Aces vs Aces vs Kings with Phil Hellmuth | The Most Chaotic Hand in Poker History!
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Never did I want to see a king so bad
If a king would have showed up it would have been the best upset hands down
You beat me to it
While I admit that there's something to be said for inappropriate premature celebration at the table, they also were trying their best to SAVE this idiot from calling with kings
He deserved to lose just as much as they did.
right?!
Yup
Both players actions after moving all in with aces were disgraceful in this hand.
I was thinking the same thing. There was still someone in the hand with a decision to make. The disrespect was horrible.
It was also pretty dumb, I mean she was saying she had AA.
They were definitely trying to influence the action, stupidly wanting a fold from Richey
@@andrehanderson yeah exactly lol
She gave too many chances to fold, wat a donk😂
I've never rooted harder for a King in my life!
It's quite unbelievable that two professionals are openly bragging about how quickly they called, high-fiving each other, and Beth Shak is dancing saying "I got it", all whilst a third player is still deciding whether to call. Why don't you just tell him you both have aces, you clearly don't want his chips. And then the third player calls!? This is like three drunks in a home game, not three pros as the WSOP Main Event.
That's what you get when real life barbies with megalomaniac minds are allowed to walk freely
This!
Yet... He goes in with kings...
It's not the main event it's a 3k
She is coke addict
Easiest king king fold in poker history should a been headline
Nah never fold kings.
@@mrhumble2937 Doyle famously said something like "a great player can count the number of times he's folded kings on 1 hand"......THIS is the exact situation Doyle was talking about, you 100% fold kings here
Especially when Hellmuth insta calls and says I called in a quarter of a second. At the same time Shak is dancing saying I got it. He must have been oblivious to everything and all he contracted on were the kings
The woman was literally saying I got them to her husband 10 feet away throwing up ace signals and asking if she had them. What a fool with KK
@@MainStreamRegimeDemocratsFold KK EVERY time in that situation. The consequences for calling off are too great. Live to fight another hand.
That was disgraceful behaviour by Shak and Hellmuth. I was really hoping for the KKs to win.
True. But how dumb do you gotta be to call with Kings in this situation. Both players were literally telling him what they had
Joe Buck: "That was a disgusting act by Shak and Hellmuth..."
KK is the same as AA before the river comes. Better when both the other aces aren't in the deck. The players with pocket rockets are pretty much depending on a flush... which is what, 2%?
Its essentially the same as duece deuce til all the cards are flipped.
Thats what makes poker so fun. A trash nothing hand can become the nuts. AA gets cracked all the time.
Idk how many times I snap folded like a 8 3 offsuit, as I should... and it would have been trips or a full boat lol.
@gwoody4003 how is KK the same before river ??? You are behind and have to hit a 2 out river... its not the same.. lol.. the aces don't have to hit the river
@@bestvalet70 what I mean is a pair is just a pair til all the cards are flipped. Your opponent could have like... 7-2 off and manage to turn trips or 2 pair and your kings are worthless.
That might have been the easiest pre flop fold with kings in poker history
With less than 10 BB left ? No.
Easiest fold???? You should switch to playing chess or something
@russbrown3159 You should've stopped after "life"
@@Alex-uo7th bro who cares about that. They are basically telling him they have aces
@@russbrown3159Of course. Because the Aces were basically guaranteed to split.
But just because he was the only one with a chance to win the whole pot, doesn't mean he was favourite to beat the Aces 😂.
In other words, both the Aces had a 75% chance of splitting a win, while the Kings had only a 20% chance of winning it all.
So he still made an unbelievably stupid call 😂
I understand poker was different 15-20 years ago. But looking back at this hand now, this has to be the easiest fold of KK I’ve literally ever seen in my entire life.
Nowdays it would never be a fold, becasue people understand shoving ranges better and with 10BB, and a shove from a 16 BB stack plus an overcall by an 8BB stack. It goes in. ALWAYS
@@michaeljames3912 Exactly this, this is a call even if the opponent show the aces directly before the call. People here doesn't seem to understand that the stack is even more important than the cards. After that he is committed to an 80k raise, probably 5-6 bb left if fold, you call this spot even with 7-2 off
@@Alex-uo7th Even if they show the aces?! 😂
@@michaeljames3912I mean, Beth was literally dancing and saying "I got it", Phil was grandstanding. Knowledge of shoving ranges doesn't mean anything when people are literally telling you they have Aces.
@jamesbell1613 😂 yeah that's like showing me a gun fully loaded and asking me to go first in Russian roulette
This guy with Kings didn't notice how happy these two were before he called? She was telling the crowed she had it...... He got what he deserved.
He knew they both got the same hand. Hence he’s drawing live. Two for the price of one.
@@CCharlie-vb5mn😂😂😂😂
@@CCharlie-vb5mn 1:34 Nah, you can clearly see him being disappointed the moment he saw they both got 2 aces. So he indeed got what he deserverd.
and Phil was arguing he snapped call ^^ He would have think a little with AK or QQ, almost easy fold with KK here, the acting girl is smiling to be snap call by PH... and PH is PH... What the heecckk did he think they can have, at least one of them?
50 cards vs 2, what are u thinking
3:14 Phil finally wins a pot, hugs the other winner, then for some reason goes for a high five after the hug and get left hanging
why high five, after a hug... silly. You high five first, and grab their hand and pull them in for a hug
let's hope that this didn't tilt him.
Splitting the pot is not winning the pot.
@@LetsMoveAwayFromUSA-cy4fo knocking someone out of the tourney is though.
He is so awkward.
I would bet money he is on the autism/aspergers spectrum.
Definitely a narcissist at best.
I’ve never wanted a king to hit more
Whenever Phil Helmuth is in a big hand, you can always count on Phil Ivey being on the sideline offering side bets 😂
Yeah I though I saw him.
Hard to call with the KK considering Shaks and Phil’s behaviour screamed aces.
Any normal human with sense folds kings there
@@PW-om1dsThey were both literally announcing to the audience that they had aces. You don't need to see the cards when they tell you what they have.
This was 2007 when things were different. I would have hated it but I would've folded.
its +ev call if you know they both have aces
@@jarkkokettunen200 no it's not. You're still crushed lol.
Yup. But computers won't.
I would say he deserved a King with all the antics by the other 2 players but it's such an awful call at that point.. could nobody win the hand??
KK is the same as AA or 22 til the cards are turned.
Better when both opponents have AA. If thats what he put them both on, that was a solid call. They need a flush to win. Thats like 2%
Its just top pair.
It didnt pan out... but it was a solid call.
@@gwoody4003 I disagree. If he put them both on two Aces, he had to know that it's still only 20% chance of winning. This is relatively easy to estimate, you have 2 outs at 5 cards so the chance to lose is roughly (1 - 0.05)^5 [2 cards of 46 remaining is about 5%] which again is roughly 75%. Count in that a flush will also kill you since the player with the corresponding Ace will win, and your loss chance goes up to somewhere near 80%. Killing yourself with 80% chance while only having the chance to triple up is suicide. I agree that this is not a perfectly easy calculation to make, but for a poker Pro it should be mathematical basics.
@@felixaquila9701 I wonder if he really did put them both on AA.
Cus yeah, AA is likely to be cracked 20% of the time.
KK vs AA has 15% odds of winning. Idk how it compounds when there's 2 AA out there or in the case we know the other 2 aces are dead.
But if I knew with near certainty both opponents were AA and I had KK, I think I would still make that call. They are already guarenteed top pair... but near improbable to improve beyond top pair. Idk it would really depend on how my day was going. Some days you just have better luck and if I been connecting all day I would probably call it lol.
Hindsight is always 2020, and you can't really get bogged down in shoulda coulda thinking in Poker or you will end up timid or on tilt.
I noticed a lot of players deep in a tournament seem to get exhausted or bored and wanna get it over with and take gambles they wouldn't in early rounds. Having a guarenteed profit sewed up I am sure has a lot to do with it. 3rd place is a decent payout, I wouldn't be as worried about being wrong like getting cleaned out early would make me.
We know how it turned out and could see everyone's hand, and so its easier to say we would turn that down and it was a bad call. And despite the obvious tells, you never KNOW for sure what they had.
If he won we would be praising the genius 4D chess move 🤣.
I wish he had won, the Hellmuth meltdown would have been epic. You could tell he was worried a little when those other 2 aces were shown.
@@gwoody4003 "But if I knew with near certainty both opponents were AA and I had KK, I think I would still make that call." - Why? I can see that someone would disregard the possibility of 2x2 Aces because this event is so improbable, but if you were near certain that you had to beat the Aces, and you know that this will only happen in 20% of cases, why would you still do the call? Or why would you make the call depending on previous luck? I mean, I can absolutely understand playing risky when doing recreational poker, but in a tournament, this would just show a lack of mental discipline.
What an insanely stupid call, when both your opponents literally told you they have Aces. Sure, they're blocking each other from hitting a set themselves, but with only two outs to win preflop, Kings are still dominated big time.
It's called gambling .. he gave himself a chance to win a big pot.. he prolly thought Beth's acting job ment she had A/Q A/K again..
EZ fold right
Coming from someone who doesn't play poker professionally.
@flyawaytodie You might be uneducated. Just because it appeared that they told him on a tv broadcast doesn't mean he caught on nor does it mean it was that obvious. Its a TV edit. Clue in.
@@LOVEBUNNNYtheres a difference between gambling like a pro and gambling like a complete idiot
The way those two goofballs were dancing around like that, laying down kings, pre-flop would be a piece of cake.
Saw the words "Hellmuth" and "Chaotic", that sold me right away
Shak was over the top. She was doing too much. I was wishing for a K to bust her.
100%
That would have been justice to see that POS lose after all that BS
I'd have had her hand called dead for taking cards off the table
she was definately on coke here
Except a K wouldn't have busted her because she had both players covered.
Honestly would of loved for shak to pull a K on the turn 😂
Would have*
She had aces.
how do you get 52 likes for a comment that makes zero sense ?
@@stopsheepingso? He would have had a set
@@jamesshaw4272 is someone a little jealous 😂😂🤦♂️
That was easiest fold of all time with KK but he still calls it off.
I know we can see the cards. But how did he not know at least one of them had Aces, the chick high on coke basically said she had them.
Glad someone else noticed she was yeeted
Definitely glad someone noticed the drug use
Her reaction seeing Phil has the other 2 Aces after celebrating so hard is priceless
Pricesless brainless?
Giving KK lots of opportunity to fold...
I guess it's the first time she had 2 aces, and it shows. total rookie moves by her and Phil.
She comes across as a bit of a dingbat to begin with.
How did Richey see all that behaviour, find it within himself to CALL, then roll his eyes when she showed the Aces, like it was some sort of surprise that she had them? She was practically showing her hand through all that galavanting. As was Phil when he went for the high 5 and bragging about his snap call. They didn't even have a moment where they thought "Wait, we can't celebrate any harder than this. Do we both have Aces?".
What an atmosphere back then.
A king was so deserved there
How do you make that call with Kings!?!
It's like Hellmuth and Shak were playing with their hands up.
If I remember correctly if he folded it would’ve left hime 6.5 BB. Maybe ICM says fold but idk 🤷♂️
Now,these days the poker math wizards probably would’ve folded
@@jjjrjjjr1being left with 6.5bbs is still way better than going all in in a spot where you know you're absolutely crushed.
I was playing 2 online tourneys at the same time once had pocket aces on both at the same time lost both
Your memory is off. He had 424k left, so 14 big blinds.
Someone explain to me why he didn’t fold the kings. He had to have known at least one of them had aces. I can’t figure it out
Doyle said most poker pros can count on 1 hand the time they folded kings , this should have been 1 of those times for that kid
lol right! When a player is literally dancing after being called all-in, that's called a 'tell'. If you can't fold KK then, you never can.
@Nick-jb4xi Its a tv edit, relax. She was likely doing that all of the time considering how drunk she was.
Nobody in these comments is noticing that the guy has about 10 big blinds! Helmuth has 8bb! Its a crap shoot donkament you get kings in here all day long.
@@michaeljames3912 80k was a raise wasn't it? So multiply those numbers by 3. So the maths still says call, even if the tells say fold.
" If it came runner, runner spades Phil Helmuth would Launch himself into orbit"!!😆😆💯
Worst KK call ever.
As Harrington said: "Never fold KK unless u have 2 all in's in front, and one opponent in dancing and second is entertaining the crowd". Btw: He really didn't believe even ONE of them haven't got aces? I am suprised seeing Hellmuth, such experienced player with so careless approach. I regret Richey haven't got them locked with no outs with gappers like 65s, or folding KK to see how they victoriously... split the pot, because dancing made him fold.
If there's ever a time to lay down KK preflop, this is it.
I'm not gonna hate on the guy for calling, laying down KK is very hard and almost nobody gets it right when they do. But they did everything except turn their Aces face up. And their behavior was disgraceful.
With Blinds 15k/30k , 80k committed on raise and less than 8 BB left if fold, you cannot fold even if the opponent show the aces in your face before the call. Simple Math.
@@Alex-uo7th He has to call 424k, pot is 823k, odds vs two AA hands are 20%. Simple math - easy fold.
@@Spailzor Are you sure that your numbers are correct? 424k is the call amount shown based on the stack of the raiser that went all-in, but does he have so much stack? I remember that he had just few BB remainings after the eventual fold. If your numbers are correct, you are right, but i remember him having a much shorter stack.
@@Alex-uo7th It's indeed really hard to understand stack sizes with this information. I try to look at pot size. Before Hellmuth's all-in pot is 661k, after that its 823k, so it looks like he has 162k. Also, his move is shown as all-in, but Shak's raise is shown as 504k, so she has more than anyone. So, it seems that 504k is Richey's stack. Also, when he calls the pot increases by 424k as well - from 823k to 1247k.
@@Spailzor Your numbers seem to adds up and, on this situation, is indeed a fold. The only thing that i'd like to add is that is very hard to assign aces to both opponents. He did a large raise, she went all in (still QQ-AK possible), and Hellmuth instacalled ALL-in with the original raiser that still have to talk (so AA), so it's possible that he assigned only AA to hellmuth, that was less dangerous regarding the stack, and even if lost to Hellmuth, he could have ended in profit with the side pot.. I did a quick MATH (WRONG, BUT NOT BY MUCH) and the chance of that hand dealt preflop is 1/10.793.861 so we can't really blame him for not assigning ACEs to both opponents, while he have kings. IF AA were assigned only to hellmuth (that is a reasonable logical thinking), the decision to call is the right one.
She’s jumping up and down yelling I got it, i got it! ☠️☠️
P.S. that was a healthy high five
why did he call ??? they were both screaming they got aces!! just about throwing pocket aces face up at his face, and he still put all his money in with kings?? this needs to be investigated for colluding, he is clearly chip dumping to Hellmuth and Shak.
Like amateur hour out there, you'd think neither of them had played live poker before.
KK and both players after you go all in - it may be very tough to fold but sometimes you have to.
It was the easiest KK fold of all time by the way they were acting
I wouldn't say their behavior was disgraceful. It was undisciplined and stupid. With a third player still in the hand, they should have been doing whatever they could to draw him into the hand instead of giving him every reason to fold. It's surprising to see Phil that careless. It's almost like he forgot there was a third player still in the hand.
Well, they got the third person in, so who knows, maybe their antics worked ?
When you make it to the final table of the WSOP everything you think you know about tells is actually the opposite. They were trying to give a weakness tell by demonstrating strength tell behaviors to get the call, and it worked.
@@gordo3582I doubt that. She looked obviously GENUINELY excited
Nothing for nothing, shouldn't have Beth's hand been declared dead once she took it away from the table?
I've seen this hand before and I'm still trying to will the universe to produce a king on the river. No luck this time, I'll keep trying. 😂❤
2:02 I'm so blind I didn't even realize that was Phil Ivey behind the graphics of the hands and equity percentages.
I SO wanted a king to hit.
I wasn't, anyone who makes that stupid call deserves to lose
The hole card cam, the multiple moving camera angles, the lighting, the closeness of the crowd, the commentary.
Man, live coverage of the WSOP back then was as cinematic as it gets! 🍿
I was just noticing that! The garbage we get from poker go is barely watchable. One table only, with the same two camera angles for hours
@@tonydoinstuffI agree. ESPN's coverage was on a different level to PokerGo. Massive downgrade in cinematic experience. You should never fix what isn't broken.
Sharp 100,000 us dollar to peso
What a joke. Those 2 players should have been suspended from play for 10 hands.
So many great players watching. These days there is nobody in the stands.
I would have thought that when she took her cards off the table, it would have made her hand dead...
Richey should have folded . Common sense tells you she had AA
Common sense?
A raise
A reraise
A re re raise all in
And she's dancing "I got it I got it "
You don't even need common sense to fold that
@mckmck672 How many times have you folded kings preflop? Both players he is up against would go all in with jacks or queens. Listen to the commentary. "We know she likes to go all in with AQ". Brett also knows and realizes Phil could isolate and hopefully have a weaker pair like jacks or queens.
@@ilove9489 Phill Hellmuth is not going to look at a raise from early position and a reraise all in and snap call with JJs
Also no one is going to dance around saying "I got it I got it" with Jack's or queens
@@ilove9489literally any time someone acts like this, let alone 2 players acting like this. 😂 it was blatantly obvious.
it's amazing how much the game has changed. transport these guys to a 2023 table and they look like recreational players. anything from recs to absolute fish.
Phil still winning braclets in 2023...
Robbie you do realize that Helthmuth had to improve his game over the years..and if he still played the same way he did back then, he would be getting crushed now a days..meaning the original comment still stands as is.
Back when poker was exciting to watch
@@DefundtheIRS1776 power to you if you like watching a game you should be able to beat in 2023 as a 2/5 player. i would rather see the very best version of the game being played than watching these "characters" with very little concept of how to play.
@@DefundtheIRS1776 keep in mind that there's someone left to act in this hand and in 2023 there would be huge controversy regarding their decision to speak whilst another player has yet to act. this is just amateur hour and it attracts peoplet hat don't understand the game and want to see the characters and the drama. you still have characters, you still have drama, but in 2023 you have much, much better poker players and they have better etiquette
"Everybody's out of order" is spot on. Actually tasteless to the game/art.
Lost a big cash pot with Aces vs. Aces. He hit the flush on the turn. Will never forget it.
You don't forget it, that's why you'll never be a decent player.
@@danmc8084 agreed, that's why I quit
I did exactly that to someone else! Hope it wasn’t you 😬
Been there, on both sides. After millions of hands it’s just funny…
After Phil jumps up and repeatedly says I have 2 aces look at me I have 2 aces (ok technically he didn't but jesus christ he's basically screaming look how smart I am to have AA here) then KK should have bailed.
Don't quite know if I would say that was the most chaotic hand for a split pot by the dominant hands. Most chaotic would have been a flop of two diamonds or hearts. Then the turn is the K of diamonds or hearts to give Richey trips and Shak the flush draw and then the river gives Shak the flush and double knockout. THAT would have been chaotic.
I can't begin to understand how, with all the antics going on, he couldn't let go of KK. Forget the antics, the fact that PH snapped all in the way he did can only mean AA.
Phil only had 5.5 big blinds. His hand doesn't matter.
Only time I lay down Kings is if I'm playing with two people who jump up pre flop dancing and singing "I got it, I got it"
Easiest pre flop fold for kings ever
I've only ever folded Kings preflop twice in my 15+ years of playing poker, and both times I was correct, cause it was from players kind of acting like this.
Idk why he go all in when both players give him a hints that they have aces 😂😂😂 especially Phil speech ( 1/4 sec she go all in I go all in )
I thought Tilly's voice was grating, then after hearing Shak's voice, I could listen to Tilly all day.
I doubt Richey is capable of folding those KK, even if the AAs are face up.
I suspect that due to him being down to 10bigs in what was essentially a hyper turbo, Richie figured that going in with KK was still his best bet, even if it did mean being up against AA. And if he figured out that they both had AA, he'd know he wouldn't get beat by a set. So he went for the triple-up on hopes of catching a King.
I suspect you have no clue what you're talking about
@@tommypatrick166 Yup... trying to spike a king against AA makes no sense.
I mean, that's one way to look at it. It's not a profitable way to look at it, but it still remains a way to look at it.
That's a possible explanation. If the king had hit, everyone would have been calling him brilliant.
Yeah, it's 400k to win well over 1.2M. He only needs to NOT be up against aces, what, 20% of the time for that to be a profitable call?
I'm not so sure that was his actual thought process, but it's not a *crazy* thought process.
Phil's wife is so ashamed she married him she has to wear sun glasses inside
Girls with time machine: "I'm your daughter"
Guys with time machine: "Fold"
What a classy lady.
I remember this hand so well, as I was screaming at the TV: "WTF?? Hellmuth just broke the rules and maybe borderline cheated (yeah, what a world champion) and affected action after him that could have an impact on the next player. Hellmuth has always been a narcissistic sack of monkey puke, (and forget the crap about it's just him being "so competitive"), and as far as I'm concerned, he's a cheater. I don't know if youtube has it up anymore, but, he once tried to take back a call of an all-in claiming he didn't know it was a shove. He also, has CONTINUOUSLY, for years, berated, cursed at, and mocked other players in a manner that is against the rules, and he is essentially never, NEVER penalized for it. That is utter horseshit. In case I'm being too subtle, I've loathed him for decades.
Take it easy, he knows what he's doing
phil vs the frenchman ur refering to xd
Imagine Hellmuth, if he had KK in that situation, not only would he hit the roof but he would of been a few miles shy of landing on Mars.
She’s dancing literally saying I got it LOL
That was one of the most amazing hands ever. But they both gave away too much before the 3rd player decided to call. But all amazing players! The only thing more fun would have been if a King had come on the river and watching the implosions! But I love Hellmuth he is one of the best ever!
I have seen quad aces lose to a Royal
Why shak called that is one of pokers biggest mysteries. He was completely unaware of what the other two players were doing I guess. SMH
Shak is a woman and had AA. How you are completely unaware of this after watching the video is a mystery.
@@zac6499 EXACTLY!
Would have liked to see 4 hearts just to see Phil's reaction.
Shak roaring, "I got it! I got it!" Phil high-fiving after, "Quarter of a second call."
_Yeah, maybe they have Ace/Queen or pocket nines? I call._
Honey can you believe she went all in with Aces ??
Woman jumping around, Honey I got it, I have aces Ritchey with KK: I'm allin 😅
I think he was looking and thinking "If i don't call and get a King, i'm going to be fighting an uphill battle with whoever wins this pot."
If there is ever a time to fold KK it is when facing an all in from a women and then a snap all In by one of the tightest players in tournament history Phill Hellmuth. I understand at some point you have the pot odds to call but at a final table with Millions in ICM you gotta find a way to get it in better
I bet the guy with the K's was thinkin man that was a dumb all on my part. haha
"He called with King King honey"
That's how Zuckerberg decided to try himself in IT
The comment section is full of pros. I'm impressed.
I play for nickles and dimes on a kitchen table, but I never dance with all in before everyone has a chance to bet.
you call in 1/4 of second when you have a pair of ACES what a brave you two !
The chances that Hellmuth didn't have pocket aces were less than zero.
"Ignore live reads, there's no such thing" - Doug Polk
Love the “Most Replayed” feature 😂
Helmuth bragging he called her all in, in a quarter second when he had AA is about as impressive as me bragging about being bald....and Beth Shak...reminds me of Magda from There's something about Mary.
i have folded KK preflop one time, and it was because of action like this (well 3x less ridiculousness), but it was obvious they had AA
how did this KK guy in the video not see what his opponents were doing??
these two commenters absolute best .. so much fun
Beth Shak has quite the poker face
The look on Richie's face! Like, buddy you ain't gotta worry about trips now clown, at least you got that.
Why can't that WSOP shoot the featured tables like this anymore, the footage looks so much better. Higher contrast lighting, lower camera angles, toned out/down audience, and shoulder shot movement in the camera. Looks 10x better than what we get today....
Plot twist:
A 5th Ace comes on the flop and Hellmuth flips the table, leading to true chaos.
Everybody's out of order! - Norman Chadd
2007, 😂😂😂 take me back tonthem years 😢😢😢
'She called me with pocket Aces, honey!'
"I HAVE IT (prances around) !"
"HONEY IT TOOK ME ONE QUARTER OF A SECOND TO CALL!"
yeah you know...
Today, this kind of behavior at the tables leads to a WSOP investigation 😂😂… poker used to be so much more chill
Condolences to the man with the kings and to the poor man married to that woman
Notice at 2:05 Phil Hellmuth having a chat with none other than Phil Ivey about how hand is developing!
How do you not fold kings there? The way Phil and that lady are celebrating and dancing around, they either have aces or they are the best actors in the world.
folding pocket kings pre is a bad move like 99.9% of the time, but this looks like one of the few times it is warranted.
Beth could have a wide variety of holdings when she jams, but when Hellmuth snap rejams, with Brett still to act, and having already raised? That's a rough spot.
Add to that the dancing that Beth was doing, even after Phil rejammed, and I think this is a fold. As Brett, what's the situation you're actually hoping for? Sure, maybe Beth has Queens, or Ace King, but what is Phil snap jamming with? He might call with AK, but he's not snap calling.
A solver probably calls most of the time but in 2007 this seems like a fold.