“The black family survived centuries of slavery and generations of Jim Crow, but it has disintegrated in the wake of the liberals' expansion of the welfare state.” - Thomas Sowell
And at the center of ALL of it is one entity....not the USA. It's only the Democrat party. They were at the center of slavery. At the center of Jim Crow laws. And they are at the center of the current welfare state.
truthseeker215, I think it's a reference to a statistic I've heard him point out a few times. Basically, there was a significant percentage of black children living within two-parent households 100 years after slavery was abolished, but only 30 years after the social security act that percentage decreased dramatically. That's the context of the quote for you I guess.
Showing that welfare increased during the same time that Black families "disintegrated" is only establishing a temporal relationship between welfare and the Black family. But where is the *causal* relationship? Statistics 101: correlation is not causation. Two events happening during a similar time period does not automatically mean that event A caused event B.
Troy Longo dude be careful. Too much fact makes them implode. I love how they ignore the impact that the war on drugs and other similar policies had on the community. But of course, since black people are so lazy if you offer them free shit they will choose to not work and just free load. They never do these types of comparisons between welfare and the white community even though white people make up the majority of welfare recipients.
I just caught this video and heard what Sowell had to say about the NYC "Rubber Room". As someone who has researched these "Rubber Rooms" for close to a decade now, Sowell was indeed ignorant by the broad statement he made about them. He labeled all teachers who have had the misfortune of being assigned there as "incompetent." Yes, some are, but not all. Some have been victims of false accusations or abusive principals. That is a fact and is well documented. Another fact is that Sowell was indeed not knowledgeable about the extent of his own ignorance by making that broad claim. He was, at the time of that statement, simply not aware of facts.
@@Brooklyn3955 I am sure he is aware he is capable of making generalizations. Does that make his statement unworthy? Nobody claimed he is perfect. That's kind of the point of the quote. He is included in the quote.
Surely you cannot be misinformed, surely you have all the correct info. That entire interview is filled with hilarious contradictions. Dave: so how do we solve this. Swill: everyone needs the correct information. *five seconds later* MILTON FRIEDMAN ONCE SAID WHATS BEST IS THE ENEMY OF THE GOOD. Fucking morons lmao
@@bschonger83 The elderly man speaking is one of the greatest economists of our lifetime. You might want to hold back your opinions and listen to him. He has researched the data and done studies his entire career. You on the other hand I feel only listen to media outlets that serve your narrative.
J Sickels if you ever even read the Bible or any of the proverbs, the Bible is logical thought. It teaches you that right and wrong and facts are the only thing that matters. Opinions and feelings are irrelevant when it comes to right and wrong. You think like this because you were brainwashed into thinking that religion is bad. I used to be you, not even 5 months ago. Thought the Bible was a load of horse shit. THEN I READ IT. If you want to know the difference between right and wrong, start with proverbs. Logical thought and reasoning is what is right, but what is wrong is to judge someone’s thoughts before considering their thoughts.
Thomas Sowell is one of my favorite people to listen to and read. But being president is a nasty business. I think he would have fit in much better as an economic adviser for a president.
m mirreh Exactly these racism deniers require you to believe that although people can be racist on an individual level, although people can have personal biases, and although those people could be in positions of influence, because of “muh American exceptionalism” all those biases and prejudices go out the window when those people go about their every day lives
@Too Cool For Cardi You're projecting a bit too much there. Not once did he say anything hateful or spiteful, rather more thoughtful and articulate. He knows what he's talking about while you accuse him of being in denial and having self-hatred and apathy. You might need to have some self-reflection and ask yourself if you're the things you accuse him of.
I agree, it's too bad the media pushed him down the totem pole. I've argued for the wrongs of the MSM for a long time. One of the reasons being that people like him are suppressed by the media. He should be known to the main stream.
He has attempted to derail much more than that with little fact and lots of cherry picking. He is the white conservatives token black. They look at him as if “finally a smart negro man, I wish all of your people thought like this” and he is compliant.
Its very easy to understand, Thomas Sowell Black Bad, Snoop Dogg Black Good. Its a value system inculcated into the Black Community by the Democratic Party, They enslave themselves now.
Germanikolaas Absolute dude the democratic party is not competent enough to do anything like that.... delusional. thomas sowell is taken seriously bc he speaks nonsense
kilois1000grams curiously enough retirement increases the likelihood of brain degenerative diseases. Look at Morgan Freeman, Tony Bennett and Michael Caine. When you keep your mind busy and active it not only increases your lifespan but also keeps you sharp. Its unfortunate that so many still believe in retirement today cuz all it is is waiting to die for 10-15 years
yep you just put a smile on my face, got home from work just rolled a fatty opened up u tube and boom, I just wished it was longer, he gives some amazing conversations with the hoover institute
The Profess to know most have never done. There is value to what they do trying to see statistically standards and relative norms. I believe that knowledge has become so micro-specialized that only the most complex and developed organizations...organizations that think in 200 and 300 year cycles, can take advantage of this information and secure the future for their heirs. Royal Societies, Vatican, Legacy foundations. Rockefeller Ford, Carnegie, etc.....
martynpotter21 That's why I use the screenname "Ignorant" on a lot of the message boards that I frequent, because of the idea that Sowell expresses here. Henry David Thoreau has a similar quote that I love: "How can we remember our ignorance, which our growth requires, when we are using our knowledge all of the time?" I believe that was in Walden. Humility is one of the first seeds of wisdom.
I'm reading the 800-page tome that is Basic Economics right now. Every page blows my mind and then I have to go back and re-read the entire chapter to make sense of it all. The section on minimum wage has the most knowledge-bombs that I've ever seen dropped on socialist economics in print-form in my life.
Minimum wage eliminates business models that rely on cheap and ineffective labor as they drive up prices. I do not understand why Dr. Sowell puts so much emphasis on it always being bad as he is also insisting there be utmost education for all (plus disciplining of those who are disrupting and dragging others down) because if this is the case, then there is in fact more economic growth as new technologies and business models grow much quicker. The same goes for regulations and regulatory prevention e.g. of excessive rental or housing prices - of course these must be temporary and be reviewed regularly ut there are way too many market defects that are often created on purpose and there is the possibility to curb this so why not do it? Particularly when so much accurate monitoring and analyzing technology stands ready.
I remember reading his columns something like 30+ years ago thinking: who is this guy!? I started buying his books in the mid-90's and he is a hero of mine for sure. Shout out to Milton Friedman too.
@@keycuz appreciating a quality as amorphous as intellect is a subtly challenging thing to do. That extends as far as one's own intellect goes. Often we do not even know how intelligent we are. So to expect to be able to quantify intellect in others is foolishly optimistic.
Socrates/Pythia/oracles of Delphi - those olde worlde Greeks knew how important the exact same thing was and had that very prominent story about it. Ironically it’s not that we don’t know this stuff as a society, it’s all been known for years, it’s just that much of society is driven by incentives relating to power and control, not by incentives by knowing the deepest truth available to us Frustrating
Timothy Miller en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_know_that_I_know_nothing Concept is old as shit. Not to discount the value of Sowell saying it, but you can be damn sure he got it from that ancient source. Read read read.
Christopher Fowler It's not quite the same though. Related, but not equivalent. One is a generalization, meaning that you can't know anything with absolute certainty, and the other means you must know what exactly you don't know with any certainty at all.
It is one of my favorite quotes from Sowell "...it takes considerable knowledge to realize the extent of your own ignorance." That quote is from one of his opinion pieces back in the 90s...really good article: www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell081798.html
@@DylanInBaja I actually read his books "Intellectuals and Society" "A Conflict of Visions" and "Basic Economics" and learned a lot. His books shaped how I think. He does a lot of original research and makes original arguments. Thomas Sowell isn't just some token black guy that parrots white writers if that's what you're implying.
Nahh who need this man when you have ice cube, lebron, jay z, beyonce and all the rappers and celebrities.Guys like Thomas and larry are the uncle tom's to the black community. Truth is fiction nowadays.
@@kevinchester6721 Sowell doesn't address actual current legitimate race grievances! Instead, he always implies that white racism plays no roll at all in Black failures. That's why. Many Blacks consider him to be just a paid sellout!
He is now nearly 90 years old and still has his wits about him and continues to teach and write books. If I make it to that age I hope i will be able to mash my peas enough so I can swallow them. When he was younger he was a beast to debate against. The debate he did in 1981 was amazing.
Dave's one hour with this gentleman is not enough and I regret not having more time. However, just one hour sparks hope for the US, that we may yet find our way out of this cultural and economic nightmare!
I know what he means by hopelessness of being on public assistance. I felt like shit because I had no purpose. I now have a job watering plants for $11/hr at The Home Depot and feel hopeful, like I have a path forward. I have a goal to get into shape so I can join my local Sheriff's office. It's cliché but I want to help people and the pay is great too.
People should feel that way while on assistance because it was never meant to sustain life and be permanent. Assistance should be used as a supplement while you better your life. Congrats to you! I was on assistance as well I know the feeling.
I enjoyed this discussion but I wanted to compliment whoever did the lighting. Both speaker's look great, very dimensional. Excellent lighting and videography.
I’ve never heard his voice until I watched this video. In my head, when I read his quotes he sounded kinda like Morgan Freeman. Turns out he’s Sylvester Stallone.
Was just lucky; clicked Rubin's page 12 minutes after he posted the video yesterday and 53 minutes after he posted it today. I don't even subscribe :O - Love Sowell.
Im in my mid 20s and I recently brought up Thomas Sowell in conversation with some close friends for the first time. They all already knew who he was. I think the left will definitely cover up him and others like Larry Elder, Coleman Hughes, etc because they disprove the radical leftist narrative. But I found this video from the TH-cam algorithm. I can only hope other young people are doing the same.
I watched this video when it was first posted and was totally impressed. It's a shame this man isn't a household name. Everyone I know has never heard of him.
A great thinker, a great scholar, a great philosopher. But a President, I don't think so. President Trump is the benchmark of a great leader of a country. He gets the job done, either himself or delegates others to do it, or they are gone.
@aifoS Films; Oh, he was selected as "Ya'llls 1st Black President symbolic," 😏 in spirit because even after research findings of Dr. Joy DeGruy, Dr. Amos Wilson, & the ABPSi, ya'll's boy Barry Sotoero still talked that RSW rhetoric "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps" BS.
“People can’t be knowledgeable about everything, but they can be knowledgeable enough to the extent of their own ignorance” What a quote right. Powerful
This 71 yo Australian thinks Mr Sowell is just wonderful. He is so vitally 'spot on'. He is so insightful; so thoroughly informed about processes and of course the economics and fiscal practices. I love his historicity and humour. I've been catching up on his much earlier videos - amazing consistency and pertinency over the decades. Like his comments re the media not be informed but "misinformed" but it is also up to each of us to get some orientation to 'facts' and context. We can't all 'win' - thank goodness. I thought Dave was deeply respectful and honoured by his guest. Very good.
56 ppl liked this so much they had to turn the screen upside down to like it again. That is how epic Sowell is. I have 3 of his books. Basic Economics, Economic Facts & Fallacies, and The Vision of the Anointed.
I really have only recently started listening to and reading the works of Thomas Sowell! I find him to be the most intelligent man on so many different things! We need people like him speaking out more often and louder!
these are the type of discussions and dialogue that we NEED to be having at the moment. Unbelievable events happening right now regarding these topics.
One of the very best Rubin Reports.. Thomas Sowell is such a class act of the highest order.. One of the more thoughtful and grounded humans on the planet. A++
He's done a lot of interviews over the phone recently (Shapiro, Crowder etc), and on syndicated broadcast way back in the day but I don't know of anything recent he's done in person. He seems a very private person.
Hes done a few on the "liberty pen" youtube channel in recent years which id recommend, but I think he's just too old these days to be flying all over the country to be doing big interviews. He just wants to take a step back and enjoy his twilight years I think
I wish he spoke more about good teachers. They literally risk their lives in many instances to teach. Or the importance of good parenting in relation to education.
I am about to graduate with a degree in Mechanical Engineering from decent state school. Even in a damned engineering department, somewhere you would think would be no nonsense and straight forward, we have a professor who has been employed since 1995, consistently gets poor class reviews from students, and goes out of his way to stick it to the administration and just do the bare minimum. I took his class on computational methods and I felt robbed. Didn't learn anything, class was a farce. At the end of the semester he tried to give everyone in the class an "incomplete" if they didn't have a homework assignment turned in and when there was a FERPA issue that someone filed against him (which was a justified issue) he stopped showing up to class. This man makes 85,000 dollars a year. So yeah, can confirm we got a serious issue going on.
As a teacher, I agree, it's ridiculous how bad teachers are not fired and unions make excuses for them, even management. I'm trying now to find the statistic that I once read about UK teachers, that only ten had been expelled from one of the unions since the 1950s or something like that!
Reminds me of this funny quote. “All great economists are tall. There are two exceptions: John Kenneth Galbraith and Milton Friedman.” -George J. Stigler
The man is so fucking authentic, he hasn't changed his tune once. Wish he'd been the first black President. He would have shaped this country beautifully. But he's way too private an individual. haha th-cam.com/video/chph_EPNNAs/w-d-xo.html
He has been offered various jobs in government throughout his life and always turns them down. Which is somewhat disappointing since he is very critical of how government is run, but isn't willing to get involved in trying to change it. Maybe he just thinks it would be hopeless swimming against the stream?
spot light Did you know that Nigerians have a higher average income than whites in America? They are still black, yet they have over come racism. Did you know that all Asians, or any type, out earn whites by a significant amount? They are still minorities, yet they have risen above any racism possibly affecting them. Did you know that there are pockets of black communities that are rich as whites, sometimes even Asians, specifically because they never received welfare? They have risen above everything. The only denominator of black poverty is welfare dependence, not racism. This dependence is pushed by the same party that literally brought slavery to America, invented the KKK, and inspired the nazis- how do you know that this same political party didn’t just find another way to enslave blacks, via welfare dependence?
@spot light Dr. TS is one of the great mind in America. Young people whose parents are Nigerian in America has the highest high school graduation rates in the city I used live in and I've seen them make more than whites averagely after graduation from college. Racism is not as prevalence as you believed. There are ethnic discrimination in most parts of the world. Black Americans did better after the civil war up till the 60s whenever LBJ give us war against poverty. Blacks who works for the DNC are the race hustlers you need to be worried about and I won't mention their names.
spot light Sure there are grievances. Like how bandaids don’t match black peoples skin, or how white kids like to dress up as Indians for halloween. Thing is, you don’t realize the fact that if any groups of minorities are able to make it to the top, (according to averages) even if they are legal immigrants who are “special”, shows that race isn’t the factor in success anymore. Meanwhile, single motherhood correlates very well with poverty, and the _average_ black single motherhood rate is 75%. (Compared to 25% whites) Keep in mind, single motherhood is directly subsidized by the government via welfare. (Intentionally or unintentionally, you decide) This keeps blacks from succeeding, due to the fact that they are getting horrible upbringings and horrible parents. And one more thing- racism, where the perpetrator is some individual citizen, especially when it is almost universally frowned upon, is nothing compared to government mandated, institutionalized racism- such as diversity hiring quotas, affirmative action in higher education, and (this one isn’t government mandated, yet) the idea in many politician’s heads that it’s a good thing that whites are being demographically replaced in a country their ancestors founded.
Thomas Sowell is the greatest American hero to ever live. Logic and intelligence is the way to solve problems, not knee jerk emotional tantrums. Love this guy.
Smiling Archer comparing Crowder's segment to Rubin's is like comparing one-pump chump to marathon man. Just because chump finished first, doesn't make him the winner.
I noticed that, too. But I think that when Crowder got Sowell, it was by phone and was an impromptu interview that didn't have a ton of planning. He said as much in his intro to the interview even though he said he had always wanted to interview Sowell. I wonder if Crowder heard about Rubin's then-future interview and didn't want to be outdone. He did work at Fox after all and that was always their strategy. I would much rather watch an in-person interview than I would listen to a telephone interview. It's weird to watch someone so brilliant as Sowell being interviewed by a comedian. I watch Crowder for laughs, not interviews with economists. I watch Rubin when I want to watch interviews with economists.
I like Crowder's show - the first to market thing just struck me as funny. His phone interview got me looking for other interviews that Sowell has done - found a few short phone interviews to listen to. But, I'm really happy Dave sat down for the full monty. It's crazy to watch Sowell's old 1980's TV appearances on Firing Line and then to realize, without Dave, there'd be no-one doing similar here in 2018. Make TV Great Again?
He just turned 94. He's the first name I bring up any February when ppl discuss figures in black history. Sowell is a national treasure and too many still don't even know who he is.
Even if you don’t agree with what he says, you have to admit, the man makes a solid, compelling, logical argument. I wish discussions about race relations and political affiliation could be civil as this discussion.
Check out the full interview here: th-cam.com/video/5Ivf9jrXGAY/w-d-xo.html
Awesome. Thank you👍
“The black family survived centuries of slavery and generations of Jim Crow, but it has disintegrated in the wake of the liberals' expansion of the welfare state.” - Thomas Sowell
Bloom County what's his/your definition of survival?
And at the center of ALL of it is one entity....not the USA. It's only the Democrat party. They were at the center of slavery. At the center of Jim Crow laws. And they are at the center of the current welfare state.
truthseeker215, I think it's a reference to a statistic I've heard him point out a few times. Basically, there was a significant percentage of black children living within two-parent households 100 years after slavery was abolished, but only 30 years after the social security act that percentage decreased dramatically. That's the context of the quote for you I guess.
Showing that welfare increased during the same time that Black families "disintegrated" is only establishing a temporal relationship between welfare and the Black family. But where is the *causal* relationship? Statistics 101: correlation is not causation. Two events happening during a similar time period does not automatically mean that event A caused event B.
Troy Longo dude be careful. Too much fact makes them implode. I love how they ignore the impact that the war on drugs and other similar policies had on the community. But of course, since black people are so lazy if you offer them free shit they will choose to not work and just free load. They never do these types of comparisons between welfare and the white community even though white people make up the majority of welfare recipients.
"People cannot be knowledgeable about everything but they can be knowledgeable about the extent of their own ignorance"
-Thomas Sowell
Amazing yes!
I just caught this video and heard what Sowell had to say about the NYC "Rubber Room". As someone who has researched these "Rubber Rooms" for close to a decade now, Sowell was indeed ignorant by the broad statement he made about them. He labeled all teachers who have had the misfortune of being assigned there as "incompetent." Yes, some are, but not all. Some have been victims of false accusations or abusive principals. That is a fact and is well documented. Another fact is that Sowell was indeed not knowledgeable about the extent of his own ignorance by making that broad claim. He was, at the time of that statement, simply not aware of facts.
@@Brooklyn3955 I am sure he is aware he is capable of making generalizations. Does that make his statement unworthy? Nobody claimed he is perfect. That's kind of the point of the quote. He is included in the quote.
He intersects there with Jordan Peterson. "Be apprehensive of your own ignorance."
I’m not so sure you can be unless through humility you seek and struggle for the truth.
Rewatching this during riots of 2020. Invaluable.
For once the YT algorithms are working. XD
Surely you cannot be misinformed, surely you have all the correct info. That entire interview is filled with hilarious contradictions. Dave: so how do we solve this. Swill: everyone needs the correct information. *five seconds later* MILTON FRIEDMAN ONCE SAID WHATS BEST IS THE ENEMY OF THE GOOD. Fucking morons lmao
@@bschonger83 nothing says justice like stealing TV's and shoes!
@@bschonger83 The elderly man speaking is one of the greatest economists of our lifetime. You might want to hold back your opinions and listen to him. He has researched the data and done studies his entire career. You on the other hand I feel only listen to media outlets that serve your narrative.
Yes. Watching this right now.
“The next time some academics tell you how important diversity is, ask how many Republicans there are in their sociology department.”- Thomas Sowell
How many Republicans with PhD's have you met ? I'll wait here .....
Bill the Cat excellent quote!
jarrod anderson I'll wait for the # of democrats. I think if you shit in one had a answer in the other, you will have 500lbs of shit.
Most Republicans cant separate religion from logical thought.
J Sickels if you ever even read the Bible or any of the proverbs, the Bible is logical thought. It teaches you that right and wrong and facts are the only thing that matters. Opinions and feelings are irrelevant when it comes to right and wrong. You think like this because you were brainwashed into thinking that religion is bad. I used to be you, not even 5 months ago. Thought the Bible was a load of horse shit. THEN I READ IT. If you want to know the difference between right and wrong, start with proverbs. Logical thought and reasoning is what is right, but what is wrong is to judge someone’s thoughts before considering their thoughts.
It saddens me this man is 89. We need him in the coming years more than ever.
I mean you can just study his teaching for years but yeah he’ll be missed.
Friedman, Sowell, Peterson, Shapiro, excellent minds that need more love
@@Gebdoe Candice Owens
He already wrote the book :)
His genius mind is still sharp but yes he will be missed.
This brilliant man should've been our first black president.
Obama was okay ig better than trump
E. K .O oh if you knew
We had a community organizer. What better than that do you want? LOL
Thomas Sowell is one of my favorite people to listen to and read. But being president is a nasty business. I think he would have fit in much better as an economic adviser for a president.
No we don't want them corrupting this intellectual.
The only thing I disagree with, is the time limit of the interview.
Lol
Attention span is shrinking. But some subjects are worth the time.
ABSOLUTELY
The full interview was twice as long! It's available on the channel as well.
Honestly if any real open minded centre to left could spend a real day with economist or true conservative the world would be a better place.
this guy actually grew up in the actual systemic racism era of jim crow
@So Called Black Man He's denying systemic racism. Not all racism.
@@kleingruznave1668 Oh so I should beleieve racist inviduals exist but not in government and business?
m mirreh Exactly these racism deniers require you to believe that although people can be racist on an individual level, although people can have personal biases, and although those people could be in positions of influence, because of “muh American exceptionalism” all those biases and prejudices go out the window when those people go about their every day lives
@Too Cool For Cardi You're projecting a bit too much there. Not once did he say anything hateful or spiteful, rather more thoughtful and articulate. He knows what he's talking about while you accuse him of being in denial and having self-hatred and apathy. You might need to have some self-reflection and ask yourself if you're the things you accuse him of.
@Too Cool For Cardi hey learn better
We need this man today now more than ever with everything that’s going on.
Well said.
Our generations take a guy like this as a joke these days. Because we have celebrities now, they dictates all our lifestyle.
So true so true
I agree
💯💯💯💯
Oh cool, a Dave Rubin video. I wonder who his gue...HOLY SHIT ITS THOMAS SOWELL *smashes play*
Jake Hoffman you really just need to click or tap it. Smashing whatever you are using is a bad idea
He's been railing against progressive idiocy for decades now. He's gotta be so frustrated
I agree, it's too bad the media pushed him down the totem pole. I've argued for the wrongs of the MSM for a long time. One of the reasons being that people like him are suppressed by the media. He should be known to the main stream.
He has attempted to derail much more than that with little fact and lots of cherry picking. He is the white conservatives token black. They look at him as if “finally a smart negro man, I wish all of your people thought like this” and he is compliant.
Its very easy to understand, Thomas Sowell Black Bad, Snoop Dogg Black Good. Its a value system inculcated into the Black Community by the Democratic Party, They enslave themselves now.
I've only been doing it for a week and I am exhausted af.
Germanikolaas Absolute dude the democratic party is not competent enough to do anything like that.... delusional. thomas sowell is taken seriously bc he speaks nonsense
It’s a crime that I had to find out about this person AFTER college.
I majored in Afro-American studies at a top research university...20 yes ago...and sadly never heard of him until now.
I’m not saying you have to be a conservative you just have to be willing to listen to those who are older and wiser
@@axidhaus 100p/c, older people are underrated and young ppl are overrated
This guy is 87!? My god if I'm this sharp when I hit that age I'll be a happy man.
Ben Allen I wish I was that sharp right now.
He has won at life
You should capitalize the "G" in God you moron.
If I'm that sharp tomorrow my entire family will wonder what is happening.
You don't get dumber with age, you're just a dummy that's old
Wow, I just checked his age because I thought his voice sounded like Gil Scot Heron. Thomas Sowell is 87! born 1930, he looks great and sounds sharp.
kilois1000grams Wow that's really amazing, I would never have guessed that he is 80+
damn… keeping your brain busy makes you seem younger
kilois1000grams curiously enough retirement increases the likelihood of brain degenerative diseases. Look at Morgan Freeman, Tony Bennett and Michael Caine. When you keep your mind busy and active it not only increases your lifespan but also keeps you sharp. Its unfortunate that so many still believe in retirement today cuz all it is is waiting to die for 10-15 years
Wow, he could pass for being in his late 60s, he looks really well and more importantly his mind is sharp.
87? Are you sure??
Thomas Sowell doesnt get celebrated like he should
he is slowly. He even got a shout out from Killer mike
@@devanshepard9118 good to hear cuz he deserves it
Of course not! Hollyweird is towards the left!
It's because he doesn't fit the stereotype.
God, I wonder why.....seems like only leftist blacks are the righteous ones, eh?
I must confess, Thomas Sowell is one of my heroes!
yep you just put a smile on my face, got home from work just rolled a fatty opened up u tube and boom, I just wished it was longer, he gives some amazing conversations with the hoover institute
Rubin does such a good job of interviewing.
hadn't read your comment yet, but i just said the same thing. he's truly a remarkable man!
I cant believe he's 87!
Condolences.
"People can't be knowledgeable about everything, but they can be knowledgeable about the extent of their own ignorance, even if they have PhDs."
Actually, I would say ESPECIALLY PhDs... if you find a PhD who doesn't seem to know what he doesn't know, you've found a liar/charlatan.
The Profess to know most have never done. There is value to what they do trying to see statistically standards and relative norms. I believe that knowledge has become so micro-specialized that only the most complex and developed organizations...organizations that think in 200 and 300 year cycles, can take advantage of this information and secure the future for their heirs. Royal Societies, Vatican, Legacy foundations. Rockefeller Ford, Carnegie, etc.....
martynpotter21 That's why I use the screenname "Ignorant" on a lot of the message boards that I frequent, because of the idea that Sowell expresses here. Henry David Thoreau has a similar quote that I love: "How can we remember our ignorance, which our growth requires, when we are using our knowledge all of the time?" I believe that was in Walden. Humility is one of the first seeds of wisdom.
88 years old when he did this interview and he is still sharper than anyone in the Democratic party
AND the Republican Party as well.
Unbelievable. I wouldn't have put him a day past 60. He looks great.
@@gayleearnhart8597 I was just going to write that!
Thats not a very high bar...
ESPECIALLY Biden 😬
I'm reading the 800-page tome that is Basic Economics right now. Every page blows my mind and then I have to go back and re-read the entire chapter to make sense of it all. The section on minimum wage has the most knowledge-bombs that I've ever seen dropped on socialist economics in print-form in my life.
It's a great book. It opened my eyes. it should be required reading for everyone at every level of government.
I got the book. I better start reading it
Edvin1011 Minimum wages don't raise average incomes. Spare us your insults, you uninformed dolt.
Does is happen to mention 'The Iron Law' of wage economics?
Minimum wage eliminates business models that rely on cheap and ineffective labor as they drive up prices. I do not understand why Dr. Sowell puts so much emphasis on it always being bad as he is also insisting there be utmost education for all (plus disciplining of those who are disrupting and dragging others down) because if this is the case, then there is in fact more economic growth as new technologies and business models grow much quicker. The same goes for regulations and regulatory prevention e.g. of excessive rental or housing prices - of course these must be temporary and be reviewed regularly ut there are way too many market defects that are often created on purpose and there is the possibility to curb this so why not do it? Particularly when so much accurate monitoring and analyzing technology stands ready.
Sowell is an American hero. I wish I'd known of him 20 years ago.
20 years ago? It would be a privilege to spend a half hour with Dr Sowell now
I did. I read some of his books. I have recommended him to people ever since
I remember reading his columns something like 30+ years ago thinking: who is this guy!? I started buying his books in the mid-90's and he is a hero of mine for sure. Shout out to Milton Friedman too.
tolpacourt I feel blessed with his paper columns as a kid. He was a big influence to me.
armstrong2052 I read his columns in the NY Post. His profile pic was so scowly. Nice to see him smile. He is a national treasure.
“People can’t be knowledgeable about everything, but they can at least be knowledgeable about the extent of their own ignorance”
Warren Buffet calls it the “circle of competence” there’s a reason all the most successful people surround themselves with other smart people
Can they? You do not know what you do not know.
It is ignorant to expect the ignorant to know they are ignorant.
@@keycuz appreciating a quality as amorphous as intellect is a subtly challenging thing to do. That extends as far as one's own intellect goes. Often we do not even know how intelligent we are. So to expect to be able to quantify intellect in others is foolishly optimistic.
Socrates/Pythia/oracles of Delphi - those olde worlde Greeks knew how important the exact same thing was and had that very prominent story about it.
Ironically it’s not that we don’t know this stuff as a society, it’s all been known for years, it’s just that much of society is driven by incentives relating to power and control, not by incentives by knowing the deepest truth available to us
Frustrating
@ 19:15
*"People can't be knowledgeable about everything. But they can be knowledgeable about the extent of their own ignorance..."*
*Woah... :o*
Timothy Miller Yep, this quote is pure gold.
Timothy Miller en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_know_that_I_know_nothing
Concept is old as shit. Not to discount the value of Sowell saying it, but you can be damn sure he got it from that ancient source. Read read read.
Christopher Fowler
It's not quite the same though. Related, but not equivalent.
One is a generalization, meaning that you can't know anything with absolute certainty, and the other means you must know what exactly you don't know with any certainty at all.
"The ancient Oracle said that I was the wisest of all the Greeks, this is because of all the Greeks, I know that I know nothing"
It is one of my favorite quotes from Sowell "...it takes considerable knowledge to realize the extent of your own ignorance." That quote is from one of his opinion pieces back in the 90s...really good article:
www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell081798.html
This man is probably the only time I would agree for cloning.
Ha ha,Good one !
The soul can’t be cloned. You’d end up with a body with no mind ...a.k.a. a liberal Sowell 🤣🤣
I severely wish everyone had the common sense that Mr.Sowell has
Sowell is a national treasure. His eventual passing will be a tremendous blow to the intellectual vitality of the country.
I doubt his death will even get reported on in mainstream media.
+Mario mario racist hater
I agree
John Welden CNN won't he's too great for their fake garbage.
Absolutely spot on.
It's so depressing to think that after a life time of work Thomas Sowell is going to die in an America that's even more broken than we he started.
I think people are listening to Sowell more than ever now, because more and more we are seeing how right he is.
Sainte Jeanne d'Arc what people ?
I have to agree. Why do you think this is the case?
That may be, but it's still too bad that he wasn't listened to closer before.
Only white people have this type of nostalgia.
Articulate, factual, balanced - everything the current debate on discrimination isn't. The man is a national treasure and a global asset.
Yeah, it makes you feel better that a black man can say everything you think. Sowell made a career of that.
@@DylanInBaja I actually read his books "Intellectuals and Society" "A Conflict of Visions" and "Basic Economics" and learned a lot. His books shaped how I think. He does a lot of original research and makes original arguments. Thomas Sowell isn't just some token black guy that parrots white writers if that's what you're implying.
I could listen to Thomas Sowell speak forever , such an inspirational person
This is one wise man. He should be revered by the black community and all communities
Any community
Nahh who need this man when you have ice cube, lebron, jay z, beyonce and all the rappers and celebrities.Guys like Thomas and larry are the uncle tom's to the black community.
Truth is fiction nowadays.
Why do blacks not like him
MiximusRider because he doesn’t toe the party line. He has his own opinion so that makes him an Uncle Tom.
@@kevinchester6721 Sowell doesn't address actual current legitimate race grievances! Instead, he always implies that white racism plays no roll at all in Black failures. That's why. Many Blacks consider him to be just a paid sellout!
This man is an intellectual juggernaut and he does not get the attention he deserves, especially given the current discourse.
"You don't need a committee...it's econ one, in the first two weeks." Love it!!
He is now nearly 90 years old and still has his wits about him and continues to teach and write books. If I make it to that age I hope i will be able to mash my peas enough so I can swallow them.
When he was younger he was a beast to debate against. The debate he did in 1981 was amazing.
harddobe do you have a link to that 1981 debate?
He’s a Marine and well educated, he made it happen.
Imagine the cognitive dissonance and indoctrination required to dislike this.
Dr. Sowell is absolutely one of the best thinkers of our time. Thank you for interviewing him!
"He beat me senseless with facts." Excellent way of putting it Dave.
Probably a bunch of cherry picked facts. Larry Elder and Ben Shapiro are notorious for that.
He beat me senseless with LOGIC and FACTS
Troy Longo you won’t know unless you watch
@@troylongo3099 when you are promoting an argument why wouldn't you use the facts that agree with your stance?
Who’s here during the stupid looting?
The criminal looting
The domestic terrorism
Me
The brainwashing
The inevitable programmed response by the 'useful idiots' after a lifetime of ideological subversion.
Dave's one hour with this gentleman is not enough and I regret not having more time.
However, just one hour sparks hope for the US, that we may yet find our way out of this cultural and economic nightmare!
I know what he means by hopelessness of being on public assistance. I felt like shit because I had no purpose. I now have a job watering plants for $11/hr at The Home Depot and feel hopeful, like I have a path forward. I have a goal to get into shape so I can join my local Sheriff's office. It's cliché but I want to help people and the pay is great too.
Joe Blow That's how I remember feeling going to public schools.
Go Joe! I think I know what you mean and how you felt. Thanks.
People should feel that way while on assistance because it was never meant to sustain life and be permanent. Assistance should be used as a supplement while you better your life. Congrats to you! I was on assistance as well I know the feeling.
Like the song says "everybody needs somebody sometimes" cheers bud and good for you,I hope you're still crushing it.
Joe, you become a cop?
When JBP is doing better, I want Rubin to host a conversation between him and Sowell.
I love and miss JBP :( he helped me become a better person
I’d pay to watch that conversation. Such admirable people.
I think this is a fucking great idea! I feel like they agree on a lot but it would be interesting to see where any disagreenents might be
I would pay money to watch that
And larry elder there too
I enjoyed this discussion but I wanted to compliment whoever did the lighting. Both speaker's look great, very dimensional. Excellent lighting and videography.
Great interview with a great man.
His arguments seem completely illogical to me.
This man should be president.
Oh absolutely
He's too smart for that
America would never vote him in... Whites like the way he talks they not voting for him though
He’s too old but I agree he would’ve been.
Intellect and leadership two different attributes Sowell s a thinker not a politician.
“Groups that rose from poverty to prosperity seldom did so by having their own racial or ethnic leaders to follow.” - Thomas Sowell
This conversation was soo good that it felt very short. We need more!
TheAnubite It was so unbearable for me. Incredibly uncomfortable.
Tavon Hawkins how
I’ve never heard his voice until I watched this video. In my head, when I read his quotes he sounded kinda like Morgan Freeman.
Turns out he’s Sylvester Stallone.
Never clicked a notification so fast....
Was just lucky; clicked Rubin's page 12 minutes after he posted the video yesterday and 53 minutes after he posted it today. I don't even subscribe :O - Love Sowell.
Clicked notification Like The Fist Of An Angry God
Thomas Sowell, almost 90, still sharp as a tack and takes to New Media like a duck to water. Best timeline lads.
May God bless this man
May your imaginary deity bless you with the power to kick religion out of your life
This genius will only be recognized for his wisdom once he has passed.
He's being recognized right now by people like you. Its up to us to spread his knowledge where we can.
More likely, his memory will be cast down the memory hole.
Im in my mid 20s and I recently brought up Thomas Sowell in conversation with some close friends for the first time. They all already knew who he was. I think the left will definitely cover up him and others like Larry Elder, Coleman Hughes, etc because they disprove the radical leftist narrative. But I found this video from the TH-cam algorithm. I can only hope other young people are doing the same.
Next guest to bug Dave about- Ron Paul! All aboard the hype train, toot toot
Lump lumpson walter wilams would be great as well.
Yes!
I think Dr Cornel West would be good to hear immediately after Sowell, both African American geniuses but with some very different ideas.
Ive been saying ron paul since 2015
Yes please, do get Ron Paul on!
Love this guy, one the greatest minds of our time, hope he will live forever
I literally can't stop smiling watching this absolute gem of a man. I love him
This man has such elegance about him
Amen!
Thomas Sowell = Captain Obvious Brilliance
When the facts don't fit a person's narrative they just dismiss it
Amazing how true I’ve found this to be
That’s true but I’m still trying to find out where his dismissed systemic racism ... this is just clickbait
I watched this video when it was first posted and was totally impressed. It's a shame this man isn't a household name. Everyone I know has never heard of him.
Love listening to this man. He is a brilliant mind and a good soul. God bless him.
I’m 34 and ever since a small boy I’ve watched the welfare state slowly destroy people and their communities 🇬🇧
Vouchers. I used to be against them. I changed my mind when I started to pay more attention to what was going on in the public schools.
Wonderful, classy, a true example to us all. Thanks Dr. Sowell
I just love Thomas Sowell’s wisdom, I could listen to him all day, he should run for President!!!!!!!
This guy should’ve been the first black president or A president.
If he showed the slightest interest in political office, he wouldnt have survived the 90's.
A great thinker, a great scholar, a great philosopher. But a President, I don't think so. President Trump is the benchmark of a great leader of a country. He gets the job done, either himself or delegates others to do it, or they are gone.
@aifoS Films; Oh, he was selected as "Ya'llls 1st Black President symbolic," 😏 in spirit because even after research findings of Dr. Joy DeGruy, Dr. Amos Wilson, & the ABPSi, ya'll's boy Barry Sotoero still talked that RSW rhetoric "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps" BS.
"People can't be knowledgeable about everything, but they can be knowledgeable about the extent of their own ignorance." Well said, Dr. Sowell.
“People can’t be knowledgeable about everything, but they can be knowledgeable enough to the extent of their own ignorance”
What a quote right. Powerful
I wish more black conservative would step forward. Come to think of it, I wish more conservative of every persuasion would step forward.
@akakiashi i don't disagree with that. or libertarian which is where i feel i fall.
Candace Owens, Brandon Tatum, Bryson Gray, Larry Elder, Shelby Steele....
Im a black conservative and its really hard for me to express my point of view to people including my family ... so I stay quiet for the most part
I will always be a Sowell man. God Bless this man, may he live another 50 years
Someone needs to make a movie about him.
It would not do him justice.
They won't. If they did, then the black community will NEVER vote Democrat.
Free to choose just came out with a trailer for Thomas Sowell
This was too short. should be 3 hours long, at least. Glad he's finally been on, though. Brilliant, brilliant man.
Thomas Sowell is brilliant. He has such wisdom and common sense. The world would be a softer and far better place if more people listened to him!!
This man has a superb mind. I wish I'd heard of him at university
rubin: "i was progressive till larry elder beat me to death on air with facts" LMFAO
Such a brilliant, educated, reasonable man.. And actually helping the black community, to the actual facts of what's going on.
This 71 yo Australian thinks Mr Sowell is just wonderful. He is so vitally 'spot on'. He is so insightful; so thoroughly informed about processes and of course the economics and fiscal practices. I love his historicity and humour. I've been catching up on his much earlier videos - amazing consistency and pertinency over the decades. Like his comments re the media not be informed but "misinformed" but it is also up to each of us to get some orientation to 'facts' and context. We can't all 'win' - thank goodness. I thought Dave was deeply respectful and honoured by his guest. Very good.
Mr. Thomas Sowell is on the short list of people that I would like to have lunch with and talk about the world.
56 ppl liked this so much they had to turn the screen upside down to like it again. That is how epic Sowell is. I have 3 of his books. Basic Economics, Economic Facts & Fallacies, and The Vision of the Anointed.
Basic economics is great, I'm nearly finished with it. It should be required reading for everyone
I really have only recently started listening to and reading the works of Thomas Sowell! I find him to be the most intelligent man on so many different things! We need people like him speaking out more often and louder!
The greatest living public intellectual.
That is not really saying much. The public sphere is dominated mainly by sophists and pseudo intellectuals on the left and right
"It's not complicated, it's hard to do." - Thomas Sowell
these are the type of discussions and dialogue that we NEED to be having at the moment. Unbelievable events happening right now regarding these topics.
His voice still sounds like he’s 30 yrs old!
He has put sense and wisdom into his thoughts and ideas. He is a fantastic example of a great man; calm, collected, cohesive
One of the very best Rubin Reports.. Thomas Sowell is such a class act of the highest order.. One of the more thoughtful and grounded humans on the planet. A++
Thank you so much for doing this. Any other interview with Dr. Sowell has just been over podcast/radio and rarely in person so this was a treat!
zero_consequences I’ll have to check out the podcast interviews. If you’re not kidding, apparently you haven’t searched his name on TH-cam.
He's done a lot of interviews over the phone recently (Shapiro, Crowder etc), and on syndicated broadcast way back in the day but I don't know of anything recent he's done in person. He seems a very private person.
Hes done a few on the "liberty pen" youtube channel in recent years which id recommend, but I think he's just too old these days to be flying all over the country to be doing big interviews. He just wants to take a step back and enjoy his twilight years I think
zero_consequences he’s been on the news, continues to write, and accepts interviews. And He’s all over TH-cam!
This is a very recent interview!
I wish he spoke more about good teachers. They literally risk their lives in many instances to teach. Or the importance of good parenting in relation to education.
Mr. Sowell is an economic genius. I love listening to him. Dave, please, invite him again, on any subject.
I am about to graduate with a degree in Mechanical Engineering from decent state school. Even in a damned engineering department, somewhere you would think would be no nonsense and straight forward, we have a professor who has been employed since 1995, consistently gets poor class reviews from students, and goes out of his way to stick it to the administration and just do the bare minimum.
I took his class on computational methods and I felt robbed. Didn't learn anything, class was a farce. At the end of the semester he tried to give everyone in the class an "incomplete" if they didn't have a homework assignment turned in and when there was a FERPA issue that someone filed against him (which was a justified issue) he stopped showing up to class.
This man makes 85,000 dollars a year. So yeah, can confirm we got a serious issue going on.
WARLOCH24 I can relate.
He just needs higher pay
As a teacher, I agree, it's ridiculous how bad teachers are not fired and unions make excuses for them, even management. I'm trying now to find the statistic that I once read about UK teachers, that only ten had been expelled from one of the unions since the 1950s or something like that!
Interesting how this video shows up in my recommended at this time.
Just finished listening to "Knowledge and Decisions" - what a book.
Only way to top this is to book an interview with the ghost of Milton Friedman.
I'm the same height as Milton Friedman according to Sowell! Cool!
Reminds me of this funny quote. “All great economists are tall. There are two exceptions: John Kenneth Galbraith and Milton Friedman.” -George J. Stigler
As someone with a Msc. in Applied Economics I'm very offended :P (LOL I'll never make an impact in the field, a girl can dream though haha!)
The man is so fucking authentic, he hasn't changed his tune once. Wish he'd been the first black President. He would have shaped this country beautifully. But he's way too private an individual. haha th-cam.com/video/chph_EPNNAs/w-d-xo.html
He has been offered various jobs in government throughout his life and always turns them down. Which is somewhat disappointing since he is very critical of how government is run, but isn't willing to get involved in trying to change it. Maybe he just thinks it would be hopeless swimming against the stream?
Love listening to the wisdom of this man. Currently reading his book “The Quest for Cosmic Justice.” It’s such a great and relevant read.
A thoroughly decent, thoughtful and honest man. An asset to the USA.
spot light Did you know that Nigerians have a higher average income than whites in America? They are still black, yet they have over come racism.
Did you know that all Asians, or any type, out earn whites by a significant amount? They are still minorities, yet they have risen above any racism possibly affecting them.
Did you know that there are pockets of black communities that are rich as whites, sometimes even Asians, specifically because they never received welfare? They have risen above everything.
The only denominator of black poverty is welfare dependence, not racism. This dependence is pushed by the same party that literally brought slavery to America, invented the KKK, and inspired the nazis- how do you know that this same political party didn’t just find another way to enslave blacks, via welfare dependence?
@spot light Dr. TS is one of the great mind in America. Young people whose parents are Nigerian in America has the highest high school graduation rates in the city I used live in and I've seen them make more than whites averagely after graduation from college. Racism is not as prevalence as you believed. There are ethnic discrimination in most parts of the world. Black Americans did better after the civil war up till the 60s whenever LBJ give us war against poverty. Blacks who works for the DNC are the race hustlers you need to be worried about and I won't mention their names.
spot light Sure there are grievances. Like how bandaids don’t match black peoples skin, or how white kids like to dress up as Indians for halloween.
Thing is, you don’t realize the fact that if any groups of minorities are able to make it to the top, (according to averages) even if they are legal immigrants who are “special”, shows that race isn’t the factor in success anymore. Meanwhile, single motherhood correlates very well with poverty, and the _average_ black single motherhood rate is 75%. (Compared to 25% whites) Keep in mind, single motherhood is directly subsidized by the government via welfare. (Intentionally or unintentionally, you decide) This keeps blacks from succeeding, due to the fact that they are getting horrible upbringings and horrible parents.
And one more thing- racism, where the perpetrator is some individual citizen, especially when it is almost universally frowned upon, is nothing compared to government mandated, institutionalized racism- such as diversity hiring quotas, affirmative action in higher education, and (this one isn’t government mandated, yet) the idea in many politician’s heads that it’s a good thing that whites are being demographically replaced in a country their ancestors founded.
Wild... This was posted two years ago... And it sounds as though he's commenting on the madness happening right now!
Thomas Sowell is the greatest American hero to ever live. Logic and intelligence is the way to solve problems, not knee jerk emotional tantrums. Love this guy.
I still think that Crowder wins, because he got his Sowell segment published first, but massive appreciation for both of you for interviewing Sowell.
Smiling Archer comparing Crowder's segment to Rubin's is like comparing one-pump chump to marathon man. Just because chump finished first, doesn't make him the winner.
I noticed that, too. But I think that when Crowder got Sowell, it was by phone and was an impromptu interview that didn't have a ton of planning. He said as much in his intro to the interview even though he said he had always wanted to interview Sowell. I wonder if Crowder heard about Rubin's then-future interview and didn't want to be outdone. He did work at Fox after all and that was always their strategy. I would much rather watch an in-person interview than I would listen to a telephone interview. It's weird to watch someone so brilliant as Sowell being interviewed by a comedian. I watch Crowder for laughs, not interviews with economists. I watch Rubin when I want to watch interviews with economists.
I like Crowder's show - the first to market thing just struck me as funny. His phone interview got me looking for other interviews that Sowell has done - found a few short phone interviews to listen to. But, I'm really happy Dave sat down for the full monty. It's crazy to watch Sowell's old 1980's TV appearances on Firing Line and then to realize, without Dave, there'd be no-one doing similar here in 2018. Make TV Great Again?
Corey Harding, we'd just need someone to have a distinctive voice like WFB.
Shapiro did it before both of them.
"if this, then that" vs "the world ought to be". Loved that phrase!
He just turned 94. He's the first name I bring up any February when ppl discuss figures in black history. Sowell is a national treasure and too many still don't even know who he is.
Thomas Sowell, you're my role model. I want you to know that.
The TH-cam algorithm has quite the sense of humor
Even if you don’t agree with what he says, you have to admit, the man makes a solid, compelling, logical argument. I wish discussions about race relations and political affiliation could be civil as this discussion.
Too bad antifa and brainwashed leftists doesn't like to listen.
I wish same =)