How to get rid of orange peel FOREVER
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ต.ค. 2024
- In this video Dave goes over the many ways you can get rid of your orange peel.
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Hi. Just wanted to say a BIG thanks from the UK.
I've never sprayed paint before in my life but having watched your excellent and informative videos I decided to take a leap of faith and restore my old marked, dinted and battered Yamaha XT500 aluminium petrol tank. I watched many other people but kept on coming back to your advice and help every time. I made some mistakes along the way but you always have a remedy, which was brilliant. I took my time and now Ive saved hundred of £££ and have a filled and restored and painted tank to be proud of. And most of the credit is yours Dave; thanks very much and keep up the good work down under.....John
I wonder how many people never watched this whole video because of the first 2 minutes
Hijo I almost clicked off
Hijo it's annoying to say the least
Hijo only the fools who rather not learn something new or learn a new way of doing something
Yup, I was going to be one of them.
wonder how many of them didn't realize that they can skip the dumb parts by clicking the time line
I love that you showed both the rotary and the DA. Bravo
Thank you for explaining it completely and showing it while you were doing it. After reading thousands of articles now I'm certain I have orange peel LOL. And I know how to get rid of it thank you for your wisdom and intelligent video
brilliant video,painting cars is hard work,you are a clever chap indeed,you really make the paint very shiny.however could i trouble you for your recipe for the orange peel cake,I think I could manage to make it,i'm a good little baker and i've never seen the like of that cake before,it does look yummy.thanks..
Hey I have a lip kit for my car that was painted. But the shop didn't wet sand it. So in a few spots there is some orange peel. Im planning on using 1500grit and then 2000grit. The buffer i have is a variable speed simonize 7". I have a meguiars 2.0 foam pad. Do you think the foam pad i have can do the job? And all the other items i mentioned should be fine for the job?
Thanks! And great video!
He's the best.
Please send more such films with orange peel !!!
Thank you so much. My truck has bad Orange peel or it was in a wreck and repaired I’m going to try this myself I sure hope I don’t hurt the clear coat any.
For 1K acrylic paint we use wool as 1k Acrylic is thermoplastic and melts at a much lower temperature than 2K. Try testing it on a panel and feel the difference, the foam gets it hotter quicker when using a normal buff. The Bigfoot is a different story.. Getting this information from 3 different spray painters with more than 20 years experience.
I'm a student and I'm still learning all my projects have painted recently all got orange peel. Look like really dry spray I don't know, why I'm learning. Thanks for the video I'm going to follow your process to sand and buff it
Another entertaining, useful and informative video - thanks for your efforts - really enjoying these vids, and looking forward to getting my 2K set up operational.
I'm using a firefighters full-face chemical BA rig, running from two 232bar 12l scuba tanks via 10 metre whip hose(about three-four hours breathing time) - so there is zero chance of contaminants and no need to purchase a second compressor, triple coalescing filters etc, or worry about situating the compressor far enough away from 2K icocyenate fumes).
The BA rig ran me just £50 from ebay - and was tested and signed off as good by my bro who is the BA Rig test chap at the local airport fireservice :)
The two scuba bottles I have are from my diving days - I just need a convertor for the cylinder fittings from 300bar style to 232/200bar on rig, and away I go !
Sounds like a great idea!!
Just wondering how you go about refilling the scuba tanks? Do you take them to a scuba shop, will the do a refill no worries even if you don't have the diving cert.?
I briefly thought about using a regular air compressor but that wouldn't even come close, since those tanks need 3,000psi to fill, plus a clean air supply.
ForcedFalcon Hey I know the problem your having but its hard without seeing the problem, It can happen on fibreglass sometimes. Try using an etch primer and spray very light coats. As for your air pressure its always best to spray a test panel to get your gun setup the way you want regardless of what people tell you. 2k clear can go over 1K as long as its a COB 1K this is called (2K basecoat). I went over that in the last video. If its an old style acrylic 1K then 2K clear will cause it to crack. Hope this helps. cheers
You can spray for sure but you cant dig a hole! :-D
Hey Dave, could you use as DA buffer with a wool or foam pad to get rid of the sanding marks?
One man’s orange peel is another’s textured protective coating! 🍊
Awesome vid. The most informative and to the point. Im painting my bike soon and i experimented on a spare fairing with a duplicolor spray can and put on about 3 coates of clear. I started removing the peel with 1500 then 2000 and already i noticed it was taking down the paint to the primer. Question: is the paint output from a hvlp gun higher than that from a spray can?i know u can change the pressure of the gun. But because im using a spray can, would i need to put on additional layers of paint and clear?
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Informative video, thanks. Questions: The bonnet on my classic car has a lttle bit orange peel after having been professionally spray laquered with high quality acrylic paint (no clear coat) about four months ago. Can the bonnet now be safely treated in the same way as shown in your video, ie with 1500/2000 wet or dry sandpaper, then treated with compound and finally polished with wax? Grateful for your thoughts and advise😎.
Yeah mate it will be a bit softer than 2k but wet sand and buff will bring it up like a mirror.
Thank you for a great and entertaining video. Can you please tell me if you can do the same on just the base coat (before clear) because I have me some nast orange on me hood. Thank you, Terry
Hi Dave, I recently painted a new front bumper with spray cans. I applied 3 cans of clear coat. after it dried it part of it doesn't look as glossy. I can see where the clear coat was applied, like the spray pattern. how can I fix this? thank you
You can leave the clear for 24 hrs before wet sanding just to be safe. The longer you let it cure the better. You can also apply a wax after polish
I thought we had too wait so many days before covering the paint with wax or any sealant?
@@tonybologna8522 Yes you are correct... Some say that even several weeks, depending on how the clearcoat cures (material, climate etc.).
Rotary buffer/polishers leave circular mark(swirls ) , So its better to use random orbital sander to sand and polishe , thats what most pros do although some prefer rotary but only for polishing never for sanding
Question do I always start with 1500? I’m worried I might ruin my paint.
I noticed you raised the air pressure to eliminate the orange peel but what air pressure do you usually use
+Kevin Ali you must've missed the video..I'll help ya out..pause the vid at 2:40 and 2:44 and look at the bottom left hand corner of the vid and there is the answer to your question.
Dude's a cheese ball, but knows how to clearly illustrate his tut's.
Thumb's up my guy.
hello and thanks for the great vid.
Can you tell me the name of the compound your using right after you wet sand, the very first compound? it sounds like you say 2pac?
I just received the orange peel
Buff it out
post it back lmaaoooo
What would be the best way to go about painting my honda ruckus engine? could i rattle can it? and still get a nice paint job? its for the engine so it really don't need to be perfect, thanks in advanced!
I gotta questions. My bike fairing have tons of orange peel, does that steps application work ? Andd can I buff it using hand coz I don't have any machine rotary tool.
Ha great video!
I am going to be repainting a small section using spray cans, it doesn't have to look perfect I just want to protect it from rust.
Should I sand it after painting the colour, then put the lacquer/clear coat on then sand again and buff or should I just paint the colour then lacquer then sand and buff at the end?
I've just seen your spray painting myths and misconceptions video. AWESOME!
I painted my car last week and off the gun it was rough in some spots and had minimal shine I tried to fix it with wet sanding but it will not buff out and give it That shine what can I do also can you list the products you used
Thanks for the very useful video. Thinking of getting that 180mm multifunction polisher from SCA. Claims to have "DA function". Hope it's good!
Hi Dave. Watch your vids all the time for inspiration. I am about to paint my bike a satin black. I worry about doing a single stage because you cant sand matte single stage in the event of peel or whatever. I am thinking of going the flattened clear coat route. If I do so, and if I have orange peel, will I be able to sand and buff the flattened clear coat to get rid of the orange peel without getting a gloss finish?
Hello. No with the satin and matt clears or single stage you need to get it perfect the first time. But it's alot easier to apply then the gloss clear
hi good video. just a quick question new to spraying .I've sprayed my car with 2pac paint and got a lot of orange peel now do i put my clear coat on now or buff the orange peel out first then clear coat. again any help will do.
Hi, I paid £3k for a respray on my Transporter a few years ago that has crazy orange peel. I'm looking to cut it back flat and give it a dust over with 2k rattlers to freshen it up. Would you still wet sand to get it flat or use a courser paper on a DA to flat it back? (there are some runs I need to get rid of too).
I also need to sort some rust out on sections so they will go back to bare metal, watched a few of your vids now so if I'm right would I etch prime those sections once treated, then prime, top coat then lacquer? (I assume I don't have to re-prime the sections I don't remove all the top coat on). Then if i have peel after the touch up cut that back and polish...
I will need to remove at least the rear barn doors as they have external hinges that are rusting and the slider for a dent repair, how long would you recommend before refitting (I don't have a heat lamp), one of your vids said leave overnight before handling but I expect door etc. will need longer?
Thanks
Hey mate
Quick question
Can you start with something more aggressive than 1500 grit (if it’s even advisable) for if you have drip marks as well as peel. Or is 1500 aggressive enough and no need?
Thanks love the vids
Loving your vids mate but Can you clear over the orange peel Will you still see the peel
underneath
Helpful vid. Gonna try this on my fender when I respray it.
Yes you can.
see painting acrylics by hand creates more layers though. my industry i have clients that have anywhere between 3-7 mill factory paint. after hand spraying Ive ended up with up to 40 mills on my chameleon pearl Exige. I've burnt through a supra paint with a wool pad which has prompted me to use foam. I've never looked back. I was always taught that the wool fibers were coarser on clear than wool. Im not really worried about heat so much as i am hollograms.
Dave i just finished painted my car this morning using a good quality base and 2k clear. now there are alot of orange peel,some dust and bugs sticking to my clear coat.Question is how long should i wait before i could cut and compound it? so the steps are wetsand, compound, swirl remover, and polish? can i stop at polishing? that alot for replying (clear i used is autocolor 2k with slow gardner)
Hey. Awesome video dude.
If I would spray some parts for my car with 1k paint and use 1k clear.
What should I do if I get orange peel in the base paint "underneath the clear"?
Will the clear hide that or should I buff the base paint before I spray the clear?
Is there a buffer you would recommend for a beginner on the cheap? I want to paint my motorcycle and don't think I want to try and buff it out by hand, even if it's just the tank and fairing it might take forever and I plan on moving up to cars shortly.
For a moto tank try and find a buffer that orbits, something light that you can hold in one hand would be ideal. I use the Bigfoot for tanks but it is a bit expensive.
I don't think the swirl remover will get out those 2000g scratch marks. Give it a go if your not happy with it you can always go to the heavier compound
Your videos are awesome easy to follow I took notes and I'm going to try your method thanks
Is it possible to buff the panel by hand with the buffing compound ?
hey Dave. I love your sense of humor, and your vdo.
I am wondering after you sand with 1500 grit. How can you tell when to stop sanding with 2k grit?
thanks man.. if you keep your hand or block flat on the panel and try and remember where you have sanded then as long as you have given it a good rub over the whole panel it will be fine. Its a bit hard to give a concrete answer on that.
+customspraymods thank you so much for the reply Dave.
keep it up. love you video.
@@lokyinphotography you can apply a powdered guide coat to your 1500 grit scratches.
Guide coat won't stick to the paint if it has not been sanded first.
So, your starting grit (1000, 1200, 1500, depending on how thick the orange Peel is), is actually the longest, hardest part of the sanding process.
Once you block sanded it to 1500, apply the guide coat. The guide coat won't wash off with water, it must be sanded off. This process works awesome.
that you in the motorcycle pics in the intro? Doing trackdays?
I tried this and I have micro scratches in the paint. What is the cause of this and how can I improve next time?
Polish is Paint Protection??? I thought polish was an abrasive like compound, just much finer and the last stage before paint protection? Please someone correct me if I am wrong?
Yes it is but some contain waxes and sealants to help gloss.
So many different buffing pads most this overkill? What about just cutting pad and polishing pad
wool is very coarse and creates lots of heat especially on newer cars with less factory paint. i only use foam or micro fiber pad for my detailing business. Don't know where you got the wool creates less heat.
Can I add a second coat of clear to a painted Car? I think I used to little the first time.
Will the same technique work on a satin finish paint?
Very helpful, thank you!
Which brand/model spray gun u use in this video?
thx for the reply, btw what exact product are you using with the bigfoot?
What products did you use in the end to polish?
another great video man! How many coats of clear would you recommend before sanding? Is one sufficient or should you build it a little thicker before cutting it down?
1?!?!!? LOL
@@alancarriedo7378 thanks for your super helpful reply to an 8 year old post.
Can I do this with my car paint?
Does the Pizza Maker apron come with the compound?
Great job in breaking down all the steps!
The bit about cranking up the psi was worth watching the whole video.
Still fast forward through the gag bit in the beginning though.
what's the speed do you use? i have 1-6 speed on my buffing machine
Is it clear coated or just basic color?
so, could you use the Rupes right after the 2000 grit wet and dry and still get the same results over using a rotary first? Thanks for the great vid!
Very informative video, you cover a lot of stuff others avoid. Thanks
Is this orange 🍊 peal in the base coat or in the clear coat?
would a 2.5HP 40L air compressor be sufficient enough for painting motorcycles?
Does this process work on plastics as well? Specifically on headlights.
+Joseph Serrano yes, just do the buffing steps and fewer of them maybe the last 3. Be sure to use proper headlight/plastic polishing compounds though. You can buy kits with all the necessary pads and polishes, they attach to a common drill usually
Late response but.. Just wetsand your headlights first then apply 3 coats of clear. Then start cutting, buffing and polishing. I got good results from doing this.
can i use meguiars ultimate compound as a cutting compound ?
Yep blended it, then I ate it. That truly got rid of it.
also i noticed when polishing or buffing you kept your buffer very flat which is a no no. you should be on a slight angle
Alex Miller with the rotary style polisher
Yes
What if the orange peel is in the base coat, and can og even bedste that?
2: 19seconds I will never get back in my life.
Liked! Is that the music from DIY Autoschool?
what was the name of the wax you used as a buffer? please let me know. can i use any car wax?
Wax will give the paint work a good shine. If you want to remove sandpaper marks use compound on a buffing machine.
Thank you for your reply. what kind of compound? would you please let me know that?
customspraymods It would be cool to know what kind of compound it was. Is there anything more effective or unique with whatever brand it is versus say, a Turtle Wax or Meguiar's you can purchase in a local store?
Informative and well explained.....Thanks for posting.
Link in the description dude.
what if i'm not even satisfied with the buffed surface that you showed?
you know much about color sanding?
nice video btw!
Hi, do you know any i-net shop in Europe where I could buy DNA Crystal paint?
why not go 1000, to really knock down the peal, then work up to 1500 and 2000?
I just asked similar question, is 1000 ok and safe to use ie not too aggressive, as I also have drip marks to even out
Thanks mate
what's a good cutting compound
I run 15 psi in my tekna copper and lay glass most of the time
Excellent video.
if i get orange peel in my paint should i clear coat it?
One coat of clear would be not enough. At the very least go for 2 coats.
Jeremy Bretel Your Awesome
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Your is possesive. Like "That is your coat"...You're is a contraction of "you are" as in "You're an idiot and this drives me insane"
chickenwingbro nope... back to school
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Loved the first 2 minutes
isnt it the pressure that creates orange peel?? how is more pressure the answer to reducing orange peel??
Very old video but nonetheless very informative and educational. Detailer here, with little experience in the wet-sanding field, and no experience in the painting field. I love paint correction and may even have to get into this field instead.
Hope you Jacob are NOT too old yourself, nor too set in your ways with a poor vision to start anew now...because sometimes change for the good, and an honest conversion from doing old things will save a man's soul, before he parks his car away one final time like we all will , just like they say way south, Latin American way ...Shema!!!
Excellent tips to get rid from ORANGE PEAL
make a video about grapefruit peel
how to get rid of orange peel......learn how to paint ...
doc - Ah yes, the ultimate advice: Git gud. [eye rolling intensifies]
For real.. that's the kind of orange peel you get fired for...
You don't need to be a genius to paint stupid car, any way, you are a good painter
You need a good gun and correct nozzle size($$$), suitable pressure, correct thinner and reducer based the temperature, etc. If you do it for the first time, probably you will mess it. There is a lot of factors.. Usually we learn from out mistakes.
How long do I need to leave my panel before I can wet sand and buff the orange-peel I have some I painted today and some I painted last weekend
DSM CHICKS if it's 1k acrylic leave it a few days. If it's 2k you can sand and buff after a day of not baked
@@customspraymods how do I know if it's 1K or 2K
Hey guys. I love all your vids. I have 1 huge question I can't seem to find an answer for on your vids.
Please, please tell me what to do if I have orange peel in my paint BEFORE I even clear coat?
Just clear it then follow this guide.. Generally try not to touch the basecoat before clear.
Thanks heaps guys. Could you possibly take 2 minutes and explain how the orange peel in the base coat disappears when you clear/sand/polish? Please cause I'm going fucking crazy.
Once you spray the clear over the base, it will follow the peel from the basecoat. Then when you sand and buff it. The peel will all level out.
Polish isn't a protectant though. Wax is.
Cameron Taylor you're an idiot
Dave is a spray painter and lives in a nice house. I want to become a spray painter now.
i hope one day you and gunman join together and make a good paint project
Great but how do you get rid of potato mites?