I've seen nearly every single "defect" that you claim is a sure fire sign of a "fake" Rolex on watches in authorized dealer display cases! Light between lugs, stiff links, tiny imperfections in the polish, bezel slack, etc. the key is finding multiple imperfections in a watch, that's when you know is it's a fake.
The stainless steel Rolex uses in their watch cases is NOT some rare alloy that isn't used by anyone else. This is just marketing hype from Rolex. It's ordinary SAE 904L stainless, which is completely common trade grade steel. Just because Rolex calls it Oystersteel or whatever doesn't make it any more rare. You can order 904L in the tons from any big steel supplier, and get it delivered in a few weeks. Sheet, beams, pipe, whatever you want. Also, there's really no rational reason to use 904L in a diver's watch, unless you intend to dive in acid, which I wouldn't recommend anyway. 316L, which most manufactures use, is more than good enough in seawater. Especially if you flush the watch in fresh water after each dive, which is a good practice regardless. I say this as en engineer, who has been working in the oil and gas industry and in chemical industry where 904L is used quite a lot in tanks, tubing, piping etc, because of it's good corrosion resistance (pitting specifically) in certain environments. So stop repeating this nonsens that Rolex uses some very special rare stainless alloy in their watches. They don't.
Omega was the first to use 904L in a watch with the 1971 Proplof despite Rolex's claim they were the first to use it in 1985. It's softer than 316L and that's why Rolex scratch easily. Rolex use it because it takes a higher polish. O-Mega Steel is a great alloy. It's 40-50% harder than even 316L and is required in the Ultra Deep. It's hypoallergenic too.
@@7.92Gav It's true that 904L is softer than 316L. It's easier and faster to mill and polish. 904L watches should be cheaper than 316L watches. At least at Rolex's price point, where the material cost itself is negligible.
Although 20x more expensive, a genuine submariner is not 20X better than this super clone. That is all the convincing i need to buy a super clone. This is a great watch for $500.
Re-sale value is a non-issue for me, because i do not wear my investments on my wrists. European ingenuity or craftsmanship also plays no role because the world moves and changes quickly in our modern times. The aspect of horology and precision also does not interest me because i can check my iPhone for TIME. History of ROLEX also is of no interest because there are multiple successful companies with similar stories. What interests me is STYLE & SIMPLICITY which as it seems from this video a $500 watch can provide.
@@user-yo3uf9os2zThe Chinese are not the only ones my friend. European/American politicians talk about high ethical values on camera yet stay silent when oil rich countries commit crimes against humanity. This world is not perfect, do whatever makes you happy and stay out of other people's businesses lol
yeah good luck wasting your money. the movement is some cheap chinese movement which lasts about 2 years max. and is not repairsble because you cant find parts for it. it has plastic parts in it.. so its 500$ thrown away after an year /max 2
You buy a luxury watch for what others think about it? I could care less if a stranger or family member thinks it’s fake, because I know mine is genuine! You buy a luxury watch, because you love it!
Most do assume it's a fake (first question: Is it real? Even if you say yes, you get that BS look 😂). With so many clones, a Rolex now makes you look cheap.
@@7.92Gav Reread my previous post slowly! I could care less what you and strangers think. I know my Rolexes are real! Your post tells me when you see a Rolex you wish you had one and consider theirs fake, because you can’t afford one.
I have a genuine 2004 Submariner Date that I have had service twice now, both complete overhauls that cost over $1000.00 each time (ouch) I definitely need to start taking better care of it. Any how, whenever someone complements me on my watch or starts giving me grief about wasting my money or worst calls me pretentious I always tell them it is a fake that I got from a yard sale for $25.00 and without exception they always say that they see that it is a fake now that I told them. Point being, nobody knows but you and you are into fooling yourself then go for it.
Haha, I have a 2006 Explorer ll and I have had 3 services- $700, $1100 and $1200. The pain is real, but, I bought this as a tool, and use it as a tool. I wear it daily. I have only begun to get interested in Fakes because of the mugging and theft when traveling.
@@alevey64 If you are worried about mugging and theft, why wear a fake. The common criminal won't spend the time to determine if you have a deep fake on or not. So now you'll get jumped and possibly injured over a fake. I don't know about you, but I don't want to get jumped at all. So if you are traveling, why not go with a inexpensive ISO Seiko or Citizen diver. No chance of anyone of mugging you for that. Or better yet, a nice Invicta Pro Diver for 80 bucks. It's a Rolex Homage, but not so much so that a criminal is going to dust you for an Invicta. Plenty of inexpensive watches that don't advertise you as a target.
Ask these people why do they think it's fake ! They can't answer you........ I have a genuine submariner bought 2016 and you are right it's what you personally know that matters !
99% of people don't care about your watch unless there a watch person or a theft. You could go a life time wearing a Rolex/Patek Philippe/Audemars Piguet/Lange and Sohne/ and no one is going test if your watch is genuine. There's just as much probability as you winning the top Lottery prize.
100%. Most watch fanatics would be shocked to know how many of the nice watches they see non-celebrities wearing are fakes. Most of those people would be shocked to know how much the average watch nerd spends on watches too.
Love mamacoo the way you show it! You really focus on showing off the watch. I don't think any other TH-camr can show off watches in as much detail as you.
I don't know about the bezel myth of no play back. I've own the 114060 and 126610 and they both have just the slightest play back on the bezel. by the way both were bought an my AD so zero chance of being fake. I actually did buy this rep though when I was Thailand for a vacation last year and it was scary close to the real thing but it ran 20 seconds a day. I gave it away on my last day there to nice gentleman who helped us during the vacation.
Submariners are so common nowadays from where I’m located. It comes to a point where u start to assume everyone is wearing a fake unless u know for sure that guy is a watch enthusiast who can afford the real thing.
Ok so this model appears to be the Submariner 41mm 126610 LN Black Ceramic 904L Steel VSF on a VS3235 movement released in 2022 worth around $450-$500.
Really great video, bro! I've had my VSF Starbucks for around a month. This type of video is really helpful for people looking to pull the trigger on superclones and admittedly I was looking for videos like this but most of them were in Chinese commentary with loud BGM. My VSF has two things I don't like about it which is 1) The bezel is quite loose and has some backplay (your bezel looks much stiffer which I envy) 2) Pulling the crown out to the 1st and 2nd position lacks the noticeable *click*. It's very ambiguous when trying to get into each position so maybe my stem is a little too short (but it does hack thankfully). Also it seems that it's notorious with VSF cases where screwing in the crown still leaves a small gap but it looks like your shower test proved it to still be water tight. 5:44 Looks like the crown could be screwed in a bit more
@@Yo.merito DHGate. It can be quite a gamble but if you look for vendors with a long-standing account and lots of transactions, you should be okay. I basically took a gamble twice with 2 different sellers and both of the vendors sent me photos of the watch before shipping them and both made it to me successfully.
Thanks man this was really helpful and informative please keep up the great work looking for more real and high quality replicas reviews and comparisons
Great video, my VSF submariner does not have any of the issues that you have on the replica demonstrated in this video, if you have the same replica that I have, I would say it is safe to say that all are not equals. Great video, I did enjoy watching this!
I’ve had 2 Ginault ocean rovers they are very good looks wise But to be honest I wasn’t impressed with the sillita movement, is okay. I’ve also got 2 genuine Submariners, so I guess I’m partial, But these super reps are tempting for the price point vs Ginault
If you buy a real one, you don´t ´spend´ that amount.. you ´invest´ it because it wil keep it´s value over the years or even increases in value. And if you buy from an AD at retail price, you already have an increased value on the grey market. If you buy a fake you 100% lose that money
@@TheGoat-hg6um I understand what you mean, but I was referring to you saying it´s ´not worth´ paying more for a genuine watch. That´s why I gave the reasons why people would pay more for a genuine.
Getting one from AD is the hard part if it was easy I would buy a Rolex every week and sell it on a profit hence why hard to get or everyone would be doing same
The investment is the time, wear, and durability of the watch. Sure it holds its value but foolish to bank on watches for value. The $$$ value only become real when you sell the watch for more than what you paid for. With Rolex modern watches will not be as valuable as pre-ceramic Rolex. The watches that will increase in value are the models that had a short production run. SeaDweller 116600, 14270 Explorer holes case, 43mm SeaDweller first year production with no crown at 6 o’clock. Yellow dial OP 41mm/36mm. Swiss only dial Submariners or other Rolex models. Right now these are at obtainable prices but who knows in 20-30 years how much will they be worth?
"best" is a bold claim... From my understanding, all the factories at the upper end of the replica market typically have their strengths and weaknesses. VSF, Noob, Clean etc. One might have the best case, one might have the best dials... I'm no expert but I don't believe there is such thing as a best dupe :)
Actually they are for someone who could afford the authentic ones. and as I know, some of guys do like to own many styles in duplication and make their outfits cool but money saved.
I'd heard a factory named Clean Factory was regarded as the ones that uses the most accurate replicated parts? this seemed really damn super tho , but maybe its those that are being regarded as needing visual aid to spot the difference?
Luckily the watch industry has evolved into a point where you can buy a true and authentic watch with the accuracy of top tier watches. That said, you never need to buy a fake, but rather stick to an original lower tier watch without the risk of being blamed of sporting a fake or being mugged
I have one, bought to learn what to avoid when buying a real one. It’s pretty darned good looks wise. Loses about 30 seconds a day though. A dealer would spot it right away on handling. To compare it to the one in the review links are not stiff and the closure of the bracelet is crisp with no force needed. Tiny bit of back play on bezel. Slight unevenness in pressure when turning bezel, mainly when getting to the reset point. Mine also has a minute gap one one side of the link that joins the watch body on both ends of the strap.
to those people who argue against buying fakes because they say you can buy a more quality watch from a real brand for the same money … there is no seiko or tissot that even comes close to this
This movement will eventually fail. You are better off getting something with a Swiss ETA 2824-2 movement or buy a homage such as San Martin or Steeldive with Seiko/TMI NH35 movement. The Steeldive SD1953 is an awesome homage for about $50 USD. Incredible value with incredible lume.
I've wanted a Submariner since I was 8, but as an adult, I'm glad I'm a Vostok guy. I have a San Martin, as well. That's as close as I'll ever get to a real Sub, and I'm okay with that.
The one you actually want is previous model, no date, the 114060 from VSF. Watch for known serial numbers if you care that much, although if you know known fake serial numbers off the top of your head you're a replica watch enthusiast yourself because there is no guarantee any serial isn't a real Rolex one, they're totally randomised.
Well presented and interesting. I think the cost of these replicas is far too high considering their resale value will be under $100. It's a novelty and nothing more. Better off saving your pennies and buying a second hand submariner from a authorised Rolex dealer. It'll maintain or increase in value and won't leave you out of pocket should you decide to sell sometime in the future.
Back play on the bezzle also is the same on a Rolex too. There is a side by side comparison on Michael the watch guy. They had a magnifying glass and screen and still couldnt tell . It even fooled a rolex dealer, But it was a super clone not a 600 dollar one
Clean factory seems to make a higher quality clone, you can add factory Rolex parts to create a Frankenstein Clone which is OEM Rolex parts put on the clone, for like $2k you can have a clone that can pass as a real Rolex. The dealer has to open it up to see if genuine or clone.
@TheNEOONE1 if you navigate to the repgeek or RWI forums youll see that the community are overwhelmingly in favour of Clean version of Rolex. Clean factory also have exclusivity of the new SH4131 movement.
@teddyjohnson284 have you ever visited the watch forums? Overwhelmingly the majority have agreed that CLEAN factory produce the most near accurate exterior Rolex subs..VSFs are simply superior for the movement quality. Hey but whats stopping someone to purchase a CLEAN with a VSF movement upgrade installed within the CLEAN case? Then is your CLEAN still dogsht? I think not.
Personally i love replicas they feel and look good and if you pay for an AAAAA one they are well buuilt and of course have the excellent rolex design features.. without the fear of scratching it losing ir or getting robbed for it: just let the mugger take it if they insist, show them how to use the features hehe, and get another
Hi there I've got a fake sea dweller and love it to bits it keeps great time is it wrong with having a fake.i though it was how it makes you feel ..fake it to make it 😂😂😆😆👍 great video
For stiff links or a squeaky bracelet: put the bracelet in a sealbag with some hair conditioner... Rub the conditioner into the links and let it sit for an hour. Wash it down with some lukewarm water and you're ready to go!
It's almost as good as a Rolex, that's obvious. but do i want it on my wrist knowing it's a fake? Nope. More happy with a Casio of 100 bucks and being authentic. Great video buddy!
I have to say you are wrong about the quality of some clones needing a microscope. You just havent seen one yet. Im not sure if you sre familiar with another watch guy on TH-cam? Michael the producer? Check out his video called scammed with a fake rolex. The thumbnail says real vs fake. Its from around 3 months ago and he talks of one of the most reputable dealers in LA/Hollywood and himself not being able to tell the difference between them. He goes over both with a microscope and is blown away. Take a look and let me know what you think.
@aresmoraitis1784 the only thing better in VSF is the movement. Clean has much accurate exterior. The CLEAN'S movement can be upgraded quite easily to the movement inside the vsf
Lol. Clean do some things better(bracelet), but most in the know would say that VSF edge it. Original Rolex factory is not in China. Wrong on two counts.
The million dollar question????? What is the name of this merchant? From whom to buy? There are many despicable and crooked dealers who take your money and never ship you the watch. How much to pay for a good quality super clone Rolex GMT? Thanks for helping.
They did and even the watch geeks know that deep down. Because I want a Rolex sub and I’m not paying $30K+ for 2nd hand. These people really are delusional like they have stock in Rolex or something. They’re just butt hurt because they’re worried that someone might be getting a compliment on a nice watch that should’ve their’s but they didn’t pay $15K- $30K . They’re just shallow thinking a material possession makes them a better person
I've seen nearly every single "defect" that you claim is a sure fire sign of a "fake" Rolex on watches in authorized dealer display cases! Light between lugs, stiff links, tiny imperfections in the polish, bezel slack, etc. the key is finding multiple imperfections in a watch, that's when you know is it's a fake.
The stainless steel Rolex uses in their watch cases is NOT some rare alloy that isn't used by anyone else. This is just marketing hype from Rolex. It's ordinary SAE 904L stainless, which is completely common trade grade steel. Just because Rolex calls it Oystersteel or whatever doesn't make it any more rare. You can order 904L in the tons from any big steel supplier, and get it delivered in a few weeks. Sheet, beams, pipe, whatever you want.
Also, there's really no rational reason to use 904L in a diver's watch, unless you intend to dive in acid, which I wouldn't recommend anyway. 316L, which most manufactures use, is more than good enough in seawater. Especially if you flush the watch in fresh water after each dive, which is a good practice regardless.
I say this as en engineer, who has been working in the oil and gas industry and in chemical industry where 904L is used quite a lot in tanks, tubing, piping etc, because of it's good corrosion resistance (pitting specifically) in certain environments.
So stop repeating this nonsens that Rolex uses some very special rare stainless alloy in their watches. They don't.
After you said all that I just wonder why you need a watch underwater if you're a diver I get it but why that expensive😂😂
I ordered one in 904 for my omega that looks just like a Rolex band. Looks so much better with the taper
Glad you commented this info
Omega was the first to use 904L in a watch with the 1971 Proplof despite Rolex's claim they were the first to use it in 1985. It's softer than 316L and that's why Rolex scratch easily. Rolex use it because it takes a higher polish. O-Mega Steel is a great alloy. It's 40-50% harder than even 316L and is required in the Ultra Deep. It's hypoallergenic too.
@@7.92Gav It's true that 904L is softer than 316L. It's easier and faster to mill and polish. 904L watches should be cheaper than 316L watches. At least at Rolex's price point, where the material cost itself is negligible.
Very well done vid production. Thank you for pointing out the issues with the VSF clones.
Although 20x more expensive, a genuine submariner is not 20X better than this super clone. That is all the convincing i need to buy a super clone. This is a great watch for $500.
Re-sale value is a non-issue for me, because i do not wear my investments on my wrists. European ingenuity or craftsmanship also plays no role because the world moves and changes quickly in our modern times. The aspect of horology and precision also does not interest me because i can check my iPhone for TIME. History of ROLEX also is of no interest because there are multiple successful companies with similar stories. What interests me is STYLE & SIMPLICITY which as it seems from this video a $500 watch can provide.
Get a Hamilton and respect. I'm sick and tired of the Chinese cheating their way through life.
@@user-yo3uf9os2zThe Chinese are not the only ones my friend. European/American politicians talk about high ethical values on camera yet stay silent when oil rich countries commit crimes against humanity. This world is not perfect, do whatever makes you happy and stay out of other people's businesses lol
@@earthculture214Why buy a fake?
yeah good luck wasting your money. the movement is some cheap chinese movement which lasts about 2 years max. and is not repairsble because you cant find parts for it. it has plastic parts in it.. so its 500$ thrown away after an year /max 2
If I had money, would not buy a Rolex because everyone assumes it is a fake anyway.
You buy a luxury watch for what others think about it? I could care less if a stranger or family member thinks it’s fake, because I know mine is genuine! You buy a luxury watch, because you love it!
Most do assume it's a fake (first question: Is it real? Even if you say yes, you get that BS look 😂). With so many clones, a Rolex now makes you look cheap.
@@7.92Gav Reread my previous post slowly! I could care less what you and strangers think. I know my Rolexes are real!
Your post tells me when you see a Rolex you wish you had one and consider theirs fake, because you can’t afford one.
hence - u will alwiz be poor - sour grape
I have a genuine 2004 Submariner Date that I have had service twice now, both complete overhauls that cost over $1000.00 each time (ouch) I definitely need to start taking better care of it. Any how, whenever someone complements me on my watch or starts giving me grief about wasting my money or worst calls me pretentious I always tell them it is a fake that I got from a yard sale for $25.00 and without exception they always say that they see that it is a fake now that I told them. Point being, nobody knows but you and you are into fooling yourself then go for it.
Haha, I have a 2006 Explorer ll and I have had 3 services- $700, $1100 and $1200. The pain is real, but, I bought this as a tool, and use it as a tool. I wear it daily. I have only begun to get interested in Fakes because of the mugging and theft when traveling.
@@alevey64 If you are worried about mugging and theft, why wear a fake. The common criminal won't spend the time to determine if you have a deep fake on or not. So now you'll get jumped and possibly injured over a fake. I don't know about you, but I don't want to get jumped at all.
So if you are traveling, why not go with a inexpensive ISO Seiko or Citizen diver. No chance of anyone of mugging you for that. Or better yet, a nice Invicta Pro Diver for 80 bucks. It's a Rolex Homage, but not so much so that a criminal is going to dust you for an Invicta. Plenty of inexpensive watches that don't advertise you as a target.
Ask these people why do they think it's fake ! They can't answer you........ I have a genuine submariner bought 2016 and you are right it's what you personally know that matters !
VSF IS NOT THE BEST REPLICA ANYMORE….FACTORIES HAVE CHANGE NAME AND OWNERS, ALSO MONTH BY MONTH THEY ARE GETTING CLOSER TO GEN
I have one and as someone that used to work in the luxury watch industry i can confirm they are scary accurate
Reptime sends their regards.
99% of people don't care about your watch unless there a watch person or a theft.
You could go a life time wearing a Rolex/Patek Philippe/Audemars Piguet/Lange and Sohne/ and no one is going test if your watch is genuine. There's just as much probability as you winning the top Lottery prize.
100%. Most watch fanatics would be shocked to know how many of the nice watches they see non-celebrities wearing are fakes. Most of those people would be shocked to know how much the average watch nerd spends on watches too.
what a fucking true !!! you cant say more clear nobody will ever the fucking diference and nobody cares ......
I call out people IRL for wearing replicas.
@@illuminatisocietyoffreemas6965 Your life must be boring to look at people wrist long enough to call it a replica and then go to speak with them
Love mamacoo the way you show it! You really focus on showing off the watch. I don't think any other TH-camr can show off watches in as much detail as you.
My genuine Explorer 40 new from the AD had a stiff link….
It just shows what the markup on a Rolex is.
Oh stop being so ignorant.....
Is Rolex a jewish compny?
I don't know about the bezel myth of no play back. I've own the 114060 and 126610 and they both have just the slightest play back on the bezel. by the way both were bought an my AD so zero chance of being fake. I actually did buy this rep though when I was Thailand for a vacation last year and it was scary close to the real thing but it ran 20 seconds a day. I gave it away on my last day there to nice gentleman who helped us during the vacation.
Bracelet stiffness could possibly be fixed with an ultrasonic cleaning, failing that you could try the baby oil bath method.
Have tried the baby oil bath method multiple times. No luck
KY jelly will work .
Submariners are so common nowadays from where I’m located. It comes to a point where u start to assume everyone is wearing a fake unless u know for sure that guy is a watch enthusiast who can afford the real thing.
Good video bro!
Do the CLEAN rep version instead bro😊
Great video, you got another follower
Ok so this model appears to be the Submariner 41mm 126610 LN Black Ceramic 904L Steel VSF on a VS3235 movement released in 2022 worth around $450-$500.
Really great video, bro! I've had my VSF Starbucks for around a month.
This type of video is really helpful for people looking to pull the trigger on superclones and admittedly I was looking for videos like this but most of them were in Chinese commentary with loud BGM.
My VSF has two things I don't like about it which is
1) The bezel is quite loose and has some backplay (your bezel looks much stiffer which I envy)
2) Pulling the crown out to the 1st and 2nd position lacks the noticeable *click*. It's very ambiguous when trying to get into each position so maybe my stem is a little too short (but it does hack thankfully).
Also it seems that it's notorious with VSF cases where screwing in the crown still leaves a small gap but it looks like your shower test proved it to still be water tight.
5:44 Looks like the crown could be screwed in a bit more
Bro, where did you buy your watch?
@@Yo.merito DHGate. It can be quite a gamble but if you look for vendors with a long-standing account and lots of transactions, you should be okay. I basically took a gamble twice with 2 different sellers and both of the vendors sent me photos of the watch before shipping them and both made it to me successfully.
Whats the link to purchase
We don't talk about...never mind.
Then don’t make the video.
On the fake the glass crystal is higher than the bezel as well !
Thanks man this was really helpful and informative please keep up the great work looking for more real and high quality replicas reviews and comparisons
Great video, my VSF submariner does not have any of the issues that you have on the replica demonstrated in this video, if you have the same replica that I have, I would say it is safe to say that all are not equals. Great video, I did enjoy watching this!
I have a Ginault Ocean Rover II, Silletta SW-200-1 movement. Blue bezel, I paid retail from the manufacturer $1799, better than $11,000.00
I’ve had 2 Ginault ocean rovers they are very good looks wise But to be honest I wasn’t impressed with the sillita movement, is okay. I’ve also got 2 genuine Submariners, so I guess I’m partial, But these super reps are tempting for the price point vs Ginault
That's a beautiful watch!!!
Do you know the owner of Ginault started that watch brand after he himself used to make rolex super clones lol
@@adamjovic6680yep, I remember the controversy just a few years ago about it also.
What’s the website
lol good video but yes microscopic differences not worth $14,450 more for a genuine in my honest opinion
If you buy a real one, you don´t ´spend´ that amount.. you ´invest´ it because it wil keep it´s value over the years or even increases in value. And if you buy from an AD at retail price, you already have an increased value on the grey market. If you buy a fake you 100% lose that money
@@jordy-dc real or fake it’s still a watch… it doesn’t have resell value but I’ve still got a functional watch.. how is that a loss?
@@TheGoat-hg6um I understand what you mean, but I was referring to you saying it´s ´not worth´ paying more for a genuine watch. That´s why I gave the reasons why people would pay more for a genuine.
Getting one from AD is the hard part if it was easy I would buy a Rolex every week and sell it on a profit hence why hard to get or everyone would be doing same
The investment is the time, wear, and durability of the watch. Sure it holds its value but foolish to bank on watches for value. The $$$ value only become real when you sell the watch for more than what you paid for. With Rolex modern watches will not be as valuable as pre-ceramic Rolex. The watches that will increase in value are the models that had a short production run. SeaDweller 116600, 14270 Explorer holes case, 43mm SeaDweller first year production with no crown at 6 o’clock. Yellow dial OP 41mm/36mm. Swiss only dial Submariners or other Rolex models. Right now these are at obtainable prices but who knows in 20-30 years how much will they be worth?
"best" is a bold claim... From my understanding, all the factories at the upper end of the replica market typically have their strengths and weaknesses. VSF, Noob, Clean etc. One might have the best case, one might have the best dials... I'm no expert but I don't believe there is such thing as a best dupe :)
Why are you not putting a link to where to buy it?
excellent review
Where did you buy this watch? I'd like to check it myself.
Great video, can u do the pepsi gmt plx
Could you add dimensions comparison please? Maybe even open the case to see the movement?
Great video! Where can I buy one? Thanks
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if you mentioned where you purchased this one but if I did would you advise me again? thanks... nice review ..
Where you got it from. I’ve been looking for a while.
you'd still get mugged at knifepoint for it...
Great video. Where can these be purchased?
Where can i buy the watch im in the uk
Actually they are for someone who could afford the authentic ones. and as I know, some of guys do like to own many styles in duplication and make their outfits cool but money saved.
Did it have the Rolex logo etched at 6 o'clock?
I'd heard a factory named Clean Factory was regarded as the ones that uses the most accurate replicated parts? this seemed really damn super tho , but maybe its those that are being regarded as needing visual aid to spot the difference?
My understanding from the replica community is that VSF is superior to Clean overall, although there are certain things Clean does better
vsf makes the best sub, clean makes the best daytona and gmt
The latest Clean's have the VSF movement, really with a crystal swap the Clean might be the better watch now.
If it's that close, Rolex is taking you for a ride for $14,500
I have a genuine Rolex GMT that had the same datewheel problem following a service. Rolex fixed it for me under warranty, though.
Can you please the website where i can get this?
Luckily the watch industry has evolved into a point where you can buy a true and authentic watch with the accuracy of top tier watches. That said, you never need to buy a fake, but rather stick to an original lower tier watch without the risk of being blamed of sporting a fake or being mugged
How much and where can I buy
Google clean factory Rolex submariner
Plz do one on AP Diver
I have one, bought to learn what to avoid when buying a real one. It’s pretty darned good looks wise. Loses about 30 seconds a day though. A dealer would spot it right away on handling.
To compare it to the one in the review links are not stiff and the closure of the bracelet is crisp with no force needed. Tiny bit of back play on bezel. Slight unevenness in pressure when turning bezel, mainly when getting to the reset point. Mine also has a minute gap one one side of the link that joins the watch body on both ends of the strap.
Where can I purchase it from pls , thanks
Where can I buy one ?
to those people who argue against buying fakes because they say you can buy a more quality watch from a real brand for the same money … there is no seiko or tissot that even comes close to this
Its more worth it than the waste of momey called a Rolex.
This movement will eventually fail. You are better off getting something with a Swiss ETA 2824-2 movement or buy a homage such as San Martin or Steeldive with Seiko/TMI NH35 movement. The Steeldive SD1953 is an awesome homage for about $50 USD. Incredible value with incredible lume.
I've wanted a Submariner since I was 8, but as an adult, I'm glad I'm a Vostok guy. I have a San Martin, as well. That's as close as I'll ever get to a real Sub, and I'm okay with that.
what company did you purchase this from ?
The one you actually want is previous model, no date, the 114060 from VSF.
Watch for known serial numbers if you care that much, although if you know known fake serial numbers off the top of your head you're a replica watch enthusiast yourself because there is no guarantee any serial isn't a real Rolex one, they're totally randomised.
Even the genuine Rolex's have QC issues...
Well presented and interesting. I think the cost of these replicas is far too high considering their resale value will be under $100. It's a novelty and nothing more. Better off saving your pennies and buying a second hand submariner from a authorised Rolex dealer. It'll maintain or increase in value and won't leave you out of pocket should you decide to sell sometime in the future.
Back play on the bezzle also is the same on a Rolex too. There is a side by side comparison on Michael the watch guy. They had a magnifying glass and screen and still couldnt tell . It even fooled a rolex dealer, But it was a super clone not a 600 dollar one
the vsf scratched my rolex itch. True story
I just wanna know where he bought it. I need me a super clone 😂😂😂😂
China: "Thank you for your feedback."
How do I buy one please?
what do you think about the sheen of the metal on the bezel etc
Overall fantastic. Pretty impressed with all external parts of the watch, apart from the mirror polishing on the sides of the case.
It’s a ref 126610 bezel is not metal it’s ceramic is meant to be shiny
@@stevencowie1540 There's teeth that surround the ceramic bezel is made of metal and finished in high polish...
@@EspressoWatches yes I know,guy was asking about the bezel shine,ceramic and metal bezel finish are not same as you know
@@stevencowie1540 the ceramic aka cerachrome is an insert, the previous insert was aluminum.
Your favorite word is for sure "crisp"
The $600 variant has been around for a while. I'd imagin the price would be lower if it weren't for costs related to being under the radar.
It’s NOT a Rolex variant! It’s a counterfeit watch!
Where can I buy this super clone?
Can we see the movement? Pls
Buy a real one. Great video though. I get confused by Invicta Pro diver from across the room 🤣
Pro diver will probably last longer I own one great watch to have looks like a Sub Date from afar and only costs 70 bucks
Clean factory seems to make a higher quality clone, you can add factory Rolex parts to create a Frankenstein Clone which is OEM Rolex parts put on the clone, for like $2k you can have a clone that can pass as a real Rolex. The dealer has to open it up to see if genuine or clone.
Not sure why this guy did a video on a VSF Factory made version? CLEAN is by far the best version
@@TheNEOONE1 based on what facts?
@TheNEOONE1 if you navigate to the repgeek or RWI forums youll see that the community are overwhelmingly in favour of Clean version of Rolex. Clean factory also have exclusivity of the new SH4131 movement.
@@Red-Red-Red-Red clean is dogsht, VSF is 10 times better buddy
@teddyjohnson284 have you ever visited the watch forums? Overwhelmingly the majority have agreed that CLEAN factory produce the most near accurate exterior Rolex subs..VSFs are simply superior for the movement quality. Hey but whats stopping someone to purchase a CLEAN with a VSF movement upgrade installed within the CLEAN case? Then is your CLEAN still dogsht? I think not.
Where to buy this clone
Personally i love replicas they feel and look good and if you pay for an AAAAA one they are well buuilt and of course have the excellent rolex design features.. without the fear of scratching it losing ir or getting robbed for it: just let the mugger take it if they insist, show them how to use the features hehe, and get another
Bezel action seems miles away from the real thing.
Can you share the link to where you got this watch?
only thing i see is the font on the date , to much flare on the ends of digits
Hi there I've got a fake sea dweller and love it to bits it keeps great time is it wrong with having a fake.i though it was how it makes you feel ..fake it to make it 😂😂😆😆👍 great video
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Now where can I buy the clone
Jtime
@@bizuca is that a website
Google it. Take care, there are clone, rip off versions.
Very beautiful
For stiff links or a squeaky bracelet: put the bracelet in a sealbag with some hair conditioner... Rub the conditioner into the links and let it sit for an hour. Wash it down with some lukewarm water and you're ready to go!
My fake sub still keeps good time, but i have to wind it about every 30 hrs or it slows down after three years.
Getting shanked while wearing a fake is baller...
come si puo avere fammi sapere
How much is it?
I want one then i have 3 a real one a Invicta Pro Dive then the clone
Rolex makes EVERY part of there watches in house, Including the steal
Yes
Where can I get me one of these bad boys?
why u didn open n see insiode -lots of dust there
Rolex, the Harley Davidson of watches.
The flaws youve mentioned ive seen on genuine ones too so... wouldnt say thats something to even bother
It's almost as good as a Rolex, that's obvious. but do i want it on my wrist knowing it's a fake? Nope. More happy with a Casio of 100 bucks and being authentic. Great video buddy!
Enjoy staying 1 sided in life. I was clever. I have a gen yellow gold casio gshock and a superclone john mayer Rolex 116508.
@@Red-Red-Red-Redyou lost me at buying a superclone!
@@NogoalRob google it up babe
@@NogoalRob goo gle it babe
@@NogoalRob goggle it, babes
Imagine losing your life or being robbed for a fake. I'd never buy a fake
I have to say you are wrong about the quality of some clones needing a microscope. You just havent seen one yet. Im not sure if you sre familiar with another watch guy on TH-cam? Michael the producer? Check out his video called scammed with a fake rolex. The thumbnail says real vs fake. Its from around 3 months ago and he talks of one of the most reputable dealers in LA/Hollywood and himself not being able to tell the difference between them. He goes over both with a microscope and is blown away. Take a look and let me know what you think.
From where did you brought this watch ?
He brought it from Dh gate
@@JohnnyDouchbag-nr5yfDH GATE doesn’t sell super clones they sell shitters
Hello, I would like to purchase this VSF from you, willing to sell it?
You can buy my clean factory .only worn once
Why did you make this review on a VSF factory made version of this watch? You should have made a review on the CLEAN factory version.
VSF and CLEAN are both the equally best sub super clone producers
@aresmoraitis1784 the only thing better in VSF is the movement. Clean has much accurate exterior. The CLEAN'S movement can be upgraded quite easily to the movement inside the vsf
Fake watches are for those who can afford them.
1. clean factory make better sub clone
2. original rolex factory is in china more than 17 years
Lol. Clean do some things better(bracelet), but most in the know would say that VSF edge it. Original Rolex factory is not in China. Wrong on two counts.
The million dollar question?????
What is the name of this merchant?
From whom to buy? There are many despicable and crooked dealers who take your money and never ship you the watch.
How much to pay for a good quality super clone Rolex GMT?
Thanks for helping.
Vs factory has the best movement.....clean f...better case
Rolex is vastly overpriced and I’ll be damned if I’m going to lick the boots of an AD. They’ve brought these fakes upon themselves.
They did and even the watch geeks know that deep down. Because I want a Rolex sub and I’m not paying $30K+ for 2nd hand. These people really are delusional like they have stock in Rolex or something. They’re just butt hurt because they’re worried that someone might be getting a compliment on a nice watch that should’ve their’s but they didn’t pay $15K- $30K . They’re just shallow thinking a material possession makes them a better person
@@greg6162great comment