SETTLE & CARLISLE line steam train era cab ride 1967
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Filmed in 1967 from the driver’s cab of a Diesel Multiple Unit train, the journey from Skipton to Carlisle via Settle, Ribblehead (the viaduct still had two tracks), Ais Gill Summit and Appleby. We call at all stations that were then open.
We pass steam-hauled freights and the southbound diesel-hauled Thames - Clyde Express.
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Just Superb !! So much Railway history lost forever on this line but at least its still in use and has a number of ex Midland Railway signal boxes that remain on the route.
I don't know if you read these comments much, but THANK YOU for sharing these priceless films. Cab views are exceedingly rare and yo have captured some wonderful scenes. I, for one, am extremely grateful.
Yes Thank you very much.
Having just watched this fantastic film, may I say how very, very grateful I am too? It's given me so much pleasure to watch from - as it were - a front row seat throughout the hilly journey from Settle to Carlisle across the "Backbone of England".
Nicely said, Neil. Me too.
Thanks for putting this up. Great views through the front cab, informative and a great chance to spot useful details for modelling.
Its painful to watch and tearful at the catastrophic senseless waste of track and station closures.
Tell me, if a business, let's say a supermarket, doesn't make enough money from a store in an area that is fully developed (ie no major house building going on in the immediate vicinity) to cover its costs what does it do? That's right the store gets closed, but isn't that, by your logic just a waste of resources?
The same was true for the railways before nationalisation, they had to make a profit and stations or lines that did not make enough to cover their costs were targeted for closure. When nationalisation came along, the first wave of closures were the stations and routes that the big 4 were looking at cutting. The next phase was the rationalisation of the network by removing duplicated lines and lines that could not earn enough to justify retention.
The Country looks fresh and pastel like.. Air Quality maybe better 50 years ago..
Excellent, you haven't got the Waverley route??
No, I regret I haven't.
This really is a gem. A wonderful piece of railway history. Thank you.
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This film is a gem and wonderfully informative for anyone interested in the Settle & Carlisle line. Thank you for posting!
Fantastic. I opened another window (onto TH-cam), and put on (low volume) Ralph Vaughan-Williams English Folk Song Suite as background music. Try it. It REALLY adds atmosphere, and fits the lovely landscapes wonderfully, and compliments the commentary...
Another gem! Many thanks Alan and Heather for another window on the railways of the 1960s. 'The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there', well it seems that way.
This looks like such a friendly railway. Love the waves from the train crews of the kettles:-))
Today 5th April 21....I was at Ribblehead via duct only yesterday.
Great footage. I have been up and down Settle / Carlisle railway many times so this was quite familiar to me although many things wouldn't be around now.
I wonder if the Station Pub / Hotel at Ribblehead was such back in 67 ? There is a nice shot of it but no advertising could be seen.
There is a brief shot of the southbound road next to the line showing a Chimney stack and buildings right next to the road....The next time I'm there I'll see if it still exists.
I was positively riveted to my seat watching this....really enjoyed it, Thanks for uploading.
Great stuff. Like my colleague, David Hardie, below I too drive the route and really enjoy it. Enjoyed seeing the now gone signal boxes and sidings and placebo exactly where they are. The lack of trees at Low House is interesting, compared to now!
David Jenkinson,a pionner in finescale layouts, built two examples of this line, the town names were changed, in both cases, first was marthwaite,, he won the 1966 railway modeller cup, then came garsdale road,inspired very close, in dent, now i have 54 yeras old, ,iam a railway modeller too, but today I have those railway modeller magazines, that purchased my father in those years, david and other enthusiasts like brian fayle,,with his beautiful layout harlyn junction, were like teachers for me in this hobbie, as I saw those articles when Iwas a child,
very good video, regards from buenos aires, argentina
Thankyou. Never tire looking at historical records of our steam railways and especially the beloved Settle and Carlisle. Philip
Brilliant. Thanks for posting. I spent many happy hours in my youth wandering the line between Settle and Blea Moor and the stations, signals and structures shown in this film brought back a lot of memories
A brilliant film of the S&C from 50 years ago. The look of the railway has not changed much since, which is very unusual. The stations have mostly been restored and look much the same, but in better condition. The track is now cwr and there are many fewer sidings. Fortunately the stone walls (instead of fencing) have survived and been repaired. There is some tree and bush growth on embankments and cuttings now (until the 60s the slopes were 'burnt off' to keep them grassed) but not as much as on most railways in 2018. This 1967 film will be part of the historical record of the S&C.
Hello Alan - I hope you have already but you do realise that these films should be lodged with the National Railway Museum? They're a wonderful record, not only of the trains and railways but the local scenery of that time - and they're in colour. They should be stored and preserved, no question about it. If you haven't already, I do hope you consider it. Thanks.
Wonderful scenic train ride, well filmed with a great narrative. Thanks for posting.
A couple of little details of Kirkby Stephen there that have changed in the meantime and I haven't found photos of from quite the right angle (I'm very, very slowly building a model of it). Great video, thanks!
And to think the S&C could so easily have gone the same way as the GCML.. we need to protect it at all costs
Well worth a second viewing!
An absolute Gem! Thank you Alan & Heather. I have walked The SCR several times over the years. Lovely to see Long Marton station when still in use. We used to live there. Good honest English village. Thanks again!
Wonderful and well-informed glimpse into a bygone era of rail. Exceptional stuff!
Fantastic piece of history. I remember in about 1960 travelling from Bolton on a BR Excursion made up of at least 6 cars. It stopped to pick up at Darwen and Blackburn before stopping for a visit to Carlisle. The return included a run down Shap and another stop at Morecambe Promenade. This film makes up for me not being behind the Driver at the front. Thank.
The Nostalgic good old days of a time sadly passed. Beautiful countryside .Its like youre really there
What totally fab video many thanks for posting it enjoyed and thank you to your wife top commentary many thanks
Really good vid, many thanks
What a treat. Thanks for the history lesson and the amazing ride!
Thanks for a priceless look at the past of one of Britain's most celebrated railways!
Many thanks for sharing very nice narration 👍
"These first generations DMUs where chosen to have vacuum brakes installed instead of the more efficient air brake system so they could haul single van or carraiges - but seldom did !" Not true . I was a Guard on the Eastern region in the 1980s and we had at least two or three turns every day that were a Class 101 first generation DMU (or a Cravens 105) with a mail van attached on the rear.The memory is fading now I `m pretty definately sure that one was an late afternoon / early evening Ipswich - Peterborough DMU which ran Mon- Sat with a mail van attached .The others I`m a bit sketchy about with the memory .Possibly a Cambride -Peterborough and a Norwich - Cambridge DMU . The practice only ceased around 1987 when the first generation DMUs were replaced by new Class 150 Sprinter trains! (on the Eastern region). I believe the Met-Cam 101s were sent to the Manchester area and the Cravens 105s for scrap?
But hey thanks for a Great Video!
Sam Green The DMU that ran from Leicester to Peterborough often dropped off an SPV at Stamford, then after being loaded/unloaded it would then be picked up by a DMU to Peterborough a day or so later. This practice stopped in the early 1980s when the yard and signalbox at Stamford were closed.
I liked this very much, nice voice as well. Thank you.
Great stuff - thank you.
Great to see a reminder of what the line looked like when I was a young teenager living in Carlisle and first became interested in the line. Thank you, Alan, for posting this.
Came here for the nostalgia and prep for a steam tour later in the year (2019). Felt very strange to see familiar sights I'd never been to, since way back now I was part of a small team producing the S&C in 1920 guise for Train Simulator, and as I did the rolling stock there was nothing to be gained by visiting the real place, so I didn't! Thanks for posting!
What a wonderful little movie! Thank you, so much!
Priceless
Loved this video very much.
Great video...love railway cab trips,and the commentary...keep them coming!
Great film thanks!
Excellent. Very well narrated. Thank you for putting this up otherwise I would never have seen 60's running on this line
Train spotting in the '60s was always fun and sitting behind the driver in a DEMU was the best!
Ribblehead Viaduct is now a tourist attraction in its own right!
Ais Gill signalbox now stands at Butterley Station in Derbyshire.
Garsdale turntable is now at Keighley.
Stunning film of a Britain long gone before I was born. Was reading about the Hawes junction disaster 1910, amazing to see the location on video. (Lund viaduct area) Thankyou
Your wife sounds like Joan Bakewell.
I want to travel back in time to 1950 and see the whole network, before Marples and Beeching got their grubby hands on it.
Really good video with really good commentary, and in colour too. Nicely presented. Thanks for taking the trouble with this - a good record - wish I had done some movie - even more stills would now have been worthwhile.
Many thanks to you both. An excellent view of the past with an interesting and helpful narration from Heather. I didn't know there was an aerial ropeway from the Gypsum works and that Long Meg sidings were so extensive. I much appreciate your productions...please keep up the superb work. Rob.
Hawes Junction!
Many thanks for uploading this film. My Dad used to walk the 4 miles from Dent Station to the village just before the war to visit relatives during his school holidays. We retraced his steps about 20 years ago on a visit to England. Very pretty countryside and we'll do it again one day, being natives of Yorkshire.
I came to Australia by myself in 1970 age 19, still living here and no intention of leaving. Mother and Father ended up living in Cornwall. The whole family tree originated in Yorkshire, they lived in Skipton/Grassington/Hebden/Dent. Family name Dinsdale.
Beautiful!
For someone from New Zealand building a model of the S&C in 1964 this is a gem. Many thanks
Thanks very much for sharing those films. I grew up at Settle and it has brought back many happy memories including a DMU trip that I took just before the local service was withdrawn and where I had an unofficial cab ride most of the way. Thanks again.
My cab ride was "unofficial" too - all the way from Skipton to Carlisle!
What a remarkable film. Thank you very much for sharing this rare front view.
The Lady prounces KirkbyStephen wrong !! It`r KirK-bee not Ker-bee!!
The name is pronounced Kerby, Wikipedia will set you right.
@@brucewilliams8714 says nothing of the sort don't lie !!! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirkby_Stephen#Town_geography_and_history
@@brucewilliams8714 exposed as a Liar!!
Thanks
Excellent piece of history...thanks.
Absolute Magic... Thank you my friend...
Excellent stuff. As a DRS driver I take trains down that route quite often. It's interesting to see the changes!
Yes it's still mechanical boxes. I'm on that job Monday too!
My great grandfather was a foreman on the building of this railway . At that time he lived with his wife and children then settled near Kirkby Steven then Appleby. His name was James Ladds.
I drove the S&C for 15 years 2003-2018 when I was at freightliner heavy haul, I miss it very much. The Cornish mainline has to do for now.
The turntable at Garsdale used to have a stockade around it to prevent locos not being able to turn due to strong winds in the area. The stockade was built after a gust of wind caught a loco and spun it around like a top (as immortalised by the good Reverend Audrey in one of his tales).
Yes, I have read of the wind-blown turntable at Garsdale, and of how they had to shovel ashes into the turntable pit to stop it. One of the problems of using old film material is that the shots are often too short to allow one to say everything (or even anything!) that one would like to say about what is shown on the film.
good job, tnx
Another wonderful film. Thank you.
Superb video. What great archive footage.
Wonderful stuff. I also learnt that gypsum can be made from coal smoke. Seeing all the wagons and it never clicked !
All this rubbish about coal being a pollutant, it was almost completely free of pollutants by the time all the processes on it were finished.
Thankyou very much, enjoyed!
Thank you so much for posting this - it is a real journey into the past for me. My uncle was a track worker in this area and the family lived in the Railway Cottages next to the line in Long Marton near the viaduct. It's from here I have my memories of working steam on British railways, and I remember using Long Marton station. I think Network Rail turned up at 5 o'clock one Sunday morning in the 1990's to remove the platforms, making damn' sure it couldn't open again.
A fantastic peace of S & C history , thanks Alan for putting this film together.
reminds me of the route of microsoft train simulator game! :D
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Was pals with one of the signalmen at How and Co's siding. Once spent the morning with him in the box when there were about only three trains a day the early 80s
Some wonderful views of the line as it was, including in & around Skipton at the start. The Colne line closed when I was little, so I have no memories of it like it is shown. Likewise for many of the old signal boxes & stations now gone....
Just a small edit removed me seeing my house as you went by! Thankyou for this wonderful film.
Great video thanks!
An enjoyable video, thanks.
However, it may be that your wife's voice is not only better, Alan, but that actually she might just be better overall at narrating this sort of video than you.
Your statement appears to avoid that possibilty, like you only let her do it because she has a better voice! How kind of you!
Just 'Narrated By:......' would have done.
Regards.
Lovely to see this. My grandad was the signalman at Low House in the 1940s and 50s. Memories of holidays there as a young child. I remember that you could smell a steam train coming before you could see it, which still makes no sense to me but that's how it worked!
Absolutely superb.
These short films are beautiful!
I had the opportunity to travel with a vintage train on this wonderful route, a few years ago, and I am glad I found your video, so interesting to see the steam still in action at that point. And all these stations on the way, and the great Ribblehead...
Wonderful, well researched and presented, railway history, as always.
Great, please put the gems on DVD, THEN we can purchase.
TEN TO THE VIDEO!!!
Vintage stuff, love it. Subscribed.
Thanks Norbert, my viewers will enjoy your diesel channel th-cam.com/channels/-2d9KAtpPGwyYubDuZ4xjQ.html ... good to cross-promote
The position of the perforation suggest that this was shot on Super-8 film, a format which would have been introduced just two years before.
No I always used Standard 8mm - until I started Video, which I have yet to start upleading to TH-cam.
Wonderful
6:18 *You have got to be Kidding !* 🤣
I had a pram just like that! 2:40 What an amazing film.
Not even Wensleydale?
Thank you for showing this film. My mother's family are Threlkeld. The Threlkeld in USA, Arkansas and Kentucky.
I still remember the same DMU "cab ride" run from Skipton to Carlisle just before the mass closure of the village stations....what wonderful memories here, the stations, signal boxes, signals themselves. The modern railway is just not the same. Many thanks for this.
Splendid filming!
Once again Alan Snowdon has smashed it out of the park with his amazing footage. Thank you Alan, and also Mrs Snowdon!
Fantastico!
Magical!
nice one
At 1 min into the video, aqueduct carring the Leeds Liverpool Canal, the appears to an automatic semaphore signal. The signal plate is a white rectangle with a black horizontal line. Anybody got a clue about this?
Not true ! I was a guard on the Eastern Region in 1980s and we had a few regular turns with a DMU with a van attached on the rear .Usually a CCT van for mailbags . Most common on Ipswich to Peterborough .Norwich or Cambridge to Peterborough.
We did say "SELDOM", not "Never." I really don't recall seeing a First Generation, Vacuum Braked DMU hauling anything. But then I wasn't riding around your area at all the hours of the day you would have been.
Sam Green So was I Sam. I was a conductor guard at Peterborough and we conveyed “ vanfits “ to Spalding,Stamford Cambridge and Norwich. Sometimes if we had two units we ended up with two vans
Is there a railway bridge over the line at th-cam.com/video/5d-LR3EJxf0/w-d-xo.html ??
Your link doesn't specify a time on the video... what part of the line are you referring to?
@@johnriggs4929 John, at 10:23 to 10:30.
@@cliffyoung4612 I replied yesterday, but my reply seems to have disappeared. The only overbridge at that location is the one you can see in the distance, i.e. the tall, sloping 3 arch bridge ahead, which appears to carry a farm track on opposite sides of the line. I've looked on old maps and apart from the station having disappeared, not much has changed, so there were no other overbridges here in the past.
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You were actually in the cab then? Unusual!