I love the way the game hits big slowdown right as the Ultra starts up, like the game itself is going 'OH SHIT WHAT THE FUUUUUCK' first time I've seen that kara used in a match, and so clutch! damn, great stuff
Man... the game actually slowed down because of the input, that or it just wanted us to see something unbelievably ridiculous. That was a super clutch ending with Taison's victory over Daigo. Very good stuff!!
Yeah, that was an EX armor cancel. Abel has a similar glitch using EX change of direction that allows you to add armor to his ultra, roll, and tornado throw.
@soocl0se - You don't know about the changes made between the Japanese and US versions of Street Fighter concerning Vega, Bison, and Balrog? If I remember correctly, they changed Bison's name to Balrog to avoid some lawsuit.
the only time the arcade version will ever slow down like that i bet. u wont see it any other time other than this time when theres still a fireball going
Assuming the armour cancel thingy is just to by him a little more time with the Ultra input in case he could have otherwise got hit before he completed it. Curious that it didn't cost him any EX meter though. Is that normal for the technique?
i believe... its not just just flash but it allows more frame to input the ultra. for example It's easier to do the cancel off a ex because you confirming off the b f b as oppose to b f b f..... it allows more room for error and more time to react. for instance if he were to ultra he might of gotten fire balled before actually finishing the input...but he confirm off ex thus giving him more time absorb and confirm to ultra.
*Amazing* finish. I was about to say that Daigo gets ultra'd through fireballs a lot, but considering that's basically the extent of Ryu's midrange pressure game it's not too surprising.
ive tried this the thing is that you have to cancel into the ultra before the ex move even starts. THATS how quick you gotta do it. you can even super after it.
thank you for referring to that vid. I've been curious since i've seen Maeda do it. Honestly though, i'm not sure why he uses the OS since it's usually counters fireballs with it.
Usually the kara-dash into ultra isn't that important, as ultra cleanly goes through fireballs of any # of hits. However if your ultra bar isn't full yet it could charge it up a bit before it goes off. ;p
2:35 Ok ive done that in training mode,and ONCE in a match against my friend.but my friend isnt Daigo Umehara,and it wasn't with an assload of people spectating.Holy Hell.....
@venom0237: I know it wasn't a focus. I was actually replying to ticksmilk because he claimed he could kara-cancel an FA into ultra. Sorry for the confusion. @pinoy929: as somebody already stated: kara-cancelled ex moves don't use up any meter.
Its not a kara move, its armor cancel. Armor canceling when during the "absorb" of an armor move right before the hit frames activate you cancel into ultra.
What excactly was the point of doing that at the end? Wouldn't the ultra have gone straight trough the fireball aswell? Or did he get some more time to react doing what he did?xD
I think He did a focus attack, dash back, and did a Ultra Right then. The reason why I think its not double armor is the fact that the EX hadoken was still there when he did the ultra, Double armor mean the 2 hits both got absorbed
Ok, I'll just say this and not argue because arguments get really dumb around here. Ex rush cancel into ultra makes the ultra attempt safer. If the fireball never comes out, you just do the ex rush punch. If he does the fireball it cancels into the ultra. If you try to guess fireball and throw out a random ultra, its much more dangerous than a ex rush punch. That is why you would do that cancel instead of a straight up ultra. Option Selects are HUGE in high level play.
It IS essentially a cancel...this is more of a reflex thing...he expects a single fireball...and the ex dash will go through it but as soon as he recognize it's ex fireball...he cancel it into ultra which will allow him to go through the second hit of the ultra...
it counts as kara cancelling, the reason why its possible because for some reason, the game registers the move if you input it in a split frame.. within 1frame i think same goes for double armor.. its a regular ultra charge.. but what you do is simple ch b. f.PPP or f.KKK (this would register your EX dash punches) then back forward PPP or KKK again.. its simple to do against a EX fireball or RYu's super.. whats really difficult is RYU's ultra.. that requires a split frame second
well i dunno. armor cancel, rog ex kara cancel. with kara throws you are canceling the startup frames of a normal into a throw right? you never get that normal. well in that aspect you are just using the super armor, the rest of the rush punch never comes out
Well, if you FA lvl2 or 3, You can start charging TAP as you release FA, dash back, release TAP, then Ultra(not a cancel) and it'll link. KPKKK corner KKPKK Not corner.
He's not dashing, it's a simple: ch. b, f, b+2P/2K, f+3P/3K That's the easiest way to do it. Not b, f+2P, b, f+3P. ch=charge b=back f=forward 2P/K=two punches/kicks 3P/K=three punches/kicks
ive tried this wit abel and suprisingly after i absorbed the hit wit the ex "change of direction" i did an ex anti air. it was pretty cool. but doing his ultra isnt as easy for me. balrogs is much easier after absorbing
its easier if you just slide your fingers down or input 1 section then the next on the buttons while inputting the ultra motion, it'll make your execution better for instance charge B, F+PPP, B, F+kkk instead of your interpretation as B, F B+PP THEN f+PPP your kara wont be accurate in that case hope this helps
Couldn't Balrog have just ultra'd anyway without the armor cancel? He was close enough and the ultra goes through fireballs... I guess he was just being fancy?
its kara cancelling, normally you kant cancel anything into an ultra unless you FADC its not a normal focus tho, it IS an EX cancel into ultra, since its a glitch it doesnt recognize the EX focus since it goes right into the ultra.. this also is the same situation as kara cancelling a super.. it doesnt consume a bar and super will still come out oh and you can also double armor that only consumes 1 bar however these shenanigans only work with boxer
i dont see the problem...he is absorbing the first hit of the fireball with FA, and then immediately dashes into his ultra, u have to be REALLY fast 2 pull this shit off
as for the ex not draining. It's because he cancels the ex immediately it doesn't registers the ex actually being used. So he could theoretically also absorb 2 hits if he were to cancel an ex for another ex and still use 1 ex bar total. I don't think anyone using ex cancel to ex tho in their practical regime.
this was not a dash ultra. this was an ex kara cancel of an ex dashing straight to Ultra. not that hard to do but you have to predict the ex move. charge B then F B+PP ,F+PPP i can get it but not on the drop of a dime. search balrog or bison ex kara cancel
amazing reflex off the cancel into ultra
I love the way the game hits big slowdown right as the Ultra starts up, like the game itself is going 'OH SHIT WHAT THE FUUUUUCK'
first time I've seen that kara used in a match, and so clutch! damn, great stuff
never seen that kind of ending before. crazy.
So thats why! Didn't think it had a purpose:) Thanks
Man... the game actually slowed down because of the input, that or it just wanted us to see something unbelievably ridiculous. That was a super clutch ending with Taison's victory over Daigo. Very good stuff!!
Love the finish.. this would be extremely hard to execute under pressure.. This guy is just amazing
Wtf? How did 2:37 ultra come out of a focus so fast like that?!
That EX cancel at the end is hard as shit man...
I've read about this somewhere before, never seen it used like that. Insane gameplay from them both
OMG! that was awesome!
he did dash, just activated it hella fast
Yeah, that was an EX armor cancel. Abel has a similar glitch using EX change of direction that allows you to add armor to his ultra, roll, and tornado throw.
@ElectricWizard616 agree its like a 3s parry to super thing totally awesome
I am one for Diago but that win by Maeda Taison was well deserved. Great use of an opening!
@soocl0se - You don't know about the changes made between the Japanese and US versions of Street Fighter concerning Vega, Bison, and Balrog? If I remember correctly, they changed Bison's name to Balrog to avoid some lawsuit.
the only time the arcade version will ever slow down like that i bet. u wont see it any other time other than this time when theres still a fireball going
Very GG.
Somebody get this man his fight money.
Wow!!That Was Frickin' Amazing...considering the pressure Daigo was givin him.
Can someone list the input on this? I notice that he doesn't dash out of the focus into ultra, how is this done?!
GODLY, BISON, SKILL, GRANDMASTERS
wow never seen that done b4. but its focus to ulra simple as dat
Assuming the armour cancel thingy is just to by him a little more time with the Ultra input in case he could have otherwise got hit before he completed it.
Curious that it didn't cost him any EX meter though. Is that normal for the technique?
i am just speechless, how the hell does that even work?
Its just an option select, if the armor absorbs a hit in the begining the ultra comes out, if not u just get the ex dash punch
OMFG! That's totally uncalled for!
So the bison player linked his ultra? I am in awe.
2:35 THAT IS AMAZING TIMING! 0_0
I read about the armor cancel ultra. May I know how to do it?
And as VacuousTerminus said, did he really need to do that or was it just being fancy?
You're wrong. It's a focus. Boxer's meter doesn't go down one bar when he cancels into Ultra.
I never saw anyone do the armored ultra in a real match, much less against Daigo Umehara! It might have been an accident but it looked sweet as hell.
what exactly is the input for 2:35?
i believe...
its not just just flash but it allows more frame to input the ultra.
for example
It's easier to do the cancel off a ex because you confirming off the b f b as oppose to b f b f.....
it allows more room for error and more time to react. for instance if he were to ultra he might of gotten fire balled before actually finishing the input...but he confirm off ex thus giving him more time absorb and confirm to ultra.
*Amazing* finish.
I was about to say that Daigo gets ultra'd through fireballs a lot, but considering that's basically the extent of Ryu's midrange pressure game it's not too surprising.
ive tried this the thing is that you have to cancel into the ultra before the ex move even starts. THATS how quick you gotta do it. you can even super after it.
wow outstanding play by boxer- that endind with fucking epic.
thank you for referring to that vid. I've been curious since i've seen Maeda do it. Honestly though, i'm not sure why he uses the OS since it's usually counters fireballs with it.
Does the arcade version usually slow down like that at the end or was it the video?
If its a cancel what did he cancel exactly?
Holy fuck I just realized; how friggin insane Maeda is now lol....
i'm confused, i thought the armor ultra would take up an ex bar?? but it didn't!
Usually the kara-dash into ultra isn't that important, as ultra cleanly goes through fireballs of any # of hits.
However if your ultra bar isn't full yet it could charge it up a bit before it goes off. ;p
DESTRUCTION!
2:35 Ok ive done that in training mode,and ONCE in a match against my friend.but my friend isnt Daigo Umehara,and it wasn't with an assload of people spectating.Holy Hell.....
wow, so it's possible to cancel the FA into ultra without dashing?
I think the game lagged a bit when Maeda did that ultra focus.
fucking beautiful.
It wasn't a focus attack.. it was EX Armor.
Buss UP!!
what is ex armor absorbing and how to do it, dude?
@venom0237:
I know it wasn't a focus. I was actually replying to ticksmilk because he claimed he could kara-cancel an FA into ultra. Sorry for the confusion.
@pinoy929: as somebody already stated: kara-cancelled ex moves don't use up any meter.
Its not a kara move, its armor cancel. Armor canceling when during the "absorb" of an armor move right before the hit frames activate you cancel into ultra.
What excactly was the point of doing that at the end? Wouldn't the ultra have gone straight trough the fireball aswell? Or did he get some more time to react doing what he did?xD
I think He did a focus attack, dash back, and did a Ultra Right then. The reason why I think its not double armor is the fact that the EX hadoken was still there when he did the ultra, Double armor mean the 2 hits both got absorbed
In case u wanna argue anymore, go youtube "Balrog's superarmor cancel option select". Period.
Ok, I'll just say this and not argue because arguments get really dumb around here. Ex rush cancel into ultra makes the ultra attempt safer. If the fireball never comes out, you just do the ex rush punch. If he does the fireball it cancels into the ultra. If you try to guess fireball and throw out a random ultra, its much more dangerous than a ex rush punch. That is why you would do that cancel instead of a straight up ultra. Option Selects are HUGE in high level play.
Holy crap @ daigo's BP!
yeah it was a cancelled Focus Attack into an ultra that he did. I've never seen it until now though.
It IS essentially a cancel...this is more of a reflex thing...he expects a single fireball...and the ex dash will go through it but as soon as he recognize it's ex fireball...he cancel it into ultra which will allow him to go through the second hit of the ultra...
back, forward twice (dash), back, forward + PPP
it counts as kara cancelling,
the reason why its possible because for some reason, the game registers the move if you input it in a split frame.. within 1frame i think
same goes for double armor..
its a regular ultra charge.. but what you do is simple
ch b. f.PPP or f.KKK (this would register your EX dash punches) then back forward PPP or KKK again.. its simple to do against a EX fireball or RYu's super.. whats really difficult is RYU's ultra.. that requires a split frame second
no, you're wrong. ex rush to ultra doesn't use any meter. that's why you didnt see a bar get used. its somewhat of a glitch.
can you find me a link please?
any links?
what the hell is going on at 2:35?
lol i did that twice and still to this day idk how i did it
well i dunno. armor cancel, rog ex kara cancel. with kara throws you are canceling the startup frames of a normal into a throw right? you never get that normal. well in that aspect you are just using the super armor, the rest of the rush punch never comes out
Holy shit best ending. Best ex-armor cancel ultra ever, so gdlk.
I just became a taisonfanboy.
charge, f+PP, b, f+PPP. You MUST absorb a hit during the ex straight/upper/whatever to kara cancel into the ultra.
Well, if you FA lvl2 or 3, You can start charging TAP as you release FA, dash back, release TAP, then Ultra(not a cancel) and it'll link.
KPKKK corner
KKPKK Not corner.
asdas
at 2:32, he does cancel an EX straight, not FA
It was a focus attack he cancelled into ultra
He's not dashing, it's a simple:
ch. b, f, b+2P/2K, f+3P/3K
That's the easiest way to do it. Not b, f+2P, b, f+3P.
ch=charge
b=back
f=forward
2P/K=two punches/kicks
3P/K=three punches/kicks
OMFG Mike Byson Owned
I only said it because I've done it that way but I didn't know you could cancel it with his ex rush punches. good to know
@noobpwnager hmm, good point never knew the move name but i think i see wat ur talking about.
both of balrog/bison's wins were sexy, especially the 1st
WOW!
Seriously, how to the fuck did he manage it to do that FC into Ultra in such a tiny period of time? That is just impossible!!
its possible to do it by accident.
ive done it a few times, when i wanted to ultra thru a fireball, but the fireball "hit" me b4 i ultra'd.
maeda taison makes me proud being a balrog player
u have no idea wat ur talkin about do you? do you kno wat option selecting is?
holly fucker .. did u guys just see that? that balrog is godly
sick!!!!!
Bison Wonderful !!
I guess I didn't add a "reply" comment to blazinspeedz510 below. I was attempting to explain that you can FA and link your ultra with Boxer.
ive tried this wit abel and suprisingly after i absorbed the hit wit the ex "change of direction" i did an ex anti air. it was pretty cool. but doing his ultra isnt as easy for me. balrogs is much easier after absorbing
perfect fukin timin
its easier if you just slide your fingers down or input 1 section then the next on the buttons while inputting the ultra motion, it'll make your execution better
for instance
charge B, F+PPP, B, F+kkk
instead of your interpretation as B, F B+PP THEN f+PPP
your kara wont be accurate in that case
hope this helps
Couldn't Balrog have just ultra'd anyway without the armor cancel? He was close enough and the ultra goes through fireballs... I guess he was just being fancy?
its kara cancelling, normally you kant cancel anything into an ultra unless you FADC
its not a normal focus tho, it IS an EX cancel into ultra, since its a glitch it doesnt recognize the EX focus since it goes right into the ultra.. this also is the same situation as kara cancelling a super.. it doesnt consume a bar and super will still come out
oh and you can also double armor that only consumes 1 bar
however these shenanigans only work with boxer
It was an EX. You cancelled the EX before using the meter. You can do EX cancel to super too because of this little glitch.
i dont see the problem...he is absorbing the first hit of the fireball with FA, and then immediately dashes into his ultra, u have to be REALLY fast 2 pull this shit off
You sure about that? As far as I know, kara-cancelling out of an FA is impossible.
but you're welcome to prove me wrong.
Talk about "red parry" to Ultra. xD
thats why i dony get anything.there is some kind person who can explain it to us!
as for the ex not draining. It's because he cancels the ex immediately it doesn't registers the ex actually being used.
So he could theoretically also absorb 2 hits if he were to cancel an ex for another ex and still use 1 ex bar total.
I don't think anyone using ex cancel to ex tho in their practical regime.
@kgreedi Too True.
this was not a dash ultra. this was an ex kara cancel of an ex dashing straight to Ultra. not that hard to do but you have to predict the ex move.
charge B then F B+PP ,F+PPP
i can get it but not on the drop of a dime.
search balrog or bison ex kara cancel
2:48 Bison wins?