Superman vs the elite is a great movie that shows who Superman is, what he stands for, and why good people like him are relevant in this world, regardless of how much the world changes.
That scene where he's acting like the Elite is so powerful, because it remind people just how much they take his kind nature for granted. That if people like the Elite ever went too far and started going after innocents, the Superman would be there to stop them. But when Superman does whatever he wants, there's no one to really stop him. We don't see any other heroes (since this is focused on Superman) but given what he did while playing serious, most of them wouldn't be able to stop him before he took them out. The world's only hope would be to keep their heads down and pray he doesn't decide they're guilty of something.
I completely agree people like to say oh but Batman prep time no. Even Batman states if Superman has full control over his body and sound of mind no one on the planet can stop him if he wants you dead he can and will kill you. No prep time no other justice league member outside of 3 wonder women, martian man Hunter and doctor fate can possibly stop him if he went all out with killing intent and did it on a random day with no signs of change or anything.
This is truly one of Superman's greatest animated movies! It also shows how important he's always been as a superhero and how he can inspire us to be good people ourselves in real life.
The reason for a lack of character depth of the Elite is because they are [not much of] a parody of The Authority, who were very popular at the time of the comic's publication. It is assumed that folks will know enough about them without going in depth, the same as the many parodies of the Justice League.
Honestly, the fact that The Authority are all but forgotten a few decades later while Superman is still a household name 80+ years on sort of proves this story's thesis.
people got bored of vanilla good boy scout superman because we've been living in relative peace since the cold war ended. Now that times are uncertain protagonists like Superman are being appreciate once again.
Fun fact: he actually never lobotomized manchester black. he kinda just gave him a small heatstroke that dazed him. but because clark was so fucking scary and is a damn good actor, he was scared shitless of that possibility
You can't talk about this story without talking about The Authority, which was the direct inspiration for the Elite. Their leader, Jenny Sparks is the same British Union Jack type. They have a dimensional shifting ship and they were they ones spearheading the idea of superheroes acting to overthrow governments, to the point where "Willy", a US sponsored supervillain with thousands of powers, takes them out. "Welcome to the Oval office president Gore", indeed.
What compliments the source material more was the fact that it was merely a reaction towards the anti-heroes trend in the '90s (Punisher, Authority, etc), but it still applies to what came after (invincible[3 years], TheBoys[6 years], Irredeemable[9 years], etc. These numbers mean their establish gap, which superman predated) Little did supe realize that it was just the beginning, and also the animated movie came out a year prior to MoS
Nowadays this movie is a hard critique to the edgelord anti-heroes becoming trendy again in the 2020s. Just look at all the attempts to make evil Superman.
Ironically the TV Show of the Boys have a better understanding of Sups as a Character than its comics hence why they can pull of a Dark Parody of Superman.
This not only my faorite Superman animated movie, is also my favorite DC animated movie. This moves depicts Superman so perfectly, I don't think it will be topped in a long time
*To me this movie is my favourite Superman movie* I adore everything about this movie and to me it perfectly encapsulates everything that makes Superman important in today's world and why now more than ever as countries fo to war, people die and nihilism and cynicism affect countless today, Superman acts to remind us that their is hope and that he truly believes in everyone even if his enemies and the Elite and Manchester Black are a great representation of the 21st century a cynism and misguided justice, they are an antithisis of Superman's morals and everything he doesn't want to be be. Superman feels the weight of every person he cant save and it mentally affects him like an anchor holding the weight of the world on his back yet when hes tempted by those dark thoughts he chooses to be good despite his immense powers, because Superman just wants to help and truly believes in us all even when we don't believe in ourselves. It adapts the story "What's so funny about truth, Justice and the American Way" perfectly I couldn't recommend this film enough to the people who say Superman is boring, because to me this film really disproves that notion quite well. It just frustratingly confuses me how such an amazing DC animated film is overlooked?
And james gunn si going to use whats so great about justice and the american way for superman legacy using the authority which is perfect I think to show the core of the character while also making it a cool film
2:00 - "Giant. Spider. Robot. Things... Is the head of Pokolistani bio-weapon research team a 9-year old boy?" Mm, no. The head of the research team is notorious film producer Jon Peters.
Never understood why people blame characters like Superman and Batman for not killing their villains and hand them to the law instead. Why not blame the law for not issuing the death penalty? It’s not the hero’s right to dictate who lives and dies. Their job is simply keeping people safe.
@@RedCommunistDragontbf superman puts them in the phantom zone which isn't escapable without like the writers wanting it to which is something death isn't immune to either
@@trollfacemafiagaming6036 If he doesn’t want to put them down for good, then the Phantom Zone is far better place to imprison wicked individuals than simply prison. Far less likely to escape😉
I think another thing that doesnt get asked is that if Superman DID kill Lex is who would actually prosecute him? Same goes for Batman. "Superman why did you kill Lex Luthor?" "He was attempting to destroy the Justice League." End of statment, no questions asked. Even still there are people in DC who can FORCE you to tell the truth.
100% especially since he will be debuting in a pre established universe which could be similar in tone to the boys and have superman bring hope and justice and be the idealistic light in a world that had non The elite can be rather untouched just funded by Waller in this version and are sent in to attempt to give superman a reality check also Manchester black should be played by David tenet
Do you know why Goku is not considered boring and Superman is considered boring? The answer is that Goku doesn't need a live action movie made by James Gunn to be loved.
Fun fact, Superman was never an icon for "the American way" in the original runs. He was actually a socialist written created be two Jewish people as a Moses allegory, who stood for the weak and lower class. "The American way" was a tagline used for the 1940s radio serials Superman appeared in to boost morale for WW2.
Source : I made it the fuck up lmao seriously why would any think two Jewish immigrants would make a pro commie hero when commies hates jews and made death camps for them in Germany
Yeah, cause if superman flies faster than the speed of light and blows up the Earth instantly upon immediate impact Batman can stop him with his 2 inch piece of green rock. Sure lol. I love batman too but we all have to be honest, Bruce only beats Clark (sometimes) because the writers want him too.
@@oldmanbiscuit7518uh batman would never beat saitama even with prep time, saitama’s power is practically infinite. When he fought Garou, he was growing in power so fast that Garou (who was literally copying Saitama’s power) couldn’t keep up. And these guys were punting each other across the solar system like they were playing a game of ping pong. Saitama would only need a single punch to kill Batman, which he would only do if batman lunged at him/tried to attack him. If Batman chose the long, research how to beat him way, he would be doing that until one of them dies of old age.
@@oldmanbiscuit7518I’d like to hear the logic behind how Batman could beat Saitama, because I don’t see a single possibility. Saitama is so strong he just straight up GRABBED a portal. He even kicked one away. Which is basically space. He grabbed warped space. That said, I believe Saitama could even survive the universe being erased. If bro can grab it and kick it away like a soccer ball then I’m sure he’d survive.
Me: This is why I love Superman, Despite the hard moral Dillema, He still finds hope in showing and teaching everyone that the act of taking someone's life is cruel, Even towards Bad people. Also me: Injustice Superman was right, He wasnt wrong at wiping every Criminals at the face of the Earth
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Superman vs the elite is a great movie that shows who Superman is, what he stands for, and why good people like him are relevant in this world, regardless of how much the world changes.
Amen to that!👍🏿
Lex Luthor is mastermind indeed. Afterall, one day he took 40 cakes. That's as many as four tens.And that's terrible xD
Oh no that is terrible😮
Forty
I love how that is actually canon to the dc world as i think something lex got detention for.
You call that terrible? He didn’t even wash his hands after using the restroom!
@@bread5384 Well duh, it's 'cause he's evil.
That scene where he's acting like the Elite is so powerful, because it remind people just how much they take his kind nature for granted. That if people like the Elite ever went too far and started going after innocents, the Superman would be there to stop them. But when Superman does whatever he wants, there's no one to really stop him. We don't see any other heroes (since this is focused on Superman) but given what he did while playing serious, most of them wouldn't be able to stop him before he took them out. The world's only hope would be to keep their heads down and pray he doesn't decide they're guilty of something.
Basically the opposite of injustice
Its kinda funny how The Boys gets that aspect of Superman more sometimes than DC.
I completely agree people like to say oh but Batman prep time no. Even Batman states if Superman has full control over his body and sound of mind no one on the planet can stop him if he wants you dead he can and will kill you. No prep time no other justice league member outside of 3 wonder women, martian man Hunter and doctor fate can possibly stop him if he went all out with killing intent and did it on a random day with no signs of change or anything.
This is truly one of Superman's greatest animated movies! It also shows how important he's always been as a superhero and how he can inspire us to be good people ourselves in real life.
ive been chuckling nonstop at "terrible, incurable disease.. being british"
why is it so funny 😂
just like the academy taught them , help !
The reason for a lack of character depth of the Elite is because they are [not much of] a parody of The Authority, who were very popular at the time of the comic's publication. It is assumed that folks will know enough about them without going in depth, the same as the many parodies of the Justice League.
Honestly, the fact that The Authority are all but forgotten a few decades later while Superman is still a household name 80+ years on sort of proves this story's thesis.
people got bored of vanilla good boy scout superman because we've been living in relative peace since the cold war ended. Now that times are uncertain protagonists like Superman are being appreciate once again.
My forever favourite Superman movie! Also,George Newbern aka MY Superman growing up reading the "Dreams Save us.." speech. Oh man. CHILLS
Our world is sorely lacking a symbol of hope and all Superman can do is reach out behind the pages and give us the strength to do the right thing.
Fun fact: he actually never lobotomized manchester black. he kinda just gave him a small heatstroke that dazed him. but because clark was so fucking scary and is a damn good actor, he was scared shitless of that possibility
You can't talk about this story without talking about The Authority, which was the direct inspiration for the Elite. Their leader, Jenny Sparks is the same British Union Jack type. They have a dimensional shifting ship and they were they ones spearheading the idea of superheroes acting to overthrow governments, to the point where "Willy", a US sponsored supervillain with thousands of powers, takes them out. "Welcome to the Oval office president Gore", indeed.
What compliments the source material more was the fact that it was merely a reaction towards the anti-heroes trend in the '90s (Punisher, Authority, etc), but it still applies to what came after (invincible[3 years], TheBoys[6 years], Irredeemable[9 years], etc. These numbers mean their establish gap, which superman predated)
Little did supe realize that it was just the beginning, and also the animated movie came out a year prior to MoS
Nowadays this movie is a hard critique to the edgelord anti-heroes becoming trendy again in the 2020s. Just look at all the attempts to make evil Superman.
Ironically the TV Show of the Boys have a better understanding of Sups as a Character than its comics hence why they can pull of a Dark Parody of Superman.
This not only my faorite Superman animated movie, is also my favorite DC animated movie. This moves depicts Superman so perfectly, I don't think it will be topped in a long time
After this movie, ive definitely come to respect superman as a character alot more, I used to dislike him, but this one brought me around.
Ah yes, Superman beats up the Sex Pistols, my favorite.
*To me this movie is my favourite Superman movie*
I adore everything about this movie and to me it perfectly encapsulates everything that makes Superman important in today's world and why now more than ever as countries fo to war, people die and nihilism and cynicism affect countless today, Superman acts to remind us that their is hope and that he truly believes in everyone even if his enemies and the Elite and Manchester Black are a great representation of the 21st century a cynism and misguided justice, they are an antithisis of Superman's morals and everything he doesn't want to be be. Superman feels the weight of every person he cant save and it mentally affects him like an anchor holding the weight of the world on his back yet when hes tempted by those dark thoughts he chooses to be good despite his immense powers, because Superman just wants to help and truly believes in us all even when we don't believe in ourselves.
It adapts the story "What's so funny about truth, Justice and the American Way" perfectly
I couldn't recommend this film enough to the people who say Superman is boring, because to me this film really disproves that notion quite well.
It just frustratingly confuses me how such an amazing DC animated film is overlooked?
And james gunn si going to use whats so great about justice and the american way for superman legacy using the authority which is perfect I think to show the core of the character while also making it a cool film
it fits much more since the authority was one of those 90s anti-hero trend that the source material was meant to criticize
2:00 - "Giant. Spider. Robot. Things... Is the head of Pokolistani bio-weapon research team a 9-year old boy?"
Mm, no. The head of the research team is notorious film producer Jon Peters.
I wish this was DCEMU's first movie and animated like it.
Never understood why people blame characters like Superman and Batman for not killing their villains and hand them to the law instead. Why not blame the law for not issuing the death penalty? It’s not the hero’s right to dictate who lives and dies. Their job is simply keeping people safe.
Tbf, if they know the law won’t execute them; why even give them to the law to begin with?
@@RedCommunistDragontbf superman puts them in the phantom zone which isn't escapable without like the writers wanting it to which is something death isn't immune to either
@@trollfacemafiagaming6036 If he doesn’t want to put them down for good, then the Phantom Zone is far better place to imprison wicked individuals than simply prison. Far less likely to escape😉
2:32 wheres my boi miles :side note storms a woman
In the comic, they didn't actually fight on a life-supporting alien planet, but the Jovian moon Io.
As Sheldon Cooper stated, "Rules are the pillars of society. I love rules....society's rules are what keeps a person's morality in check. "
3:47 am I the only one who sees her getting thrown because of her kick not an intentional movie from the police?
i feel so bad for him bro 😭, i cant imagine what it would be like to be infected with british-gitis
Thoughtful video!
Why do many people want side characters to be fleshed out?
ah yes, an alien planet somewhere, aka, io
2:25 you got my ass
All the garbage writters who keep trying to make superman edgy or straight up evil need to watch this movie, and NOT miss the point of it.
I think another thing that doesnt get asked is that if Superman DID kill Lex is who would actually prosecute him? Same goes for Batman. "Superman why did you kill Lex Luthor?"
"He was attempting to destroy the Justice League."
End of statment, no questions asked. Even still there are people in DC who can FORCE you to tell the truth.
is there a superhero or anti hero that doenst kill the villain at least for a while but if they dont get better eventually they run out of chances?
This movie should literally get a live action movie, honestly it should be the first story in any DC cinematic universe
100% especially since he will be debuting in a pre established universe which could be similar in tone to the boys and have superman bring hope and justice and be the idealistic light in a world that had non
The elite can be rather untouched just funded by Waller in this version and are sent in to attempt to give superman a reality check also Manchester black should be played by David tenet
"first story in DC cinematic universe" No, we don't need universes/continuations jibes. Just let it be on its own story
@@spiderjerusalem4009 I know I love solo projects but the new film will be the first in the new continuity
Do you know why Goku is not considered boring and Superman is considered boring?
The answer is that Goku doesn't need a live action movie made by James Gunn to be loved.
@@veronicasanchezvazquez373 um... No, that is so incredibly illogical.
Superman is a phenomenal character
6:10 hey atleast they dont go to the JUPPITER'S MOON IO
Fun fact, Superman was never an icon for "the American way" in the original runs. He was actually a socialist written created be two Jewish people as a Moses allegory, who stood for the weak and lower class. "The American way" was a tagline used for the 1940s radio serials Superman appeared in to boost morale for WW2.
Source : I made it the fuck up lmao seriously why would any think two Jewish immigrants would make a pro commie hero when commies hates jews and made death camps for them in Germany
@@UsuarioGenerico-li5pf well good to see you admit it
@@subjectnivleis7572 admit what?
Haven't seen this in ten years, but I do remember siding way more with the Elite.
bad is bad, good is good
ok
but you cannot deny supermans OP powers.
Stuper man more like it. He wouldnt last 5 minutes against Batman with prep time.
Yeah, cause if superman flies faster than the speed of light and blows up the Earth instantly upon immediate impact Batman can stop him with his 2 inch piece of green rock. Sure lol. I love batman too but we all have to be honest, Bruce only beats Clark (sometimes) because the writers want him too.
But Can he beat Goku doh?
@@boomerzoomerXD001 With prep time, he can even beat Saitama. Something that Stuper Man could never do.
@@oldmanbiscuit7518uh batman would never beat saitama even with prep time, saitama’s power is practically infinite. When he fought Garou, he was growing in power so fast that Garou (who was literally copying Saitama’s power) couldn’t keep up. And these guys were punting each other across the solar system like they were playing a game of ping pong. Saitama would only need a single punch to kill Batman, which he would only do if batman lunged at him/tried to attack him. If Batman chose the long, research how to beat him way, he would be doing that until one of them dies of old age.
@@oldmanbiscuit7518I’d like to hear the logic behind how Batman could beat Saitama, because I don’t see a single possibility. Saitama is so strong he just straight up GRABBED a portal. He even kicked one away. Which is basically space. He grabbed warped space. That said, I believe Saitama could even survive the universe being erased. If bro can grab it and kick it away like a soccer ball then I’m sure he’d survive.
Me: This is why I love Superman, Despite the hard moral Dillema, He still finds hope in showing and teaching everyone that the act of taking someone's life is cruel, Even towards Bad people.
Also me: Injustice Superman was right, He wasnt wrong at wiping every Criminals at the face of the Earth