MAKE A BORE-RITE for Bridgeport Mill part 1 TIPS
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Cardboard aided drafting, my favorite. Thanks Mr Pete!
I've always used CAD "Cardboard Aided Design," but Lyle's CAD is just as good. :)
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MrPete, You've motivated once again to spend a little more money on tooling for which I am grateful! A criterion boring head and set of boring bars have been on my wishlist for quite some time. I just found a used DBL-202 on eBay with several carbide-tipped bars that looked to be in good condition. I will be making a similar version of your BORE-RITE indicator holder to try out the bar prior to tackling a few other projects I have in mind for this tool. I appreciate the time and effort you go through posting these videos for us. Cheers!
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Toast and coffee, with Mr. Pete, the best part of waking up! Another good one.
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You are correct that we (viewers) sometimes hate it when guys ramble on before or during getting to the point. You get a pass when you actually have something of value being said. That pass comes when someone with years of actual hands-on knowledge and experience is taking the time to explain and sharing what he learned the hard way. It doesn't hurt that you also have a great sense of humor. Plus, my parents raised me so that when someone older and wiser is speaking, you shut up and listen. You may just learn something. Cheers to you Mr. Pete.
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Always is a pleasure to hear you talk. You have no problem holding my attention. Watching you brings back memories of my HS shop classes and my teacher Mr Anderson. You two have a very close teaching style. This is an awesome project that can be very useful to many with similar boring heads.
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Please, from this day forward, speak like everyone of your viewers are here to enjoy and learn from EVERYTHING YOU SAY! Because 99% of us ARE here for that reason. The heck to the rest! We learn so much from everyone of your videos. NEVER sell yourself short. Thanks for all you do sir❤️
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There's a lot to be learned from your iterative approach. I often get discouraged by not knowing where to go next. It's good to think of each version as a prototype. Every time I remake something the next version is always so much better. I hope you aren't too frustrated with being locked down. It's good to get it off your chest. Here in Australia, we are very worried about our friends across the pacific.
It doesn’t bother me at all because I have so much to do. Do not worry about us. Our bad government has the people in a panic with their fear mongering. I have never seen such fear in people. And then so much dependence on the government
"Is Everybody Happy?" My dad used to say that all the time! Nice to hear that once again. I really enjoy your channel. I also enjoyed seeing the Model of the 1949 Mercury Sedan. The first car we had when I was a kid was a Green, 4 door 1949 Lincoln with the "Suicide Doors" and running boards. A virtual twin for the 1949 Mercury 2 Door. Really brings back some great old memories! (and another great instructional video. Thanks Teach!)
Thank you for watching. My next-door neighbor hood to Mercury’s of that vintage. A two door, and a four-door with suicide doors
Hi Mr Pete. Please don't worry about your so called ramblings and explanations. We're here because we want to hear your reasonings and tips. Anybody else, as you say, can watch something else.
p.s. I've told you this before, but your voice reminds me of a 1920's - 1930's radio presenter. Excellent.
Regards Mark in the UK
I love the way you think and prototype, Tubalcain! Its great to see the way your thoughts progress as you visual the final product. It is a tremendous insight into how you work.
Thank you very much!
This is an essential tool for setting boring heads accurately. I wouldn't say you probably won't make one.... you might not make it today, but eventually you will find yourself needing one. There are several articles (averaging about one every two years) in Home Shop Machinist or Hobby Machinist covering this subject. I never tire of reading about these (even though I already made mine several years ago) because many times they improve upon previous generations in some (small) way.
You are mistaken ( ' nobody is going to make this " ) , I can't cast the part but I'm headed for the garage to find some 6061 plate . Looking forward to part 2 .
Thanks for the design and inspiration . Stay safe.
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I think I will too. My boring head is made of Chinesium, but a "BORE-RITE" for it will be a great help.
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@@bobvines00 Chinesium thats a great one
That slug you got when you used the hole saw, it's a future pulley, flywheel, gear, large washer, etc. I never throw out offcuts except for chips- even my old pouring sprues give usable round stock; every thing of substance goes in my bits and bobs drawer and that's the first place I look when I need just a quick little "something" to help me out.☺
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EXACTLY RIGHT I do the same and salvage/scavenge shapes to weld/build.
You say most of us will probably never make one of these. I think I probably will as that is a very useful device when trying to hit tightly tolerance bore sizing. I know you did this in the mill to give a combined demo of how the device works but I think I will more likely finish the bore in the lathe. That way I can check final sizing by using the boring head as a plug gauge. Anyhow, thanks for the excellent tutorial on this project👏👏
Good for you. I had considered doing This enough for jaw Chuck
How convenient ! My boring head arrived today, now I'll have to make one of these . Thank you
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Gosh I just love your videos Mr Pete! I first discovered them maybe 10 years ago when I bought my lathe and I watched all the lathe ones and did not pay much attention to the milling ones. Now I have treated myself to a big old mill so I'm watching a whole lot of new ones. I see you as one of TH-cam's engineering superstars and would very happily buy you a beer if you are ever south of the equator (NZ). Many thanks and best wishes.
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I'm impressed again! I think I will make one. I.m sure I would have said to my self "oh I should have drilled the hole in the wood deeper" Great video and always enjoy. I'm always amazed why people would give a thumbs down. Do they think someone would not watch a video with a thousand plus thumbs up and seven thumbs down? Anyway just a rant. Keep um coming, stay safe, and God Bless.
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You're not the only one who doesn't like working in the cold. Anymore, I don't do stuff in the shop unless it's in the low 50s at least unless it's a desperate need. Several years ago I had to get under the house to work on the plumbing when it was below freezing. I'm always amazed by videos by people living in the colder climes doing stuff where you can see their breath and they're happy it's above freezing a bit.
I agree. Do you ever watch the TH-cam channel from Russia where they manufacture back hoe Buckets? Even though it’s indoors, it appears on heated and they are wearing heavy clothing. I would never work there
@@mrpete222 Nope. Hadn't seen that one. I wouldn't work there either.
Great project, really nice tool. Glad you didn't give up on it.
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Thank you Mr Peterson for sharing your though process in developing an idea. You sharing your experience and knowledge is greatly appreciated and welcomed. Please receive my heart felt thanks.
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I have to make this! I always disliked the adjusting of my boring head, this is much more accurate. BTW, I ordered a couple sets of the expanding arbors from Breakheart Tool that you showed in another video. Very nice!
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I know nothing about this and some other tools so a full explanation is very welcome.
Keep up the good work. Thanks. M.
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Thank you Mr Pete, or Tubalcain. I am not a machinist,but now regret not studying this profession, I'm 44 years old, can I still learn at my age? this line of work really interests me, wish you tube had been available earlier in my life, and you are definitely a good shop teacher.
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Me Pete. I absolutely love this. I want to make one for my 3” Chinese boring head. Maybe one day I can get around to it. Also, when needing to take very small amounts off, I’ve been known to increase the RPM and take another spring pass. The RPM. increase causes the boring bare to flex a bit more due to centrical force and takes just a bit more. Don’t know if that’s a valid method. But it works for me. Down side is, you really just guessing because you don’t know the amount of flex.
Thanks, I will have to try that
Hi Billy greetings from south africa just seen your comments on increasing the speed so that the boring head cuts a bit bigger.. your quite right it it works like a dream .. used to work a SIP jig borer and that was a trick we all used.. we're in lock down here for another 3 weeks and I suppose you are as well .. keep safe wherever you are .. CHEERS Dug Hogarth
Loved this short series Mr Pete, the 1st part was perfect for my long soak in the tub, thanks as always Sir
Your perseverance is always an inspiration to me! Cool project!
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Pretty neat. I think to this point I would have added a large fillet radius in each corner where the rectangular pad joins the flange. But your casting has perfect strength as molded.
I would replace the thumb screws with socket head cap screws having the same wrench size as the boring bar. Again only my
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The convenient hold down tab could be enlarged if milling from solid if the bore is slightly large or you have several boring bars. Add a hex head shcs across the gap to tighten the slack.
Good content, cardboard aided design!
Mr. Pete, you say no one will ever make one of these but you may be wrong about that. In fact, it's eerie just how timely this video is to me. 😉
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Thank you for posting these videos. I hear what you are saying about the weather, every year it seems my tolerance for cold drops a wee bit.
you should'nt always assume we won't build these things, This project looks exactly like something I will build & use, I recently made a variation of your height gauge & use it all the time. Thanx as always for the lesson
That is how I challenge your people
I enjoy your explanations and plan to make the "Bore-Rite" but out of plate. Yes the noga and an indicator works but your Bore-Rite gives me more practice on the Mill. I made one of your indicator holders last week modified to fit my lathe and indicator body size. You and Rudy K have taught me a lot. Thanks
Thank you, I remember Rudy
The explanations are terrific. The set up and thought process is the heart of the project. Always interesting!
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Mr Pete I use a cardboard aided design also it helps me with anything I make I just can’t get the computer one I am happy to see someone else use thanks again for what you do
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Good morning fellow hobbyst machinists. Have you noticed Mr Pete is always able to publish contents about tools you've never seen? Yes, sometimes people image them. He does. Thank you teacher for this new great lesson.
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Great content Mr Pete! Always a pleasure to watch! Thanks!
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Mr.Pete on your comments about wishes. As my mother used to say "If horses were wishes beggars would ride"
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Just want to say Thanks again for the content. All the content. Would not be the same world without Mr. Pete. Re. the Bridgeport model. Could not think of a superlative worthy of such work so remained silent. Re. the model building (Revell, Aurora, etc.) I know from whence you speak. Matthew Onks
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Great project. I made mine right after seeing the what is it video and I think every boring head should have one. I made mine from 1/2" flat aluminum with the indicator mount held in with screws. I also made mine to hinge open to mount it to the head. This was so I could install with the tool mount extended past the head body. Would be nice to have a double reading gage so the indicator would read true bore changes.
Sounds like you did a great job on yours
What an enjoyable video. Even got many machining tips. I watch your videos with an open mind to learn some of what you know. I'm never disappointed. Thank you, take care.
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That looks really good. I guess that is going into the project notebook for eventual production. Thanks Mr. Pete. Very good instruction today.
Nice one Mr Pete and we got a bonus on how to use a boring bar.
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Beautiful morning, wonderful coffee and learning from my favorite shop teacher!!.......priceless!
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That's real cool I've never seen one of those. Needs a wood case. Should scrape the way's on my boring head now. ha ha love this show!
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I'm currently in the process of engineering and casting a spindle stop for my drill press; not nearly as exacting a job as this but it is around the same shape and dimensions and the vid is nevertheless helpful and inspirational. Thanks! In fact, the more I watch, I'm starting to think maybe I can tweak my design a little bit to accommodate holding a dial indicator in the perpendicular orientation in order to adjust to a finer scale. Probably uneccesary but heck, why not?
You can do it! Sounds like an interesting job
Thanks for giving us something to do at home while on lockdown, I am tired of making MT2 blanks. I will make mine from a piece of aluminium as I not able to do castings. Stay safe
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Job well done... can't wait to see part (3). Stay safe. Best regards.
Thank you for teaching us in a funny way.....regards from a german machinist
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Short sleeves, now jewelry, safety glasses, was preached that 55 years ago, how true!
"No use for it even if you were given one?" Good lord. I need one of these in my life *yesterday*. Looks like possibly a good weekend project, since the wife's off visiting her mom...
I liked it when you pop the numbers 1953 up that's my birth year
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This morning I used my Criterion boring head on my Bridgeport to make a ball with rotary table tilted at 11 degrees ala Stefan Gotteswinter. l shortened a half inch left hand boring bar. Left hand tightens the criterion to arbor right hand threads when cutting an outside diameter.
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Great project Mr. Pete, can't wait to see part two. Thanks
I would have loved to have had something like that with a good tenth reading indicator on it when I was working in the Engineering Lab at Boeing in Wichita. I remember having complicated parts with a lot of hours of work in them and needing a final operation of a hole that needed to be right within a few tenths. I would be sweating bullets. My best shot was putting an indicator on it with a magnetic base on the table and hoping for the best.
You made me tense just talking about it.
Another great lesson thanks I'm putting it on my to do list
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Really enjoyed! Casting a large hole in the center would have also made centering the work in the mill more of an ordeal without a machined surface to reference. Thanks, Mr. Pete! :-)
Could have centred it using the OUTSIDE of the casting, a few thou doesn't matter until you drill the holes for the pin and indicator.
@@kevingrime5772 Well sure, but that cast-in center hole sure was faster than indicating the perimeter. Just another way to skin a cat.
Thanks for your time spent on this. Careful what you wish for mate. You could of had 116deg F and 10% humidity at Christmas with the fires down here in the land of Oz.
Yeah, let's just say that summer was a right bitch.
Excellent video Mr. Pete, except for one thing....now I have to have one...thanks for pioneering the job....!
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I actually _crave_ your detailed explanations. The biggest problem I had in school - shop and too many other classes - was lazy teachers who just went, “Let me do it in front of you a few times [really fast!] and you'll pick it up by osmosis... unless you're just not applying yourself.” (Not that the hands-on part isn't critically important too.) So I thank you especially.
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re your question in VLOG #7 - Yes, I read and appreciate your replies. The only reason I don't reply again is that I figure you're busy enough as it is. (Tell me if I'm wrong. :) ) Again, thanks for sharing your wisdom and _so much_ of your time.
I want to make one..see the benefit.. gotta build my foundry furnace first... even if I never get around to it the video is great information ... thank you for all the knowledge that you share... all the talking is just bonus material as far as I'm concerned.. love you man!
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I must say after so many years in the shop, I do like watching you do the work, rather than doing it myself.
I would like to add that I would have made a plug gauge for the tool body fit, rather than taking the boring head off the arbor.
Different strokes for different folks.
I like the shows! JIM
ABSOLUTELY!!!...there are SUN strokes...HEAT strokes...and even a few CORONARIES thrown in- just to make things INTERESTING(!)
"Is everybody happy?" Yes I am, "me and my shadow, strolling down the avenue."
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Lol, I missed the hacksaw melvin comment that was awesome! 😂
Re: "I know there are guys out there saying, "When will this guy shut up?" There are? What are their addresses?
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Weel woop up on em!
@@MrPatdeeee when they get bored they will hit the thumbs down and go watch TV. They won't be watching a documentary or something that might make them think.
I for one enjoy all of the dialog and learning, Thank you for the video's
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I'm sure it's not likely, but if you offered those castings for sale I would certainly buy one! This is a cool project and very useful!
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I need to build two of these, one big, one small. Have resisted foundry work, Now need to build oven. Thanks for all your good work.
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A Southbend heavy 10, is following me home today. To say I'm a novice...woud be complimentary. ;) BUT I'M LEARNING....from a master teacher. The kid i bought it from knows MR. PETE too. ;)
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hell of a tool there oyu made and its great to see how you made it from cad paper to the fixture of it working so perfect..
What really sucked was we had 3 different Operators and each had their own way of tightening and loosening the tool to make a move. Heck some one left it tight and made an adjustment and rounded the adjustment dial.
I forget the bore bars but one was Kennametal. I really like them. There was a bunch of different boring heads and tool holders. Inserts were the most important part of the tool holder. From the chip breaker to the hardness. All my knowledge went to waste because of Scabapilare wanted to protect their SCABS. I had 32 years of machining experience and Cat said I didn't have enough machine experience. I wanted a day shift job so I put in a bid for the job and they said I didn't have enough experience, I was really mad and told them to stick it. The guy who got the job only had 6 months at Cat.
I should have fought it but I stayed out for the 2 years the Union lied to the Union members. I never crossed the picket line. What's crazy is the Marines when I was getting out pounded into my head that Unions were Commie breeding grounds, so I in 1973 when hired in hated the Union until a day shift forman came after me for his b s. His boy on day shift set up a new job and got it okayed by inspection to run and they were all junk. Both days and 2nd shift ran a bunch of junk.
They didn't put the key ways on the fixture and every time they milled the part the fixture would move and I caught it and fixed it. Darn day shift foreman came unglued on me. I had to call for my Union steward because he wanted to fire me for finding out all the parts ran before me were Scrap. Oh well that's was when I only had 3 years in and still scared of my own shadow. I got 2 nick names at work but mostly was nicked name Rambo. The other was The Booper, LMAO anything and everything happened to me.
Better to be pissed off than pissed on!
Thanks for your always interesting vlog. I’ll have to make one for my shop only W/O the casting.
THANK YOU...for sharing. Yes, I very much enjoyed.
Thanks for another great video and a great idea. I hope to get around to making one of these. See you in part 2.
Morning mr Pete, another great video, can’t wait for the next part.
Boy named Sue, bet ur tuff!!
Mr. Pete, I have no idea what you are talking about! I will definitely be making this!
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Great video, you might want to think about selling those castings. I'm sure they would go quickly.
Too much work
good vid as usual...definetly be one of these on my list of projects,,,up to about 998 now :)
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Great video looking forward to seeing the completion. Thanks for sharing
We are happy. Is Lyle happy?
Not bored thanks for sharing Information I can use on other projects.
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Love this guy!!! If you don't want to hear the explanations you have to... (points the way out with his finger)
This will be my next project! Been waiting for you to do this since you showed the Boreset.
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You keep giving me things I need to make. At the moment I’m finally doing my version of the green drill press vice
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Great job mrpete. Great project.
Very well done Mr. Pete! Gonna hafta make one for myself. That I WILL use!
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May be a lot of quit but must be a lot of start too or you wouldn't have so many versions. :-)
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I think the original mounting using flat plates was so you could change them to fit square boring heads like the ones you have. Just remove the 4 screws and transfer the blocks over. The plates could easily be stamped out. You can make it thinner on the outer edges if you fit a
fastener across the opening ( like a steady rest) than a screw which spreads it. The original only touched on 3 points not all the way round.
The best part of this fitting is that you can work in imperial OR metric, just change the indicator!!!
You must have a lot of spares laying around, lol. Great video Mr Pete, nice project.
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Great video. Looking forward to part two.
Mr. Pete, coffee and a 100lb. "baby dog" snoozing on my lap. It's a great morning.
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I will have to make one of these. Drawing almost done. Thanks.
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You know Randy, I make fun of fusion 360. But I sure wish I knew how to do it like you. You make it look so effortless
Another awesome tool mate.....i gotta make one now
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Good morning Mr. Pete, Great video cool tool. I could use one of those. Have to make one soon. Thanks for the idea. Coffee now please and thank you.
"...and if I screw one up I've got a spare. Of course that's never actually happened...." How did you do that without fingers crossed behind your back? Both hands are in view! Do you have a third hand you ain't telling us about?
For those of us that don't have foundry setups I have to say that the two part with the screwed on half block which could be made rather easily from 1/2" alloy plate looks pretty attractive.... More than one road to Rome and all that.
I'm also seeing in my mind's eye a yoke that is a "G shaped version like a G spanner which hooks into the hole, has too hard bumps to ride against the boring head and a locking screw much like an Indicol holder.
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Nice work,, wish they had a casting class in school ,, another lost art .....
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That is a great project. It will be interesting. It is a great accessory.
Good morning Mr.Pete.
"One from communist China" - 4:36
Love the way he thinks. lol
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I was rather partial to the "Chinese-ium", Hahahaha.
9:17 I'm with you about the 45 degree thing. Give me 80 and I'm happy. Lol.
I've said anything below 65° is freezing for years.
I'll swap with you. We've already hit over 90° down here in north central Florida with the high humidity. Unfortunately I start sweating at about 72°, so I'd prefer the 45° temperatures so I could get out into the yard or my shop to work on home projects.
@@bobvines00 Now you know why there are snowbirds. Lol.
i do intend to make one of these --very useful
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I suffered the trials and tribulations of cheapo far eastern crappy boring heads for years, waste of time. Then i bought a used criterion and it was night and day, no comparison. The readings on the dial actually meant something, it held steady, didn't move under use. So i will make one of these little contraptions.
I always wondered if the imported boring heads were any good
@@mrpete222 No, the dials made no sense at all with the ones i had, in either metric or imperial. I used to have to use the dial gauge on a magnetic stand as you did in the video.