the Bass VI - the Ultimate Modern Metal Guitar?

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  • @D14V0R05
    @D14V0R05 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    The Hellraiser C-VI looks like pretty neat modern Bass-VI.

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah very cool modern looking Bass VI

    • @grenade.turtle
      @grenade.turtle 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I really want that hellraiser

  • @zadtheinhaler
    @zadtheinhaler 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I've got the multiscale version of the SRC6 that I picked up last year, and it's easily my favourite axe right now. It is so versatile!

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nice. I really want to try the multiscale version.

  • @ikestoddard2458
    @ikestoddard2458 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    That Schecter Hellraiser C-VI beckons me. 🤯 priced around $1200.

  • @OTTOAUDIO
    @OTTOAUDIO 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    T I I E M tones from II II II II + these guitars = PURE ⚡🔥

  • @sahamal_savu
    @sahamal_savu ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I bought the SubZero Rogue first and fell in love with the feel of a Bass VI. I live in Canada so it was shipped from the UK and it had a bit of fret sprout and I had to level a couple frets but now it plays fantastic. I bought the Gretsch baritone after that and it's really a great instrument. Fret work is flawless and plays in drop F without any issues.

    • @xMoDzProductions
      @xMoDzProductions 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I got one today. If standard e (octave below actual standard e) is the “default” tuning, tuning up to f is waaaaay to tense it feels like it’s going to snap. How do you achieve drop f then?

  • @grindingmass
    @grindingmass หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Some good point here. But. One thing I want to mention as a bassist that uses a bass vi the o the way round in metal to add guitar elements to a duo type band is the Eastwood hooky bass vi, this has a string spacing in between a guitar and a bass so you can play it more like a guitar or a bass

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah have seen the Hooky bass and noticed the slightly wider str9ng spacing. Very interesting looking Bass VI.

  • @ivangorban5456
    @ivangorban5456 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Amazing video quality, superb editing and excellent overview, Gary! Your channel definitely deserves a hundred times more viewers.
    BTW, very stylish and sexy Ibanez baritone, it looks very comfortable to play

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad you enjoyed the video. Yeah that Ibanez is very nice!

  • @MattDTN
    @MattDTN ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Absolutely love my Squier BassVI. And I’ve had the Jazzmaster baritone, if you missed out on getting a Jazzmaster baritone the Squier BassVI feels just like the JM but with different pickups. The bridges are different too but that’s about it.
    And I am looking forward to getting the new version of the SRC6 someday.

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah those new SRC6MS look very cool

  • @MattDTN
    @MattDTN ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @garyhiebner riffs are fire. Keep Krushing bro!

  • @Jay-86
    @Jay-86 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    WOW man gorgeous SRC6... 😍 AMAZING VIDEO!!

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks man. Who ever has it now is very lucky ;)

    • @Jay-86
      @Jay-86 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GaryHiebner Hahaha Jip one lucky bugger...

  • @Jettblack_
    @Jettblack_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never knew this even existed,I have to get one now thank you

  • @anpunefru
    @anpunefru 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Just got an Olp mm5 baritone. Love that thing. It is my second 30" 🤘🏻

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow, those OLPs are awesome. I am jealous

    • @anpunefru
      @anpunefru 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @GaryHiebner oh yes I love it as these are build more bass like making the 30" very comfortable to play. Feels shorter.

  • @Strizz484
    @Strizz484 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fun fact, all of the "guitar" on Coloring Book EP by Glassjaw was played by Beck on a Bass VI 🔥

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes! Glassjaw are one of my favorite bands. Beck is a genius!

  • @loki3292
    @loki3292 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a Schecter Hellcat VI- I've used it in the studio for heavy music, but it feeds back a lot live with distortion.

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Use a gate for for live use. My Jazzmaster is also so noisy. Bit a gate helps.

  • @Justin_Shadow999
    @Justin_Shadow999 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn dude. Those riffs!!!! Sick tones man.

  • @reubensinnema
    @reubensinnema 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! Just ordered one and was hoping it could chug. Thanks for proving it can!!! I’m going to use it in my punk rock duo with a drummer!

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They can DEFINITELY Chug!

    • @reubensinnema
      @reubensinnema 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GaryHiebner Since it can chug, I'm certain it can punk! Thanks again!

  • @JoeDread316
    @JoeDread316 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Schecter also makes the Hellcat VI and Robert Smith's signature bass VI

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah. Those look great!

  • @22neohenry
    @22neohenry 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love my SRC6, bottom 4 strings are drop G(ish), 5th string is a 5th above the fourth string, 6th string is a 7th above the 5th string. When I saw they made a multiscale I felt like they made it just for me. Now I just have to get one.

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That 's an interesting tuning. Yeah that SRC6MS looks awesome.

    • @22neohenry
      @22neohenry 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GaryHiebner pretty sure I explained it upside down. Whoever said the "1st" string should be the highest one did not play bass.

  • @Teacherinasubie
    @Teacherinasubie หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Fender Bass VI pretty much made the best album ever - Disintegration by The Cure. It is all over that album.

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes! Robert Smith, thr Bass VI Master!

  • @musicinsession
    @musicinsession 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    well... the way things are going this will soon completely replace guitars as far as metal goes! lol Great video dude!

  • @GearStuffandThings
    @GearStuffandThings ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fun video

  • @entyzst
    @entyzst 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish someone picked up on obscure Ibanez SR7 bass VII which is obviously 7 string version of bass vi in B standard.

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That SRCVII is SOOO Rare. Would love to get my hands on one.

  • @BrunoHenrique-jr1uj
    @BrunoHenrique-jr1uj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which sounds more low?
    More bass?
    Bass VI or Baritone?
    Great video mate!
    Thanks!
    🙂 👍🏻

  • @mbberry135
    @mbberry135 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That shoot out riff sounded very much like Soundgarden to me.

  • @gnarlantlers70
    @gnarlantlers70 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The src6 fits in a regular guitar case as well. You'll need a bass case for other bass vi guitars.

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah good point. Fits perfectly fine in a standard guitar case

  • @trialbyicecream
    @trialbyicecream ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got an iyv off eBay. Absolutely love it, and the price i was unbeatable!

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  ปีที่แล้ว

      What scale length?

    • @trialbyicecream
      @trialbyicecream ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GaryHiebner 30”. They had one where they took the neck off to reduce shipping costs from Vietnam. It was super easy to reattach and get playing.

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  ปีที่แล้ว

      Was it just a neck? Or a neck and a body? If its a neck and body then yeah its alot of sense to remove the neck to reduce shipping costs.

    • @trialbyicecream
      @trialbyicecream ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GaryHiebner the whole guitar. They had it assembled and just took it apart for shipping.

  • @chuckybastard
    @chuckybastard 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just got a Bass VI for playing all that old school Beatles and early goth stuff… but this is awesome, I might venture into sludge territory as well

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Bass VI is an awesome sludge machine! Enjoy

  • @adamrutowski3599
    @adamrutowski3599 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I subscribed to your channel I hit the notification bell 🔔 I smashed a like 👍 on this video 📹.

  • @alvaroescandela4495
    @alvaroescandela4495 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    2:01 THALL

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Haha THALL!

  • @user-er9yl6vg8p
    @user-er9yl6vg8p 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Digging the Videos Gary! The incubus cover Rocked.... were could We find some Jimmy 12 "

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Earl. Got some Jimmy 12 Inch stuff locked away in a Dropbox folder. Message me and can share the link.

  • @michaelpartridge2049
    @michaelpartridge2049 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    B0! You are going to need a 42" scale bass to get down to B-1!

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha! I played the bass in unison in B0.

    • @michaelpartridge2049
      @michaelpartridge2049 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GaryHiebner Smart move! I remember you posting about that a while back

  • @insertanynameyouwant5311
    @insertanynameyouwant5311 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I want to see Black metal tremolo picking with all 6 strings involved lol

  • @TruthDose
    @TruthDose 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've got a Gretsch baritone and have been looking for new pickups. I had a SD Nazgul/Sentient set installed, but have had a lot of trouble getting rid of the muddiness. I'm tuning E1 standard, so I'm thinking it may be too much output? What would you prioritize if you were shopping for new ones? Something brighter with lower output?

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Definitely brighter and low output for lower tunings.

    • @TruthDose
      @TruthDose 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GaryHiebnerThank you for the response! It really helps. Cheers!

  • @darkrednecks
    @darkrednecks ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm thinking about getting one of these from Harley Benton for a droney/doom project I'm working on. Do you have any suggestions for pickups or should I just rock the single coils?
    EDIT: Nevermind. Didn't realize the JM from Harley Benton was a 30 in scale. Gonna cop it.

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Try out the stock single coils and see how they work. If you prefer a humbucker you could always get a mini-humbucker to chuck in there.

  • @jp-tokyo6793
    @jp-tokyo6793 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How to tone ? Is the same guitar tone?
    1E-2B-3G-4D-5A-6E 🤔💭???

  • @Turbo_Toad
    @Turbo_Toad 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey I got the same jazzmaster as you. Probably my favorite guitar. Did you end up replacing the nut? I notice I can't really go higher then like a 95 gauge without the lowest string sorta resting on top of the nut causing the string to mute and rattle alot.

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I replaced with a TUSQ nut and used a file to make the slot bigger so it could accommodate a 95

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can even just use the thick strings to file the nut wider. Just move it back and forward between the nut til it fits snug in the slot

  • @pjmtry7
    @pjmtry7 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great info, thanks!

  • @Defekcija
    @Defekcija ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have that Gretsch baritone with the mini humbuckers. They are low output and the lows sounds muddy. How can I make those low chugs clear and punchy like you did? Any advice is appreciated. I'm using the Gojira plugin. I see you have the bass and the kick playing at the same time to make it heavier, but man that sounded great.

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Try dropping the gain a bit on Gojira. And maybe even try adding a boost before the amp sim. See if that helps. If not then maybe add an EQ and bring down soe of the low mids.

    • @sahamal_savu
      @sahamal_savu ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I find that below a certain tuning some amp sims don't perform as they should. Gojira doesn't use low tunings in their music if you think about it, try the Fortin Nameless and you'll see what I mean. Beyond choosing the right amp and string gauge you'll have to EQ out the muddiness.

    • @maximetabuteau3682
      @maximetabuteau3682 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Other comments are right, but I'd recommend you (if you or a luthier can do it) on the Gretsch, that I own too, to set slightly higher the pickups so that they get closer to the strings. It will capture the sound more precisely

    • @sahamal_savu
      @sahamal_savu ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@maximetabuteau3682 If you raise the pickups yourself, which is easy enough to do, just be careful not to set them too close to the strings. I did raise the pickups on my Gretsch when I first changed the strings and did a minor setup. Also wanted to add that trying some different IR's or mic placement within the ampsim might help as well.

    • @Defekcija
      @Defekcija ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sahamal_savu how does one EQ out the muddiness? I slightly lower the first and the last button, or whatever you call those. Any tips? Cheers

  • @scottrowan200
    @scottrowan200 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What tuning and strings are you using, anytime I Try to use my squire bass vi like this it just sounds like a bass guitar to me

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm mainly using a 20-90 set.

    • @scottrowan200
      @scottrowan200 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @GaryHiebner I'm trying figure this out. Since the bass vi is 1 Oct below standard guitar if you wanted to make it tuned like a 7 string ( without the 2 high strings ) would you tune up rather than down?

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You would tune it up to B. So a Bass VI is in E1 Std. And you will tune up to B1 Std and use lighter gauges. Maybe like a 11-58 set for B Std

    • @scottrowan200
      @scottrowan200 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GaryHiebner thanks I will look into this!

  • @Evolji228
    @Evolji228 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a happy owner of Ibanez SRC6MS I could tell you that it's a great thing, but it's almost impossible to play with palm mute

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ah damn. Because of the slanted bridge?

    • @Evolji228
      @Evolji228 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GaryHiebner Yeah, I just suck in that technique in general and angled bridge not making it any easier for me

  • @brianfrolo245
    @brianfrolo245 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Deftones tones ❤

  • @Cpmnk
    @Cpmnk ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The src6 has been reissued
    Edit: nvm you covered it 😅

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha! Thanks for watching through till later where I mention the new version.

  • @marcelmeijers
    @marcelmeijers 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    .... he s not saying that...he plays guitar parts....and with that distortion you ll not hear the scale length difference

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The video is titled 'Ultimate Modern Metal Guitar' of course there is gonna be distortion!

  • @randym7961
    @randym7961 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Isn't a Bass VI a Fender or Squier ,, the others are 6 string bass's . Some BA sounds there !!

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A Bass VI is a guitar tuned an octave lower E-e and has a longer scale length. They have the same string spacing as a guitar. A 6 string bass is tuned different. Its tuned B-c. And scale lengths from 34 to 35 inches.

  • @numbersabcdefg
    @numbersabcdefg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which ones handles chords clarity better?

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Depends on how much gain you're using. More gain you will loose a bit of chord clarity going lower. But I do find with high gain, and single coils for low tunings, really work well

  • @Aethertigris
    @Aethertigris 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Didn't Danelectro start it all off, actually?

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes they did. Correct

  • @selfactualizer2099
    @selfactualizer2099 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you basically bought, a 4 string shortscale, but with 6 strings (i know becase my shortscale bass fits in my fender strat case)
    at this point im gonna have to say it, just get a bass. Im in college studying bass, and i still get sht on by guitarists who havent heard me play, just for being a bassist. these guys only listen to rock and metal, and admitting they want to play bass is just too difficult for them.
    its cool if you need it for the tone, problem is metal and heavy doesnt equate to "lower pitch is heavier", youre stepping on your bassists toes, entering his atmosphere, and further limiting him to the first 3 frets.
    it makes your music sound smaller and duller when everything is a chase for "lower sound",
    lastly the majority of metal, rock, and all the other forms of pop .. the different musicians all come together to create *open chords) that is, the guitar plays higher octave notes, the bassist plays lower octave notes, and this makes the mix and atmosphere sound much more *epic*
    now go on, play your first four frets and keep reading tab lmao

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the comment. But totally disagree with you. Many modern metal bands have found Bass VIs and are tuning them lower then E1. And are using guitar amp processing on them. Because of this type of processing its enhancing the upper harmonics of the sound it's not stepping on the bassists tones. As it is still a midrange instrument. The bassist can play in unison with the guitarist and use bass am processing which focuses more on the low to low midrange. So its about the tonal processing of the instrument that makes it a guitar or bass. But obviously this is blurring the lines. Hopefully through your studies you'll learn this :)
      Check out some bands like Humanitys Last Breathe, Loathe, Sleep Token and Thornhill and you'll hear how the two don't compete and you can still have a full sounding mix. Have fun exploring low tuned extended scale and Bass VI bands :)

    • @Jay-86
      @Jay-86 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You know even John lennon, John Frusciante, Robert Smith, Eric Clapton, David Gilmour (the list goes on) used a Bass vi....
      Legendary musicians will always bend the rules and push boundaries..
      Honestly I like the fact that it's not meant for everyone... be unique and don't follow a herd...
      Maybe just give it a shot once you might like it, and/or guitar

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly. The Bass VI has been a staple of many popular musicians for decades. Its not JUST a bass! Haha

    • @Jay-86
      @Jay-86 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GaryHiebner They truly are amazing... that's why big brands like Fender and Ibanez invest in making these amazing instruments for us..

  • @mana20
    @mana20 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do you have a favorite?

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Squier Jazzmaster Baritone is my favorite. Got such character

    • @mana20
      @mana20 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GaryHiebner I wish they'd do a re-release :)

  • @bepitan
    @bepitan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    musicman do a bass vi

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Those Musicman Bass VIs are awesome. Would love to get my hands on one of those.

  • @zacharywilliams3631
    @zacharywilliams3631 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So you’re just playing bass okay cool do it on a four string squire or fender jazz or p bass like normal people

  • @8Junio76
    @8Junio76 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It sounds like a down tuned guitar, not a bass.

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A Bass VI is a downtuned guitar. Its a guitar tuned an octave lower.

  • @zacharywilliams3631
    @zacharywilliams3631 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I DONT WANT TO SOUND LIKE A BASS I DONT WANT TO TUNE TO B ZERO. No why are you tuning to drop b bass on your guitar? Gfys. Get an octave pedal

  • @michaelblaney4461
    @michaelblaney4461 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Those bass VI will never OUTBASS a 34or 35" Bass dont fool yourself😮

    • @GaryHiebner
      @GaryHiebner  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True. But they're their own beast. I mainly use them as a low tuned baritone. And then use a super long scale 37 inch bass with them.

    • @andrepalomaro353
      @andrepalomaro353 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Actually, a bass vi is not trying to be a bass, its a down tuned guitar. Meant to compliment regular guitar and bass by providing the full harmonic range.
      if you want to be technical, bass guitars are actually CONTRABASS instruments, and the BASS VI is ACTUALLY a bass instrument, with regular guitars being BARITONE.

  • @zacharywilliams3631
    @zacharywilliams3631 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yeah I can put those strings on my Les Paul and play in the same tuning I hate these guitars they’re ugly sound god awful and are even longer than a standard scale giving you no playability even standard scale is too long hence why the Les Paul was invented it’s the new standard