he simply knows how to control his anger. Let me explain. In most versions raph isn’t just angry all the time. He has very deep connections to his family and friends and will stop at nothing to keep them safe. When giving raph better control of his anger, like in rise, those traits are free to shine and become much more prominent
That is definitely a good point! Being in an environment that allows you to be more in control of yourself… that will change the way others see you, honestly.
!LONG @SS TEXT! (Because my tmnt phase has come back and I love rottmnt 💀✋🏿) I always wonder why raph has so many personalities som people say it’s something traumatic happened to him in the past or it’s just for the jokes even one said it’s d.I.d (different personalities disorder) I just wanted to hear your input on it I could be the stress that makes the personalities for different situations idk myself but what do you think about it? Like when he is alone he turns to Savage raph which I don’t think is normal for a person to be paranoid and fighting just because you’re scared yes almost eating your enemies starting a fire in the sewers and attacking your brothers it’s not really that normal 😅 (but I loved your mikey vid and I love this one to your very good at analysing the characters 💅🏿)
Hm. Well, in certain situations and certain lifestyles… there are ppl who use this as either a coping mechanism or have it come in as a side affect as trauma. So I could definitely see the traumatic thing happening! Having to take on the leadership old as such a young age could have divided his mind into different states as well. It could be him simply separating himself to “share” the burden with someone. If that makes sense? I think it’s a way to separate his leadership self from different sides of him so that they don’t intervene perhaps? That’s just a short look at it… thank you so much for your comment! And same, I am obsessed with rottmnt lol.
@@viperizer0 No problem I like your input on it 👍🏿 I’m excited for your future vids (I usually don’t say this but you are hell of underrated 💀 so new subscriber 😌✌🏿)
There was a scrapped episode all about Mikey and Ralph’s relationship as they grew up. Implying that, as little kids, they were extremely close, but as they grew up, it distanced. I imagine it was Raphs overprotectiveness that pushed Mikey away.
Aw; that makes me sad since it’s a duo we don’t get to see much of. And that would definitely make sense!
Thank you for your comment!
Also there was another scraped Mikey and Raph episode where they pretended to be villains and crashed ghostbear's wedding
@@queenidragon4489 I saw that one. Was devastated about it 😭
Also don't forget about the scrapped one where everyone but Mikey is deaged so he has to be their big brother and take care of them for once (I am upset that many things got scrapped, but this is one of the most painful, no I will not shut up about it 😫)
@@starling1773 that one makes me upset too. Like. Ugh.
I'm not ashamed to say that Rise Raph is maybe my favorite iteration of his character (along with Rise Donnie). I love how he's still that sometimes hot-headed and fight-loving character, but this time he's also big loveable meat-head with a heart of gold. His care and need for his family has an incredible duality to it, to the extent where it can be both his strength (teamwork in fighting) and his weakness (Raph alone). Unlike the previous version, this one really shows that he cares, and has more of a reason for his moments of frustration and hot-headedness without the excuse of it being his "personality" (not that that's entirely what the previous versions were, either). It's kind of refreshing to see a character of his type portrayed with an expression of caring that feels more genuine and direct and doesn't always rely on sarcastic quips or passive-aggressive remarks for the majority of his screen time.
I definitely agree here. Before watching any tmnt, I always knew raph as the “angry one”… that was just what I saw from him and how he was painted. It was nice to see them take it in a different perspective. Thank you so much for your comment!
@@viperizer0 of course!
The amount of love I have for this man, especially the Rise!version whose trying to save his idiots, is unhealthy. Thank you so much for this beautiful representation of him.
Of course! I love him as well. “Trying to save his idiots” - I absolutely love this lmao. Thank you so much for your comment! It really means a lot to me!
These incarnations of the turtle feel more like brothers and family to me. I feel horrible to have ignored this show when it needed it most, I will never do such a thing ever again. Being close minded never helps. Also Raph is my favorite
I myself didn’t even really know it existed until recently. I am absolutely devastated that we may never get more. However, I am staying hopeful because that movie was fire. If that’s how it has to end, it was a heck of a way to go out.
@@viperizer0 I agree also did Leo's and Raph's character arcs very well.
I think an argument can be made that Rise!Raph bears most of the effects of parentification. I have to assume that he basically acted as a parent to his brothers all throughout his life (since Splinter in the show was pretty absent for the most part), and as a result, he never developed or learned healthy ways of handling his emotions and stress. I really like this angle when it comes to his anger, as it's very realistic, and it highlights a part of sibling dynamics and psychology that isn't touched on in media (aside from Encanto).
I definitely agree here. He becomes more of a parent from a young age and has to suppress these emotions for the sake of his brothers. I agree on the realistic sibling dynamic as well. Thank you for your comment!
As a Raph kinnie I am honestly feeling so attacked right now-
😅 we tend to kin those we relate to tbh
I wanna hug Rise Raph. He looks like he gives great hugs
I would love a hug from him 🥺
as the eldest sibling the sentence "acts less of a brother and more of a parental figure" OOF OUCH OOF MY FEELINGS/pos LOL this was so good and well made honestly i was just happy youtube recommended me a raph analysis video and this was just good
Awww thank you so much! I’m glad you enjoyed it! I myself am a middle child, but my older sister has told me about feeling like this before… so I thought it was important to point out.
Have to say it's so rare to see a Rise Raph analysis, not to mention it's so well done! I am not ashamed to say that Rise Raph (and Donnie) have to be my most beloved character of the entirety of the TMMT, he is just, so relatable man ;-;
*Insert Surface pressur
(I genuinely can imagine Raph giving Splinter parenting classes)
Surface pressure is literally what I was thinking the entire time I was writing this script. I was just like lol Raph’s just like Luisa for real and thank you for the comment! I really appreciate it!
@@viperizer0 gotta love good big sibling representation in media 😔
Also your good mate 👍 it'd well deserved
@@viperizer0 her name is luisa not louis
@@sueblue2464 mb! It’s been awhile since I watched it and I get names mixed up sometimes! Thank you for your correction!
Raph was the sole reason I watched Rise in the first place. Which is ironic since I HATED him in the previous adaptions. He suffers too much just to protect his family…and his brothers tend to not realize that. And I just learned about the scrapes episode between him and Mikey’s friendship and hurt that “they’re not they close” when the series shows them close. There are times where I want to see Raph just leave true family (not forever though). He needs more friends, not just April and Buddy (Franken-Foot).
“No matter how much I cover for you guys, I will always be beneath you.”
I really like your points here. Honestly the feeling like they’re not close with their younger sibling is a feeling that older siblings can typically get. Personally, I know that my sister feels that way about me and my brother so I’m kinda sad that that got scrapped.
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Finally someone did a analysis on Raph, thank you 🙏🏻
Ofc! Thank you for your comment!!
This is a great analysis on Raph.
Thank you! That really means a lot!
I was surprised when they made Raph the oldest in Rise but I came to love his character. I found myself relating so much to him and I hate that the show is delayed and/or cancelled. ❤
I really like raph as well. And I will forever be sad about the show being delayed or cancelled
Honestly, people saying his character is so different then in the previous versions. That's just not correct. He had also been crazy scared of things in all previous versions. Always cared about his brothers and was actually pretty sensitive because most of his frustration was with himself. It was Leo being the leader which allowed him to walk away angry. Which he otherwise wouldn't do. And that is basically the Raph we have right now with Rise. One of my favorit scence of all TMNT so far is when they are all caught by an agent and put on stretchers in the 2003 version. It's not easy to see but when that guy tries to slice up Mickey, Raph is so out of it that he doesn't even realise he was saved by Splinter. He closed his eyes so hard and couldn't even look at it. And Splinter had to actively tell him Raph its okay. For him to realise that he was saved. Dude had always been a softie. Just harder to see.
That’s completely fair! In this version of him, though, I think it’s easier to see which makes people think it’s different when it’s not necessarily different… it’s just shown differently! Thank you for your comment!
Rise!Raph is honestly the Raph I saw in every previous version of the show. Yes, he wasn't the leader then and he was the "angry" one but that was because he doesn't have the best control on his emotions.
That’s honestly how I’ve seen them, but a lot of the times he got labeled with that. This version I feel was just a different take on the same subject! Thank you for your comment!
Viper i admire how utterly emotional and heartfelt these analysis are. It not only gives me a logical sense but also an empathic sense of Raph’s state of being. I am Raphael and these are MY responsibilities, putting us viewers into a fictional character’s shoes like that is, in my opinion, so much more impactful than observing that character externally. Thank you for your work, and I will continue to cry to your videos :)
😭 omg thank you so much. Your comment really means a lot to me and I’m glad I’m able to help you understand these characters. Thank you so so much for this comment, it really made my day 💕🫶
I LOVE RALPH SO MUCH THE STUFF I WOULD DO TO HAVE AN OLDER BROTHER LIKE HIM
😭😭😭 frfr
I always saw him as the stubborn, emotional, rebellious one. It’s interesting to see how the leadership swap with Leon also seems to have swapped some of their personality traits too
Extremely good point here! I’m just glad that Leo got the chance to not be the leader at first for once… although it does make me sad that that ultimately means someone else had to take that role either way 🤷🏻♀️
I never realized that there was a reason why Raph would talk in the third person and it fascinating to think that it’s to take the blame on himself and I think he still has the temper as he does snap at his brothers sometimes like during the tree scene or the pizza puffs episode but given his size if he did express that anger his younger (and much smaller) brothers would get hurt from it so he suppresses it giving him something more to weigh him down.
Oh! He definitely still has a temper but I’m glad they were able to incorporate it without it being his “main flaw”. Thank you so much for your comment! I enjoyed your input!
If you ask me, this is probably one of the best versions of Rafael in the teenage mutant ninja turtles. I just like how they made him a good older brother.
I love the direction of this Rafael as well! Glad they let him be the oldest
OH THANK GOD, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH RAPH CONTENT OUT THERE THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH????
@@Bagels_and_CreamCheese Of course!! Thank you for commenting about it, I really appreciate it! 😭💕
I used to have panic attacks when I heard by little brother crying in the other room because I thought a monster was going to kill him when I wasn't around him. lol. Younger siblings.
Aww. That’s not good; being an older sibling can really bring a lot of fear into your life
Raph is still the angry one. But it's channelled very differently. He's definitely very different from past iterations, but he's still the "Cool but Crude" guy he always was. Much like Donnie, Rise Raph may be my favorite Iteration of the character.
I don’t think I said it very well, but I definitely agree with you here. He still gets angry, but it’s done in a different way where he’s not constantly just being rude. In this sense it’s more like his emotions get the best of him and he gets overwhelmed and frustrated. I definitely agree… raph is done very very well in this series
I'm really grateful for these character anaylsises, especially since I'm writing a raph + mikey centric fic atm. They've been super helpful with seeing different things in them that I hadn't noticed before!
Aw thank you so much! I really appreciate that and am glad to have helped!
Your analysis is amazing, your art is amazing, YOUR NARRATION IS AMAZING. Idk what to say. Everything about this video makes me happy and you deserve all the attention you get!
AWW Thank you so much!! This seriously means a lot to me! This was so nice of you to say! I really appreciate it; thank you for your comment!
I love Raph to bits
He is so much like me its not funny anymore guys
I relate to both 12 and Rise version of him
I get both the anger, the helplesness at the inability to communicate, the need to be alone in order to kot hurt anyone
But I also get the pressure of having to be the parent to everyone, to getting worrylines by 18, taking and burying myself under all the problems in the world
I get the want to be alone and being scared of it at the same time bc 'what if something happens to them and Im not there', 'what if they realise they dont need me anymore and Ill be left alone'
And I love Raph bc after I found him I was finally given the perspective I needed to see how my actions affect others
Even if he is just a silly, silly teenage mutant ninja turtle ^^
Also if anyone worries, I am going to therapy n am working through this stuff! So there is no need for comfort etc ^^
I really hope this comment dosent come off as super venty -
Im slowly learning how to better communicate and rely on people close to me a bit more and life has been getting better bit by bit!
Tysm for making this video!
And ur art in the bc looks absolutely stunning
Do u have any tips for more dynamic poses like this? Ive been trying to get into drawing em more but dont really know where to start =w=
Also I would absolutely strangle him and shake him like a ragdoll if he was my brother n just decided to do a trust fall like he did in the finale
Thank you so much for your comment! I’m glad to see that this video found you!
Raph is definitely one of my favorite characters because I also deal with my emotions being overwhelming to the point where I don’t know what to do with them.
Don’t worry! It’s good to get it out! I’m glad you left a comment and are getting help for it!
As for the dynamic poses bit… hmm… well, it kind of depends on where you are in your art journey. The first thing I can really suggest is looking up references for them. If you see dynamic poses or draw the figure enough, it becomes easier to imagine it in different poses.
My second suggestion is to use shapes. I.e. block out your pose before doing this. Honestly, a lot of it is trial and error for me.
My third suggestion is drawing a ground plane. If you draw where you want them to stand, it makes it easier for you to put them in that space. Sorry if this doesn’t really help, I’m not the best at teaching stuff 😅
Thank your for your comment anyway! It really means a lot!
@@viperizer0 sorry for the late reply!
I tried out the tips uve sent n they worked like a charm ;D
Tysm✨💕
Aww! Of course! I’m so glad that they helped!!
This is the first time I've actually understood that scene.
I didn't get it at all before.
Thank you.
Of course! Thank you for your comment! I’m glad I was able to help!
About that suggestion part, I think you should do voice overs and audio books in a video, they're many different fan fics of rottmnt you can read off of, I just think your voice is smooth and easy to listen to🥺
Awww; thank you! That means a lot to me! I’ll definitely keep that in consideration since I have always enjoyed doing voice acting stuff! Appreciate your comment!
I relate to Raph.. i get scared when im alone, im an oldest sibling/leader, im always worried for my little sister, im always stressed and overwhelemed and im the family jewel and so many other things...
Yeah, I always find family dynamics so interesting because I myself can never fully understand what someone in a different position might feel. I can think about it and analyze how they might feel, but I’m a middle child so I will never fully be the oldest. Which is so interesting to me because I get to read comments of people who are in a different situation than me and it makes me happy to hear different stories.
I have the same exact opinions on Raph. I feel connected with both Rise! Raph and 2012 Raph on a very spiritual level. And for the same reasons and completely different reasons. It’s really difficult for me to explain because I struggle to put my thoughts into words (it’s an actual condition I have and it sucks) but I really do agree with you on the way Raph is depicted in Rise. :)
Aww! Well I’m glad you are able to connect with these characters! I hope you are able to continue to be represented by these characters!!
@@viperizer0 I hope so too because they are literally like my entire life line at the moment. ;w;
Omg Im not the only person who related to 2012 Raph!!
Yeah! I actually have some things to analyze or talk about for that, so I plan on making a video on it some day!
I'll be looking forward to that :)
oh this is fucking amazing! your line delivery REALLY packs a punch with your point!! i adore your analysis, im def going to show this to whoever i can!
Omg; thank you so much! That seriously means a lot to me! Like, I don’t even know how to express it so thank you so much for your comment 😭
I do like this version of Raph more. In too many iterations, Raph verged on a trouble-maker; a bully who wanted to be in charge and made life difficult for Leo, just because. What would happen if Raph really were Leader? Well, he wouldn't necesserily be a better leader, as we reguarly see Leo taking lead with strategies that rely on Raph doing exactly what he can be relied upon to do, but they would always have somebody to catch them when they fall. Most of the reason Raph has wound up a parental-figure, is thanks to Splinter being a Mid-Level Dad. It's the most obvious Family Issue in the show, because it affects all of them.
It doesn't take much to see that the relationship between Leo and Donnie is a reflection of the relationship usually seen between Leo and Raph. Only this time it's not them contending for Splinter's approval, or vying for leadership. This time, they're contending for the validation they don't get from their father; now seeking it from Big Bro Raph. Leo with his Inferiority Complex will push buttons any way he can, so since he can't get at Raph or Mikey, he goes for Donnie, because Middle Brothers are allowed. This Passive-Aggressive Donnie ain't gonna put up with no crap, and retaliates with ideas like putting lasers in the roombas ("Smart Lair"). Leo is fine with this because more noise means more attention from Raph. Donnie is also fine with more attention from Raph. And that's how we wound up with the Disaster Twins.
Raph sometimes says "I'm the oldest/I'm the strongest, that makes me the leader", or along the lines. Funny thing is, that's NOT a good reason to be leader, and I'm certain the writers knew it. Raph isn't in charge in Rise! because he's an amazing strategist or fighter. He's in charge because as Splinter spends more and more time in front of the TV, he's gradually become the closest thing to a father figure his bros have, and that's not something a 15 year old should be.
I have a theory about Raph's chronic fear of being alone. While an easy option is PTSD from being lost in the sewers as a baby, and a possible trigger for the realisation, I also think that a 'slow burn' is a possibility. Raph spent SO much time looking after his brothers, that he simply can't bear to be NOT looking after somebody. Who is he, if not his brothers' guardian? What is he worth, if he can't keep them safe? His brothers are aware of what happens, but not the 'why'.
This is great. I really admire the ways you look at these brothers and I appreciate your input on Raph since I feel like he’s such an under-looked character in this series…
So I"m working on a speech project about Raph's leadership and I'm trying quite hard to find evidence and episode moments where he does show leadership and how it affects the people around him
Hm… well, let’s see. I have some examples but they may not be examples of GOOD leadership… if that makes sense?
The first one I can think of is in paper tsunami when raph tries to lead them and ultimately fails with his plan… causing Leo to have to step up.
Another example is in pizza puffs. The whole episode we see him having to baby his brothers in a sense, even after saying he wasn’t going to help them. They still depend on him.
I feel like that’s the difficult thing about raph. He isn’t good at plans. He isn’t good at coming up with solutions to a problem that isn’t simply smashing…
But his brothers still depend on him a great deal. He takes care of them. He’s the one who protects his younger brothers.
Which is why leo eventually gets made leader. Raph had no choice in becoming leader. He was simply the oldest so everyone naturally ended up depending on him.
In a scrapped ending of the movie, raph asks leo if he thinks raph ever wanted to be the leader.
No. He had to be.
Sorry if this doesn’t help too much?
I’d say go looking in more important episodes and possible the movie for these moments. They can be hard to catch sometimes but it’s really worth giving a second glance.
it was a nice trip to self reflection town. U only can bottle up so much without breaking the bottle. Sometimes it is hard to just let the responsibility out of your hands. To trust someone the way they trust you.
Especially when you’re used to being the one who has to take that responsibility. You don’t want that to be put onto those you love. Thank you for your comment!
I'm so happy I found you ! I love how you analyze the characters and everything
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Lemme tell ya, i hated every single raph in the verse, but rise raph is so different from them, all raphs are great, but this raph is unique, his personality didn't change a lot but he is so protective and even when got the leadership, they didn't mention the word "leader" in the movie. At least rise raph doesn't treat mikey like a punching bag 😅, he focuses at being the big brother more than the leadership, to summarize everything, HE IS JUST AMAZING ❤
Hey, I wish the best for you and your YT channel, I assume it's a nice feeling when something you put effort into blows up. I hope I can feel that one day.
P.S. The art is AMAZING 😍
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@@viperizer0 no problem
I loved how they didn't TAKE stuff away from Raph but more. changed it's focus.
Raph's character to me has ALWAYS been an overprotective sensitive Big brother. Even in 03 when he was 'the hot head', i felt that a lot of his anger came from the stress of not feeling he was good enough to take care of his family- that overprotective streak rivalled but was very different to Leo's own protective tendencies.
Plus, 03's Rise used to knit...KNIT! 12's Rise used to show his more vunerable side with Spike and Chompy, he couldn't really express himself to his brothers but he was always able to take comfort in his little buddies.
In Rise, he still has that- just because it's more obvious doesn't make it NEW. I LOVE getting more of Raph's sensitive side but also that as the oldest without anyone to look to up/ aspire to be like, he gets the breathing space to be honest with it- even going as far as his cute pjs, letting his brother's see how Mrs Cuddles freaks him out, and openly having teddies- I honestly think it's glorious what they did with Rise's Raph and I just wish we had more seasons so his relationship with his brothers, in this dynamic, how him now being the 'biggest' brother gave HIM the responsability of leader, and how that stress of having to be the one with the plans and looking out for them 'because if I don't we could all end up dead'- and that is terrifying for him- it's something we see through every version of Raph- How much he fears losing his brothers.
I also love how Raph's signature 'Attack first, ask questions later' is still there as well. He would rather go in and use brute strength to smash things LIKE A BOSS, rather than do the calm and logical approach....Gods I love Raph. and I REALLY love Rise's portrayal of him. I'm glad we got to see him like this- not a different Raph but more like the same Gem with a light shone through it at a slightly different angle - the Raph-prism if you will X3
Exactly! It’s still Raph’s aspects, but they take a little care into making it the same… yet different! I’m really glad they were able to give him a softness about him whilst still being a rock headed bozo
Honestly, being a TMNT fan the whole life and having read and seen every franchise media I got to say Rise Raph is not only heavily overlooked but is also one of the best iterations of this character along with 2012 and IDW(for the most part) ones.
It makes me both mad and sad older fans like Raph not for his traits, but more for his brute role of the team. Like sure, Rise Raph is much more friendly and socially comfortable, but it's not something that was created just to make Raph an OC. 1987 Raph was this way too yet he's mostly universally loved for sassy comebacks and fourth wall breaks.
Having sais and liking violence is cool, but I think we can agree we love Raph the most for his caring and protecting of his family.
Even Michael Bay kinda understood that when Raph was spilling out how much he loves and cherishes his brothers.
I hope he would be given some tools to play with his story arcs in the comics.
@@ashesGeek thank you so much for your comment! And yeah, I’ve always loved Raph ((even though I only started actually watching more or less recently)), but this raph made me care more than I realized about his character. Thank you for talking about older versions that I’m not familiar with as well!
@viperizer0 thank you. I know it's not much to make a video essay on it, but what do you think of Rise Shredder? Many fans mock him as disgrace while not caring about Oroku Saki as a character and want only to have one-note bloodthirsty guy in spiky gear.
@@ashesGeek I’m gonna be real here, I’d have to rewatch to give a fair opinion. It has been awhile since I’ve seen the show and my memory is not the greatest.
However, from what I remember, I did not mind this version of shredder. I do not think they intended him to just be a bloodthirsty guy and nothing else. If I’m recalling correctly, there was a reason this happened and wasn’t necessarily fully Shredder’s fault?
Like I said, I’d have to rewatch it ((oh no, rewatch one of my favorite cartoons ever? How will I survive 😱🍿)) to give a valid and researched opinion!
@@viperizer0 OK, but yeah, you got it right. Basically this was the purest version of Oroku Saki turned into a demonic beast. I wouldn't personally call him the best since so far 2012 show and IDW comics Shredders are my favorite, but he's definitely far from worst depictions.
Like again, it's that stupid fanbase mindset of wanting nobody other than Shredder, and Krang thanks to 87 show as the main villian. Nevermind the fact that aside from Baron Draxum we had other major baddies like Lord Dregg, Mr.Null, Agent John Bishop, Dragon Lord and some more.
You have such a pleasant voice
Awww thank you! I really appreciate that!
New subscriber here😁 I love this analysis and I also enjoyed the way they made the rottmnt, while my favorite ninja turtle in rise was Leo I feel connected with 2012 raph too👍
Thank you so much! And yes, they did Leo really well in rottmnt so I can definitely see that! I appreciate your comment and subscription! I hope you enjoy your stay!
Girl you make me cry every time 😭🤧😭😭😭
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@@viperizer0 Of course! I'm looking forward to your future videosss >♡
I’m the oldest so I know how it feels to be the oldest and protecting the family
I'm personally not, but I have seen my sister suffer with this and have had talks with her about it as well... so I don't fully understand, but I have a rough idea of what they go through.
As much as I miss the sass and savage of 2012 Raph, rise Raph is cool.
Gonna be real, I relate to 2012 Raph quite a bit. At least when I was younger… so I really do appreciate his character. However, I love Rise Raph as well!
@@viperizer0 one of my favorite 2012 Raph lines is the following:
Donnie: "WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY FACE?!?!"
Raph: Would you like the list alphabetically, or in descending order of grossness?"
Also can't forget "Should've complained two hours ago!"
@@bluestardragon7598 😭😭😭
Me when- me when- me- whe- 😭😭😭😭😭 AAAAAAAAaaaaaa.. he makes me so sad 😢 very lovely emotional words
🫶 aww thank you for your comment! And yes qwq he makes me sad as well-
I like your art
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Your amazing and have a good day
And I love you art
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RAPH ANALYSIS !!!
Haha indeed; thank you for your comment!
People who knew Raph to be an angry one, in the TMNT comics, he was extremely violent, and loved killing, including the foot clan. The turtles were trained to kill Shredder and unlike Leo, Donny and Mikey who had duty to kill if necessary, Raph in the other hand loves killing and is extremely brutal. I can see comic Raph just brutally killing foot clan members but I can’t say for Rise Raph at all.
Yeah... they're definitely different tone-wise. So I definitely can see how that can change the perspective.
@@viperizer0 well, if Rise Ralph’s personality is like Comic Raph?
@@nishchayjain1121 hmmm. I’m not going to lie, I haven’t read the comic, but I don’t think Rise raph would kill unless truly necessary. I think personality is interesting because I guess that can prove that you can have a similar personality yet different ideals from a person.
@@nishchayjain1121I wouldn't say Mirage comics Raph liked killing people. Sure, he liked to take off his steam beating some thugs, but he was never bloodthirsty and would even often stop Leo from doing something like that.
In my personal opinion I don’t think rise! Raph is really all that different he simply knows how to control his anger. Let me explain. In most versions raph isn’t just angry all the time. He has very deep connections to his family and friends and will stop at nothing to keep them safe. When giving raph better control of his anger, like in rise, those traits are free to shine and become much more prominent
That is definitely a good point! Being in an environment that allows you to be more in control of yourself… that will change the way others see you, honestly.
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I always wonder why raph has so many personalities som people say it’s something traumatic happened to him in the past or it’s just for the jokes even one said it’s d.I.d (different personalities disorder) I just wanted to hear your input on it I could be the stress that makes the personalities for different situations idk myself but what do you think about it? Like when he is alone he turns to Savage raph which I don’t think is normal for a person to be paranoid and fighting just because you’re scared yes almost eating your enemies starting a fire in the sewers and attacking your brothers it’s not really that normal 😅
(but I loved your mikey vid and I love this one to your very good at analysing the characters 💅🏿)
Hm. Well, in certain situations and certain lifestyles… there are ppl who use this as either a coping mechanism or have it come in as a side affect as trauma. So I could definitely see the traumatic thing happening! Having to take on the leadership old as such a young age could have divided his mind into different states as well. It could be him simply separating himself to “share” the burden with someone. If that makes sense? I think it’s a way to separate his leadership self from different sides of him so that they don’t intervene perhaps?
That’s just a short look at it… thank you so much for your comment! And same, I am obsessed with rottmnt lol.
@@viperizer0 No problem I like your input on it 👍🏿 I’m excited for your future vids (I usually don’t say this but you are hell of underrated 💀 so new subscriber 😌✌🏿)
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