I've never seen an amusement park pass that didn't say "not all rides and attractions may be available" somewhere in the fine print. I see this getting thrown out of court rather quickly...
I lived in Pittsburgh for 7 years and frequented this park several times a year in the '90s and early 2000s it was okay. It was very historic and nostalgic. I enjoyed the old wooden coasters and the racers. But I don't put it on the same scale as large parks. It's a quaint historic amusement park. But it's far from great at the time I was there it was the steel phantom I wasn't very impressed. And that was their flagship coaster. I would say it's more for young kids than amusement park enthusiasts. They just don't have the scale of rides that most amusement parks do. Most of their coasters would be considered the coaster you hit last at any other park. Other than the thunderbolt really nothing impressive there. I actually enjoyed the indoor coaster the most of everything there.@@PhillipJames-pw1sz
Not to be argumentative but technically you are incorrect. The basis of the lawsuit is that indefinite closures are the point of discrepancy. It has nothing to do with the fine print of the pass, it has everything to do with the timing of the announcement. This is a suspected "bait and switch" scenario. The lawsuit will uncover the paper trail and will likely be a judgment based upon the lapse between determination of resolve and announcement to the public. In layman's terms, if there's a paper trail showing the park knew months ago, they could be liable for the cost of passes to anyone that fall under that window of a bait-and-switch scam. The only reason I am confident in this is because I have seen this exact situation play out about 10 years ago or so with a local "waterpark" that is more akin to a public pool, so take that for what it's worth.
@@TrueLies23 The big difference I see though is that Kennywood has like a hundred attractions without Steel Curtain. How many people bought a season pass solely because of that coaster?
If there is proof that they deliberately waited until after season passes renewed to make the announcement when they likely already knew, then there should definitely be some legal consequence for that. It's manipulative and scummy.
@@KyleJPie10 i disagree. i think rides being open or closed for safety is a valid reason, and prior knowledge does not negate the validity of a season ticket. it's about safety, not about duping customers. they could have known since the park itself opened, it doesn't matter legally. if it was the only ride in the park then yes. the seasonal ticket grants u entry into the park for the season...if a ride is closed, or going to be closed for maintenance there can't be any legal recourse...
@@sonquatsch8585 How many people would have bought passes if they had known Steel Curtain would be closed the entire year? What the park did is manipulative and scummy and there's no question the passholders will win the lawsuit here. Not even a question of that.
@@sonquatsch8585fuck outta here with that garbage, we know they knew and waited for people to buy season passes. Less people are willing to buy season passes when your newest ride is out of order and the 2nd newest one is over a decade old, Kennywood waited to tell people for sure. I'm dead tired of this park, it needs to evolve or die.
@@dreamsthatgotogether7553to compensate what? Why should they pay you? cause 1 roller coaster is down? Give them 20 dollars off the next pass. Americans and their absurd lawsuits.
What about the time you wasted buying the ticket The interest accrued in your credit card Electricity used to run your computer or phone while purchasing the tickets Cost of food to cover the calories used while operating theme park website to type in username credit card # etc. Upon visiting the park, the time, food/calories and risk of injury that is wasted walking past/around the non-functional ride in order to reach a functional one.
Come on people. It’s only 109. 00 for a season pass. And compensation can award 900 per pass holder? So in essence, the season pass holders can financially damage or bankrupt the park and a huge loss to Pittsburgh if it would close down and disappear. Let Geauga Lake be the example
So growing up here living here let it go bankrupt It causes nothing but problems for the neighborhood never used to till it went corporate!! Now they push the shootings and fights out to us yes us that live around the park. And we deal with it so you won't find much agreeing in west Mifflin! They do nothing for us .
Well, maybe Kennywood should have thought about that before selling season passes at full price. They should have been proactive and offered the holders a discount... But as it is, Kennywood is not worth $75.00 for a single day visit... the park is 96 acres total, parks 2-3x that size charge the same price and you get more attractions. word is they knew Steel Curtain would not open this year back int he fall of 2023... but they led people on like it would be, and only dropped the bombshell after season pass sales surpassed previous season records... so in essence it was a rug pull. Kennywood chose to build that ride and spent way less than it would have cost for a reliable B&M that could have been configured the same way... this is what happens when you go cheap the builder is known for problematic rollercoasters. When they owned lake compounce in Bristol, CT they spent money to build Boulder Dash but never spent money to maintain it, instead selling the park and letting the next sucker inherit the problems of roughness. Kennywood has had poor management for over a decade and unless they replace people it will continue to go downhill.
Oh please. 🙄 What a total waste of any court’s time. If you’re buying a season pass to Kennywood just for one ride, you’ve got problems. I was there for the first time in mid-2021, and Steel Curtain was down. I was disappointed, but it’s just a ride. Also, I live in Orlando and have an annual pass to the Disney parks, and it costs nearly 7 times what Kennywood’s does. And that’s for a discounted Florida resident pass too. So don’t complain to me about an entire season pass for around $100. That’s a total bargain, and you have tons of other incredible rides at the park for that. I think people have been mindlessly buying into legal billboards along the freeway in PA.
It really is a waist of time. I agree $100 is reasonable for a season pass. You go to the park 2 times throughout the season and that pretty much covers the pass price. I don't have a season pass because I can only go to Kennywood once a year, if I lived closer I'd definitely have a season pass.
This is a fine example of why everything cost so much. Kennywood will probably lose out on this lawsuit, but they will just jack up the future season pass rates so no one really wins. In America when you don’t get your own way, you just try to sue people. I find it hard to believe that people bought a season pass for one ride.
It's like the Yesterday lawsuit. 2 morons sued because they spent $2.99 to rent it because they thought an actress was in it because she was in the trailer, but her part got cut from the movie.
And unfortunately, if they loose, Palace Entertainment is already on shaky financial ground. And they bought my neighboring Amusement park in Iowa, Adventureland, a couple of years ago. All these parks will be in danger of closing because there's no operator who is in the shape to buy them all post-COVID just yet.
I'm a season pass holder and have been going to Kennywood for over 50 years. This is a BS lawsuit. Even without this attraction, the Kennywood season passes are a very great value. I buy season passes from many of the parks in the country and Kennywood has the best deal on season passes. This is nothing more than a money grab from greedy people.
Also, there's other Flagship coasters and rides in the park that shouldn't lead to them suing. I mean, you got Phantom's Revenge, Thunderbolt, Racer and Jackrabbit then you have Turtle, Kangaroo, Spinvasion and Aero 360. I went last year knowing Steel Curtain wouldn't be open, I was disappointed, but still had an amazing time at the park.
@@sportsygirl8Literally!! I bought a season pass and I don't care if the Steel Curtain is closed or not. I'm going to Kennywood, it's awesome. Some people are just way too eager for some money.
@@floaque You're right about that. Am I disappointed that Steel Curtain is closed again this year? Yes, but it's not stopping me from going to Kennywood this year or ever, I have a good time at the park anyway. I had a good time going without it and I was at the time scared of Phantom's Revenge. I still enjoyed riding the rest of the roller coasters and the classic historic rides. Now, I am no long scared of Phantom's Revenge, so now i look forward to riding it every year.
If the Steel Curtin closure was announced, would you still have bought the pass? Why go to court if you don’t want the pass because it is closed, just get the pass refunded. No need for court to handle.
As a plaintiff if you get paid, you should forfeit your season pass for the year. Since you clearly made your buying decision on one ride then you probably don’t wanna come to the park in 2024. These Jokers can’t have their cake and eat it too
I'm sorry but this is so stupid. Just because a ride isn't open, doesn't mean that u need to cry over it and start a lawsuit. This is completely normal for amusement parks. Just look at six flags, or Alton Towers when they closed nemesis.
Something tells me Parques Reunidos (owner of Palace Entertainment, who themselves own Kennywood) can handle the cost, seeing as they run 17 amusement parks internationally, not including the zoos and water parks. This isn't some small family owned business like Knoebels, a lawsuit over season passes isn't the end of the world for a corporation like Parques Reunidos, they would never shut down the park for something like this, lol
The people suing will actually regret this, if they win it will push up prices around the park and next year, entrance tickets and season passes prices will increase as well to compensate for the losses which will sadly effect everyone all for the pathetic reason that ONE ride is down all season Surely this will be thrown out of court anyway, they always state rides and attractions can be unavailable at anytime so surely this will be covered in their terms and conditions of the pass,also it’s ONE bloody ride, YES I would be massively disappointed but I wouldn’t be pathetic to try and sue, there is still lots of other great rides to enjoy at the park
Ridiculous. Go sue Cedar Point for not having Top Thrill Dragster open, or Disney World for closing Splash Mountain , closing Test Track soon etc , etc. get your money back and move on.
I understand it's not fair if they knew that this season it's gonna be shut down but on the other hand giving people way more than they paid for their passes is not the answer either $900 is ridiculous when you only paid the $106 for the lowest tier pass up to the 239 platinum pass they should just get their passes refunded and get a free season pass because giving them more money than they paid cause financial strain on the park and wind up closing the park and no one will ever write it ever again!
No, this is stupid. There's plenty of attractions, and $100 for a season pass is a very fair price. Rides often are closed for maintenance and repairs, and the pass isn't for just one ride. It states on the website, the ride is closed. The question then would seem when that was posted online as the benchmark of when they decided what to do with the ride, either open as is, close for minor repairs, or close for a long term reimagining. Disney doesn't give refunds if space mountain is closed. Get real. This is such an instant gratification, sue happy world these days! Go enjoy the dang park, and I'm sure you'll get your money's worth! Jimminy Christmas!
What a croc! These people need to suck it up. There are 6 other iconic coasters. I pay 400 for a sea world platinum and I don't throw a fit if ice breaker or cheetah hunt is closed. Get real people!
So you wouldn't be mad if you paid the 400 only to find out when you go that ice breaker and cheetah hunt will be closed FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON? I wouldn't mind knowing that ahead of time before wasting my money.
@@HumanStateOfEmergency every park in the world has maintenance on one of their ride. It's called maintenance rotation. It insures that a ride will always be open instead of closing down the entire park. It is to be expected that one ride in a theme park will always be closed.
This would never happen in the uk. We would just pay the annual pass price and when we found out a signature coaster would be closed afterwards everyone would just go “ok”. 😂
Yall mad over one roller coaster. Me and my family drove 6 hours to Kennywood in 2020 after checking their website and saying everything was open (I’m from NY State and at the time Pennsylvania had the Lowest Covid rates and restrictions) and when we got there almost half of the rides were closed, every time people got off the ride the sprayed it down then ran it again with no one on it to dry it off so that made lines almost wrapped around the whole ride. The black widow was closed, and people had to sit in every other seat on rides which meant that the ride couldn’t operate at full capacity and that made lines even longer. I was a kid at the time so I mean I still found fun in the experience but looking back I didn’t even get to experience about 25% of the park😂
That should be a quick case. When you buy a season pass you get the whole dang park! There's dozens more rides in the park than just Steel Curtain! That pass also has food and merch perks too, so when you buy that pass you're getting your money's worth even if 1 coaster is down the whole season yet again. I love Steel Curtain, yes, I am disappointed it will be closed again, but will that stop me from visiting Kennywood this year? Nope, with it being closed I'll go ride Phantom 2 times as make up. This case should be dismissed.
keep in mind, Steel Curtain is down a lot anyways, because of that the reason you go to Kennywood, is not for Steel Curtain, this will make it a reason. It would be one thing for Lagoon to say Cannibal is down for the season after selling them, that would feel very manipulative because Cannibal is THE reason you go to Lagoon, it's what put it on the map. But for Kennywood, that's Phantom's Revenge, not Steel Curtain because Steel Curtain is down so much.
meanwhile, i bought a season pass for disneyland where like 5 rides are consistantly down, not to mention the park closes early for the entire month of may for stupid star wars nights
Phantom's Revenge is better anyway. If I was in charge, I would've let people opt to get a full refund for their season pass if they hadn't used it at all because it's good for PR, like how Merlin (Legoland, Alton Towers, Thorpe Park, etc.) refunds people's tickets when their rides are closed for too long, but they have no obligation.
Because its one of the most popular rides in the park and holds 2 world records (most inversions on any coaster in north america and the tallest inversion on any coaster)
It’s an awesome ride. They just need to get the bugs out of it. Likely new electronics and new trains. The electronics that run the ride never worked right and they very often could not run more than one train on it. Glad I got to ride it when I had the opportunity.
$900. That’s ridiculous. I understand some sort of compensation like a some being a friend free tickets or a single time saver pass for free anytime during the season.. but $900 is asinine
What an absolutely absurd lawsuit!!! $900 compensation on a $109 season pass for losing out on ONE RIDE. Now everyone else who visits the park who isnt apart of the lawsuit will be the ones paying more if the lawsuit goes through. What an absolute joke, and I hope a reasonable judge tosses it.
In this day and age and they can’t build a damn roller coaster, it’s such a shame because that ride was really going to help Kennywood out, I’d never hire that company to build a ride or roller coaster ever again they must really suck
I mean customers are paying $109 for a season pass to enter the park and enjoy everything available, not just ONE ride. This is why Canada calls the U.S. "sue happy". Ridiculous. I could see if this were the ONLY ride in the park. Surely it's not the only attraction or activity to enjoy at Kennywood.
Suing my local park because their Vekoma SLC which has given thousands of people CTE since it started operating wasn't open this past season when I visited.
If you bought season passes expecting to ride the roller coasters, it's huge. They did not let people know ahead of time that the Steel Curtain would be closed before they purchased their passes
It may just be one ride, but when there aren't many comparable rides, losing that one ride is huge. Class action suit aside, they are going to take a massive hit from daily ticket buyers
Why sell season passes if people anticipated its opening yet the park likely knew ahead of time that it wasn't going to open this year? It's a fishy business practice and people have the right to know before buying.
This lawsuit has merit. They used pictures of this ride to sell passes all the way until days before opening day when they announced it. They knew and planned its fate likely last season when it didn’t stay open.
@@buster5661 in the middle of litigation. If Kennywood decided to raise prices. You’d know how they care for their patrons. And therefore not want to ever give them money. It’s not about what could happen. It’s about what they DID do. Right vs Wrong. Not Right vs What they might do. Understand the law and manipulation of season pass buyers, and company optics.
I agree with you. It's a shame all the blind love for kennywood when a greedy company runs it now. These people all just want to accept mediocrity and all the junk rides and overpriced everything kennywood does.
Kennywood isn't in the business of keeping fun reliable rides. They're in the business of buying junk rides that don't run, and to milk as much money of their patrons as possible.
I waited almost an hour to ride the thunderbolt this place is home lots of heritage and a great time, the only problem I had was then the ski lifts stopped for almost two hours while on it
Y’all are mad over $109? Get a job that ain’t even that expensive. I could have sued Six Flags LONG ago regarding closed/temperamental attractions if that’s the case.
Stupid lawyer doing stupid lawyer stuff. No one buys a season pass for one attraction. One buys a ticket and experiences whatever is working that day. He might have a case if they shut everything down.
I get both sides but i leaj more towards agreeing with the people that bought season passes. I dont have a problem with the ride being closed for the entire season but as a rollercoaster enthusiast if Steel Curtain is my favorite ride there and i buy a season pass specifically for that ride only to find out itll be closed all season id be upset too. Is it worth a lawsuit? No. But communication is important and you cant just throw money away nowadays so yes i do agree that its the parks responsibility as a business to let its customers know that their flagship attraction will be closed all season prior to using the ride as advertisement to sell more tickets. If we held more businesses accountable like this we wouldnt be paying extra for less.
I know Kennywood Entertainment Co. was bought (2008) by Palace Entertainment, the U.S. arm of Parques Reunidos. Where does the Festival Fun Parks LLC name come from?
I’ve been to a lot of theme parks over the years and almost every ticket has that same message Not all roller coasters or attractions are always open 🤣🤣🤣. Went to Holiday World last year and only one coaster wasn’t opened due to maintenance checks on the ride called The Legend.
Be real. They're not gonna refund pass holders all because of one ride. People just have unrealistic expectations for the park. Riding rolller coasters is a privilege, not a right.
Looks like a great way to shut down a historical park. Hry guys lets scree the only park thats close to us by taking all their money for repairs upgrades and operating costs andd make it impossible form them to continue to operate. If i were kennywood if i won the lawsuit i would put those people on the lawsuit on a list that upcharges them everything 200 percent and ban the lawyer for life.
I am asking ALL Season Pass holders to refrain from this Lawsuit . it will pass ! . You will be putting Kennywood in a bad spot for such a minor obstruction . If Kennywood was not there . We all will suffer !
I'm amazed Kennywood isn't settling out of court here. It would be so easy to just simply refund each season pass holder $30 which I believe is the season pass value of Steel Curtain. This is really stupid on Kennywood Park, especially because of the bad publicity this is already generating now for them. Evidently a bunch of idiots are running this park and they deserve what they lose at this point.
I csnt believe wtf the world has cime too when 1 ride is closed n these cry babies lose they minds over it this is sbout a quick payout and not about the steel curtain being closed if you can sue over this what prevents any customer for suing for any ride being closed at any even time during the year
You're missing the entire point. Kennywood (most likely) knew that Steel Curtain would be closed, but continued to market season passes without omitting Steel Curtain from the marketing.
the only thing about this that might put the pass holders in the right is if Kennywood directly advertised Steel Curtain being open during a big season pass push and people buying it thinking SC would be open when it wasn't going to be open.
Kennywood should have just left the log jammer alone. This coaster was a stupid idea from the beginning, it's been closed far more than being open and this replaced a classic ride that spent more time running in one season than this thing has since it's been built. These executives are jackasses
They're only taking big precautions with always closing it because the park is here in the northeast where the weather puts a lot of stress on the rides , our winters at some point are bone chilling and very cold temperatures like that is very rough on metal....it's always rainy here in western Pennsylvania and rain is very acidic and it eventually leads to rusting of metal which in turns weakens the metal.
No surprise, but thanks for the reminder. I like to visit Knoebels (have never been to Kennywood but maybe someday). Some comments were saying things like "Why did you post this? It's not even open." I'm a PA resident myself and think it's normal for parks to close in winter -- but not all theme parks do!
I wish that on-site reporter worked for my local news. Fair to the park, fair to season pass purchasers, fair to the attorney. A few good one-liners too.
Seems the park is being proactive! Would you rather have a incident like top thrill had at cedar point? Let them take care of the ride; even if it takes closing it for a year. Have some understanding and save the park some cash, it costs enough bringing you all this entertainment.
They should've fixed the ride in the off season, or better yet 2020 when the whole ride was closed, but the park waits until everyone buys season passes to announce that the ride is closed to gouge money out of everyone
@@SkyrushFanboyIt wasn't broken then, was it? An important part fell out and broke the ride while they were testing. So guess what? They had to close it! It's an extreme record breaking roller coaster, it's GOING TO BREAK.
@@floaque Are you implying that being a record breaking coaster makes it okay for it to be broken? My problem really isn't the ride being closed because it's only number 4th best in the park when it's open in my opinion, but because it's really shady for them to announce the closure last minute. Trust me, the company is desperate for money so I wouldn't be shocked. I blame s&s for the coaster being as unreliable as it is considering the manufacturer's past problematic coasters
@@SkyrushFanboy Yeah, that is. They break all the time, not just Steel Curtain. (Especially new ones). It is a bit shady, but ultimately you don't know when exactly it broke. It could've broke the day after they started selling passes.
These are people living paycheck to paycheck at home with mommy and daddy, your seriously upset that 1 ride is closed? I suggest you catch up real quick and dry your eyes you bunch of babies.. and if you're an adult and this upset you, you may have some mental problems, it's just a ride...
Everyone calling someone greedy, when the former owners sold the park for as much as possible to a greedy company that gives no fs about the park other than milk as much money as they can.
The pass holders will ose and have wasted their money. No amusement park ride is ever guaranteed to working period or not to close down for good. Entitled pass holders that will learn they are too entitled the hard way.
Football is still a silly theme for a coaster.... what does it have anything to do with playing sports? On a side side they should of had discounts on season passes this year due to this ride being closed.
$109…. Is not that much 😂🤣 look at Disney .. they pay $700+ and have major rides down sometimes 6+ months or more… cF annual passes are $200+ Busch gardens $60+ a month Other parks are expensive compared to this and it’s not even a big deal.. Crying over $109… is stupid
What a cash grab and how disgusting ask for a refund if you’re so mad. This is what is wrong with the United States. Top thrill was closed at cedar point. Six flags is always down. I hope they throw this out.
@@JJJJ-he8bz the fact is if kennywood is willing to refund the season pass then what’s the problem? They are all trying to milk it for 1000.00 as if kennywood wanted it closed. It might never reopen. Look at do do dumpa it was closed and people thought it would open. It’s such a gross cash grab. They would have bought the pass anyway
I've never seen an amusement park pass that didn't say "not all rides and attractions may be available" somewhere in the fine print. I see this getting thrown out of court rather quickly...
Same here
It's one of the oldest parks in the world this place is great
I lived in Pittsburgh for 7 years and frequented this park several times a year in the '90s and early 2000s it was okay. It was very historic and nostalgic. I enjoyed the old wooden coasters and the racers. But I don't put it on the same scale as large parks. It's a quaint historic amusement park. But it's far from great at the time I was there it was the steel phantom I wasn't very impressed. And that was their flagship coaster. I would say it's more for young kids than amusement park enthusiasts. They just don't have the scale of rides that most amusement parks do. Most of their coasters would be considered the coaster you hit last at any other park. Other than the thunderbolt really nothing impressive there. I actually enjoyed the indoor coaster the most of everything there.@@PhillipJames-pw1sz
Not to be argumentative but technically you are incorrect. The basis of the lawsuit is that indefinite closures are the point of discrepancy. It has nothing to do with the fine print of the pass, it has everything to do with the timing of the announcement. This is a suspected "bait and switch" scenario. The lawsuit will uncover the paper trail and will likely be a judgment based upon the lapse between determination of resolve and announcement to the public.
In layman's terms, if there's a paper trail showing the park knew months ago, they could be liable for the cost of passes to anyone that fall under that window of a bait-and-switch scam.
The only reason I am confident in this is because I have seen this exact situation play out about 10 years ago or so with a local "waterpark" that is more akin to a public pool, so take that for what it's worth.
@@TrueLies23 The big difference I see though is that Kennywood has like a hundred attractions without Steel Curtain. How many people bought a season pass solely because of that coaster?
All season tickets specifically state that there is no warranty of any ride being open or closed LMFAO
If there is proof that they deliberately waited until after season passes renewed to make the announcement when they likely already knew, then there should definitely be some legal consequence for that. It's manipulative and scummy.
problem issue this park waited until after they sold passes they knew what they were doing
@@KyleJPie10 i disagree. i think rides being open or closed for safety is a valid reason, and prior knowledge does not negate the validity of a season ticket. it's about safety, not about duping customers. they could have known since the park itself opened, it doesn't matter legally. if it was the only ride in the park then yes. the seasonal ticket grants u entry into the park for the season...if a ride is closed, or going to be closed for maintenance there can't be any legal recourse...
@@sonquatsch8585 How many people would have bought passes if they had known Steel Curtain would be closed the entire year? What the park did is manipulative and scummy and there's no question the passholders will win the lawsuit here. Not even a question of that.
@@sonquatsch8585fuck outta here with that garbage, we know they knew and waited for people to buy season passes. Less people are willing to buy season passes when your newest ride is out of order and the 2nd newest one is over a decade old, Kennywood waited to tell people for sure. I'm dead tired of this park, it needs to evolve or die.
so you pay $109 for a season pass but you get $900 back because one roller coaster is down? that's absurd
It is for compensation.
Compensation for what? They only paid $109 and lost out on one ride! @@dreamsthatgotogether7553
@@dreamsthatgotogether7553to compensate what? Why should they pay you? cause 1 roller coaster is down? Give them 20 dollars off the next pass. Americans and their absurd lawsuits.
What about the time you wasted buying the ticket
The interest accrued in your credit card
Electricity used to run your computer or phone while purchasing the tickets
Cost of food to cover the calories used while operating theme park website to type in username credit card # etc.
Upon visiting the park, the time, food/calories and risk of injury that is wasted walking past/around the non-functional ride in order to reach a functional one.
@@dreamsthatgotogether7553so what, like 126.74 after all that is accounted for?
Grow up, have these people ever been to 6 Flags? Their flagship rides are closed like 70% of the season lmao!
I was thinking the same about Sea World or Busch Gardens for us here in Central Florida
Reason I would rather visit Hersheypark instead.
The superman was awesome in Cincinnati
Have they ever tried to ride Top Thrill Dragster?
Yes that's the spirit, accept mediocrity.
Spent much of its life on the sidelines😂😂😂😂
lol while listening to Renegade.
Your good
Come on people. It’s only 109. 00 for a season pass. And compensation can award 900 per pass holder? So in essence, the season pass holders can financially damage or bankrupt the park and a huge loss to Pittsburgh if it would close down and disappear. Let Geauga Lake be the example
Find a bracelet in the parking lot, tell the people at the gate you left your keys or purse in the car then get in for Free 😁
So growing up here living here let it go bankrupt
It causes nothing but problems for the neighborhood never used to till it went corporate!!
Now they push the shootings and fights out to us yes us that live around the park. And we deal with it so you won't find much agreeing in west Mifflin! They do nothing for us .
And Dover Lake, Astroland. Amusement parks fail all the time.
Well, maybe Kennywood should have thought about that before selling season passes at full price. They should have been proactive and offered the holders a discount... But as it is, Kennywood is not worth $75.00 for a single day visit... the park is 96 acres total, parks 2-3x that size charge the same price and you get more attractions.
word is they knew Steel Curtain would not open this year back int he fall of 2023... but they led people on like it would be, and only dropped the bombshell after season pass sales surpassed previous season records... so in essence it was a rug pull.
Kennywood chose to build that ride and spent way less than it would have cost for a reliable B&M that could have been configured the same way... this is what happens when you go cheap the builder is known for problematic rollercoasters. When they owned lake compounce in Bristol, CT they spent money to build Boulder Dash but never spent money to maintain it, instead selling the park and letting the next sucker inherit the problems of roughness.
Kennywood has had poor management for over a decade and unless they replace people it will continue to go downhill.
Oh please. 🙄 What a total waste of any court’s time. If you’re buying a season pass to Kennywood just for one ride, you’ve got problems. I was there for the first time in mid-2021, and Steel Curtain was down. I was disappointed, but it’s just a ride. Also, I live in Orlando and have an annual pass to the Disney parks, and it costs nearly 7 times what Kennywood’s does. And that’s for a discounted Florida resident pass too. So don’t complain to me about an entire season pass for around $100. That’s a total bargain, and you have tons of other incredible rides at the park for that. I think people have been mindlessly buying into legal billboards along the freeway in PA.
It really is a waist of time. I agree $100 is reasonable for a season pass. You go to the park 2 times throughout the season and that pretty much covers the pass price. I don't have a season pass because I can only go to Kennywood once a year, if I lived closer I'd definitely have a season pass.
"I have enough money to where this issue seems trivial to me, so it should be trivial to everyone!"
This is a fine example of why everything cost so much. Kennywood will probably lose out on this lawsuit, but they will just jack up the future season pass rates so no one really wins. In America when you don’t get your own way, you just try to sue people. I find it hard to believe that people bought a season pass for one ride.
It's like the Yesterday lawsuit. 2 morons sued because they spent $2.99 to rent it because they thought an actress was in it because she was in the trailer, but her part got cut from the movie.
Thank you for being able to look at this as an adult and not an emotional child crying because he got vanilla cake instead of Chocolate
Such a shame people will sue over anything and something as stupid as this lol.
No this is a frivolous lawsuit.
And unfortunately, if they loose, Palace Entertainment is already on shaky financial ground. And they bought my neighboring Amusement park in Iowa, Adventureland, a couple of years ago. All these parks will be in danger of closing because there's no operator who is in the shape to buy them all post-COVID just yet.
I'm a season pass holder and have been going to Kennywood for over 50 years. This is a BS lawsuit. Even without this attraction, the Kennywood season passes are a very great value. I buy season passes from many of the parks in the country and Kennywood has the best deal on season passes. This is nothing more than a money grab from greedy people.
Also, there's other Flagship coasters and rides in the park that shouldn't lead to them suing. I mean, you got Phantom's Revenge, Thunderbolt, Racer and Jackrabbit then you have Turtle, Kangaroo, Spinvasion and Aero 360. I went last year knowing Steel Curtain wouldn't be open, I was disappointed, but still had an amazing time at the park.
@@sportsygirl8Literally!! I bought a season pass and I don't care if the Steel Curtain is closed or not. I'm going to Kennywood, it's awesome. Some people are just way too eager for some money.
@@floaque You're right about that. Am I disappointed that Steel Curtain is closed again this year? Yes, but it's not stopping me from going to Kennywood this year or ever, I have a good time at the park anyway. I had a good time going without it and I was at the time scared of Phantom's Revenge. I still enjoyed riding the rest of the roller coasters and the classic historic rides. Now, I am no long scared of Phantom's Revenge, so now i look forward to riding it every year.
That's gotta be expensive lol
Selling passes has nothing to do with the ride,
yeah it does, lots of people buy passes expecting to ride it.
A $10 in-park credit is MORE THAN ENOUGH compensation if you *really* need to be repaid for this
Or refund it and life ban everyone involved in the lawsuit.
@@exploreohio1735 Absolutely!
Nice skyrush pfp
If the Steel Curtin closure was announced, would you still have bought the pass? Why go to court if you don’t want the pass because it is closed, just get the pass refunded. No need for court to handle.
They don't offer refunds on passes.
^ That, and because the passes went on sale BEFORE the park announced it'd be closed
@@jakedryzalIf they would've had a refund option (or frankly any option) this would be a non-issue.
@@jimkubak Totally. Shady business practice all around
As a plaintiff if you get paid, you should forfeit your season pass for the year. Since you clearly made your buying decision on one ride then you probably don’t wanna come to the park in 2024. These
Jokers can’t have their cake and eat it too
I'm sorry but this is so stupid. Just because a ride isn't open, doesn't mean that u need to cry over it and start a lawsuit. This is completely normal for amusement parks. Just look at six flags, or Alton Towers when they closed nemesis.
Sueing them is ridiculous. You want to close down the park permanently? This is how you do it
Something tells me Parques Reunidos (owner of Palace Entertainment, who themselves own Kennywood) can handle the cost, seeing as they run 17 amusement parks internationally, not including the zoos and water parks. This isn't some small family owned business like Knoebels, a lawsuit over season passes isn't the end of the world for a corporation like Parques Reunidos, they would never shut down the park for something like this, lol
That is soo stupid!!
They shouldnt be able to sue KENNYWOOD for that!!!¡!
A refund is in order, not making $900 off of a $100 pass
The people suing will actually regret this, if they win it will push up prices around the park and next year, entrance tickets and season passes prices will increase as well to compensate for the losses which will sadly effect everyone all for the pathetic reason that ONE ride is down all season
Surely this will be thrown out of court anyway, they always state rides and attractions can be unavailable at anytime so surely this will be covered in their terms and conditions of the pass,also it’s ONE bloody ride, YES I would be massively disappointed but I wouldn’t be pathetic to try and sue, there is still lots of other great rides to enjoy at the park
I honestly don't think they care if prices go up lol
Stop buying s&s coasters, they’re always broken.
Ridiculous. Go sue Cedar Point for not having Top Thrill Dragster open, or Disney World for closing Splash Mountain , closing Test Track soon etc , etc. get your money back and move on.
Just refund the people who want refunds. The litigation will cost them way more.
I understand it's not fair if they knew that this season it's gonna be shut down but on the other hand giving people way more than they paid for their passes is not the answer either $900 is ridiculous when you only paid the $106 for the lowest tier pass up to the 239 platinum pass they should just get their passes refunded and get a free season pass because giving them more money than they paid cause financial strain on the park and wind up closing the park and no one will ever write it ever again!
No, this is stupid. There's plenty of attractions, and $100 for a season pass is a very fair price. Rides often are closed for maintenance and repairs, and the pass isn't for just one ride. It states on the website, the ride is closed. The question then would seem when that was posted online as the benchmark of when they decided what to do with the ride, either open as is, close for minor repairs, or close for a long term reimagining. Disney doesn't give refunds if space mountain is closed. Get real. This is such an instant gratification, sue happy world these days! Go enjoy the dang park, and I'm sure you'll get your money's worth! Jimminy Christmas!
What a croc! These people need to suck it up. There are 6 other iconic coasters. I pay 400 for a sea world platinum and I don't throw a fit if ice breaker or cheetah hunt is closed. Get real people!
So you wouldn't be mad if you paid the 400 only to find out when you go that ice breaker and cheetah hunt will be closed FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON? I wouldn't mind knowing that ahead of time before wasting my money.
Icebreaker is your favorite at SWO and Cheetah hunt is your favorite at BGT? Wild thing to say
@@HumanStateOfEmergency every park in the world has maintenance on one of their ride. It's called maintenance rotation. It insures that a ride will always be open instead of closing down the entire park. It is to be expected that one ride in a theme park will always be closed.
Yes thats the spirit accept mediocrity.
@@buster5661maintenance it never worked anyway
This would never happen in the uk. We would just pay the annual pass price and when we found out a signature coaster would be closed afterwards everyone would just go “ok”. 😂
Yall mad over one roller coaster. Me and my family drove 6 hours to Kennywood in 2020 after checking their website and saying everything was open (I’m from NY State and at the time Pennsylvania had the Lowest Covid rates and restrictions) and when we got there almost half of the rides were closed, every time people got off the ride the sprayed it down then ran it again with no one on it to dry it off so that made lines almost wrapped around the whole ride. The black widow was closed, and people had to sit in every other seat on rides which meant that the ride couldn’t operate at full capacity and that made lines even longer. I was a kid at the time so I mean I still found fun in the experience but looking back I didn’t even get to experience about 25% of the park😂
That should be a quick case. When you buy a season pass you get the whole dang park! There's dozens more rides in the park than just Steel Curtain! That pass also has food and merch perks too, so when you buy that pass you're getting your money's worth even if 1 coaster is down the whole season yet again. I love Steel Curtain, yes, I am disappointed it will be closed again, but will that stop me from visiting Kennywood this year? Nope, with it being closed I'll go ride Phantom 2 times as make up. This case should be dismissed.
keep in mind, Steel Curtain is down a lot anyways, because of that the reason you go to Kennywood, is not for Steel Curtain, this will make it a reason. It would be one thing for Lagoon to say Cannibal is down for the season after selling them, that would feel very manipulative because Cannibal is THE reason you go to Lagoon, it's what put it on the map. But for Kennywood, that's Phantom's Revenge, not Steel Curtain because Steel Curtain is down so much.
That's true for enthusiasts, but for the general public, Steel Curtain is the most marketable ride there.
meanwhile, i bought a season pass for disneyland where like 5 rides are consistantly down, not to mention the park closes early for the entire month of may for stupid star wars nights
Geez, people are desperate. Their season pass is equivalent to a day pass in a Disney or Universal theme park 😂.
A bunch of spoiled entitle brats. Just get a refund or file a claim with your bank. IT'S SO EASY EVEN A CAVEMAN CAN DO IT 😂
Clam down grandpa.
If Kennywood had offered refunds, then this wouldn't have been an issue.
@@me-myself-i787 absolutely 💯
As a six flags great adventure season pass holder I am disgusted where’s my El Toro compensation
Same, except for me it's where's my OG Top Thrill Dragster compensation ?
El toro had an accident and was under investigation by the state they couldn’t open it
@@JJJJ-he8bz congratulations
Phantom's Revenge is better anyway.
If I was in charge, I would've let people opt to get a full refund for their season pass if they hadn't used it at all because it's good for PR, like how Merlin (Legoland, Alton Towers, Thorpe Park, etc.) refunds people's tickets when their rides are closed for too long, but they have no obligation.
Why does it have to be a 'lawsuit'? Can't they just offer a refund and claim teh refund?
Why don’t they just tear down Steel Curtain? It’s been nothing but a nightmare for the park.
Because its one of the most popular rides in the park and holds 2 world records (most inversions on any coaster in north america and the tallest inversion on any coaster)
It’s an awesome ride. They just need to get the bugs out of it. Likely new electronics and new trains. The electronics that run the ride never worked right and they very often could not run more than one train on it. Glad I got to ride it when I had the opportunity.
THEN TELL PEOPLE TO STOP VOMPLAINNING ABOUT IT!!!!!!
@@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3odpopular it never worked
@@porcelainthunder2213I think 5 years is enough time to work the bugs out, it just like that piece of junk skyrocket, does that thing even run right
$900. That’s ridiculous. I understand some sort of compensation like a some being a friend free tickets or a single time saver pass for free anytime during the season.. but $900 is asinine
900.00 for $100 season pass that's BS I'm going to give them $100 back and that's it
What an absolutely absurd lawsuit!!! $900 compensation on a $109 season pass for losing out on ONE RIDE. Now everyone else who visits the park who isnt apart of the lawsuit will be the ones paying more if the lawsuit goes through. What an absolute joke, and I hope a reasonable judge tosses it.
Just go to a different park like Hershey or Dorney because they just got Iron Menace.
In this day and age and they can’t build a damn roller coaster, it’s such a shame because that ride was really going to help Kennywood out, I’d never hire that company to build a ride or roller coaster ever again they must really suck
I was going to come from Ohio just to ride this. It looks like something off a cartoon. I should have done it last year when I had the chance.
I mean customers are paying $109 for a season pass to enter the park and enjoy everything available, not just ONE ride. This is why Canada calls the U.S. "sue happy". Ridiculous. I could see if this were the ONLY ride in the park. Surely it's not the only attraction or activity to enjoy at Kennywood.
I agree with the lawsuit, however they should just be refunded, not over compensation
Idewild has ride closed and no one is that us set...dont ket them close the park.......
Suing my local park because their Vekoma SLC which has given thousands of people CTE since it started operating wasn't open this past season when I visited.
Weird. I thought most people were there for Thunderbolt, Racer, and Jack Rabbit.
Yeah I remember my first beer.
Disney charge $150+ for one day at the Magic Kingdom and people suing Kennywood for paying $109 for a season pass 😂
Kennywood facing a lawsuit for closing a ride? Ridiculous if you ask me. Hopefully Kennywood wins the case if this goes to court.
little crazy for one ride, quite the litigious society we have here
If you bought season passes expecting to ride the roller coasters, it's huge. They did not let people know ahead of time that the Steel Curtain would be closed before they purchased their passes
It may just be one ride, but when there aren't many comparable rides, losing that one ride is huge.
Class action suit aside, they are going to take a massive hit from daily ticket buyers
Why sell season passes if people anticipated its opening yet the park likely knew ahead of time that it wasn't going to open this year? It's a fishy business practice and people have the right to know before buying.
@mikero6225 that doesn't really hold up when phantom's revenge is way better than it
This lawsuit has merit. They used pictures of this ride to sell passes all the way until days before opening day when they announced it. They knew and planned its fate likely last season when it didn’t stay open.
So let's sue them so they'll increase their prices and overcharge everyone. Reality check- once prices go up, they don't go back down
@@buster5661 in the middle of litigation. If Kennywood decided to raise prices. You’d know how they care for their patrons. And therefore not want to ever give them money. It’s not about what could happen. It’s about what they DID do. Right vs Wrong. Not Right vs What they might do. Understand the law and manipulation of season pass buyers, and company optics.
@@Feuerfr3i what?? Raising the prices due to a lawsuit is what every company does. Its called off setting costs.
I agree with you. It's a shame all the blind love for kennywood when a greedy company runs it now. These people all just want to accept mediocrity and all the junk rides and overpriced everything kennywood does.
Just give a small discount to the height stand season passes holders. This is so stupid
They tore down the Log Jammer for this piece of garbage?!
Kennywood isn't in the business of keeping fun reliable rides. They're in the business of buying junk rides that don't run, and to milk as much money of their patrons as possible.
I waited almost an hour to ride the thunderbolt this place is home lots of heritage and a great time, the only problem I had was then the ski lifts stopped for almost two hours while on it
Y’all are mad over $109? Get a job that ain’t even that expensive. I could have sued Six Flags LONG ago regarding closed/temperamental attractions if that’s the case.
Stupid lawyer doing stupid lawyer stuff. No one buys a season pass for one attraction. One buys a ticket and experiences whatever is working that day. He might have a case if they shut everything down.
I get both sides but i leaj more towards agreeing with the people that bought season passes. I dont have a problem with the ride being closed for the entire season but as a rollercoaster enthusiast if Steel Curtain is my favorite ride there and i buy a season pass specifically for that ride only to find out itll be closed all season id be upset too. Is it worth a lawsuit? No. But communication is important and you cant just throw money away nowadays so yes i do agree that its the parks responsibility as a business to let its customers know that their flagship attraction will be closed all season prior to using the ride as advertisement to sell more tickets. If we held more businesses accountable like this we wouldnt be paying extra for less.
No, you'd have less theme parks. Every time a theme park closes, it's because of a lawsuit eating all their money
Just go yo another park then....
I know Kennywood Entertainment Co. was bought (2008) by Palace Entertainment, the U.S. arm of Parques Reunidos. Where does the Festival Fun Parks LLC name come from?
I’ve been to a lot of theme parks over the years and almost every ticket has that same message Not all roller coasters or attractions are always open 🤣🤣🤣. Went to Holiday World last year and only one coaster wasn’t opened due to maintenance checks on the ride called The Legend.
Be real. They're not gonna refund pass holders all because of one ride. People just have unrealistic expectations for the park. Riding rolller coasters is a privilege, not a right.
Frivolous Lawsuits. Go sue every amusement park for rides being down all of the time. I did not just buy a pass to ride Steel Curtain
I thought this was going to be a suit over S&S providing one of the least reliable coasters ever made.
GMAFB.....absolutely asinine. They deserve nothing. WOW....a judge ought to throw this out and fine the idiots for wasting the courts time.
Looks like a great way to shut down a historical park. Hry guys lets scree the only park thats close to us by taking all their money for repairs upgrades and operating costs andd make it impossible form them to continue to operate.
If i were kennywood if i won the lawsuit i would put those people on the lawsuit on a list that upcharges them everything 200 percent and ban the lawyer for life.
They sold out to some greedy company fk em.
@@pladampa there’s not many private parks in the country right now. The lawsuit is stupid
I am asking ALL Season Pass holders to refrain from this Lawsuit . it will pass ! . You will be putting Kennywood in a bad spot for such a minor obstruction . If Kennywood was not there . We all will suffer !
So bend over?
You are unreal!
It's not like they're going to disappear over this. That's why they have insurance
Yeah give them another 5 years to fix the piece of junk. That's the spirit accept mediocrity.
Maybe don’t buy your season pass if you have any suspicion that it won’t be open?
I'm amazed Kennywood isn't settling out of court here. It would be so easy to just simply refund each season pass holder $30 which I believe is the season pass value of Steel Curtain. This is really stupid on Kennywood Park, especially because of the bad publicity this is already generating now for them. Evidently a bunch of idiots are running this park and they deserve what they lose at this point.
Its a 9 million dollar piece of junk. Kennywood fell off. Wasn't the sky rocket closed mostly for the firs 5 years too?
I csnt believe wtf the world has cime too when 1 ride is closed n these cry babies lose they minds over it this is sbout a quick payout and not about the steel curtain being closed if you can sue over this what prevents any customer for suing for any ride being closed at any even time during the year
You're missing the entire point. Kennywood (most likely) knew that Steel Curtain would be closed, but continued to market season passes without omitting Steel Curtain from the marketing.
@@jimkubak yes so lets sue them so they'll increase their costs to compensate and then everyone will be overcharged as a result. Great plan
Cause the puec of junk the ride is. Didn't this park get sold to a greedy company to milk as much money as they can off of western Pennsylvanians?
the only thing about this that might put the pass holders in the right is if Kennywood directly advertised Steel Curtain being open during a big season pass push and people buying it thinking SC would be open when it wasn't going to be open.
How are they getting 900 yet with the Disneyland pass lawsuit people only get 65 for spending 1600 on a pass
Kennywood should have just left the log jammer alone. This coaster was a stupid idea from the beginning, it's been closed far more than being open and this replaced a classic ride that spent more time running in one season than this thing has since it's been built. These executives are jackasses
Soo a season pass for only one ride? What a waste of money.
Imagine the people purchasing once in a lifetime tickets for Disney and they could sue over an E-Ticket ride closure.
Not they suing over a damn ride!! lol Season passes has NOTHING to do with rides.
They're only taking big precautions with always closing it because the park is here in the northeast where the weather puts a lot of stress on the rides , our winters at some point are bone chilling and very cold temperatures like that is very rough on metal....it's always rainy here in western Pennsylvania and rain is very acidic and it eventually leads to rusting of metal which in turns weakens the metal.
No surprise, but thanks for the reminder. I like to visit Knoebels (have never been to Kennywood but maybe someday). Some comments were saying things like "Why did you post this? It's not even open." I'm a PA resident myself and think it's normal for parks to close in winter -- but not all theme parks do!
Compensation money due to a closed roller coaster?
How do u think Kenny feels? They just paid millions for a shotty built ride.
I would prefer the ride be closed for safety maintenance than stay open and risk my life or anyone else's.
I wish that on-site reporter worked for my local news. Fair to the park, fair to season pass purchasers, fair to the attorney. A few good one-liners too.
The sole news reporter without a narrative and who is completely neutral and just giving the news
Seems the park is being proactive! Would you rather have a incident like top thrill had at cedar point? Let them take care of the ride; even if it takes closing it for a year. Have some understanding and save the park some cash, it costs enough bringing you all this entertainment.
They should've fixed the ride in the off season, or better yet 2020 when the whole ride was closed, but the park waits until everyone buys season passes to announce that the ride is closed to gouge money out of everyone
@@SkyrushFanboyIt wasn't broken then, was it? An important part fell out and broke the ride while they were testing. So guess what? They had to close it! It's an extreme record breaking roller coaster, it's GOING TO BREAK.
@@floaque Are you implying that being a record breaking coaster makes it okay for it to be broken? My problem really isn't the ride being closed because it's only number 4th best in the park when it's open in my opinion, but because it's really shady for them to announce the closure last minute. Trust me, the company is desperate for money so I wouldn't be shocked. I blame s&s for the coaster being as unreliable as it is considering the manufacturer's past problematic coasters
@@SkyrushFanboy Yeah, that is. They break all the time, not just Steel Curtain. (Especially new ones). It is a bit shady, but ultimately you don't know when exactly it broke. It could've broke the day after they started selling passes.
the ONLY ones that get anything in these lawsuite is the fing lawyers
anchors never used to talk like they're in high school. so weird.
This is like the most American thing ever they could of been more transparent but if it's for safety reasons or maintenance it's hard to argue against
I get the lawsuit. What I don’t get is $900 per passholder? Can someone show me the math for that?
I hope they all lose and have to cover court costs. What a bunch of entitled little babies.
These are people living paycheck to paycheck at home with mommy and daddy, your seriously upset that 1 ride is closed? I suggest you catch up real quick and dry your eyes you bunch of babies.. and if you're an adult and this upset you, you may have some mental problems, it's just a ride...
Holy smokes this is going nothing like I thought it would!! 😬
These people are acting like a bunch of little kids just because all because of 1 ride. Theres other rides to enjoy as well. It's so immature.
So whats a matter with the coaster? Looks pretty awesome to me
While testing it suddenly broke or some important part fell off from what I heard.
You should be grateful that the park is operating. 109 for a season pass and you are complaining?
I kinda’ get it. It’s like a baseball team trading away all of its good players after the next year’s season tickets are sold.
The Aluminum Curtain strikes again
I’ve never been to the park but those pass holders got gipped
Everyone calling someone greedy, when the former owners sold the park for as much as possible to a greedy company that gives no fs about the park other than milk as much money as they can.
The pass holders will ose and have wasted their money. No amusement park ride is ever guaranteed to working period or not to close down for good. Entitled pass holders that will learn they are too entitled the hard way.
Coaster enthusiasts are nutty. So the lawyer is seeing $$$, if Kennywood loses, there go the ticket prices.
The park is going to win this easily
Football is still a silly theme for a coaster.... what does it have anything to do with playing sports? On a side side they should of had discounts on season passes this year due to this ride being closed.
$109…. Is not that much 😂🤣 look at Disney .. they pay $700+ and have major rides down sometimes 6+ months or more…
cF annual passes are $200+
Busch gardens $60+ a month
Other parks are expensive compared to this and it’s not even a big deal..
Crying over $109… is stupid
What a cash grab and how disgusting ask for a refund if you’re so mad. This is what is wrong with the United States. Top thrill was closed at cedar point. Six flags is always down. I hope they throw this out.
Dragster had an accident that almost killed a lady Cedar Point let be known there was no time table on when and if it would open again
@@JJJJ-he8bz the fact is if kennywood is willing to refund the season pass then what’s the problem? They are all trying to milk it for 1000.00 as if kennywood wanted it closed. It might never reopen. Look at do do dumpa it was closed and people thought it would open. It’s such a gross cash grab. They would have bought the pass anyway
@@JJJJ-he8bz also they are claiming if they leave it open it is unsafe and can harm someone. The people suing are going to mess it up for everyone.
@@shanepetyko8004 they are going to do whatever they can to get that ride fixed
So that's makes it okay. That's the spirit accept mediocrity.
People need to calm down. Lawsuit slaphappy claptrappy bobblehead bumbleducks need to sit down and reassess their lives.
The world is so soft everyone needs to sue for everything