My missus is a diving instructor too, so I fully understand the logic of the fix you performed. However, I took a different approach with my 2019 Euro 4 model, that of ventilation. I read somewhere that there are stickers on the back of the instrument cluster covering up holes. Sure enough, I found four plain black round stickers which, when removed, exposed four holes about 6-7mm dia. It worked! No condensation at all since then. Keep the videos coming, very informative.
Good little fix that! The colour change in the silica gel is caused by a small amout of cobalt present. In its normal state the arrangement of ligands is tetrahedral and is blue but as it absorbs water it turns octahedral and pink.
I'll be trying the gasket and silica pack on mine, thanks for the tip... incidentally I've got a seat Leon with LED headlights both sporting 100g silica packs in the backs of them and that keeps the fogging under control in those 👌🏻
Hollow o-ring cord? That's amazing! My only concern with your fix is that the foam is still there. If leaky foam is the problem, the moisture passage still exists, albeit more restricted by the pressure from the cord. If you don't want to remove the foam, the above suggestion of silicone grease would help. I recommend really working it into the foam to fill passages. Filling up the electrical contact bay with grease before replugging could help eliminate that potential entrance. I really like how you did so many things at once to stop the problem. Wonderful and thorough. If my own cluster fogs, I'll keep your methods in mind. Thank you!
Thanks Andrew...don't even remember where I got that rubber it's been lying around with my dive gear for years lol. So far far so good it's been 3 days and the console is crystal clear so far so good 👍
Thanks for the solution, works really well. I only found out its very hard to push the buttons on the dash because of the increased height due to the elastic. I 'extended' the plastic sticks which push the buttons and now they are working better than before.
I agree I wouldn't want to drill holes in the instrument housing. I am in the North of England, and I definitely wouldn't do it where you are when you ride in bad weather as much as you do. I tried pausing the video to get a good look at the back of the plug. I was really surprised to be able to see the coloured wires. I was thinking heat shrink or a rubber boot so I think I would add in Nev Wells tip of using self amalgamating tape too.
Agreed Nev is 100% on that one. It's pretty well sheltered behind the screen but aye it seems unfinished almost so am gonny go back sort that out. Drilling holes will allow it to breathe but yes in this climate its just begging for water ingress 👍
Excellent idea. Very useful information. I live in Australia at the moment and so far have not had this problem, the air is usually quite dry, although it can be very humid at times. Out here i tend to avoid riding in the wet as there is more than enough dry days to go round. So far so good but a great tip for a rainy day. Cheers Lester.
Interesting challenge. I keep a small stock of squishy o ring material for such eventualities and it works a treat. The silica gell bag is always a good idea so it will be interesting to see how this works out for the Enfield. I used to be a diver years ago so can empathise with the comparatives. I used to spit in the mask swill it about then wash it in sea water, always worked well. Not a practical solution for land locked problems 😁.
Haha cheers Les aye always handy to keep something like it lying around. I'm hoping this does the job because ur right. I'm not about yo start opening it up for the ol spit and shine lol. Thanks for watching 👍
just waiting to see if it fixes your clocks before i open mine and maybe void the warranty, let us know if you have sorted the problem 👍 but then again, the way i look at my bought new 2021 Himalayan is like this..it cost me a lot less than an out of warranty second hand main brand adventure bike..I havent seen on google etc.. of any engines or gearbox failures 👍..maybe i need to do this as my clocks have been fogging like yours from 5 days old and plenty of others too 😒 the dealer wont even look to see if the clocks were opened anyway if they dont fail 😂😁 brill info vid and thanks for that 👍😀 I live 25 miles from the Scottish Border..really hope to meet you on the road and loving your channel 😍
The logic to this mod is really good👍.. 🤞🤞hope it works mine doznt mist as bad as some others do ...i think ive been lucky with 2019 model no stalling.. no rear caliper issues.. (changed pads mind) relays...etc hope it continues🤞...atb
Thanks. Aye this should do the job for a while assuming it's sealed tight enough. It's been a few days since I did this. So far so good 👍 ur Himmy should be fine I'm sure it's well looked after
Interesting thanks for the info Martin , i hope Enfield are making a note of this problem and sort it soon , if the bike is to be sold in Europe it needs to be water tight where required ... especially in the UK !
Hybrid I hope they see enough of these videos and comments on forums that they fix the issue. Doesn't seem to be a problem for everyone but it's common enough 👍
Hi I found that the small round material stickers on the back of the unit cover over holes, which you can feel if you press hard on the patches. As your making it more watertight it might be better to cover these with Ducktape. Stopping any moisture getting in. Cheers Mark
Very interesting video. This seems to be a general problem with the Himalayan with the misting up of the dials. Hopefully your effort will be successful.
@@WeeJaunt I complained about mine misting up, and was informed I didn't know what I was talking about and that condensation was "normal". Enfield just burying their head in the sand and trying to pretend there's no problem.
@@nastybirdy wow that's amazing eh. If these bikes have a common fault it's guages fogging. Maybe dealers just don't want to know. Good news is its easy to fix like most things on the bike 👍
Hi there, I had the same problem and I took mine apart and put some silica packs in there but mine is an LCD screen but it doesn't have a rubber gasket between the case at all, it does have four holes at the back to breath , do you think it would harm it to seal the case as when it rains I'm sure water is getting in or do the manufacturers not put a seal there for a reason i.e heat getting out , I want to seal it but also don't want to damage it , any advice would be much appreciated 👍🏼
thanks for the subtitles! get a used BS4 in the next few days. and hope that the instruments do not have this problem. but if it does, I'll look at the solution again. until then do you have the experience whether it worked ?! Greetings from the black Forest!
Hello Bombadil thanks mate. I read your other comments on the subtitles thanks for the feedback. Exciting that you are getting a Himalayan. It's possible your bike does not have this problem and if it does its probably minor. I believe this solution will work. Its been OK for the last 3 days but if that changes I will let you know. You can ignore the condensation if it doesn't bother you. I probably would have ignored it if I hadn't been asked to make a video about it lol 👍 good luck with the new bike.
I’ve got the royal Enfield classic military green the speedo mists up on that when I go out on it, clears after a while then fogs up again when I go out seems like it’s common
I'm the same Neil it comes and goes. Tbh it's not something that ever really bothered me but it was mentioned to me on several occasions so I figured I'd make a video about trying to fix it 👍 thanks mate
Thanks for this vídeo! After 5 months, how is the actual status of this issue on your bike? Here (Brazil) the condensation is very commom, and the dealers also consider it "normal".
Interesting, mine does it on damp days. Wonder about using Rain X on the inside. Its only mildy annoying as I can only just read the LCD without my reading glasses on. Ho ho. Cheers from NZ.
Let us know if it worked. I have the same problem living in Queensland, Australia from the humidity in the air. Dial does clear when riding. Dealer laughed at me when I mentioned at the service… guess this is a common problem!!!
I am waiting for new instruments for my 2021 Himalayan. If it is a hot day, I have moisture in the instrument's for an hour. Later it will disappeare. Harley Davidson has the same problems since many years with the consoles which are sitting on the tank. This is the reason why I had buy a Harley with digital instruments.
Hey, great little video, not got my Himalayan yet, but been researching all the little bits and bobs, and your channel comes up over and over. Has been invaluable. So… 5-6 weeks later… how did the fix work out?
My brand new Himalayan instrument cluster is so badly fogged you cants read the lcd display, never been out in the rain. I just assumed the problem lies in a manufacturing fault where the units are assembled in a humid environment sealing the moisture in
That's my thought exactly.. I imagine these units are assembled in India or China or wherever and the eventual condition of your gauges depends on the weather at the time 🤷♂️ I think you are right 👍
Strange how in the "Good old days" the analogue clocks on a bike never seemed to fog up... I have only ever experienced issues with condensation on bikes that had digital instrument consoles. How much of a problem this may be for you largely depends on the level of humidity in the atmosphere where the instrument pod was assembled. While it is possible to replace the air in the instrument pod with an inert gas that contains no water this is not the easiest solution. Simply getting a small silica gel pack in there seems to solve the problem for most people. I have only ever noticed fogging of the instruments on my Himalayan when riding on very hot sunny days, which is something of a rarity for me. For the rest of the time the problem has never arisen so I've not bothered to address the issue so far.
That's it Henry.. Funny how things just worked lol.. The fogging issue hasn't been major for me either but its fixed now and hopefully for good. I gave you a shout out in this video because I thought you had put me onto the idea of the fishing pole elastic lol 😂 Thanks again mate.
My missus is a diving instructor too, so I fully understand the logic of the fix you performed. However, I took a different approach with my 2019 Euro 4 model, that of ventilation. I read somewhere that there are stickers on the back of the instrument cluster covering up holes. Sure enough, I found four plain black round stickers which, when removed, exposed four holes about 6-7mm dia. It worked! No condensation at all since then.
Keep the videos coming, very informative.
Good little fix that! The colour change in the silica gel is caused by a small amout of cobalt present. In its normal state the arrangement of ligands is tetrahedral and is blue but as it absorbs water it turns octahedral and pink.
Ah well there you go. I didn't know the exact science David so thanks for the input. I'm like ah.. Dry blue.. Wet pink lol 😂
Very helpful thank you - my new 411 Himalayan is my 1st bike in 14 years it's wonderful and perfect for my needs.
Thank you so much, it's been driving me mad. I will try your solution!
I'll be trying the gasket and silica pack on mine, thanks for the tip... incidentally I've got a seat Leon with LED headlights both sporting 100g silica packs in the backs of them and that keeps the fogging under control in those 👌🏻
The silica bags out of a lateral flow test kit work perfectly 😃👍🏻
Haha brilliant thanks. I never thought of that 👍
Excellent video, the prospect of drilling holes gave me cold sweats!
Haha aye. I wanted to try to fix it without getting the drill out lol. Thanks for watching mate 👍
Mine had condensation in it. Took it apart and not even the foam gasket was there. Followed your advice and fingers crossed. Thanks for the video.
Excellent little video!
Hollow o-ring cord? That's amazing! My only concern with your fix is that the foam is still there. If leaky foam is the problem, the moisture passage still exists, albeit more restricted by the pressure from the cord. If you don't want to remove the foam, the above suggestion of silicone grease would help. I recommend really working it into the foam to fill passages. Filling up the electrical contact bay with grease before replugging could help eliminate that potential entrance.
I really like how you did so many things at once to stop the problem. Wonderful and thorough. If my own cluster fogs, I'll keep your methods in mind. Thank you!
Thanks Andrew...don't even remember where I got that rubber it's been lying around with my dive gear for years lol. So far far so good it's been 3 days and the console is crystal clear so far so good 👍
Yep. I've got exactly this problem. Hopefully I won't have, when I follow your process.
Nice one.
Hi mate. Aye Iv had no issues since I fixed it 👍
Thanks for the solution, works really well. I only found out its very hard to push the buttons on the dash because of the increased height due to the elastic. I 'extended' the plastic sticks which push the buttons and now they are working better than before.
Interesting thanks. Must try that.
Good one…them buttons are hard on the fingertips
Nice, I used to put washing up liquid on the inside of my visor to stop the misting up. Will have a go at this, thanks Martin
Hope it works John. I think it should eh.
@@WeeJaunt It is a sensible solution, got to do
@@johnpawson7400 well worst case scenario the gauges will be sparkling lol
I agree I wouldn't want to drill holes in the instrument housing. I am in the North of England, and I definitely wouldn't do it where you are when you ride in bad weather as much as you do. I tried pausing the video to get a good look at the back of the plug. I was really surprised to be able to see the coloured wires. I was thinking heat shrink or a rubber boot so I think I would add in Nev Wells tip of using self amalgamating tape too.
Agreed Nev is 100% on that one. It's pretty well sheltered behind the screen but aye it seems unfinished almost so am gonny go back sort that out. Drilling holes will allow it to breathe but yes in this climate its just begging for water ingress 👍
Excellent idea. Very useful information. I live in Australia at the moment and so far have not had this problem, the air is usually quite dry, although it can be very humid at times. Out here i tend to avoid riding in the wet as there is more than enough dry days to go round. So far so good but a great tip for a rainy day. Cheers Lester.
Cheers Lester.. Here's to many more dry days for you mate 👍
Verry verry good job sir me gujrat India se meter repair vala
Interesting challenge. I keep a small stock of squishy o ring material for such eventualities and it works a treat. The silica gell bag is always a good idea so it will be interesting to see how this works out for the Enfield.
I used to be a diver years ago so can empathise with the comparatives. I used to spit in the mask swill it about then wash it in sea water, always worked well. Not a practical solution for land locked problems 😁.
Haha cheers Les aye always handy to keep something like it lying around. I'm hoping this does the job because ur right. I'm not about yo start opening it up for the ol spit and shine lol. Thanks for watching 👍
just waiting to see if it fixes your clocks before i open mine and maybe void the warranty, let us know if you have sorted the problem 👍
but then again, the way i look at my bought new 2021 Himalayan is like this..it cost me a lot less than an out of warranty second hand main brand adventure bike..I havent seen on google etc.. of any engines or gearbox failures 👍..maybe i need to do this as my clocks have been fogging like yours from 5 days old and plenty of others too 😒
the dealer wont even look to see if the clocks were opened anyway if they dont fail 😂😁
brill info vid and thanks for that 👍😀
I live 25 miles from the Scottish Border..really hope to meet you on the road and loving your channel 😍
Haha thanks David aye no doubt bump into you someday on the roads. I'm hard to miss lol 👍
Thanks Martin, great tip and very well explained.
Thanks Pete hope it's useful mate. Thanks for watching 👍
The logic to this mod is really good👍.. 🤞🤞hope it works mine doznt mist as bad as some others do ...i think ive been lucky with 2019 model no stalling.. no rear caliper issues.. (changed pads mind) relays...etc hope it continues🤞...atb
Thanks. Aye this should do the job for a while assuming it's sealed tight enough. It's been a few days since I did this. So far so good 👍 ur Himmy should be fine I'm sure it's well looked after
Thanks f for a cracking video, especially the links. 👍
Interesting thanks for the info Martin , i hope Enfield are making a note of this problem and sort it soon , if the bike is to be sold
in Europe it needs to be water tight where required ... especially in the UK !
If they make them to survive an Indian monsoon they should be fine everywhere
It doesn't seem to be an issue for everybody Iain. Just your luck I recon. Hopefully its fixed now 👍 thanks for watching mate.
Hybrid I hope they see enough of these videos and comments on forums that they fix the issue. Doesn't seem to be a problem for everyone but it's common enough 👍
great video. works really well
Thank you I'm glad you liked it. It has worked perfectly well 👍
Hi I found that the small round material stickers on the back of the unit cover over holes, which you can feel if you press hard on the patches. As your making it more watertight it might be better to cover these with Ducktape. Stopping any moisture getting in. Cheers Mark
Great advice. Yes I saw them but didn't want to pull them off incase I made it worse. Good idea to put tape over them 👍 thanks Mark.
Pull them off and the clocks will breath better. Solved the problem on my GT.@@WeeJaunt
Very interesting video. This seems to be a general problem with the Himalayan with the misting up of the dials. Hopefully your effort will be successful.
Thanks John yep it's fairly common. More than a week now and no issues so far 👍
@@WeeJaunt I complained about mine misting up, and was informed I didn't know what I was talking about and that condensation was "normal". Enfield just burying their head in the sand and trying to pretend there's no problem.
@@nastybirdy wow that's amazing eh. If these bikes have a common fault it's guages fogging. Maybe dealers just don't want to know. Good news is its easy to fix like most things on the bike 👍
Fantastic idea. Thanks
Hi there, I had the same problem and I took mine apart and put some silica packs in there but mine is an LCD screen but it doesn't have a rubber gasket between the case at all, it does have four holes at the back to breath , do you think it would harm it to seal the case as when it rains I'm sure water is getting in or do the manufacturers not put a seal there for a reason i.e heat getting out , I want to seal it but also don't want to damage it , any advice would be much appreciated 👍🏼
Great video. Only have one issue, I picked up a Scottish accent. 🙂
Yes Sir I'm as Scottish as a big Scottish thing on a Scottish day 👍 thanks for watching
A smear of silicone grease on your new o ring would help seal perfectly, yet still allow it to be taken apart easily
Great advice Brian thats the ticket 👍
thanks for the subtitles! get a used BS4 in the next few days. and hope that the instruments do not have this problem.
but if it does, I'll look at the solution again. until then do you have the experience whether it worked ?!
Greetings from the black Forest!
Hello Bombadil thanks mate. I read your other comments on the subtitles thanks for the feedback. Exciting that you are getting a Himalayan. It's possible your bike does not have this problem and if it does its probably minor. I believe this solution will work. Its been OK for the last 3 days but if that changes I will let you know. You can ignore the condensation if it doesn't bother you. I probably would have ignored it if I hadn't been asked to make a video about it lol 👍 good luck with the new bike.
@@WeeJaunt thank you very much! 👍
Thank you!
I’ve got the royal Enfield classic military green the speedo mists up on that when I go out on it, clears after a while then fogs up again when I go out seems like it’s common
I'm the same Neil it comes and goes. Tbh it's not something that ever really bothered me but it was mentioned to me on several occasions so I figured I'd make a video about trying to fix it 👍 thanks mate
I drilled three very small holes at the lowest point in the housing all good now.
Good to know Steve.. If my method fails I will no doubt end up doing the same thing 😂 thanks mate 👍
Did the combinations of fixes actually cure the problem ?
Do you know if the classic 350 has the same problem? Now I’ve seen how you solve it I’ll do the same ?
Thanks for this vídeo! After 5 months, how is the actual status of this issue on your bike? Here (Brazil) the condensation is very commom, and the dealers also consider it "normal".
So far Iv had no further issues with fogging. We don't have alot of humidity here in Scotland. Plenty of rain though.
Interesting, mine does it on damp days. Wonder about using Rain X on the inside. Its only mildy annoying as I can only just read the LCD without my reading glasses on. Ho ho. Cheers from NZ.
Thanks Simon yep it's not a big issue right enough. Easy fixed though 👍 Thanks for watching mate.
Let us know if it worked. I have the same problem living in Queensland, Australia from the humidity in the air. Dial does clear when riding. Dealer laughed at me when I mentioned at the service… guess this is a common problem!!!
So far so good mate.. I will keep an eye on it. I think Iv fixed it but let's see. Aye its a common problem right enough 👍
I am waiting for new instruments for my 2021 Himalayan. If it is a hot day, I have moisture in the instrument's for an hour. Later it will disappeare. Harley Davidson has the same problems since many years with the consoles which are sitting on the tank. This is the reason why I had buy a Harley with digital instruments.
Thanks Marina.. The console seems to be fine now since I did this repair. I'm hoping that RE will sort this issue on future bikes. 👍 Thanks again mate
Hey, great little video, not got my Himalayan yet, but been researching all the little bits and bobs, and your channel comes up over and over. Has been invaluable.
So… 5-6 weeks later… how did the fix work out?
Hi Neil thanks mate I really appreciate it. The fogging has cleared up completely mate it's been 100 crystal clear since 👍
@@WeeJaunt Well then... I wonder whose tutorial on how to avoid condensation I'll be copying... ;)
Great video and thanks again :)
@@neilgooge thanks Neil
My brand new Himalayan instrument cluster is so badly fogged you cants read the lcd display, never been out in the rain. I just assumed the problem lies in a manufacturing fault where the units are assembled in a humid environment sealing the moisture in
That's my thought exactly.. I imagine these units are assembled in India or China or wherever and the eventual condition of your gauges depends on the weather at the time 🤷♂️ I think you are right 👍
Had a BMW R80 had the same issue so bored a couple holes underneath result no condensation☂️
Brilliant Gerry it seems to br the solution for most people to be honest. I'm glad it worked mate 👍
The same on Harley-Davidson
Cant believe it, my week old himmy has this problem. I may look at myself rather than the dealer. We shall see.
Silicone sealant takes a bit of practice to get right. Read the instructions.
Strange how in the "Good old days" the analogue clocks on a bike never seemed to fog up...
I have only ever experienced issues with condensation on bikes that had digital instrument consoles.
How much of a problem this may be for you largely depends on the level of humidity in the atmosphere where the instrument pod was assembled.
While it is possible to replace the air in the instrument pod with an inert gas that contains no water this is not the easiest solution. Simply getting a small silica gel pack in there seems to solve the problem for most people.
I have only ever noticed fogging of the instruments on my Himalayan when riding on very hot sunny days, which is something of a rarity for me. For the rest of the time the problem has never arisen so I've not bothered to address the issue so far.
That's it Henry.. Funny how things just worked lol.. The fogging issue hasn't been major for me either but its fixed now and hopefully for good. I gave you a shout out in this video because I thought you had put me onto the idea of the fishing pole elastic lol 😂 Thanks again mate.
my theory is its caused by the heat from the electronics and internal lighting. When its warm inside and cool outside moisture condenses on the glass.
I expect my local RE dealership to repair this for free.
If its in warranty they absolutely should. I should have mentioned that in the videos. Thanks Rob 👍