Sidious seems to really like followers that are sith-like but not real sith that can dethrone him. Thats something he consistently does, Grievous, Tarkin etc...
@@thetruth4654 No, Sidious was undoubtedly a Sith. Following the rule of 2 is not a must to be a sith. Most Sith before Bane did not follow it and in legends Darth Krayt stopped following it
Yeah, like they should do an origin were Sidious had met gravest first before he passed him on to dooku. Only he would recognize his true potential. Then later, after grievous his death, I would imagine sidious still has some further use for him like he secretly cloned him while he cloned him back and returned after he was defeated by Vader. Like grieving is going to return the favor for him.
Grevious was the “last man standing” basically once Dooku was dead as far as the Separitists go…that says something about how strong and smart he was. Kinda…
Genuinely one of the most formidable duelists ever. I always thought he was so cool as a kid, and even now I think he’s awesome. Just imagine if he was force sensitive. Admittedly his power would be limited from the lack of biological mass, but even just the slightest bit to enhance his senses and maybe let him use basic abilities like force push, pull, or choke.
@@blacksabbath5300 I felt, and still feel, the same as you! I like his character, and there’s plenty more to him out there that’s really cool to read about if you’re into that kind of thing. The movies definitely don’t touch how big of a character he was. Being trained by Dooku in fighting with a lightsaber definitely made him really strong, force sensitive or not. He was so fast he was basically as quick as someone that is force sensitive! I’m such a nerd about him…😂. Star Wars in general honestly! I grew up seeing the original trilogy. But I love the prequels more and more every year! Because of characters like Grievous!
@@stop736 I’ve been recently getting back to it a little more. I just haven’t felt the same about Star Wars since Disney told us the best parts aren’t canon anymore and made so much garbage that feels like fanfic. But one detail I liked about grevious is I believe it was mentioned somewhere that between his training and cybernetics, he could break down the exact lightsaber form and specific use of it that his opponent was fighting with and essentially adjust to perfectly counter them by mimicking a counter form or using a style unlike traditional lightsaber forms. Just imagine how insane it would’ve been if they had made several models just like grevious. Like, what do you even do when there’s 5 grevious replica on the other side? No blaster bolt is touching that. Most jedi can’t fight one, much less multiple. Heavy artillery? He’s so fast he could likely avoid it. And then considering he’s mostly cybernetic, modified versions of that frame are a possibility too. Imagine a stealth variant that could be an assassin, a heavily armored cortosis frame, one with blasters and flame throwers, etc. I just think the non generic kind of cybernetic idea with him was underused in general.
for a jedi who hasnt had a lightsaber duel since training a huge cyborg unnatural quick with 4 blades coming at you also a bunch of highly skilled droids with force pikes is honestly scary. Dooku was the separatist leader but the general was the face.
He was a Jedi killer, one who loved instilling fear even into their Order's more powerful Jedi. He was a General, one who most certainly struck fear into the hearts of the Republic, a tactician with a solid mind and capacity for leadership.
Dooku was the embodiment of the old dog trying to learn new tricks. He is biased and has a pre-conceived style of his own. While this is good in some cases because he can understand a broader vision of The Force, it is also his main limitation because he cannot fully submerge himself into the dark side, which is basically do whatever needs to be done to gain power.
Listening to all this... can almost hear Sideous puting on love songs an secretly watching Grevious on secret monitoring screens.. like some sorta "Robot Chicken" episode.
Grievous' using lightsabers and having a collection was a big slap in the face and mockery of the Jedi, Sidious no doubt loved that too especially since he did not care for lightsabers in the first place
@@majora919 Hard disagree, too many people underrate him in my view. He's my favourite Star Wars character and my second favourite fictional character so I'm biased.
@@tigertank06 It's important to remember that Star Wars is a movie and Obi-wan is a protagonist. Of course he beat Grievous at the end of the Clone Wars. It doesn't mean I automatically like him more.
If I had a nickle for every one of sidious' acolytes who ended up a cyborg I'd have 3 nickles it's not a lot but it's really weird that it happened 3 times (4 in the Force Unleashed dlc)
It certainly wouldn't change events any. I don't believe Grievous would love the idea of knowing Sidious was intending on throwing him away once the Clone Wars were over, but he's also smart enough to know that staying with the CIS is his best opportunity to do the only thing that he still lives for: burning down the republic and killing Jedi. Probably begrudgingly stays on and occasionally tests Sidious with bouts of insubordination where he can, but else wise still winds up dead by the end of the Clone Wars one way or another.
imagine if he was force sensitive.. Only the strongest fighers in the galaxy could do as much as hope to beat a jedi and grievous fought and killed them regularly
That's because Duku wasn't really a villain. He did crazy things for sure but he did what he thought was going to really right the universe. I'd say he was more of an anti hero for lack of a better term.
@@IveytheGrey exactly that's really it he just had ideas for how the Galaxy should be ran and believed the darkside was a gateway to that hell he thought that Anikan would capture him then when the war ended he would be released and would hold great political power
Makes sense as Grevious is the ultimate weapon of the Sith during the clone wars. Allowing Sidious and Dooku, through him to make use of a terrifying and brutal monster of war, committing atrocities left right and centre as he whittled down the ranks of the Jedi in the process of trying to lead the CIS to victory.
@@GeneralGrievous69420 grievous i don't have a crush on you i got enough bitches. when i told u to kidnap me that not what i meant (there were no other hints)
Sidious was just trying to make the perfect army, droids < grevious < jedi < force-resistant clones. Droids are only good at one thing, grevious has his own desires, jedi are too passive, and force resistant clones are disposable and can win with numbers
Imagine before Dooku's final battle with Anakin, Sidious commented that Grievous was more of a Sith than he. "Prove me wrong." A short time later Dooku achieves the Mortal Kombat equivalent of the "Friendship" alternative to the end of a fight. So when Anakin has Dooku beaten, all Palpatine has left to say is "Finish Him!"
Grievous is my favorite alongside sidious. I have a huge portrait of grievous on my left arm underneath an even bigger portrait of emperor tenerbrae of swtor
Palpatine seems to love cybernetics, scientific advancements and non force sensitive beings using sith ideology palpatine loved how grievous was what he saw as the perfect warrior with the sith ideology and faster movements than organic actions only mad possible with the highly advanced cybernetics grievous had
this acctualy makes you feel bad for grievous. he would have been a lot differnt as a general if not for his brain beeing alterd. and whats even worse the accident was a bomb planted by either doku, sidious or one of the factions of what will be the seperatis caunsel
Maybe because unlike count Dooku and the other separatists council. Grievous acted out like his right hand, man. Because I have a lot in common they’re both unmerciful they’re both cowards they both have savage minds they don’t care about anyone but themselves . And at least grievous seems loyal to Sidious and doesn’t show any sympathy for dooku it’s like he doesn’t seem care whether he’s been betrayed or not. He doesn’t even care about Dooku either.
It just shows that Grievous wasn’t a monster, just a puppet of many of Sidious henchmen’s. Sidious took away Grievous free will & honor & use him as a rage trigger tool against the Jedi. Sidious was the real monster of all Star Wars characters, because he focus on power.
........me and sidius would potentially be frenemies with similar interests but opposing views XD Only two ways Grievous could have been more terrifying are 1) give gim the saber crustals that create after images, causing keeping track of eight lightsabers, with 4 being after images or such, would be extremely difficult, and 2) force infusion being used on his mechanical parts (or at least the white armor portions).
The real question is what would have happened if Grivous had escaped the fight with Obi-Wan or even managed to defeat him would Sidious have kept him around in the empire with himself and Vader?
Palpatine would probably have altered his cybernetics so that no one recognize him and use him as one of his many shadow assassins . ( probably would've installed a self destruction device too ) Grievous is extremely convenient for palpatine as he is unrecognizable so while vader can be the day time terror that enforce the emperor's will , grievous could have been the false flag operator for either silencing the opposition while incriminating an other or straight up create a problem that only the empire can fix . He also serve as a jedi council master level fighter that is only devoted to him and can slaughter rebels as effectively as vader without the mobility problems .
What wasn't to like he killed jedi at will. Something Palpatine couldn't do at the time . He was a tool and a damm good one at that ans most importantly a very disposable one at that.
Grievous is a plot hole. A huge plot hole. Why would Darth Vader not look like that or at least be able to move and be as powerful, physically, than that. Sidious liked and respected Grievous? Then why did he slap Anakin, someone he claimed to admire way more, in that costume.
because the whole point of Darth Vader in terms of the robot suit Sidious had him designed to be strong but not too strong so he couldn't overthrow him remember from the moment Vader lost his remaining limbs he was nothing but a tool until Sidious found a replacement apprentice Vader's suit was specially designed to be specifically weak against force lightning because that was Sidious main form of attack force lightning the reason this was not a problem for Grievous is he was not force sensitive so posed little threat to Sidious but Vader with a properly designed suit would have been a threat
Vader was just burnt. Grievous was some organs in a bag. Also, Vader still needs his body to use The Force, whereas Grievous was never Force-Sensitive in the first place.
Dooku and Vader were more similar than not. They were both elitists about the Force and those who wield it, they respected and were absolute masters of lightsaber combat, and they both hated cybernetics (yes, Vader abhorred the pain and claustrophobia his armor gave him. Plus his injuries had severely weakened his connection to the force). Palpatine on the other hand, had no other standard than power itself. He didn’t worshiped the Force in any way, he just saw it as a tool for power. So he knew that things like the Death Star and Grievous were extraordinary, even if they were not influenced directly by the force.
In Legends Sidious ever only saw The Mereks as people who could be his equals in full potentials and The Skywalkers And The Solos within Leias Line as being the only ones to surpass him as well as Abeloth while he saw Yoda as a near equal in potential while Dooku was moderately below him on potential as slightly below Yoda in that while Dooku was a little above Plagueis and Mauls potential being a good deal below Plagueis but a good amount higher then Ventresses yeah.
>dislikes the use of four light sabers >dislikes anakin getting a new hand instead of learning to fight with one hand so would he have disliked a alien that naturally has more than two arms using multiple light sabers? and i really wonder what he would have said if he wasnt executed on the ship and didnt have any hands anymore. would he just have accepted his fate and gave up und light saber combat?
This is great analysis. But also disgusting. What Dooku did to Grievous. Grievous was formidable opponent. Tactician and strong. But he was also animal. I think Dooku has right view of things.Not about Anakin. I think that Mon Calamari was a monster.May the Force be with you too. Have amazing day too😀
Sidious was right to think more open mind when it came to may different forms of power then Dooku but he was wrong about not caring the process for the Sith like Darth Bane it is journey and destination to power that matter while Jedi beleive that the journey while Sidious just only cared about the destination.
If grevious didnt die i bet he would have still been serving into the era of the empire. He just needed more capable soldiers. Remember he took over his home planet from civil war as the best warrior. I dont underestimate him especially if sidious took off the leash.
Lets be honest with the force the emperor would probably have replaced or at least made both of them try to kill one another as i always suspected this. 10:12
If sidious hated lightsabers why didn’t he get vader to focus more on the force than lightsabers? Anakin has always preferred lightsabers over the force even as vader even tho he says you don’t know the power of the dark side he never bothered to learn how to do anything but the basics of force abilities such as increasing his physical abilities
If I could revise Star Wars, it would be the following: Shmi is a Jedi, not some low slave. It is unnecessary since Luke's first spot light is on Tatooine. I would say Shmi is originally from Tatooine and that offers some sort of connection between Luke's uncle and Shmi. And I'll even make Shmi someone who came from slavery herself, but I wouldn't make her a slave as there is more material having her be a Jedi for why Anakin eventually leaves the Order or betrays it. I would make Padme a Sith and the apprentice of Sidious who defeats Tyranus. Not Anakin. Anakin is brought to the Dark Side first by seeing his mother get abandoned by the Jedi, then drawn closer to Padme in which she works with Sidious to push Anakin further from the Council even while his mother had previously made Anakin loyal to the Jedi. After falling in love with Padme and finding out she was a Sith and responsible for the death of his mother, he ends up choking her to the point that she is dying while in labor. This is when Anakin faces Obi-wan and loses while Padme gives birth. Effort to save Padme proves fruitless as the extent of the force utilized to break her windpipe is too severe and there is not enough time to put Padme in stasis so she can worked on in having a cloned replacement. She is barely able to use the force to sustain herself as she gives birth before she dies. It is the fact Anakin killed Padme that ultimately turns him to the Dark Side not the dream of losing her. He tries to honor her memory by turning to the Dark Side as she had done. It is his love for Padme and his regret for killing her that ties him too strongly to it as Darth Vader. Also it is defeating Grievous that required him to become cybernetic and become the Darth Vader we know. After Padme's death and Anakin becoming Darth Vader and Sidious's new apprentice, Grievous goes rogue as being a monster without Jedi to hunt makes him a threat that must be dealt with. However, Anakin cannot beat Grievous each time he encounters and barely survives, losing a limb and choosing a cybernetic replacement to better enhance his physical abilities to match the Droid General. Do know it was Grievous that hunted down many of the Jedi until the Inquisitor Program is established which wasn't intended by Vader to kill Jedi, but saving force sensitives them by making them useful for the Empire. I would keep Grievous as his 2003 self. He cannot use the force, which is his only weakness, but physically he will dominate any foe unless they exclusively rely on it. This is why Sidious speaks as he does about a light saber. I would also make it possible to regrow limbs instead of gaining a cybernetic, although it is possible to have a cybernetic limb, it is not an automatic replacement for one that is lost. Typically, you'll just have a new one grown and then attached to your body via surgery. It should be fine since it your own limb biologically identical as such. You have to choose to have cybernetic parts I would also keep the Clone Troopers but also include Storm Troopers as both are a necessary function for the Empire after it transitioned from the Republic. Heck, I would even include Battle Droids. There is a value in diversity given it is effective in having such a variety of soldiers. Clone troopers act as the commandos and type soldiers in a squad. The Storm Troopers are not as good, but don't have to be. It is sort of an open door to become better should you survive long enough, but since Storm Troopers are never on par with Clone Troopers, they always fall short of reaching that threshold, but this is never made apparent so the availability of Storm Troopers is always present and because it is an ever present occupation with the "promise" of a greater life in the Empire, there aren't as many rebellions and issues in the Empire. Droids provide functions that Storm Troopers and Clone Troopers are unable to do and are more expendable offering a false premise that Storm Troopers are protected and valued by the Empire as there is something beneath them. Just something so inexpensive to mass produce that it doesn't matter in the long scheme of things, only the trick of psychology placed on the masses that they matter and have a future if they serve the Empire. Talent in the Empire is always given an officer position rather than becoming an Enlisted Storm Trooper. Do know there are no enlisted doing any other job but being a Storm Trooper, they have droids to do everything else that related to what I had just stated. So there is also that quality of Starship Troopers in which you must become part of the military to gain citizenship, but if you don't have talent, you will become one of the infantry (which for the Empire are the Storm Troopers).
Sidious seems to really like followers that are sith-like but not real sith that can dethrone him. Thats something he consistently does, Grievous, Tarkin etc...
Sidious wasn`t a real Sith himself, he didn`t abide by the rule of two.
and he intended for the Sith to end with himself.
@@thetruth4654 No, Sidious was undoubtedly a Sith.
Following the rule of 2 is not a must to be a sith. Most Sith before Bane did not follow it and in legends Darth Krayt stopped following it
I kinda wish we'd got to see more Sidious and Grievous interaction after listening to this.
Yeah, like they should do an origin were Sidious had met gravest first before he passed him on to dooku. Only he would recognize his true potential. Then later, after grievous his death, I would imagine sidious still has some further use for him like he secretly cloned him while he cloned him back and returned after he was defeated by Vader. Like grieving is going to return the favor for him.
Grevious was the “last man standing” basically once Dooku was dead as far as the Separitists go…that says something about how strong and smart he was. Kinda…
Genuinely one of the most formidable duelists ever. I always thought he was so cool as a kid, and even now I think he’s awesome. Just imagine if he was force sensitive. Admittedly his power would be limited from the lack of biological mass, but even just the slightest bit to enhance his senses and maybe let him use basic abilities like force push, pull, or choke.
@@blacksabbath5300 I felt, and still feel, the same as you! I like his character, and there’s plenty more to him out there that’s really cool to read about if you’re into that kind of thing. The movies definitely don’t touch how big of a character he was.
Being trained by Dooku in fighting with a lightsaber definitely made him really strong, force sensitive or not. He was so fast he was basically as quick as someone that is force sensitive!
I’m such a nerd about him…😂. Star Wars in general honestly! I grew up seeing the original trilogy. But I love the prequels more and more every year! Because of characters like Grievous!
@@stop736 I’ve been recently getting back to it a little more. I just haven’t felt the same about Star Wars since Disney told us the best parts aren’t canon anymore and made so much garbage that feels like fanfic. But one detail I liked about grevious is I believe it was mentioned somewhere that between his training and cybernetics, he could break down the exact lightsaber form and specific use of it that his opponent was fighting with and essentially adjust to perfectly counter them by mimicking a counter form or using a style unlike traditional lightsaber forms. Just imagine how insane it would’ve been if they had made several models just like grevious. Like, what do you even do when there’s 5 grevious replica on the other side? No blaster bolt is touching that. Most jedi can’t fight one, much less multiple. Heavy artillery? He’s so fast he could likely avoid it. And then considering he’s mostly cybernetic, modified versions of that frame are a possibility too. Imagine a stealth variant that could be an assassin, a heavily armored cortosis frame, one with blasters and flame throwers, etc. I just think the non generic kind of cybernetic idea with him was underused in general.
He liked him because he killed jedi
The kinda s the thing..
for a jedi who hasnt had a lightsaber duel since training a huge cyborg unnatural quick with 4 blades coming at you also a bunch of highly skilled droids with force pikes is honestly scary. Dooku was the separatist leader but the general was the face.
He was a Jedi killer, one who loved instilling fear even into their Order's more powerful Jedi.
He was a General, one who most certainly struck fear into the hearts of the Republic, a tactician with a solid mind and capacity for leadership.
Who needs cheep tricks like the force when you have Grievous.
Sidious' best attack: LED Light Show
Grievous' best move: SPINNY BLADE WALL! (Machiavellian)
There’s this tragic element to Grievous that I think really needs to be brought to light in more mainstream media.
Dooku was the embodiment of the old dog trying to learn new tricks. He is biased and has a pre-conceived style of his own. While this is good in some cases because he can understand a broader vision of The Force, it is also his main limitation because he cannot fully submerge himself into the dark side, which is basically do whatever needs to be done to gain power.
Listening to all this... can almost hear Sideous puting on love songs an secretly watching Grevious on secret monitoring screens.. like some sorta "Robot Chicken" episode.
Grievous' using lightsabers and having a collection was a big slap in the face and mockery of the Jedi, Sidious no doubt loved that too especially since he did not care for lightsabers in the first place
Fell in love? What fifty shades of kyber crystals is this??? 🧐
No robo
@@forsageboneI saw what you did there bro😏
Some Wattpad-type shit /j
I ship it
Force above the ping-ponging between Grievous slander and Grievous glow-up on this channel is so bipolar.
Because sometimes people overrate him
@@majora919 Hard disagree, too many people underrate him in my view. He's my favourite Star Wars character and my second favourite fictional character so I'm biased.
@@PurposefullyIneloquentBut he got taken apart by Obi-Wan?
@@tigertank06 It's important to remember that Star Wars is a movie and Obi-wan is a protagonist. Of course he beat Grievous at the end of the Clone Wars. It doesn't mean I automatically like him more.
@@PurposefullyIneloquentthe same here man. It's so sad what they did to him
Word around the empire is Sidious was in fact a Robo-SexuaI. He almost left it all behind so him and Grievous could live angerly ever after.
If I had a nickle for every one of sidious' acolytes who ended up a cyborg I'd have 3 nickles it's not a lot but it's really weird that it happened 3 times
(4 in the Force Unleashed dlc)
Grevious is simply fascinating.
Grevious deserved more he was such a cool character
Grevious is one of my favorite villains of all time
General Grievous = Blood Knight
I LOVE GRIEVOUS THATS ALL
Everyone loves grievous
Damm i didn't know palpatine was gay
I don't think grievous would care if he knew the truth about sidious. He would be happy to be part of the downfall of the Jedi.
It certainly wouldn't change events any. I don't believe Grievous would love the idea of knowing Sidious was intending on throwing him away once the Clone Wars were over, but he's also smart enough to know that staying with the CIS is his best opportunity to do the only thing that he still lives for: burning down the republic and killing Jedi. Probably begrudgingly stays on and occasionally tests Sidious with bouts of insubordination where he can, but else wise still winds up dead by the end of the Clone Wars one way or another.
“Grievous is a pretty cool guy. He kills Jedi and doesn’t afraid of anything.”
-Palpatine’s exact words, probably
imagine if he was force sensitive.. Only the strongest fighers in the galaxy could do as much as hope to beat a jedi and grievous fought and killed them regularly
Bro!!! I love General Grievous too!!!
Lord Sidious should have multiple Grevious's built , but with cerebral control chips .
That's not story of skywalker saga. Even crackhead Kennedy knew this in 2011😂
So this is about the 2003 clone wars series grievous lol. That grievous was a beast
Grievous a much better villain than Dooku, imo.
That's because Duku wasn't really a villain. He did crazy things for sure but he did what he thought was going to really right the universe. I'd say he was more of an anti hero for lack of a better term.
@@IveytheGreyhe was a villain just a weak one compared to his master
@@IveytheGrey
exactly that's really it he just had ideas for how the Galaxy should be ran and believed the darkside was a gateway to that hell he thought that Anikan would capture him then when the war ended he would be released and would hold great political power
@@dascrazy7400no he wasn’t 😂
Makes sense as Grevious is the ultimate weapon of the Sith during the clone wars. Allowing Sidious and Dooku, through him to make use of a terrifying and brutal monster of war, committing atrocities left right and centre as he whittled down the ranks of the Jedi in the process of trying to lead the CIS to victory.
Grievous made a fine addition to his collection of pawns.
I was not expecting to see this 💀
Wow Grievous was the last one standing. He outlived Dooku
U know me so well even better then i know myself
Hey palpatine be honest do you have a crush on me? I wont be mad
@@GeneralGrievous69420 grievous i don't have a crush on you i got enough bitches.
when i told u to kidnap me that not what i meant
(there were no other hints)
I wish Sidious reveals he secretly cloned grievous and then later he cloned him back to life in return after he was destroyed by Vader.
Sidious was just trying to make the perfect army, droids < grevious < jedi < force-resistant clones. Droids are only good at one thing, grevious has his own desires, jedi are too passive, and force resistant clones are disposable and can win with numbers
Imagine before Dooku's final battle with Anakin, Sidious commented that Grievous was more of a Sith than he. "Prove me wrong." A short time later Dooku achieves the Mortal Kombat equivalent of the "Friendship" alternative to the end of a fight. So when Anakin has Dooku beaten, all Palpatine has left to say is "Finish Him!"
Grievous is my favorite alongside sidious. I have a huge portrait of grievous on my left arm underneath an even bigger portrait of emperor tenerbrae of swtor
Palpatine seems to love cybernetics, scientific advancements and non force sensitive beings using sith ideology palpatine loved how grievous was what he saw as the perfect warrior with the sith ideology and faster movements than organic actions only mad possible with the highly advanced cybernetics grievous had
Imagine of grievous was force sensitive 🥶
The Jedi would stand a chance 💀🫡
4:36 I can hear Mr Krabs walk
this acctualy makes you feel bad for grievous. he would have been a lot differnt as a general if not for his brain beeing alterd. and whats even worse the accident was a bomb planted by either doku, sidious or one of the factions of what will be the seperatis caunsel
Interesting title…. Can’t wait to hear this one 😮
basically for Palpatine the means justify the end
I wish he kept his honor. It would have made him a much more interesting character
Maybe because unlike count Dooku and the other separatists council. Grievous acted out like his right hand, man. Because I have a lot in common they’re both unmerciful they’re both cowards they both have savage minds they don’t care about anyone but themselves . And at least grievous seems loyal to Sidious and doesn’t show any sympathy for dooku it’s like he doesn’t seem care whether he’s been betrayed or not. He doesn’t even care about Dooku either.
Come on Disney let Palpatine secretly clone Grievous
How Romantic
*literally removes honor and nobility from his brain*
*what the heck, he fights dishonorably*
Sidious would you force storm in you for using his name and love in the same sentence
It just shows that Grievous wasn’t a monster, just a puppet of many of Sidious henchmen’s. Sidious took away Grievous free will & honor & use him as a rage trigger tool against the Jedi. Sidious was the real monster of all Star Wars characters, because he focus on power.
........me and sidius would potentially be frenemies with similar interests but opposing views XD
Only two ways Grievous could have been more terrifying are 1) give gim the saber crustals that create after images, causing keeping track of eight lightsabers, with 4 being after images or such, would be extremely difficult, and 2) force infusion being used on his mechanical parts (or at least the white armor portions).
The real question is what would have happened if Grivous had escaped the fight with Obi-Wan or even managed to defeat him would Sidious have kept him around in the empire with himself and Vader?
Palpatine would probably have altered his cybernetics so that no one recognize him and use him as one of his many shadow assassins . ( probably would've installed a self destruction device too )
Grievous is extremely convenient for palpatine as he is unrecognizable so while vader can be the day time terror that enforce the emperor's will , grievous could have been the false flag operator for either silencing the opposition while incriminating an other or straight up create a problem that only the empire can fix .
He also serve as a jedi council master level fighter that is only devoted to him and can slaughter rebels as effectively as vader without the mobility problems .
I think he already talked about that scenario in that video like 8-9 years ago
*Reads video title* I beg your pardon?
where do you find such knowledge, you have more info about the universe than the hidden path, great holocrons
Grievous was a big dumb scary death machine. Just like Vader & the Death Star. All tyrants love big dumb scary death machines.
What wasn't to like he killed jedi at will. Something Palpatine couldn't do at the time . He was a tool and a damm good one at that ans most importantly a very disposable one at that.
when you think about every fallen jedi means a freed clone division for the more powerful jedi all of a sudden...
exactly he was near perfect for what his purpose was
Probably a little to good @kurtpunchesthings2411
@@alainhernandez8767 yes this is why Palpatine had if i remember correctly a Kill Switch to kill him
Sid had a backup plan for everything it was great. @kurtpunchesthings2411
Grievous is a plot hole. A huge plot hole. Why would Darth Vader not look like that or at least be able to move and be as powerful, physically, than that. Sidious liked and respected Grievous? Then why did he slap Anakin, someone he claimed to admire way more, in that costume.
Theirs a video this channel has explaining it and it’s a very believable reason
I think it was that sidous limited vaders ability to not be overthrown by him but I am unsure.
because the whole point of Darth Vader in terms of the robot suit Sidious had him designed to be strong but not too strong so he couldn't overthrow him
remember from the moment Vader lost his remaining limbs he was nothing but a tool until Sidious found a replacement apprentice
Vader's suit was specially designed to be specifically weak against force lightning because that was Sidious main form of attack force lightning
the reason this was not a problem for Grievous is he was not force sensitive so posed little threat to Sidious
but Vader with a properly designed suit would have been a threat
Vader was just burnt. Grievous was some organs in a bag.
Also, Vader still needs his body to use The Force, whereas Grievous was never Force-Sensitive in the first place.
Dooku and Vader were more similar than not. They were both elitists about the Force and those who wield it, they respected and were absolute masters of lightsaber combat, and they both hated cybernetics (yes, Vader abhorred the pain and claustrophobia his armor gave him. Plus his injuries had severely weakened his connection to the force). Palpatine on the other hand, had no other standard than power itself. He didn’t worshiped the Force in any way, he just saw it as a tool for power. So he knew that things like the Death Star and Grievous were extraordinary, even if they were not influenced directly by the force.
Is this finally going to cover why sidious just didn’t make himself a robot body with his blood in it
In Legends Sidious ever only saw The Mereks as people who could be his equals in full potentials and The Skywalkers And The Solos within Leias Line as being the only ones to surpass him as well as Abeloth while he saw Yoda as a near equal in potential while Dooku was moderately below him on potential as slightly below Yoda in that while Dooku was a little above Plagueis and Mauls potential being a good deal below Plagueis but a good amount higher then Ventresses yeah.
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I would like to see the jedi and sith who invented the different forms and what led them to the form
Hate that he was nerfed so heavily
>dislikes the use of four light sabers
>dislikes anakin getting a new hand instead of learning to fight with one hand
so would he have disliked a alien that naturally has more than two arms using multiple light sabers? and i really wonder what he would have said if he wasnt executed on the ship and didnt have any hands anymore. would he just have accepted his fate and gave up und light saber combat?
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This is great analysis. But also disgusting. What Dooku did to Grievous. Grievous was formidable opponent. Tactician and strong. But he was also animal. I think Dooku has right view of things.Not about Anakin. I think that Mon Calamari was a monster.May the Force be with you too. Have amazing day too😀
Sidious was right to think more open mind when it came to may different forms of power then Dooku but he was wrong about not caring the process for the Sith like Darth Bane it is journey and destination to power that matter while Jedi beleive that the journey while Sidious just only cared about the destination.
Why didn’t he just ask him out?
Wasn’t counting dooku raised in the 1 percent? That explains his pompous nature
General grievious may not be a force user, sith or jedi. Nevertheless, he is a perfection of a warrior that serves the darkside.
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Hey wave what if there was somebody who could only touch the dark side and not the light side.
Sidious really did love grievous, it’s why the only part of Grievous body is plastic is his Butthole
Can you do a what if moment if anakin didn't kill count doku
If grevious didnt die i bet he would have still been serving into the era of the empire. He just needed more capable soldiers. Remember he took over his home planet from civil war as the best warrior. I dont underestimate him especially if sidious took off the leash.
Lets be honest with the force the emperor would probably have replaced or at least made both of them try to kill one another as i always suspected this. 10:12
anyone know the name of the track that plays in this vid?
If sidious hated lightsabers why didn’t he get vader to focus more on the force than lightsabers? Anakin has always preferred lightsabers over the force even as vader even tho he says you don’t know the power of the dark side he never bothered to learn how to do anything but the basics of force abilities such as increasing his physical abilities
i prefer more Shin Hati please 💗💗
Note imagine I'd he had been Force Sensitive!!!😎
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Did Sidious do anything to Anakin’s brain after Mustafar?
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Wasn't the whole point of sidious manipulating vaders cybernetics to limit him?
And obi one killed him in minutes I swear obi one is the most dangerous jedi alive
Palpatine x Grievous
Duely noted
Day 413 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
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Can we get some Warhammer 40k
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My thoughts are… you have nothing else to talk about. 😑
This title sounds like J.K Rowling went back and changed some lore for woke clout lmao
oh yeah sidious is totally gay for grievous, everyone knows that.
Stupendous wave lost the plot with this one boys
What do you mean?
If I could revise Star Wars, it would be the following:
Shmi is a Jedi, not some low slave. It is unnecessary since Luke's first spot light is on Tatooine. I would say Shmi is originally from Tatooine and that offers some sort of connection between Luke's uncle and Shmi. And I'll even make Shmi someone who came from slavery herself, but I wouldn't make her a slave as there is more material having her be a Jedi for why Anakin eventually leaves the Order or betrays it.
I would make Padme a Sith and the apprentice of Sidious who defeats Tyranus. Not Anakin. Anakin is brought to the Dark Side first by seeing his mother get abandoned by the Jedi, then drawn closer to Padme in which she works with Sidious to push Anakin further from the Council even while his mother had previously made Anakin loyal to the Jedi. After falling in love with Padme and finding out she was a Sith and responsible for the death of his mother, he ends up choking her to the point that she is dying while in labor. This is when Anakin faces Obi-wan and loses while Padme gives birth. Effort to save Padme proves fruitless as the extent of the force utilized to break her windpipe is too severe and there is not enough time to put Padme in stasis so she can worked on in having a cloned replacement. She is barely able to use the force to sustain herself as she gives birth before she dies. It is the fact Anakin killed Padme that ultimately turns him to the Dark Side not the dream of losing her. He tries to honor her memory by turning to the Dark Side as she had done. It is his love for Padme and his regret for killing her that ties him too strongly to it as Darth Vader. Also it is defeating Grievous that required him to become cybernetic and become the Darth Vader we know. After Padme's death and Anakin becoming Darth Vader and Sidious's new apprentice, Grievous goes rogue as being a monster without Jedi to hunt makes him a threat that must be dealt with. However, Anakin cannot beat Grievous each time he encounters and barely survives, losing a limb and choosing a cybernetic replacement to better enhance his physical abilities to match the Droid General. Do know it was Grievous that hunted down many of the Jedi until the Inquisitor Program is established which wasn't intended by Vader to kill Jedi, but saving force sensitives them by making them useful for the Empire.
I would keep Grievous as his 2003 self. He cannot use the force, which is his only weakness, but physically he will dominate any foe unless they exclusively rely on it. This is why Sidious speaks as he does about a light saber.
I would also make it possible to regrow limbs instead of gaining a cybernetic, although it is possible to have a cybernetic limb, it is not an automatic replacement for one that is lost. Typically, you'll just have a new one grown and then attached to your body via surgery. It should be fine since it your own limb biologically identical as such. You have to choose to have cybernetic parts
I would also keep the Clone Troopers but also include Storm Troopers as both are a necessary function for the Empire after it transitioned from the Republic. Heck, I would even include Battle Droids. There is a value in diversity given it is effective in having such a variety of soldiers. Clone troopers act as the commandos and type soldiers in a squad. The Storm Troopers are not as good, but don't have to be. It is sort of an open door to become better should you survive long enough, but since Storm Troopers are never on par with Clone Troopers, they always fall short of reaching that threshold, but this is never made apparent so the availability of Storm Troopers is always present and because it is an ever present occupation with the "promise" of a greater life in the Empire, there aren't as many rebellions and issues in the Empire. Droids provide functions that Storm Troopers and Clone Troopers are unable to do and are more expendable offering a false premise that Storm Troopers are protected and valued by the Empire as there is something beneath them. Just something so inexpensive to mass produce that it doesn't matter in the long scheme of things, only the trick of psychology placed on the masses that they matter and have a future if they serve the Empire.
Talent in the Empire is always given an officer position rather than becoming an Enlisted Storm Trooper. Do know there are no enlisted doing any other job but being a Storm Trooper, they have droids to do everything else that related to what I had just stated. So there is also that quality of Starship Troopers in which you must become part of the military to gain citizenship, but if you don't have talent, you will become one of the infantry (which for the Empire are the Storm Troopers).
Stop using trashy ai images
No “What If”! Totally unnecessary.
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Dude's using A.I. for his thumbnails now 😂 unsubbed