As a Christian I want to say thank you for presenting both sides of the conflicts being without, both lionizing and vilifying. 😊 I can't wait for the next episodes. I've been listening since episode 1 of The Reformation series. God bless.
I'm impressed on several levels. And, as an American, what I learned of that whole era in the United Kingdom (United being a euphemism to say the least), was hugely abbreviated.
The United part came well after this period. Furthermore, this was the period of civil war, so it's pretty tough to call it United at that time. Try not to get the present confused with the past, or the past of the past. For sure a lot of those old faults and fissures are still there to some degree, but time and other events have worn and eroded them to some degree. What I find fascinating is how much the religious tensions they overlapped with the political have cooled so significantly as to have all but solidified. There's almost not such thing as the Catholic and protestant divide anymore, at least not in terms of a hot war and changing borders at least, for the UK or internationally. As I like to occasionally remind people when necessary, those battles were lost. You'll more than occasionally find traditionalist minded folks, especially Catholics, still trying to theologically stuff the political cat back into Pandora's bag. Curiously, weirdly, the protestant reformation is still happening in a way, but it's purely political, particularly in the US (although there's definitely parallels to some degree in UK and in Europe). Note how many people are in effect anti government, despite the liberals systems of government implemented in those eras to compliment or replace monarchy. So that's something really weird that I've not really heard anyone analyze religiously or politically today. For example, consider this, every protester a protestant? Is everyone that appeals to the order of established tradition and institutions a modern "royalist" or "papist" of the system(s)? I sympathize with the people of that era for how confusing things must've been at times, and sometimes ours aren't any clearer. Do we stick with the order we have, or do we let the blood flow, wipe it all away, and hope whatever comes after it is somehow better and not eerily similar? I don't know the answers, at least I don't think so. Anyway, sorry, I just found the phrasing of your comment peculiar as an American commenting on UK political unity. It's tenuous for sure, everything is, but the UK in its present political form is almost as old as the US - another place with tenuous political unity. That cat just doesn't seem to want to stay in the bag lol. I hope relative peace can be maintained for all our sales and the sales of our descendants. A lot of people fought, thought, and died to give us all that we have today. Weight not all be so lucky to have something better come about after risking near total collapse. All the reasons to fight seem so clear until the fighting starts and drags for years or decades, then people wonder why the killing is so senseless and needless. Thankfully the religious wars ran out of steam and left us with ideals such as pluralism - and ideal that a lot of people today want to discard. Anyway, just some thoughts, thanks for exercising it.
Thank you I have already study all this but you revised and had more details I surely encourage others to lesson at all the episodes One to keep you very busy it be made episodes on the Jews that a very long and truth all the world persecution and more
I’m glad I found this channel. I love the presentation. It’s easy to follow and your story telling voice is a welcome contrast to the very monotone presentations that are usual for the history genre.
Wow, I just discovered your channel today and am watching all the videos. So well researched and presented. Thank you so much. Please please do a series on Empress Matilda of England/France, that would make such a great story. Keep up the great work :)
@@evaschubert1 I second that. Also, have you heard of the four sisters, daughters of the Count of Provence, who became queens of England (Henry III), France (Louis IX) Sicily, and Germany? There is an excellent book about them by Nancy Goldstone (Four Queens: The Provencal sisters who ruled Europe). It's one of those episodes from history that seems stranger than fiction. Another example is Queen Joanna of Naples, what a fascinating life, I cannot believe this story is not more well known and hasn't been made into a blockbuster film or tv series like the Borgias. She was accused of the murder of her husband prince Andrew of Hungary and all hell broke loose. She travelled to Avignon (where the papacy was based at the time) and at the age of 23, stood on trial for her life and crown. I look forward to your series on all of these, you have your work cut out for you ;)
@@evaschubert1 thank you, I always look forward to your next episode and series. I’m kidding, you should focus on whatever episode of history interests you the most. Maybe one day I’ll take my own suggestion and make a video series, although I doubt I could bring it to life in the way that you do.
Never a dull moment... watched all your videos.... gripping, colorful, accessible, and enthusiastic. You are a natural. I especially like the way you weave thru different narratives seamlessly and tie it back to the topic. Hope you make a series on either the war of the roses or the hundred years war. More power to you!
Your podcasts are simply incredible You manage to provide so much historical and personal detail and in such an engaging and humane fashion with all the nuances of human emotion that are so often missing from historical podcasts & lectures at the very highest levels. Outstanding work. Keep it up!
Schubert has a clear understanding of the subject matter and can articulate this knowledge to where even middle schoolers can understand it. She's a role model for what teachers in the US could be like, and she's Canadian.
You got it! ... culminating in the we Execution of a King. Tells me ALL I need to know. This Channel may not be an Excellent Monarchial and Catholic Apologetics Channel, but IT IS! 😊 Thank you.
I’m up to King Edward. I think you have missed a lot about the English church. As an active Anglican, I would implore you to investigate Cranmer and the martyrs. They had spiritual concerns as well as political ones. I’ve watched several of your wonderful videos. I hope you remain as sound as I think you are.
I may have binged every available video today, whilst doing housework. It’s really good to join the dots of history through the lens of Christian changes.
Excellent once again. You have a special talent for presenting, and, I assume, for writing as well. You’re a new discovery for me and I’m in fast-learn mode. Very interesting and informative.
Fascinating! You have gotten into my verifiable genealogy but on my father's lineage, most came over before the Civil War, except maybe the Scots came over after. Mom's lineage, came over a little later, Napoleonic Wars. So your presentation is real to me. On dad's line they were called Covenators or Disentors. Looking forward to Episode 5. It is claimed....For those interested in tracing back family genealogy, check into patriotic lineage societies in America.
Really good presentation... thank you. I read an excellent book called Killers of a King which detailed what happened to all those who signed the death warrant once the Monarchy was restored 10 years later...
@@AnselLindner I do have a Patreon which I never use, but am planning to provide better options for wonderful people like you to support the podcast if they wish to. Thank you!
A good characterisation of the Scottish born tryrant Charles Stuart and his son and heir Charles, a closet catholic and french funded future King, who failed to produce a legitimate heir, and Catholic brother James ,father of Mary and Anne , tragically both failing to produce heirs. The Stuarts in fact were a catastrophe for England Wales and Ireland
A few generations back, I have a grandmother that was reputed to be Hugonaught but found that another genealogy that has her as a French Catholic. My family history would have certainly changed this if she was really French Catholic. Maybe the Catholic genealogist changed the relegion. 😄
One thing I think we should take away from these lectures of yours is a sense of humility about positions we hold today. The road to a more perfect church and even a more prefect union is often littered with unintended effects issuing from the causes we create. And this extents even to believing we are already perfect.
The Reformation took off like crazy in Bohemia, but the Catholics won. The satirical song, "The World Turned Upside Down", was written to protest the Puritanical prohibitions against Christmas celebrations. The UK army band played this song when they surrendered at Yorktown.
It's funny. It's a monarchy would behave like decent people? I don't think the Reformation would have ever happened. I don't think most people want to be involved in government. They just want to live their lives. But if the government makes it almost impossible? Then the people have no choice but to get uppity. Lol! I love that word.
Hi, Dear Ms. Schubert, Thanks very much for your time and efforts. I really like listening to your voice all day long! This is a brief intro of George Fox and early Quakers who are concurrent to the era of this episode, th-cam.com/video/s-yOEXEdGrI/w-d-xo.html . Looking forward to the next one!😢
Everyone wanted to push her into marriages, but the family whomever she married into would become very powerful, potentially pushing some out of power. Another challenge was she wasn’t willing to give up power and whomever she married might want to take the reins away from her. Many accused her of having various lovers, too. Anyhow, a lot more to it than a brief message can explain. And though her successor, James I, was a Stuart, he was also a Tutor, descended from Henry VII’s daughter Margaret, who was Henry VIII’s sister, which is why James I was able to become king. In Scotland he was known as James VI.
@@dougcortes6567 thx. I of course knew about the Stuart connection. I was only wondering about her motivation not to produce an heir. I once heard that she didn't produce one because she wanted to get her father back for killing her mother. Don't know if there's any truth in that but it does seem strange she doesn't want an heir - it would have been "easy" for such a powerful lady to get pregnant if she'd really wanted to. But perhaps you are right and she thought she had the problem covered with the Stuarts.
I'm Henry the VIII and I'm the bleedin' Pope !!! Only reason the Catholic Church/Pope didn't give Henry an annulment was that Spain had more people to tithe, more money and a much bigger army.
The Puritans remind me of today's woke progressives. Even though the progressives are generally atheist and anti-religious, I see a lot of parallels between these two groups.
@@Time_Is_Left Both groups established themselves as the morality police, imposing on society what they deemed was acceptable. The Puritans decided that the stained glass, religious artwork had to be destroyed. The woke progressives have attempted to ban and even re-write classic books and movies that were written in a different time. The books of Roald Dahl and many classics were going to be re-written. They took offence at phrases like "broken English" and "fat" in Robinson Crusoe. Every year elite American universities make a list of words that are "problematic" and need to be banned. For anyone who doubts this, look it up. Both groups were/are intolerant of any views that conflicted with their own, and chose silencing and cancellation over dialogue and debate. There are many more parallels but these are just two examples. I was born into a crazy puritanical religious sect and left when I could. So I am very familiar with that mindset and worldview. When I left, Canada was still a liberal country in the classic sense, if you look up the definition for the core values and tenets of liberalism. I have noticed the shift toward something very different, rooted in Marxism, not the live and let live of Liberalism but a more intolerant and authoritarian mindset. The shift from seeing people as individuals, to identity groups, being sorted into boxes with labels. Despite the differences, I cannot help but notice what religious fundamentalists and the progressives of today have. Both groups think themselves beyond reproach, as if their world view is self evident, and anyone who challenges that, past or present, has to go.
@@Time_Is_Left The Puritans saw themselves as more moral and virtuous than the rest of society. They believed their views to be beyond reproach and self evident, and they did not believe in engaging with dissenting views, or with open dialogue and debate. They preferred censorship and silencing instead. All of these same qualities are seen in the progressive left, which is conflated with liberalism but in fact goes against classic liberal tenets, and is rooted in Marxism. For example one of the core values of liberalism is in the sovereign right of the individual, seeing society as made up of individuals who have equalitu under the law and are judged by their character and actions. While progressivism divides society into classes, based on characteristics, with labels on each group. As their name implies, the Puritans believed that it was their duty to purify the society in which they lived. They destroyed the stained glass, religious art and traditions that the English had held dear for centuries. It was not enough for them to have their own freedom of worship and expression, they took it upon themselves to make everyone else adhere to their worldview, There are so many similar examples in recent years with woke/progressive (whatever you want to call this political ideology). Take books and movies. They have attempted to ban or re-write many classic books and movies because of words, phrases, and ideas they don't agree with. Roald Dahl (classic English author of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory) many of his books they tried to re-write. I remember with the book Robinson Crusoe, some of the offending words and phrases were "broken English" and "fat". Rather than let the reader make their own interpretation, as art and literature is subjective, and rather than honour the artist's work and acknowledge that they lived in a differrent time with different values, and that 50 years from now people will look back and be tempted to judge and re-write/censor the art produced today......their impulse, like the Puritans, is to decide what's best for everyone, what everyone should ne exposed to and how they should think and speak. Then there are the elite universities that put out an annual list of words and phrases that should be cancelled. When you look at the list, it is hard to know if it is a joke or they are serious...if they are serious, then they make the Puritans look moderate. I was born into a fundamentalist religious sect, not dissimilar from the Puritans, and left when I could. So I am very familiar with that way of thinking and worldview. At the time I left as a young adult, Canada was what you would consider a truly liberal country, in line with the textbook definition. I have watched as society and institutions have shifted toward progressive neo-marxism. The hardcore progressives I meet in real life and see in the news, in academia, display many of the same qualities as the religious fundamentalists I grew up with. Despite the obvious differences, these two groups have more in common that they would care to admit.
@@marktodd3097 Well said!! I'm sure you could have written much more. You thoroughly answered the question, "Such as?", while solidly supporting your remark on parallels between the two groups.
I certainly did not gloss over it. Katherine stated this in her defence, which I report here. Also, it is obvious that Henry came up with this dubious argument for his own convenience.
@@evaschubert1And he sure picked and chose (or his advisors) which verses of the Bible to bring as a proof text. Totally ignored Deut. 25:5 which describes his OBLIGATION to marry the childless widow of his brother.
As a Christian I want to say thank you for presenting both sides of the conflicts being without, both lionizing and vilifying. 😊 I can't wait for the next episodes. I've been listening since episode 1 of The Reformation series. God bless.
I am so glad you find it to be even-handed. This is something I try hard to deliver.
Me too.
I'm impressed on several levels. And, as an American, what I learned of that whole era in the United Kingdom (United being a euphemism to say the least), was hugely abbreviated.
The United part came well after this period. Furthermore, this was the period of civil war, so it's pretty tough to call it United at that time. Try not to get the present confused with the past, or the past of the past. For sure a lot of those old faults and fissures are still there to some degree, but time and other events have worn and eroded them to some degree. What I find fascinating is how much the religious tensions they overlapped with the political have cooled so significantly as to have all but solidified. There's almost not such thing as the Catholic and protestant divide anymore, at least not in terms of a hot war and changing borders at least, for the UK or internationally. As I like to occasionally remind people when necessary, those battles were lost. You'll more than occasionally find traditionalist minded folks, especially Catholics, still trying to theologically stuff the political cat back into Pandora's bag. Curiously, weirdly, the protestant reformation is still happening in a way, but it's purely political, particularly in the US (although there's definitely parallels to some degree in UK and in Europe). Note how many people are in effect anti government, despite the liberals systems of government implemented in those eras to compliment or replace monarchy. So that's something really weird that I've not really heard anyone analyze religiously or politically today. For example, consider this, every protester a protestant? Is everyone that appeals to the order of established tradition and institutions a modern "royalist" or "papist" of the system(s)? I sympathize with the people of that era for how confusing things must've been at times, and sometimes ours aren't any clearer. Do we stick with the order we have, or do we let the blood flow, wipe it all away, and hope whatever comes after it is somehow better and not eerily similar? I don't know the answers, at least I don't think so. Anyway, sorry, I just found the phrasing of your comment peculiar as an American commenting on UK political unity. It's tenuous for sure, everything is, but the UK in its present political form is almost as old as the US - another place with tenuous political unity. That cat just doesn't seem to want to stay in the bag lol. I hope relative peace can be maintained for all our sales and the sales of our descendants. A lot of people fought, thought, and died to give us all that we have today. Weight not all be so lucky to have something better come about after risking near total collapse. All the reasons to fight seem so clear until the fighting starts and drags for years or decades, then people wonder why the killing is so senseless and needless. Thankfully the religious wars ran out of steam and left us with ideals such as pluralism - and ideal that a lot of people today want to discard. Anyway, just some thoughts, thanks for exercising it.
I'm hooked! So knowledgeable, but presented clearly and logically. You've put a lot of work into these.
Thank you. Weeks and even months of research go into the preparation of these episodes
Thank you I have already study all this but you revised and had more details I surely encourage others to lesson at all the episodes
One to keep you very busy it be made episodes on the Jews that a very long and truth all the world persecution and more
I'm late to the party. This podcast has got me hooked. Very well done and very informative.
@@mlicciardello7884 Thanks for stopping by! 😊
Thank you! Connecting lots of dots for me.
I’m glad I found this channel. I love the presentation. It’s easy to follow and your story telling voice is a welcome contrast to the very monotone presentations that are usual for the history genre.
Yes. Monotone is death to the audience and a total waste of time. 😅
Wow, I just discovered your channel today and am watching all the videos. So well researched and presented. Thank you so much. Please please do a series on Empress Matilda of England/France, that would make such a great story. Keep up the great work :)
@@jamiebell4604 thank you very much for this comment . That is an excellent suggestion 😊
@@evaschubert1 I second that. Also, have you heard of the four sisters, daughters of the Count of Provence, who became queens of England (Henry III), France (Louis IX) Sicily, and Germany? There is an excellent book about them by Nancy Goldstone (Four Queens: The Provencal sisters who ruled Europe). It's one of those episodes from history that seems stranger than fiction.
Another example is Queen Joanna of Naples, what a fascinating life, I cannot believe this story is not more well known and hasn't been made into a blockbuster film or tv series like the Borgias. She was accused of the murder of her husband prince Andrew of Hungary and all hell broke loose. She travelled to Avignon (where the papacy was based at the time) and at the age of 23, stood on trial for her life and crown.
I look forward to your series on all of these, you have your work cut out for you ;)
@@marktodd3097this definitely sounds like a story worth chasing down . Thank you 😊
@@evaschubert1 thank you, I always look forward to your next episode and series. I’m kidding, you should focus on whatever episode of history interests you the most. Maybe one day I’ll take my own suggestion and make a video series, although I doubt I could bring it to life in the way that you do.
@@marktodd3097 well as a history nerd I am always interested in suggestions about new people and great stories which I may or may not know 😉
Great storytelling.
Please keep these coming. Your historical analysis, whatever the topic is fresh and exciting. 🙏🏻💪🥰
Never a dull moment... watched all your videos.... gripping, colorful, accessible, and enthusiastic. You are a natural. I especially like the way you weave thru different narratives seamlessly and tie it back to the topic. Hope you make a series on either the war of the roses or the hundred years war. More power to you!
Thank you for your generous comment.
Great series. You’re amazing
@@chessmaster3225 so glad you are enjoying it!
@@evaschubert1 you make history exciting!
These are absolutely wonderful. thank you.
Thank you. You have revived church history lectures for me from my distant past. Your very good at making it simple and tying things together.
Thank you for this comment. 😊
Thank you for explaining history so clearly! You paint a picture, giving us a sense of how and why things happened the way they did. Thank you! 💝
@@tamaratyler7786 thanks for letting me know. I appreciate it!
Brilliant! She’s just an outstanding lecturer.
Your podcasts are simply incredible You manage to provide so much historical and personal detail and in such an engaging and humane fashion with all the nuances of human emotion that are so often missing from historical podcasts & lectures at the very highest levels. Outstanding work. Keep it up!
Thank you Martin. I really appreciate your kind comment.
Schubert has a clear understanding of the subject matter and can articulate this knowledge to where even middle schoolers can understand it. She's a role model for what teachers in the US could be like, and she's Canadian.
You got it! ... culminating in the we Execution of a King. Tells me ALL I need to know. This Channel may not be an Excellent Monarchial and Catholic Apologetics Channel, but IT IS! 😊 Thank you.
Wonderful and so educational
I’m looking forward to your next episode ❤
I’m up to King Edward. I think you have missed a lot about the English church. As an active Anglican, I would implore you to investigate Cranmer and the martyrs. They had spiritual concerns as well as political ones.
I’ve watched several of your wonderful videos. I hope you remain as sound as I think you are.
They most certainly did. I tried not to repeat material too much which I covered in the Henry VIII series.
@@evaschubert1 so kind of you to reply! I have a lot of catching up to do.
I may have binged every available video today, whilst doing housework. It’s really good to join the dots of history through the lens of Christian changes.
Glad to have made a mundane task more bearable. 😄
Excellent once again. You have a special talent for presenting, and, I assume, for writing as well. You’re a new discovery for me and I’m in fast-learn mode. Very interesting and informative.
I am delighted to hear you are enjoying the podcast.
Fascinating! You have gotten into my verifiable genealogy but on my father's lineage, most came over before the Civil War, except maybe the Scots came over after. Mom's lineage, came over a little later, Napoleonic Wars. So your presentation is real to me. On dad's line they were called Covenators or Disentors. Looking forward to Episode 5. It is claimed....For those interested in tracing back family genealogy, check into patriotic lineage societies in America.
Really good presentation... thank you.
I read an excellent book called Killers of a King which detailed what happened to all those who signed the death warrant once the Monarchy was restored 10 years later...
That is a story I would love to read!
Would love to support your videos. Please set up an Amazon wish list and share in the description or mic and other things.
@@AnselLindner I do have a Patreon which I never use, but am planning to provide better options for wonderful people like you to support the podcast if they wish to. Thank you!
Very good breakdown and presented well.
@@stevenleslie8557 thank you!
A good characterisation of the Scottish born tryrant Charles Stuart and his son and heir Charles, a closet catholic and french funded future King, who failed to produce a legitimate heir, and Catholic brother James ,father of Mary and Anne , tragically both failing to produce heirs. The Stuarts in fact were a catastrophe for England Wales and Ireland
I really like your writing. Do you work alone, or do you have an editor?
I do the research and writing.
Christmas today is not what it used to be. The 12 days of Christmas were 12 days of lawless debauchery, if memory serves.
Lol. I read that as England Kills A Kitten.
I am a Catholic from song line of Catholics.
A few generations back, I have a grandmother that was reputed to be Hugonaught but found that another genealogy that has her as a French Catholic. My family history would have certainly changed this if she was really French Catholic. Maybe the Catholic genealogist changed the relegion. 😄
Magna Carta was in . . .?
1215 a.d.
Reformation? you mean revolution surely...
Both. The one is connected to the other as I argue in this episode
One thing I think we should take away from these lectures of yours is a sense of humility about positions we hold today. The road to a more perfect church and even a more prefect union is often littered with unintended effects issuing from the causes we create. And this extents even to believing we are already perfect.
I could not agree with you more on this point.
I sense the next episode will be like nothing we've seen so far... not in a positive way.
The Reformation took off like crazy in Bohemia, but the Catholics won.
The satirical song, "The World Turned Upside Down", was written to protest the Puritanical prohibitions against Christmas celebrations. The UK army band played this song when they surrendered at Yorktown.
It's funny. It's a monarchy would behave like decent people? I don't think the Reformation would have ever happened. I don't think most people want to be involved in government. They just want to live their lives. But if the government makes it almost impossible? Then the people have no choice but to get uppity. Lol! I love that word.
Hi, Dear Ms. Schubert,
Thanks very much for your time and efforts. I really like listening to your voice all day long!
This is a brief intro of George Fox and early Quakers who are concurrent to the era of this episode, th-cam.com/video/s-yOEXEdGrI/w-d-xo.html .
Looking forward to the next one!😢
Do we know why Elizabeth 1 was prepared to end the Tudor line by not having children?
Everyone wanted to push her into marriages, but the family whomever she married into would become very powerful, potentially pushing some out of power. Another challenge was she wasn’t willing to give up power and whomever she married might want to take the reins away from her. Many accused her of having various lovers, too. Anyhow, a lot more to it than a brief message can explain. And though her successor, James I, was a Stuart, he was also a Tutor, descended from Henry VII’s daughter Margaret, who was Henry VIII’s sister, which is why James I was able to become king. In Scotland he was known as James VI.
@@dougcortes6567 thx. I of course knew about the Stuart connection. I was only wondering about her motivation not to produce an heir. I once heard that she didn't produce one because she wanted to get her father back for killing her mother. Don't know if there's any truth in that but it does seem strange she doesn't want an heir - it would have been "easy" for such a powerful lady to get pregnant if she'd really wanted to. But perhaps you are right and she thought she had the problem covered with the Stuarts.
@@niceperson5962 Elizabeth probably did not want to share power w/ her husband, I think.
Ironic that the only church of England saint, Charles 1st, was Scottish.
Convenience > Conviction, Henry VIII
I'm Henry the VIII and I'm the bleedin' Pope !!! Only reason the Catholic Church/Pope didn't give Henry an annulment was that Spain had more people to tithe, more money and a much bigger army.
Also Charles V was rather fond of his aunt Catherine and his troops had just recently sacked Rome.
@@MS-io6kl Def had more to do with The Holy Roman Emperor!!!
Charles was never King of Ireland...despite what the British say!
... more correctly Protestant Revolt.
Surprising they didn't get rod of the anglican-catholic church after all that mess.
The Puritans remind me of today's woke progressives. Even though the progressives are generally atheist and anti-religious, I see a lot of parallels between these two groups.
Such as?
@@Time_Is_Left Both groups established themselves as the morality police, imposing on society what they deemed was acceptable. The Puritans decided that the stained glass, religious artwork had to be destroyed.
The woke progressives have attempted to ban and even re-write classic books and movies that were written in a different time. The books of Roald Dahl and many classics were going to be re-written. They took offence at phrases like "broken English" and "fat" in Robinson Crusoe.
Every year elite American universities make a list of words that are "problematic" and need to be banned. For anyone who doubts this, look it up.
Both groups were/are intolerant of any views that conflicted with their own, and chose silencing and cancellation over dialogue and debate.
There are many more parallels but these are just two examples. I was born into a crazy puritanical religious sect and left when I could. So I am very familiar with that mindset and worldview. When I left, Canada was still a liberal country in the classic sense, if you look up the definition for the core values and tenets of liberalism. I have noticed the shift toward something very different, rooted in Marxism, not the live and let live of Liberalism but a more intolerant and authoritarian mindset. The shift from seeing people as individuals, to identity groups, being sorted into boxes with labels.
Despite the differences, I cannot help but notice what religious fundamentalists and the progressives of today have. Both groups think themselves beyond reproach, as if their world view is self evident, and anyone who challenges that, past or present, has to go.
@@Time_Is_Left I responded in detail and YT deleted my comment
@@Time_Is_Left The Puritans saw themselves as more moral and virtuous than the rest of society. They believed their views to be beyond reproach and self evident, and they did not believe in engaging with dissenting views, or with open dialogue and debate. They preferred censorship and silencing instead.
All of these same qualities are seen in the progressive left, which is conflated with liberalism but in fact goes against classic liberal tenets, and is rooted in Marxism. For example one of the core values of liberalism is in the sovereign right of the individual, seeing society as made up of individuals who have equalitu under the law and are judged by their character and actions. While progressivism divides society into classes, based on characteristics, with labels on each group.
As their name implies, the Puritans believed that it was their duty to purify the society in which they lived. They destroyed the stained glass, religious art and traditions that the English had held dear for centuries. It was not enough for them to have their own freedom of worship and expression, they took it upon themselves to make everyone else adhere to their worldview,
There are so many similar examples in recent years with woke/progressive (whatever you want to call this political ideology). Take books and movies. They have attempted to ban or re-write many classic books and movies because of words, phrases, and ideas they don't agree with. Roald Dahl (classic English author of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory) many of his books they tried to re-write. I remember with the book Robinson Crusoe, some of the offending words and phrases were "broken English" and "fat".
Rather than let the reader make their own interpretation, as art and literature is subjective, and rather than honour the artist's work and acknowledge that they lived in a differrent time with different values, and that 50 years from now people will look back and be tempted to judge and re-write/censor the art produced today......their impulse, like the Puritans, is to decide what's best for everyone, what everyone should ne exposed to and how they should think and speak.
Then there are the elite universities that put out an annual list of words and phrases that should be cancelled. When you look at the list, it is hard to know if it is a joke or they are serious...if they are serious, then they make the Puritans look moderate.
I was born into a fundamentalist religious sect, not dissimilar from the Puritans, and left when I could. So I am very familiar with that way of thinking and worldview. At the time I left as a young adult, Canada was what you would consider a truly liberal country, in line with the textbook definition. I have watched as society and institutions have shifted toward progressive neo-marxism. The hardcore progressives I meet in real life and see in the news, in academia, display many of the same qualities as the religious fundamentalists I grew up with. Despite the obvious differences, these two groups have more in common that they would care to admit.
@@marktodd3097 Well said!! I'm sure you could have written much more. You thoroughly answered the question, "Such as?", while solidly supporting your remark on parallels between the two groups.
The MARRAIGE was never consumated and is well documented. Why did you choose to gloss over this important fact? You have given a monster a free pass.
I certainly did not gloss over it. Katherine stated this in her defence, which I report here. Also, it is obvious that Henry came up with this dubious argument for his own convenience.
@@evaschubert1And he sure picked and chose (or his advisors) which verses of the Bible to bring as a proof text. Totally ignored Deut. 25:5 which describes his OBLIGATION to marry the childless widow of his brother.
@@miriamgordon1608exactly!
Why didn't Henry Vlll just make his bastard son Blount his legal heir?
@@F4R4D4Y He died as a teenager.