Making PETEBLOX Bridgeport Riser Blocks TIPS
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Very interesting Lyle. Have just had a read of the patent, the other hole is so that the clamp which has a location pin, fits into the stack to stop the stack moving under heavy loads for example in a punching press.
Thank you for that
I just posted a reply asking what these holes were for, I guess is should have read the replies first!
What might be a more universal approach would be to put a hole in the bottom plate, and then put a corresponding dimple in all the others. That way the stack is locked together when under load, but when unloaded, they simply act like convenient detents. No pins needed, and the stack naturally stays straight in handling and storage.
That's assuming the plates are thin enough to flex over the distance between the pivot and the dimples (or that there's flex allowed by a spring washer or something).
@@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC It you had a huge amount of time on your hands....I dunno... working in the prison machine shop in 1933, you could put ball bearing detents in every plate.
You do realize that the dimples I described could be pressed with no more time or tool operations than the original design required, right? Even making them by hand would be trivial -- arguably less tedious than any alternatives that create more cut edges that need to be deburred.
About 6 years ago I replaced all of my cloth fabric vertical blinds with vinyl vanes. Each of the cloth fabric vanes had a 1/8th inch thick steel plate sewn into the bottom for a weight. I couldn't throw all that steel away so I took a razor blade and cut each one out leaving me with a box of these small steel plate weights. Now I can make a set of these PeteBlox and say to my LadyFriend, "See I told you I'd find a use for them." She has been on me for years to throw them away!
That is funny. I remember we had a set of blinds like that. But I threw everything away
Great build MrPete ! Back in the 70's I worked in a factory on 3rd shift, my job had me right across from our machine shop, that time of night there weren't any employes in the machine shop. And it was right next to our press room where we did a lot of metal stamping, the press dies were clamped to the bed of the press usually with the morton style clamps and morton step blocks, there were die setter carts full of clamps and step blocks. Many of the blocks had been pulled apart over time due to wear or neglect. I decided to repair many of them for my own use by using a bolt such as you did, only I tapered the head, then drilled and tapped a hole in the other end and used a slightly smaller bolt with a tapered head for the other side and threaded them together and locked them with thread locker. I also slotted the heads of both bolts to ease assembly , I did all this in the company machine shop on my lunch and break time. Thank you for your time and bringing back memories.
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Sir, I found to you through some of your disciples on TH-cam who mentioned your name with praise. I see what they mean now. You are a clearly a master of machining, and a true teacher. What an inspiration! Long may you beat your horses ;)
Thank you very much
I like those blocks. Beats scrounging up washers and scrap steel to stack when all your riser blocks are in use.
Aloha Mr. Pete I made some of these years ago and have found them invaluable on the welding table. Keep active don' give up, I'm 80 and I am finishing up a splitting track / sled for splitting my tractor for a new clutch, I follow the "use it or loose it" line of thought. I look forward to your new releases and have learned a few things from you youngsters😄
I agree with you. Keep active.
A good useful product for people to make. Your video's have a nice pace to them. They are relaxing, funny and have great general shop tips in them. I love your shirt keep calm and let the machinist handle it. That is a good picture, I want one!!!
Thank you, I am glad you like my style. That shirt was made up by my daughter at a T-shirt shop
I am self employed, also a youtube content creator. I get up at 4am, watch a few videos, drink some coffee, and as soon as the sun comes up i get to work in the shop. I enjoy watching your videos while waiting for the sun to come up. The blocks are very cool, nice work sir
Thank you very much, I’m drinking coffee myself right now
I'm supposed to be retired,,,,,but I keep getting people calling me to make ot fix things and I do the same as you. ,,,, Out to the shop after a Mr; Pete vid. ,,,, just never worked so hard since I retired (If I live I'll be 74 day after Christmas)
Very nice job Lyle. A person can learn a lot from you. Good old school stuff. Thanks for the videos.
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Great video. We are always learning something new. Deburring tumblers are great time savers, and time is money in a for profit shop! An old concrete mixer can make a great deburring tumbler. Thanks for the edutainment.
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I thought the center hole was to pass a clamp bolt through the stack to keep the whole thing stable if you were doing heavy work. That's how I used them anyway. Keep 'em coming Mr. Pete!
I think you are right
You have shown me another thing I need for my shop, unfortunately I am still working full time and have so many other projects, I just don't have time to make these. However on Ebay I got a set made in W. Germany , so I got something I need with a bit of history. I look forward to my soon retirement when I can make some of the projects in your video's. Please keep up the good work
Thank you, keep watching
Nice project Mr. Pete, love the attention to detail as always.
Another great video! You sound like your feeling good, nice to hear you so excited about
your projects. What a great oil can you have on your mill! Thanks for sharing your wisdom.
Thanks Jerry, it works quite well
@@mrpete222 What came in that can before you added the flared copper tube for the brush? It looks like it has a larger diameter than an empty PVC cement can would have.
I worked at factory that used a cement mixer as a tumbler worked great , VERY loud though. This gives you a reason to go to a farm Auction. They had it outside the building.
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This is a practical project Pete, and your attention to details makes it what we so love about your edutainment
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Another interesting Project Me Pete. I would of been too lasy to cut all those plates to length on the band saw, I think I would of kept them longer and made a longer bottom thick plate.
After viewing this video as part of my morning youtube fix I proceeded to my shop to see what I could get into. Started by disassembling an electric motor I was scrapping out. When I saw the laminated inserts that fit in the stator windings a light went on. I could mill of excess material and end up with a 1-1/2" x 1-1/2" x 6-1/4" stack of laminations. Did so on one of the sets of laminations then removed the screws holding the laminations together. To my surprise these laminations had two dimples in them thus indexing them together. Now to make two base plates and bolt them together to make two Petebloxs. And I have 3 more laminations to perform the same procedure on. Thanks for this great idea.
Sounds like a good idea. I always remember the laminations or difficult to drill and machine, is that right?
@@mrpete222 These laminations milled quite easily with a 1/2" carbide end mill. Will try cutting the next one with my Portaband to reduce milling time.
Another pfine addition to Prolific Peterson's Pedagogy Pfilms. I LOVE IT!!!!
Well done Mr. Pete. Well done. I hope to finish the pfloat lock this month! Then on to another Pfabulous Project from Mr. Prolific Peterson!!!
Thank you, you made me chuckle. Those are some good title ideas
Mr Pete those Peteblocks came out great I think I'll make a pair thanks again
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Nice bloxs, I love the thin head bolt idea. Thanks you for sharing Lyle.
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Another great project for the viewer to work on in the home shop, Tubalcain.
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Another great job and interesting video. Thank you Mr. Peterson.
Made in Canada 🇨🇦 🇨🇦 🇨🇦 yes. Great project.
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We very seldom see products marked made in Canada. I mean virtually never
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I bought Kiwifruit in the produce section once with a sticker proclaiming 'Product of New Zealand' .
Another shy country.
great project! ill defiantly be making a couple sets. fantastic way to use scrap and to make a great adjustable block for more than just work on the bridgeport.
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Thanks Mr. Pete. Have always enjoyed your videos.
I have a Morton block. Handy little item. Great video
Thanks for another good video ! If you didn't want the loctite you could use a short grub screw from the other side, in the bottom piece
That's a cool project. I thought you were going to use a flat head cap screw but I like the modified bolt better.
For lathe stock I use almost exclusively grade 8 bolts. They cut just fine with standard HSS tools.
My first job in a machine shop...hours and hours of deburring then adding grain to the flat surfaces of aluminum with Scotch-Brite. I did come back after lunch.
You had lots of endurance and perseverance
Now I don't want you to get mad at me Mr. Pete but I have to tell you.
You and This Old Tony are my favorite channels to watch.
Both informative and funny at times also.
I feel I'm in the same room and learning.
Thanks.
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@@mrpete222 Your quite welcome.
Looking forward to the second version. Thanks, Mr. Pete! :-)
Sir, i don't know it was a commercial product once before, where i live, people will use those angle iron with a lot of holes (is it call Unimax?) to build made shift shelf. At the very corner of the shelf tou have to attach a triangle piece for line up the 90degree and reforcement. Those triangle piece are stamp out from hugh sheets and therefore dirt cheap, about 30cents per piece in terms of USD. We just stack it up one corner hole by screw and use it.
Or, in this video, you also show us a screw type machinists jack. We use those screws to hold glasses for shop sign. Those brass screw with nicole coating to do the job. (monkeys loves shinny😄) Usually with a piece of sand paper glue on top and bottom to avoid slipping. It will work because the milling machine we use is so small that it doesn't crush that brass screw.
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Speaking of bicycle cards,,,,,that is what our millwrights used to call them. - A deck of cards. - You use them as an adjustable fulcrum under a 60" bar. Lift a 1/4", push a wedge under the machine you are moving, flip in another "card" lift another 1/4and so on until you can get a toe jack under. - Really beats the heck out of looking for varying sizes of shims to use when you are stuck behind a greasy old punch press!
So there are lots of uses for the PeteBloc in other trades from Ironworkers to electricians. There are great things even off the Bridgeport,.
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Those conical spring plates called Belleville springs are quite common and widely used in Europe. They are mandatory in many electrical appliances and they are sold in well equipped screw stores.
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Nice Pete Blocks Mr. Pete! It would be great to see a video of you making the screw blocks!!! Those look good. 🏆✨🎯
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Great video Lyle. I've never seen those before. Thanks for sharing
Great work. Nice peteblox. Great to have for shop. Thank you for sharing
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Great project & keep the videos coming. You need to stay active & we need your videos. Many thanks
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Looks like next weekends’ project ! I have a few dozen 1/8”x2”x 10’ cold rolled bars. Gotta use em for something
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Now that was an interesting Saturday morning background task in-filler. Oh aye we know all about it - but we don't - when someone does it differently, it opens the mind to other ideas - thankyou. How about WOODEN or plastic waste sheets for similar jobs in their own departments - better than the single blocks / strips we've been using and always go missing - Pin them together - great idea - Thanks Mr Pete!
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Awesome build fellow tinkerer, Is there enough room in the base plate for a counter bore to allow for a spring washer?
Simple but effective solution.
ITs great to make the tools that make tools , Thank you Mr Pete
Yes, never thought about that way
good project....I built these years ago in aluminum after watch Tom Techniques channel.....they are a SUPER HANDY shop tool addition and a fun build....I use my set all of the time
Thank you, I will look up that video. Again, sorry to hear about your son. I’m still grieving over my brother
What a great idea Mr. Pete!! Thanks for showing us how...
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Thank you for the video! I laughed so hard about 'They wouldn't come back after lunch"! My first job after getting out of the Air Force was in a factory that made steel truck wheels.. My first job there was as a 'Grinder'... I had to use a side grinder to grind out all the welds that had porosity so they could be re-welded. My first day I was told that about half the new hires never came back the next day. I came back but it was a gruesome job that I did for a few months before I was promoted to a bit better job.... Thanks for the laugh!!!
Thanks, I think you were the only one to actually get the humor.
Thanks so much , know what I'll be doing in my shop today, those blocks will save lots of time hunting for right height blocks for support, ,
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The United States Printing Company constantly made a great many playing card designs to reflect popular trends, events, and fashion. In 1885, seeing the massive popularity of the bicycle in society they decided to make a deck with bicycles at the core of the design. Other designs continued, and new designs came and went, but the bicycle design had lasting appeal, and continued being made right up to today.
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Brilliant and original as always.
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I would really like to see you do a video on the screw blocks
You may eventually, if I can find the material to make them
Another brilliant episode. Thank you for posting
Lyle, a couple of things I would have done: Make a double block (1.5" X 4"), put a hole (bolt) on each end, and then separate with one saw cut. No waste and half the work. the other thing I do to round a hex head bolt: chuck the bolt in your electric drill, and spin it against your angle grinder with a flap wheel (or stationary grinder.) No problem with grade 8, flap wheels eat them right up. Thanks for sharing your knowledge, you are a great resource. I live about 5 miles from the hammer factory, and have pretty much one of everything they make. Great tools!
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Great project. I know accuracy isn't critical here but the flat stock from the hardware store isn't flat enough for a nice job. Philadelphia area residents should make a trip to Fazzios in South Jersey :)
I like it you spot drill every thing . I do it on every job I get.
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First thought was meh but one advantage overlooked is the larger base size would straddle the 11/16" t-slots at an angle better than my chinesium step blocks which always want to tip into the slots.
Thank you Great Guru
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THANK YOU...for sharing. Watched and very much enjoyed. Nice project.
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The clamps are forged from Maple syrup and apologies lol
Canada is the best compromise of all places on earth any way you look at it. not that im biased or anything, lol but for real, check it out.
Wonderful project and idea. I'll put that to good use :)
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Very familiar with belleville washers. We used them in the tool and die industry to back up floating core pins so a die would close and squeeze the core shutoff to assure no flash. This was in zinc diecasting.
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Pete's making phat stax.
Mr Pete I don’t care what everyone says you are the best thanks
Thank you very much
As an alternative to the loctite, you could drill a small hole through the edge of the base block, and straight through the bolt, and drive in a roll pin.
That is how we did it at the high school
The Petebox look great! Very useful project!
You could certainly use the second hole to secure the stack to the table using a bolt and a tee nut.
Very nice project thanks mr peet
Well Mr Pete recites a little Gene Autry for us. Nice!
Enjoyed the build...great project. All that deburring would have sent me to the nut house.
I was thinking hardened dowel pins might work leaving a press fit on the two end plates...a little experimenting may be required getting the tension right. Enjoyed as always !!
Nice project. I save most all my scrap pieces, they always seem to be what I need on a project.
Another great video! Around 8:40 in - there is a bottle of "Jerry Wilson Cutting Fluid" beside the vise. The can appears home made, with an acid core brush in it. Can you point me to which Mr Pete video has the construction of the oil can as well as the mystery cutting fluid inside? (Side Note: Dollar General sells a plastic car cigarette ash tray that makes a great machinist oil holder- the top is funnel shaped.)
People used to put playing cards and other paper in the spokes of a pedal bike. Bicycle cards most likely came from that
You bet I know what a Belleville washer is, they also use a very large version of the Belleville design as a clutch pressure plate spring in place of a group of coil springs in an automotive clutch.
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Re: Bicycle playing cards. The name Bicycle was chosen to reflect the popularity of the bicycle at the end of the 19th century. I guess it's like when I was a kid in the early Eighties....every second advertisement for anything electronic had a computer screen with a green graph behind it. It made your product look futuristic.
2:59 - These are what I use pretty much exclusively. Easy to set up, easy to break down.
8:10 - When I need to stack-drill many parts like that... I insert a piece of cardboard on ONE side... then tighten down. The cardboard crushes down tightest on the widest part... but the others still have significant holding force so they don't wiggle. Thoughts?
14:16 - Of course I do! (We called them a "disc spring" If you alternate them you get a heavy spring load.
19:36 - I would have probably locked them in the vice and used my roundover endmill.
Yes, I have use that method with cardboard. I like the kind of cardboard that is on the back of a tablet.
Lots more people knew what a Belleville washer was, then what I had guessed.
Another tip is to use some soft aluminium wire such as welding rod in a couple of places using it vertically.
@@daveticehurst4191 yes... that would also work nicely.
The kids they hire for hardware stores these days do not know the names of the merchandise nor what the use is. You have to know what the latest name for the item is and where it is located to get what you need. I called one time to see if they had some woodruff keys and they searched the blank car keys and told me they did not have any Woodruff keys. Of course later on I stopped by and found them on the bolt aisle.
That’s why they call it self serve, LOL. Just how much can they know by playing video games?
Neat! Thanks Mr Pete. Probably total overkill, but I wondered if you could perhaps counterbore the upper part of the bottom plate and put a Belleville washer in between the bottom plate and the thinner upper plates? (perhaps even a pair of back-to-back washers to reduce the spring tension although would need a quite deep counter bore I guess).
Hold on there Mr. Pete! At 3:40 we can clearly see that you are using American Standard Wire Gauge # 281. This is for measuring electrical wire diameter, not sheet metal gauge thickness. #9 carbon steel sheet = .1495". # 9 electric wire = .1144" dia. I know, there's always one smartaz.
Nice project but I think instead of cutting off all the excess I would have made a longer base so as to better bridge the T-slots that always seem to be in the wrong place.
You could make them any size as you wished
that's one hell of a name you came of with teacher, considering who and what he was if you believe the story to be true i love you old man but your a sort yourself for that name. like always you convey thought and I've given it some. but for sure not it's due... give me time, as i stay busy learning .metal is more like and urge i can't control. but for now i'm trying to prepare my self for something much bigger though i feel some what lost at the moment... i suffer from stupidity. its hard for me to get things at times that's why your videos and others like it help clue me in i'm really gonna miss you when that day comes teacher. your wiser than you been letting on i deeply suspect. my admiration sir. all my respect. i feel you would have been a wonderful addition to the family if we had been related i think you would have been a awesome uncle to have. lol though i think if that happened you'd be for ever kicking me out of your shop. or saying things like put that down i'm not done yet. wait let me show you how to do that right. giggles. i'm so glad people like you exist or this ol'world would really suck lol.
Thanks for yet another great video Mr Pete. Why not make the first plate out of brass to avoid table damage? 🤓👍
Good idea
Love love love it!
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I really like the idea of these blocks. Think I might just make myself a set to use lol
Another great video and a very cool project. Thanks 😊
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Thanks for sharing, are you psychic? I was drawing up a so overwhelmingly complicated sliding and locking cam jack plates. Your simple find to fabricate build is awesome. I think the holes are for hold down or to lighten up the whole unit.
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I believe the holes in the original is for a bolt or pin if you need to make sure they don't shift on you. 👍👍
Thanks for the info
Thumbs up mr. Pete. Happy New Year to you and all the repetes.🤔😏🙂😊😆🤣👍
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Well done sir. I have a set of those "Sure Grips".
Good project very nice
5:46 "If I had a tumbling barrel I would have tumble these... Tumbling tumble weeds."
Love it sir, made me laugh out loud quite a bit more than one would expect. Great video overall, per usual with all your videos.
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TOT just completed a project using Belleville washers.
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“Don’t expect as much next year” 😂.
Another cracking example of the simple things being the best. That’s the first time I’ve seen anything in the machinists world with Made in Canada on ?
That’s true, almost nothing from Canada. Wonder why?
Thank s Lyle, I enjoyed that.
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Really liked the sure grip step blocks in their pretty little box. Did you ever figure out what the extra hole was for? thanks
Yes, and I have never used them even once. They are Too pretty to use, LOL
I can see why you would dislike cutting thick material on your band saw. I am surprised that you don't have a horizontal band saw?
They make cutting so easy plus you get very nice cuts!
I do, but it’s out in the cold garage. Also, it is hard to hang onto a very short pieces
Interesting best video you’ve made in a bit. Thanks
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I have clamps that look identical to the rite-hite but are branded Wilton.
Do you have a video tutorial of acu-rite digital readout features / functions. Maybe there arent any like the new imports that do bolt circles etc. But i dont even know what my abs button does. Thanks to you pete, my kids got a bridgport and a leblond last year. The oldest is 5 but im completely self taught because of ya. Happy new year.
Thank you for watching, I’m glad I helped you. No, I do not have a video on that
Great video as always. Going to start on making a set.