Isolation milling a PCB with the CNC 3018Pro from Mostics

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  • Alle info on the Project page:
    homofaciens.de/technics-machi...
    Table Of Content:
    00:00 Introduction
    00:55 Assembly
    01:40 Details about the 1080Pro
    05:10 Engraving Acrylic plastic
    06:45 Levelling the surface
    08:59 Isolation milling
    12:03 Drilling holes
    14:11 Laser markings on top
    16:53 Populating the board
    17:25 The finished board / conclusion
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  • @spacewalla3574
    @spacewalla3574 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Terrific review. Our Men’s Shed is buying one of these and I’m so exited. Thanks again for the video.

  • @DavidtheSwarfer
    @DavidtheSwarfer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting, I am about to mill a pcb on my Openbuilds Ox, bCNC has a built in leveller. I plan to use the vbit to spot the holes and then drill them manually with my dremel in a stand. My board is double sided so I have to get the alignment holes right for the second side. The board I am making is going to plug into the Arduino that runs my cnc to allow me to attach my lazer module.

  • @JesseSchoch
    @JesseSchoch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    for the love of god, can someone please buy him a modern soldering iron!

    • @HomoFaciens
      @HomoFaciens  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ...made my day! ;))
      There is a donate button on my pages. So if you mind seeing that old device in future videos, write "Soldering Iron" on the money transfer ;-)

    • @JesseSchoch
      @JesseSchoch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@HomoFaciens I hope you made that thing, what is it? The tip looks 100 years old. Also thanks for the videos, you are an inspiration!!!

    • @HomoFaciens
      @HomoFaciens  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is a cheap 20W soldering iron from a nearby hardware store I grabbed ages ago. When the tip was worn out I replaced it with a piece of thick copper wire, simply because I wanted to go on with my work. And as almost all quick fixes - they last forever ;-)
      Meanwhile I received a donation with "soldering Iron" on the money transfer (was it from you?), so I guess I must now look for a new, better one...

    • @dirkderkdurk
      @dirkderkdurk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HomoFaciens I donated suggesting a TS100, as mine has served me well, but it's up to you, of course!

    • @HomoFaciens
      @HomoFaciens  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many thanks, Dirk! The TS100 is a 12-24V soldering iron. If it works fine with 12V it would definitely be an option as that means I could operate it with a car battery during outdoor missions.

  • @PhG1961
    @PhG1961 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review ! I like it !

  • @pileofstuff
    @pileofstuff 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is an interesting machine. Especially for a similar price to a basic 3D printer.

  • @Bianchi77
    @Bianchi77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video, keep it up, thanks :)

  • @mariomanus3176
    @mariomanus3176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Also bought one of these 3018pro's for PCB milling. The allure of fast easy drilling of holes, doing away with the hassles associated with acetates, and UV processing was just too much to resist😉. However, in reality, as is from the shop, these 3018pro's will never do a good enough and acceptable results, as can be seen in this video. Results as shown in WEGSTR cnc videos are but a dream with these machines. The vibration induced by the spindle alone plays great havoc on the machines inherent lack of structural rigidity resulting in poor traces, broken traces, misaligned holes, broken bits and difficult to reproduce results to name a few. Other vloggers have done rails, gantry and spindle upgrades that are more costly than the machine itself. And the results are just acceptable. If you still want one, be prepared for disappointment. On the upside, its also fun learning these machines.

    • @HomoFaciens
      @HomoFaciens  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, you can't expect the same results from cheap machines as from the expensive ones - that's the main rule of market. You get what you pay for. You can create boards for through hole assembly with a certain trace width and so learn the basics with this machine out of the box and so learn the basics.

  • @rowdyperson6393
    @rowdyperson6393 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have seen one of these for £229 and £289. Are they all the same or would they be different machines. I need one that can both machine wood and lazer wood. Thanks

  • @FOJOM13
    @FOJOM13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. May I suggest you use the v bit to "centre punch" the holes before using the 1 mm drill bit to drill them through?

    • @HomoFaciens
      @HomoFaciens  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, someone else also told me to do so, thanks.

  • @bobdole27
    @bobdole27 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought one the other week

  • @Metroid1890
    @Metroid1890 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    molding clay, that was clever

  • @bertbronson8395
    @bertbronson8395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    TIP: ALWAYS drill your holes FIRST... otherwise a duller bit can rip pads off.

    • @HomoFaciens
      @HomoFaciens  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, thanks, you are not the first to tell me about that. ;-)

  • @hardwareboy5079
    @hardwareboy5079 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice cnc

  • @Berghiker
    @Berghiker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I use FlatCam with the CNC 3018 PRO?

    • @HomoFaciens
      @HomoFaciens  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If FlatCam supports grbl based machines or can export Gcode, that should work.

  • @davevengelen
    @davevengelen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any info on the used feeds and speeds?

    • @HomoFaciens
      @HomoFaciens  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      100mm/min for isolation milling.

  • @eddylespinoy7447
    @eddylespinoy7447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I pre-mill the holes with the V-bit to "-0.2mm"...after that, your 1mm drill won't "walk-away" and you'll get high precision drilling ;-)

    • @HomoFaciens
      @HomoFaciens  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, that's what other comments also suggest. Will do so next time I am routing a PCB.

  • @nikoniko3037
    @nikoniko3037 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What sofftware you use with autolevel?

    • @HomoFaciens
      @HomoFaciens  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A Perl script I have written, that also does the rest of the cutting.

  • @DPTech_workroom
    @DPTech_workroom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did something similar... 🙃

  • @Berghiker
    @Berghiker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How can I change the speed to maximum rpm?

    • @HomoFaciens
      @HomoFaciens  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      By sending the line
      S1000
      to grbl. The spindle pwm can be set fom 0 to 1000.

    • @Berghiker
      @Berghiker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HomoFaciens Not 10 000?

    • @HomoFaciens
      @HomoFaciens  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. Read the grbl wiki to learn more.

  • @GuilhermeGomes2
    @GuilhermeGomes2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think it will handle smd circuitry? I was thinking about applying the idea of drilling in water for pcb as well.. any thoughts on this? Well done video!

    • @HomoFaciens
      @HomoFaciens  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I haven't dealt with smd boards, yet and this CNC won't be capable of doing too fine structures, because of the not so perfect runout. Drilling and routing in water would effectively bind the dust particles.

    • @GuilhermeGomes2
      @GuilhermeGomes2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HomoFaciens any ideas on hacking it to make it better? because that's what I am going to try then

    • @HomoFaciens
      @HomoFaciens  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You'll need to replace the DC motor with a spindle having a clearly better runout.

    • @GuilhermeGomes2
      @GuilhermeGomes2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HomoFaciens I will try to make an adaptation with a electric steering wheel motor..

  • @gedr7664
    @gedr7664 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    can it mill Aluminium (something like 4mm thick)? many thanks!

    • @HomoFaciens
      @HomoFaciens  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rather not out of the box with the weak spindle and the not so good runout, but I haven't tried, yet.

    • @panosaustrian
      @panosaustrian 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i have tried it. it can mill aluminium. the depth must be 0.5 mm with a 4mm flute. feed rate about 3-5 although

    • @mariomanus3176
      @mariomanus3176 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you already tried? It has even difficulty milling PCBs.

  • @salaufer
    @salaufer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You sound like you're 10 feet tall. I want you to narrate my life.

  • @xanamata5386
    @xanamata5386 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    really short nose of the soldering iron .

    • @HomoFaciens
      @HomoFaciens  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That nose is a piece of thick copper wire (the old tip has gone for a long time). It is so short, because that cheap soldering iron has only 20W. With a longer tip, the heat transfer would be too low for the relatively wide copper tracks.

    • @xanamata5386
      @xanamata5386 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HomoFaciens it makes me feel shame , having 2 soldering irons and i have not use one enough , to have a need for a second one .

    • @HomoFaciens
      @HomoFaciens  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use that old, worn out soldering iron not because I could not afford a new one. I just can't throw things in the bin that still work (somehow). So no need to feel ashamed ;-)

    • @xanamata5386
      @xanamata5386 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HomoFaciens my feeling of shame is about my ratio of consumerism to productivity .
      i also dont like to throw things away even if there are not working , i feel that there might be an other use for them or use something from them .
      a brick is a brick when we put it on a wall , but it can be useful and for other things that was not designed for .
      i am sure you can afford a second one or a third and a forth and i liked that you used that one . i find it a good example .