So... What's up with Damon Motorcycles?
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Intro
1:24 History
4:56 CoPilot
6:55 HyperDrive Motor
8:57 Shift Technology
10:30 Models
10:55 Hypersport
12:53 Hyperfighter
13:35 Final Thoughts - ตลก
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Bro cover ultraviolet motorcycle. They make cool EVs. 300km range
Hey if you got and extra boom i be happy with that. But i would like the turbo BOOM ffffffttttthhh phew
What happened to the r6??
Jay Giraud, the CEO of Damon motorcycles, has a long history of raising money for various applications and projects that failed. And Damon's business model, with the "reserve now" is the same as Elio Motors...the 3-wheeled vehicle that raised hundreds of millions with no produced vehicle.
You should look at the CEO, CFO, and others that helm Damon motorcycles.
Interesting and conerning, but I couldn't find anything about this. Do you mind sharing some of these failed projects?
@@Drakelett- This motorcycle might be one those failed projects. I say this because Damon motorcycles acquired a lot of the tech and designs with their line of bikes from Mission Motors and their Mission R electric motorcycle. Even with being featured on Jay Leno’s Garage, Mission Motors still failed. The MSRP killed Mission and it’ll likely kill Damon as well especially with the major manufacturers dipping their toes into the EV market.
It looks hideous
@@specialprojekts501 Stark did the same thing - bought up Alta's Ip - put alta's old engines/batteries in a new body, have a cheesy phone for an instrument cluster (they shill that more than the bikes) and make wild claims and use all the silicon valley start up buzzwords. They will take pre-orders but never get production going, which is a shame because the few demo bikes they sent out are apparently pretty good (minus the rear shock). THey are also looking at selling a dirtbike for nearly 20k. The only company I can see actually doing it other than ktm who have done it to some success is yamaha as they have been dominating the EV engine market for cars in the background. If they bring that to their bikes they will take over the market.
I find paying attention is the best inbuilt riding safety feature.
This is why MotoJitsu always says that vision is the #1 most important aspect of riding/cornering
Agree, the safety features are for the times where the rider doesn't see, to help reduce injuries and deaths on motorcycles.
Added complexity often ends up with added points of failure and you end up with a motorcycle as serviceable an iPhone.
Good point but it's important to note that iphone paved way to hundreds of companies that can make better and easily serviceable phones.
Yes its true in a sense... But look at how many flights are safe... You can add the complexity, but you have to make it solid, quality over quantity....
@@toyaboobaby7283 that means increased price as well. There is a reason why planes are damn expensive.
The future is now, old man.
@@ThePicasoBlack The future is the past before you know it, ask your grandad young man.😂
This could be the biggest scam in motorcycle history?
Word of advice: Wait for others to buy it and reviews to come out before you make your decision. You’d never preorder a game, so never preorder a motorcycle
i mean god of war ragnarok was a definite preorder
Way too many people preorder games, but you're 100% correct that no one should. Im very excited for this bike but I need to see it exist and available first
The pre-orders are fully refundable should people change their mind. People who do have a pre-order are holding their place in line for delivery.
I will definitely preorder games, my life is not at stake when playing a game unlike riding a bike...
@@GioooFd3s Because it's not a first gen product and it has good reputation
Your research missed all the fun stuff! They used Ducati Streetfighter footage in their Hyperfighter ad, lots of staff have either quit or been let go, and they've recently abandoned the factory they were building in Vancouver and moved production down to California.
I think its all a big scam
The owners have a bad history apparently.
Imagine how much that copilot system will freak out if you're filtering through city gridlock
thats what i was wondering the constant vibrations would be narly
I would like to see all those safety awareness features incorporated in a helmet HUD. You only ride a motorcycle with your head up if you want to survive and anytime you have to look down for situational awarness you are taking your focus away from where it needs to be. Sell it to a helmet manufacturer and get the hardware/software off the bike and out of the budget. Damon should focus on the performance and weight of the bike itself.
Helmet HUDs do exist, look up Shoei Opticson. They just...kinda suck for various reasons.
I feel so old and I’m only 25. I love mid 2000 inline four sport bikes. Absolutely no tech, no rider assists, just a pure screaming beast that does not want to be tamed. Nothing beats it. I’d take a 2005 R6/R1 over the newer ones anyday.
Good thing these don't really exist then and you can still be riding those mid 2000 bikes.
I will atleast take ABS
I wonder what will happen to the copilot mode if it is used on Indian roads😂😂 where vehicles will be coming from 6 different directions.
I'm pretty sure it would just say no and f ing explode XD
Easy death my brother. You can't predict an indian turn, that's why nobody leans here.
The system can and will be modified for the market it's in.
Those are some neat features, and a much more 'future proof' electric motor design. Too many companies go cheap with a hub motor and call it a day, but they are basically just fast electric bicycles.
The 'Shift' thing is actually one of the biggest features I'm interested in. Imagine new riders and racers alike, while also being able to adjust for your own heigh/weight rather than just settling on what is on offer on the MT-07 or whatever.
Your video makes it sound like Damon motorcycles actually exist. They are very much still in the realm of vaporware. They are making claims for their bikes that are far above what makers of electric bikes you can actually buy like Livewire, Energica, and Zero have been able to deliver. I'd like to see a battery pack for a motorcycle that can deliver 200 miles of highway range with liquid cooling. Unless Damon has some magic new high energy density battery chemistry it isn't going to happen. How about a review of a real available electric bike from the brand you haven't covered yet, Energica?
They don't have their plant up and running yet despite it being built a while ago. The owners have a history of hyping projects, getting pre-orders and running with the money. Stark is doing the exact same thing right now. Would like to see a good ev bike with maybe a electronic shift (for fun so it doesn't feel like a scooter)
@@corail53Stark Varg is a LEGIT company. Tons of real owners posting vids on TH-cam. Damon ... NOT so much.
I live pretty close to they’re brand new factory/showroom they finished building about a year ago, it’s literally been an empty warehouse for the past year which makes me wonder if they’re feeling some financial struggles now lol. And hearing the guys history of not following through gives bad vibes of the future for Damon.
You should break in.
They have most likely burned through their VC funds already and with the rate hikes probably can't get new funding rounds. I would not doubt they can the whole thing.
They recently announced they abandoned it entirely. Jay claims that the Canadian government failed him.
Oh no!
I'm 4.5 minutes into the video and still can't tell if he's just reading a company press release / advertisement?
This company sounds like a future “stole billions” episode on Cold Fusion.
First product? I don't believe Damon has produced any models yet.
If they have, I e never seen anything on them. I dislike electric vehicles just bc of the huge misconception that they are somehow better for the environment when in reality they are just as bad but in a different way and we still need coal regardless to make electricity to charge them 😂. That being said I thing the Damon hyper sport bike is the sexiest sport bike I've ever seen. That bike looks perfect and I'm not even that into sport bikes but I'd buy that one haha.
Also there must be at the very least some prototypes out as Yami got video from somewhere and it's definitely real video as well as all the awards the company has gotten witch noone gets an award for tech and design if they haven't been able to even make or use that tech and design lol
@@josephlilley9249 They only have enough for demo's but they are actually just prototypes. This company has no manufacturing yet, their plant is empty (live near it). The owners have a long history of taking vc funds, marketing a product, taking pre-orders and then running. Awards mean nothing in reality and if they are coming from magazines - easily bought and paid for.
Correct. This video is misinformed.
one of my favorite videos, very intriguing i love the research you put into it thanks!
I hate how the new vehicles promote reliance on tech for safety rather than actually being a good driver/rider
i believe the addition of all the tech is to aid the rider, not be the rider. It's to make for an overall easier riding experience, but I know what you mean
I really hope damon turns out to be what they say. The range and looks of this bike actually makes me want one. But price will dictate a lot
Price will be at least 30-40k
@@Wisperride if the range is really like 160-180 mph then ok not the worst price. But damn i think id still pick a BMW S1000 instead
@@Wisperrideno there’s different versions that r way cheaper
Been with you from the start Yammie and you have come a long way! Great video! As Always, May God Bless you and yours! 😇
I saw this at CES. Really cool! Hope to ride one someday.
How are the wheelies coming Yammie? Perhaps a progress video?! 😂
Most important feature a Electric Bike can offer me is the ability to shift gears, I want one that is just EV motor and the rest left alone give me a clutch gears ETC Just my personal Preference
That was a shameless infomercial for a motorcycle that doesn't yet exist.
I think that “Shift” feature would be fantastic on a bike like the Ducati Diavel. Cruiser to sport bike with a press of a button.
I put down the $100 deposit for the HS 200 hp model August of 2021. I'm near the beginning of the list if they ever actually start coming out.
The most annoying thing is at the time I reserved they were saying they would be coming out Mid-Late 2022. Then they changed it to early 2023. Then late 2023 and as of about 3 weeks ago when they sent out a new news letter they said early 2024. So its looking like one of those failed companies even though they have had a running model for videos since 2020.
When they come out I'm going to check other peoples reviews first and if it suck ass and was a lie I'll cancel my reserve.
That being said if I do get it you're welcome to ride it for a video review.
Takes time. I’m sure they do it too see how it does against the test of time. After all, it is a new electric concept bike, it needs to be safe.
So many "shortages" now a days I'm sure that can contribute to delays as well.
Their manufacturing plant is sitting empty and it has been built for over a year now.
My guy ....... Not only are you not getting a bike, but you also aren't getting that $100 back. The company is dead in every thing but name. the Co founder and creative design.... Basically the only guy with experience behind the project already left and abandoned ship.
Sounds like a lot of other shady startups…
I cancelled my order yesterday. There was way too much visual hype, but nothing on when it is actually releasing. When I requested my money back, the "person" said they are beginning production.......🤔🤔. I just don't think this will be out anytime soon, or at all. I need more than Instagram and Facebook visuals, when I can just walk into X shop and buy a bike on the spot.
Brock Davidson has an Energica, and got 175 lbs. ft. torque and 155HP on his dyno. He said on his test ride that it is Stupid Fast.
Never forget they used a Ducati video in there marketing video 😂
I'm certain it's a scam. They've been saying they have bikes ready for years, asking for deposits, still scant evidence they even have a bike that moves longer than 20 seconds.
Looks promising, I hope it lives up to what it proposes itself to be.
The warehouse/manufacturing plant is sitting empty - they haven't even gotten to the point of basic production.
@@corail53 it's not just empty. They actively abandoned it. They're going to move to a tiny garage in San Rafael. Co founder Dom Kwong left. Bunch of layoffs.
Unfortunately the company is already dead. The only people that had any experience or knowledge already abandoned ship
Looks good to be honest, can't wait to see an in person impartial review, by anybody, hopefully soon!
Just got myself the helmet off the site and I did NOT expect it to arrive as fast as it did.
Really interesting new brand. It's gonna be hard to find aftermarket parts like power commanders and slip on's for such a new brand.
"No one has ridden one of these bikes yet". Also, "Over $100M of bikes sold". What is WRONG with people?
"a dodge charger running from the repo" boooiiiiiii you aint never lied lmao
This bike is sic! Let’s be clear here, Damon’s #1 goal is to empty bank accounts.
It’s almost definitely vaporware
The most you can rely on is yourself as a responsible rider.
Delivery begins in 2024*
*All dates are estimates and are subject to change
Today's video is sponsored by Damon Motorcycles.
Battery max of 21.5KWH.
One gallon of gasoline contains 33.7KWH of potential energy. Of that 33.7KWH, about 22% is actually used to propel the vehicle giving us 7.4KWH of energy per gallon. So a 5 gallon tank will yield around 37.7KWH of usable energy.
For electric motors, about 72% of potential energy is used to propel the vehicle giving us 15.5 KWH of usable energy in this case. Or, the equivalent of about 2-ish gallons of fuel.
Obviously these are very rough numbers, but I seriously doubt the range claims unless you are absolutely hyper mile-ing the thing at 40mph.
Seems to be the way e-vehicles are going Eternium Aerospace is also making power and propulsion systems that can be used in other aircraft as well as their own jet. Sick bike though.
Thanks Yammie for your research. Always interesting. Would love to own one of these one day.
The haptic feedback would probably have my bars vibrating more than my ICE bike. Everything about this thing screams scam to me, but if it's actually a production bike it'll be cool to see them on the market.
Ultraviollete F77 already debut and on market, meanwhile this Damon... uh? too much feature will delay it + some features will kill the battery faster than its speed
great video, very informative!! How about another video similar to this about zero motorcycles 😁
When they start using kinetic energy to charge whilst you drive then I’ll consider one, but a bike or car that needs charged seems counterproductive to me, if your on a drive through the mountains and you run out of juice what do you do?
When the laws of thermodynamics change in our universe I'm sure you'll be the first one they call.
Was waiting for you yo make a video on them
WOW great show bro 🤟🎉
What's your thoughts on an Aprilia SXV550 and 450?
Would only love to have it be based on a 800V system instead of 450V; that would have boosted the time to recharge the battery
IT’s November 2023 and Damon claims they still don’t have the funding for the tooling for production 🤯 I feel sorry for all the people who put their money in Damon’s bank account 🤦♂️
In 2023 They ( Damon ) are saying that the bike will launch in early 2024, in 2024 they will definitely say that the bike will launch in early 2025. And in 2025 they again say that the bike will launch in early 2026🤣
They need to put out more in-depth content , I want one but need to see more before making a decision
Don’t buy till they’re in production. As someone pointed out, CEO has a history of advertising products, making millions, and never producing anything.
Their manufacturing plant they built over a year ago is still sitting empty.
They abandoned the manufacturing plant altogether and the CO founder left. They laid off 11 people. It's dead in the water.
I have a feeling smart vehicles are going to want to go into limp mode or pull over when it sees blue flashing lights behind.
200hp and for how long use the 200hp and no range
Have they actually built one yet
It's great you can order one but do they actually exist or are they still in development like the tesla semi
I'm just waiting for the first sportbike to have an "ice/snow" riding mode.
Could you please cover the Ultraviolette F77? It's an electric sports motorcycle, the best in India, but I haven't seen much coverage of it outside of india. I think you'll find it quite interesting.
Then he would have to travel to India to test it. And since it's an Indian bike, only sold in India why would there be any coverage of it outside of India?
@@darkiee69 It will be sold in the US and other markets sometime next year. He covered this bike without testing it, so why not that one?
@@challacustica9049 Probably because no one outside India have ever heard of it. If it makes it to the states he might cover it.
@@darkiee69 Sorry if I didn't word that correctly at the end. I understand that he probably hasn't heard it. I just meant to say that if he can cover this bike without testing it, he could do it for the F77.
They already put in on the dyno!!!
I want the streetfighter they make. It would be perfect for driving back and forth to town without using my V8 truck all the time.
I’m a reservation holder for the Hypersport HS. I reserved it when the price was $25k. I can’t wait for this bike.
You will be waiting a long time.
They abandoned the factory in Canada. Did you see the email? They're moving to a tiny garage in San Rafael that shares floorspace with a sandwich shop and a bank.
@@mvetterno way
@@STG-Media way. Michael's Sourdough Sandwiches! It's unknown if you get a fresh loaf with your bike reservation but that would seem nice.
@@mvetter my goodness thanks for sharing I’m going to look into this. I heard they were going into hardships but I didn’t look into it that’s kinda normal with business... Hearing this new news from you though , it looks like things got ALOT worse. Moving to a sandwich shop?! That’s scammer moves lol
Hey there Yammie! Can you do a Review on CFMOTO GT400/650?
I asked chat gtp about this motorcycle and it laughed.
The noise is half the reason I wanted a motorcycle. I don't want a silent one.
it sounds amazing on paper and the way you explained it all but idk man
0:33 - Motorcycles from Damon "almost exists" really says it all :D
I am always laughing when your videos end
what motorbike licence would this E-Bike fall into Full A or A2 ???
I'd be on an e bike but I love my clutch way to much. Clutch ups are orgasmic and with new bikes means more disabled safety sensors.
It’s more of a novelty, the experience of riding is the sound of the engine changing gears it’s being part of the experience and not just being along for the ride
I hope they sell well so I can buy one used in 10 years
Itl need a new battery by then.
I'll believe it when I see it move under its own power, without a soundtrack over it
Killing it with the content lately.
Hard work and intelligent topics -
Thank you
However cool this might be, it still suffers from the pain of waiting a full hour for the charge after 2-3 hours of riding.
I am honestly not a electric fan but if they brought the price down I wouldn’t be against this in the slightest for a commuter bike it would be awesome and as a 6’4 rider I appreciate the adjustability
My humerus is now recovering after a car tin into my bike and sometimes I wonder if it would have been better if I had cameras? But with the exception of gathering evidence I think not since I had already stopped, all this expensive technology just to get killed by one crazy driver. Maybe what we need is less automation and fewer crazy people on the road.
This has the stench of vaporware all over it, 4 years since introduction, 3 since pre-order and none have been delivered, no one has even ridden a pre-production model…
I haven't heard my name so favorably since running man. Except for the end of that movie. Yeesh.
I'd stop and pick up the DVDs
Bro cover ultraviolet motorcycle. They make cool EVs. 300km range
What does it sound like???
the second honda makes a solid e bike this will be history
Like almost all EV bikes - they sort of turn out to be vapour ware. They tend to run these companies following the tesla model (silicon valley model) which is get a ton of VC funding, get a prototype out and make some wild claims - good marketing videos - Get pre - orders to proceed to stay stay in business long enough to burn through it and produce nothing. It is a plague in the in the tech industry and seemingly so in this world. Stark did the exact same thing - bought up all of Alta's IP and built a new bike - take preorders and try to focus marketing on their "phone" integration system. These guys tend to live off of VC funds.
Why would you need different riding positions if at most your range is 200 miles and then at it’s fastest you’re fully charged in 45 minutes? My R6 can go about 150 miles before it needs a fill up. I can do the 150 miles with 20-30 minute breaks all day, and I’m an old man, and the R6 is pretty uncomfortable and agressive. Seems like an unnecessary luxury until either the range increases or the charging time decreases.
ok, so my main question is... where do I find these trucks with the hentai dvds?
Is there a release date? When will we see production models on the street?
They don't have their plant up and running yet. They have pushed their first release date back 3 times already and i suspect it will continue to be that way for a long while.
@@corail53 That's rough.
Yea and If's a ' I ever get the, much appreciated chance to ride a Damon Motorcycle, it will be my High Honor to Fill Anybody Interested , In with my Perceptions of Riding the Hyper-Sport Premiere with the Ohlin/Brembo Kit et al.
Mr. Noob:
Tks.
I've been waiting for this bike to come out for over three years and I'm starting to lose hope. Canceled my preorder.
Can it beat a Busa or an H2?
Damon hasn't created anything other than a concept to take peoples money. They still haven't delivered a single motorcycle and keep pushing back delivery dates every year.
Long after the last Damon investor have given up hope of ever seeing their money again there will be DRZ 400 thumping around.
Looks interesting, but I wonder about the sound. Sure, it having no exhaust means no typical bike-sound, if you can live with that, fine.
But what I actually mean is, electric cars are super silent, and this will probably be awell. Do I really want to NOT get heard by cars and such as I approach?
Seems like a big negative in terms of safety if you think about it
I am interested in its reliability and shelf life
Dang, I've never seen a jet ski do backflips like that
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It's a shame that you cannot "mix and match" on the levels of the bikes. I don't want--or need--to do 155 mph (last I looked, that's pretty much illegal everywhere but racetracks and the autobahn, but I digress...), but I would l prefer one of the bigger batteries for range.
However, I'll stick with my gas engines until they come for them...and will stick with them after that. (Operation: "Red Barchetta".)
You've gotta ride a Damon and tell us about it.
I heard they already pulled out of their factory in Surrey, BC. All the factory related videos already disappeared (except for the one made by city of Surrey) I guess they are blowing through their money a bit too fast.
I wanna put that drivetrain on my Navi
I know what you’re referring to. you wanna DRZ in the street but a daymon in the sheets that say yeah.