@@djneonreaper4990 It'd be completely normal for his kind (if he were a normal sponge) but seemingly, from his parent's appearance- they have some kind of superficial dimorphism. Like, there are more feminine or masculine hermaphrodites and they identify as such. But they all have the same genitalia/mating methods. So by that logic, he's a small male sided hermaphrodite. So his kind would probably just refer to it as normal attraction. Not sure if all sponge species are like that tho.
@@djneonreaper4990 I mean, he could be into other species romantically, besides- sponges are essentially just lungs but with bones. So what we're basing this on would be his distant and ancient ancestors, his kind would be actively predatory sponges with much better senses and abilities, on top of different descendant biology. ..Makes me wanna make some speculative evolutionary paths for that circumstance...
@@djneonreaper4990 That he's obviously not an actual sponge and thus not limited by their biology so basing him off one when he's so fundamentally different from them wouldn't tell much. It's like making assumptions about human biology based on ancient spined worm-fish.
I agree! My dad likes long hair more than he likes short hair, and in his twenties, he apparently didn't want to leave the house without makeup on. There's no denying that he isn't gay, though, because he's married to my mom. I know that there are more people like that out there who deserve to be believed and heard, rather than just being told this absolutely ridiculous statement, or something along the lines of it: "I'm upset that you don't trust me enough to tell me that you're gay, when you clearly are but you won't stop denying it." It just really triggers me when people don't believe you when you know you're telling the truth. I know that some people are actually in denial, but that doesn't mean everyone is, and thinking that a man is in denial for being gay shouldn't be determined by how effeminate he is, it should be determined by if you hear him say certain things about boys but never girls, or if you see him getting flustered around guys. I doubt anyone actually read this far down. :)
*they were roommates* My history teacher actually did this though, I asked her about Sappho and she said, "her poems were written from a male perspective"
The Loud House is a great example. Lincoln’s best friend, Clyde McBride, has two dads, (one which is a black man like Clyde, and a white dad). So not only are Clyde’s dad’s a great example of the LGBT community and biracial couples. One of Lincoln’s sisters, Luna Loud, is also bisexual and currently is dating a girl named Sam.
@Ultimate Impostor Gundham Tanaka Yes they are but they’re also overbearing of their son, but it’s because they love him so much and want what’s best for him.
Yeah, it’s sad because it was a great show until the quality drop from when the creator left. I think it was because he was accused of doing some really bad personal stuff but idk if he actually did anything bad.
when I was a little younger I watched steven Universe. And I literally didn’t care what their sexualities were. I always did think that ruby and sapphire were married. I didn’t even care about their gender. Repeat after me: CHILDREN DO NOT GIVE A FUKK ABOUT SEXUALITY, WATCHING LGBT CHARACTERS IN TV SHOWS WILL NOT TURN A CHILD LGBT. I am straight. I recently started watching the show again and saw the episode where they got married. i’m so happy for them
Exactly. When I was younger I had assumed that Ruby was a dude because straight was normalized and also they were portrayed more masculine so idk. One of my friends was confused when I addressed Ruby as he/him and told me that they were female. I was just like “oh okay. My mistake then.” And carried on with my life.
Yeah same here I started watching in middle school. To me it didn't make me uncomfortable or ruin the plot so I was fine with it. For the longest time I assumed that ruby was a guy until I saw them get married and she was wearing a wedding dress. I'm also straight.
I started watch s.u when I was like 8y and I don't even know the meaning of the word gay. I just wanted to watch the show and know more about the gems and homewold. Obviously I noticed that ruby and sapphire have a relationship, but I don't give a shit. I spend all day watching theories about the series. I remember seeing the "Pearl is actually Rose" theory and the comments are like "that's impossible" Well look who is impossible now! Sorry I just write whatever came in my mind ;-;
I- thank you- But in all seriousness that’s true though, I mean appearance/behavior/etc doesn’t equal sexual orientation but unfortunately it’s become more of a stereotype than anything and coming from someone who’s LGBTQ+ I’m honestly just disappointed by it, because yeah some gay men might not act super masculine but not all are like that and it’s becoming difficult to find people that understand that 🤦🏾♀️
@@PixelBoye6546 Yeah that's when it gets creepy. Like oh he cleans himself and can cook? He's gay! They don't get how bad that is for all the other men out here to be pigeonholed for not being a barbarian 24/7
Ironic it's also used in reverse Like twitter or showrunners to bow being gay cause crop top or pink so bow show makes him far more gay, judging by how he looks when its convenient
I really liked The Hollow and how it showed Adam being what you would call “the typical straight dude” and being masculine while being gay and not making a big deal out of it. (Also it’s kinda like the thing in Kipo where she likes him, but they go back to being friends again)
@@pushpops724 can't speak for Ally, but personally, the idea was cool, but not greatly executed. The animation is stiff, It's not very funny, it's really predictable, and somehow, at the same time it also manages to feel like it was all improvised last minute because the writers didn't know what to do ( *SPOILER:* it has a weird twist that you see coming from a mile away but it's dumb, and cliché. *END OF SPOILER* ). Also the characters have a very basic personality and arc, and just are overall uninteresting. I even had a hard time remembering who the comment was referring to lol. It's overall "meh". Nothing too offensive, very mediocre lol. That's sadly as much as I can say without spoiling the whole plot. Maybe it just wasn't for me and I can't appreciate it. I also won't say that nobody is allowed to like it; I just wouldn't recommend it to anyone since I only recommend stuff that I love.
Ngl. Bob’s burgers perfected LGBTQ+ representation when it comes to representation in these shows. They normalized it. They didn’t over preached it or made a big deal about it. They just said: “okay, they exist. Anyways on with the story...” it just felt natural. When they revealed that one of the characters is a lesbian, they just had her say that she had a girlfriend who had a snake and that was that. No grand reaction from the characters and no dramatic score playing. Things were normal. That’s how it should be, just make the LGBTQ+ community normal, not something absolutely grand. Bobs burgers makes them as normal human beings.
Not only did Noelle Stevenson explicitly state that none of her characters are straight unless they're explicitly stated to be, but with the f/f and m/m couples in She Ra all being explicit while the m/f couples are just implied, she pulled an uno reverse card on the tablescraps we've been getting all these years where it's usually the other way around, which is just... WOW. Also, thank you for putting Ty Lee and Azula in here, that scene where they "practice" flirting with the implication that they do it frequently lives in my head rent free and no one else is talking about it.
I freaked out when my siblings were watching Kipo and Benson just came out and said "I'm gay". I was so incredibly happy, to be honest. It was so amazing to see the representation and how the show just continued. I absolutely loved it, and never expected it.
I had the same reaction, my brother watched it, he also watched shera with me, and a little while later he was like "SEE I told you he didn't have a crush on Kipo." and proceeded to mock my mom for thinking benson had a crush on kipo. kids dont give a fuck what the characters are, they just want to watch tv
I don’t get how people don’t support asexual/aromantic people, like ok maybe your dumb religion says that liking the same sex is wrong (not saying religion in general is dumb just that if your religion is homophobic it kinda is) but your mad that somebody doesn’t want to kiss anybody?
@@lunasticesky1188 Technically they’re not straight; they’re both bi and are in a hetero relationship. Edit: And I believe that their relationship was confirmed?? I need to rewatch the show lol
yooo when he just said so simply "I'm gay :D" I almost fell out of my chair. whenever someone's gay in a show they always seem to have to make that a huge subplot that drags on and causes Angst, and they usually have to face the awkward straight crushes that wont leave them alone, and very often they lose friends over it. but that was so perfectly handled and wonderful to watch and ughhh my god good job good show I love it too much to translate my feelings into words ;3;
Two examples I want to talk about: Velma from Scooby Doo: Mystery Incorporated. While she has been confirmed as a lesbian for the past few years, there was heavy context that her relationship with Shaggy was a bad case of comp het and that she didn’t start considering it until after their breakup and the mermaid episode. I thought it was refreshing to see a character that didn’t really realize she was gay until later in life, and the show did its best with it. I only wish she actually apologized to Shaggy for treating him badly.
@@LemonnNote I initially did too, but the more I thought about it, her relationship with Shaggy felt forced by design. Like she was trying too hard to be a traditional couple with him and tried to change him too much without ever being satisfied with that.
Since Spongebob is a sea sponge, He's likely not ONLY Asexual, but born without as well, but chooses to go by male pronouns (much like his parent's chose to present as male and female) making him technically a form of Trans Man raised by a Trans couple. And since Nick implied he was gay in the tweet, He's possibly Homoromantic.
Most Sponges are actually hermaphrodites meaning they have both male and female organs. So technically he can be both Male and female if he feels like it and would not be technically wrong. And funny enough same goes with Piccolo from Dragon Ball (Namekian’s are influenced from snails that are hermaphrodite as well.).
@@andrewdiaz3529 Kind of, most of the Namekian names are names related to snails and slugs, Dende is a Japanese word for Snail and Nail is snail without the S. And the name Namek is taken from the Japanese word Namekuji which means Slug. Dragon ball’s author loved to name people after different things or foods, like the saiyan’s with Vegetables or Frieza’s family with Coldness. Namekian’s also have antennae and are hermaphrodite as real life snails and slugs are so there are no male or female Namekian’s or snails since any one of them can lay (or in the case of Namekian’s barf out) eggs.
Once I saw an ad for a webtoon on ig, and I commented "is this gay?" And someone had the audacity to say "why does everything have to be gay nowadays" *as if* the LGBTQ+ community had somehow too much representation in media. Lol wtf.
Bruh what?! LGBTQ still gets so little representation still and there are straight couples in LITERALLY EVERYTHING! It would have been WAY easier for me to come to terms with my sexual orientation if I had had some media exposure as a kid!
@@victormunhozzz nope and before everyone calls me a raging homophobe I'm bisexual now that we got that out of the way I should have worded that differently what I ment was that while yes there is still little lgbtq+ repersention, with shows like steven universe it can feel like its forced to be gay (sorry for the bad spelling I'm only 13 and am very much far behind of literacy)
what I find kind of odd is that generally lgbtq rep in cartoons is limited to two women or girls. Kipo is the only canon male gay character I can name in a children's show
You should try a Netflix show called The Hollow! I won't spoil who it is for you (though you may have some auto guesses if you do decide to check it out), but it does have a canon gay male character. The situation actually ends up similar to how it was for Kipo. It's also a cartoon with cool concepts, I totally recommend it.
@Rose Bud What if it was a restaurant / hotel combo and the shenanigans of all of them trying to run their business(es) together. Plus they could be friends or have drama and stuff. Ps, what medium are you thinking? Book? Show? Comic?
Not the best example, but one of the male leads in Voltron is gay, though everyone's really mad at that rep since his fiance was really hyped up by shitty marketing but actually killed off and replaced with him marrying a background character at the end.
tldr: is the mysoginy that downplays womens capacities painting them as defenseless and never a threat thus making depicting lesbians ~not as bad~ because "after all is kinda hot so let them be"
4:33 true. It’s actually more of smaller step when you realize it. Rebecca Sugar threaten to quit Cartoon Network if she couldn’t have her wedding in and then the creators of She- Ra once again had to threaten the creators to get the kiss scene in at the end. Aurthors episode got sensors too. Its not the tv networks are fine with it all of a sudden. It’s just that they can now push back when they get shut down, without loosing the show.
@@cosmicspacething3474 Not to mention it shared time with setting up turning the multi genocidal diamonds into sob stories. I remember there was a situation where SVTFOE's staff wanted same sex couples in the background, Disney executives complained saying it was a bad idea but, when asked by the show staff why, they dropped the arguement. TO paraphrase a certain youtuber, whilst it's common knowledge that companies do not like complaints from homophobic people, the thing they fear more is for people to lump them into the homophobic crowd.
Thats actually a good idea for a villain's redemtion arch, starting off misgendering a cast member and (but not pausing for it, as the villain shouldn't be corrected after the first time) as the villain joins their team, uses the correct pronoun (montages of them learing are unnecessary) and perhaps that protag remarking during a battle or somth that they used the right pronoun (perferably not the main character, as villains redeming themselves to the main hero is often annoying, and it's far more interesting to see all cast members gain trust) P.S. Pronouns are a respect thing, so your evil villain thing doesn't work, because usually villains respect their adversaries
*gasp* Is that why my mom wouldn't let me watch spongebob? *Well that backfired, now she gotta deal with my gay a** * Edit: The hell why does me being gay have 1k likes- Now when people ask me my most liked comment I gotta say this, really guys?
Reginald The one Nah, she’s cool with it, she just didn’t want to expose me to how awful people would be, as in homophobia I’m just annoyingly gay, blasting Little Miss Perfect on a speaker at 2 am-
I feel like bisexuality is something that isn’t represented as much. If it is, it would most likely be “Bisexual character, let’s make them date a person of the same sex immediately.” While there’s no problem with that, being bisexual doesn’t mean that you have to date someone of the same gender to be considered bi. I went years before I actually dated a girl, but I’d know since I was a teen that I was bi, or just interested in whoever I was interested in.
This is so true, and this is why I love Brooklyn 99 so much: Rosa Diaz for exemple *warning minor spoilers* dated 2 guys (even considered marrying one of them) before actually starting to date girls in later seasons. What I also loved about her coming out is that they showed that sometimes bi people are not taken seriously, like Rosa's mom thinking that she'll eventually find the right man and completly push aside the "i'm also into girls" part of her sexuality.
The show ok ko has a bi character who dated a straight character, and later on in the show gets married to another bi character and they make the cutest couple and it's great. They're my favorite characters in the show
Bow from She-Ra took a confirmed transgender girl as a plus one at a party and it’s implied as a date. Had a crush on sea-something (I forget the name just know it has sea in it) who is a boy and ends up dating Glimmer (a girl) at the end of the series.
When I tell you I needed to pause a second to process the fact that a cartoon character got to flat out say out lout casually "I'm gay" and its not during a finale of show, I--. Wow. We really HAVE come a long way.
That’s why I love She-ra and Kipo so much. In She-ra sexuality or gender isn’t even mentioned at all. Double Trouble was recognized by their pronouns (they/them) without even saying it. They never even said they were NB it was just there. In Kipo, it just wasn’t a big deal and I adored that.
Spongebob, to me never felt like a "gay" character; he just seemed like someone sorely determined to bring joy to other people's lives (like Squidward.) Thus, I don't really count him as a symbol of LGBTQ+ representation. However, there are plenty of other positive examples I can list off the top of my head
I will have to agree. I know that at no point in development or at any point after was LGBTQ representation of any kind on the minds of anyone working on the show. Their only priority was just to make a funny cartoon. They never once considered it, or thought of it. I'm all for representation. In fact, I love it when it's done and I will always want more. But Spongebob Squarepants is a show that should always be left out of this conversation.
What i really appreciate about Kipo is that Benson literally said "I'm gay". No "uhh I'm not interested.....", no "i swing the other way", no "i love differently". He used the word gay. I can't even describe how happy i was when he said that
My only problem with the inclusion movement of the lgbtq in cartoons is when it is done badly. Where being gay or lesbian is their only personality and that only part of the character the show focuses on. Those characters should still have a personality besides their sexuality
It's why we're gonna have a long time before asexual, platonic relationships or just health FRIENDSHIPS are gonna be more of a thing. It's always romance and personally, that's the most boring part about being with people.
I find big movies tend to be more guilty of that than cartoons. Feels like they add women and minority characters by following a checklist instead of actually writing characters that happen to be women or minorities. Then you get these flat 1 dimensional cardboard cutout characters that have no value in the story and the produce expect pats on the back for it. Then they go and use women/minorities as a shield to deflect any criticism of their uninspired, low quality writing.
@@IceFireofVoid Yup, expecting people to just eat it up when everybody can see it's pretty bad. Not all rep is good rep, there a difference from they tried and failed like a movie so bad it's good. It's more like them dropping like 50mil+ and the project is still bad yet getting pissed at us for not giving them money
@@massive.nerd.potential However, Angella dies. Like how in a lot of shows one of the people in a same-sex relationship dies. Oh wait Angella’s trapped between dimensions since she’s immortal That’s dark for a kids’ show
@@Nickys_Corner oh wow I never thought of that- okay that's kinda funny. ..the fact that's it really such an uno reverse, bot the fact, that she's trapped there
Everyone is talking about Garnet and Catradora, but no one is talking about thise two gay police officers from Gravity Falls. They are canonically a couple, even Alex Hirch confirmed that. Also, Craig from the Creek...? I think that was the name of this cartoon.
i'm mostly interested in trans representation tbh. as a trans, i feel sad that it's never explicitly stated that any given character is trans imma make a cartoon at some point. one of the main characters is gonna be trans, and he's gonna just be hanging out. and then he's gonna complain about dysphoria. the official main character, who won't know up until that point, will question him. he'll come out, main character will say, "so you wanna be a girl?" and he'll say "no, quite the opposite actually." and then they'll have a little laugh over the confusion and the show will go on.
Same!! As a nonbinary person I really like how they handled Double Trouble in She-Ra and a lot of Stevens fusions like Stevonnie in Steven Universe but I'm also kinda sad there's not more openly trans and nonbinary characters out there
Steampunk Llama when there *are* trans characters, it's rarely mentioned, too! that's frustrating because, in my experience at least, i have to talk about it almost every time i socialize because people can't do their own research and be respectful! i wish it'd be explained nicely sometimes :(
I’m going to make a cartoon when I’m older, the main character will be non-binary (kinda on the spectrum) and another who is demisexual, I’m really excited so I can put a lot of diversity! Not just lgbt+ but race and religions!
@@steampunk-llama as an enby boy i lost my shit in the last season of steven universe. i am horrible with names but saidies partner is enby and i love them so much they are vibing as hell
I didn’t really come out to my friends, for a while I was the only straight friend and now I’ve just started identifying as pansexual without a come-out and they didn’t say anything lmao
Since my friend group is mostly straight guys their reactions to me being bisexual (but heavily leaning to female) were just like “you like girls too? nice.”
Most of my friends are LGBTQ+ and I don’t even come out to them.. as soon as I meet a friend I just tell them I’m Bi and then we just talk and blah blah blah
My favorite case of lgbtq representation in media would have to be snufkin and moomin from Moomin Valley. They managed to not only display healthy character dynamics and a healthy family with both parents being loving and attentive and also encouraging but they also show characters showing types of love and affection that are different than just romantic love. You see two characters that have obviously had more intimate experiences or others that have relationships that are on more of a platonic and strong bond level the show manages to not only subvert many tropes but also subvert a lot of ideas on what it means to love and beloved and watching you dive into that while also having a great style and commentating pattern is really really cool. Keep up all the awesome work we're watching and we really love it. PS. Have you ever seen bedfellows, and what do you think about their relationship or talking about them in the future.
That's funny that you bring that up, because there are several instances of Tove expressing her homosexuality throughout the books and show! For example, Too-Ticky was based off of her girlfriend, Tuulikki. Snufkin was also based on a past lover, but I can remember who it was. I think the most obvious example though of Tove's expression is Thingumy and Bob. They are an inseperable pair who are based around Tove herself and another past lover, which I think is adorable. I'm not sure how true this is, but there is speculation going about how the Groke is a symbol for homophobia among other types of hate and prejudice. I'm sure there are several more ties between the characters and Tove's personal life, but they haven't been revealed. It's sad though, the official website is masking Tove's relationship with Tuulikki and the meanings behind the characters... There are no pronouns used for Tuulikki, she is only referred to once, and she is simply labeled "partner" instead of "girlfriend". Same thing kinda with Thingumy and Bob, they are labeled as twins even though, according to Tove, that isn't even canon
Bro the fact that she ra even introduced a non binary character just proves how amazing it is at the representation part. I think it's literally the first time I've seen a non binary /gender fluid character in a cartoon and I love it.
LGBTQ Info - She-Ra: Princess Of Power Spoiler warning? Lesbian: -Adora and Catra, who are dating -Scorpia and Perfuma, who are dating -Netossa and Spinnerella, who are married -Huntara (this one’s not confirmed I don’t think, but nobody would be surprisedly it’s true) -Scorpia’s mothers, who are shown in a photo of Scorpia as a baby, being held by the two of them Gay: -Falcon, who dated Sea Hawk at one point -George and Lance, who are married and are Bow’s fathers Bisexuals: -Bow and Glimmer, who are dating -Mermista and Sea Hawk, who are dating -Lonnie, Rogelio and Kyle, who are in a poly relationship -Entrapta, who I feel like mentioning is also autistic Transgender: -Jewelstar, who is a transgender male -Perfuma, who is a transgender female -Peekablue, who is an assumed transgender male Non-binary: -Double Trouble Analysis: I fucking love this show (Tell me if I missed anyone :3) (Also, not all of this is is confirmed, but it is implied)
@@AnxietyPossumArt actually, I think you’re right. I thought she was just ace for a long time and then I found out that she was bi so maybe she is both? Idk I couldn’t find a straight answer
to be honest, I wish straight people dating bisexual women/men was normalized and representated in tv shows. a lot of people sometimes think, "but you're a lesbian/gay man, so you can't date that bisexual person, because they date the opposite sex!! that's weird!!" i'm tired of the "nO sTraIGhTs alLOwEd!!" in specific shows, because that's not really diversity; to me, diversity is including ALL sexualities. i just think it'd be nice representation. :')) edit: Sooo, I'm not understanding the people getting pressed at this. Get over yourself?? Lmao what I said shouldn't be a problem. Also, please stop assuming I'm straight, thanks.
That is partially highlighted in the Legend of Korra comics. Korra and Asami who are now a couple, have an interaction with Mako, a straight male who they both dated. He says he was just being awkward because he never had two of his exes date each other before but said he was happy for them and loves them together. So in this case it was a straight man coming to the realization that both of his exes (now friends) are bi and he didn’t have a problem with it and it wasn’t a big deal. I just think that’s cool (:
In the show ok k.o. they literally have a bi character (prof. Venomous) who used to date a straight character and later gets married to another bi character and it's great. I find them to be the cutest lgbt couple in a cartoon
@@icebear1138 that’s literally what’s happening to lgbt characters and poc characters. we need better writing for all characters not just the cis straight white ones (and they’re usually men too)
Someone needs to mention TOTS, a show on disney junior that has a handful of onscreen gay parents and even the reoccurring theme of "all you need to make a family is love" with two main supporting cast members ending up adopting children outside their species
Shera had great couples because they still involved heterosexual couples, Glimmer and Bow. Remember, Just because someone is straight does NOT mean they are not accepting. Your sexuality is YOUR sexuality. Everyone has their own life, own perspective! And be proud of yours! ❤❤
@@CrypticMShadow That could be true, and they'll still be valid and be it'll a great show! I just thought they were heterosexual at first. But of course Its bad to assume.
@Ooohbopbopboppadoohwah absolutely agree! I’m kind of glad I’m not dealing with any of those sites anymore. Twitter seems like the perfect place to go if you love to intentionally misread posts and create a sh**t- show out of nothing and Tumblr is well... Tumblr. I find that kind of mentality pretty much everywhere though, including on TH-cam. Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad we’re getting more positive and healthy LGBT-rep but when people feel the need to go after every person who ships pairings like Bow x Adora and basically call them “evil, disgusting, homophobes who invalidate Adora’s sexuality” (even though the only one who can validate or invalidate a character’s is the actual creator of the show -_-) things are everything but positive and healthy.
For the people who complain that the korrasami was forced, the legend of korra Korra ended in 2014 before same-sex marriage was legal in every state in the US. If they developed their relationship more than they They did, no way would Nick have let those episodes air. that's why I think the legend of korra, along with other series, made a positive change in people. EDIT: I’ve seen comments from people who tell me that the series as adventure time did this better and in parts are right, but as explained in my comment, the legend of Korra came out at a time when representing this very explicitly was difficult so it was obvious that Nick would place limits on the creators of what to show and what not, Instead, in adventure time I began to represent these themes in a year where showing this was more standardized and not to mention the owl house that had no limits to show and that did not show and gave us one of the best LGBTQA+ couples of all animation in general.
@@teacoon6399 The relationship between the two was always there if you look closely at the series, although I will not deny that I would have liked them to show us the evolution of the relationship in a more explicit way, but in any case it is understandable that the creators were afraid of show it explicitly, if you want to see more of the relationship I recommend you read the comics ;)
@@teacoon6399 Book 1: rivals Book 2: friends Book 3: best friends Book 4: fell in love It's perfect, I love all the scenes with both, meeting a person for 3 years and having such a close friendship is already big enough to have a romantic feeling
Also: did you know in equstria girls mlp rarity and applejack (two girls) are hinted at liking each other. They blush, hold hands and just seem very happy around each other and the creators actually ship them!
And in their "main universe"(you know the pony one-) applejack and rainbow dash are hinted to be married (it left for interpretation), Lyra and bonbon are married (it showed in the background of "Big Mac question"(I think that's the name) and the last episode and Scootaloo had her aunts who are married!
Yep, because another term for coming out of the closet for trans people is cracking, though that's more to do with realising you're not cis rather than actively telling others/transitioning
@@nerfcontent9429 maybe because you can literally create any universe and plot situation in an animated series; you aren't stuck trying to create a 'show about nothing' that can be related to by a vast prime-time viewer base. Also, young viewers are usually far more receptive to new ideas than older viewers.
I have decided, when I get older, I'm going to make a cartoon with healthy relationships and plenty of lgbtq+, race and disability rep. The Gen Alpha and Beta kids shouldn't have to grow up in the same world I did, where the parents would turn away and scoff at a fictional LGBT couple.
I liked the ending of paranormal "my boyfreind would love you" Made me laugh. And its perfect because than the audience wouldnt focus on his sexuality the entire movie
Is only one season in but amity's gay Panic is everything to me that is just exactly how I get when I see any girl that I think is super cute which is honestly kind of most of them. Also Luz being though we haven't got to like see it be super confirmed in the show and has been confirmed outside it's definitely going to come up in season 2 and she's always pretty much read like that and dropped enough hints that I didn't need to confirm my new. Also she is just a fantastic character all-around she's easily my favorite in the show. She's extremely relatable and probably has like the best character growth I love her. My other favorite is obviously she ra and not show just makes me cry all throughout season 5 it's so beautiful and gay and sweet and it just makes me so happy that it exist.
Luz is probably bi or pan but there's no way that's a straight girl. And I don't doubt that she'll return Amity's feelings, though the way it is now Luz is playing the role of the oblivious romantic interest. I don't think she's ever been the apple of someone's eye, so atm she probably just assumes that Amity is just a little strange.
asexual and aromantic people need more representation in shows. i only really know two. todd (is that his name?) from bojack horseman, who is asexual. and peridot from steven universe, who is aromantic and asexual.
Isn't peridot in an implied relationship with Lapis? There's even an episode where they go out as a couple and peridot wears a bow tie. I think it involved a wedding of some kind
@@kin-3877 no. she is in no relationship whatsoever. peridot is the aromantic and asexual representation of the show, it was confirmed by maya petersen after the release of the suf episode " in dreams ".
@@kin-3877 dude. they did NOT make them out to be a lesbian couple. just because they lived together doesn't mean they were lesbian. i'm just saying what is pratically canon in the series. what you are saying is not. a former storyboarder snuck "lapidot" scenes into the show without rebecca's consent and was fired for it, and it wasn't even that serious. they never had anything between them. can we just be happy that we finally have an aroace representation in the show? there's very few and we need to represent aroace people. plus, peridot's colour palette is LITERALLY the aromantic flag.
I want to see gender fluid representation but I'm scared that it will depicted as the outdated concept of multiple personality disorder or now known as DID
Read Magnus Chase by Rick Riordan! In the 2nd book of the series they introduce Alex Fierro, who is gender-fluid and transgender and switches between going by he/him and she/her, and is an Einherjar child of Loki. Alex has shape shifting powers and has explained multiple times what it means to be genderfluid, and explained why he/she doesn’t go by they/them, but how some people prefer it. Alex becomes the main love interest for Magnus, who is implied to be Pansexual.
Skulletta Bones Yeah, I don't get how people think being Gender-fluid is having DID or Split personality disorder. I've known gender-fluid people and it has nothing to do with the disorder. People should think of them as who they are, not some disorder
I'm gay, but I couldn't care less about representation. I just ask to be given likeable and well-written characters. And if they happen to be gay, then okay, that's fine. But don't make it define the character. That's stupid. A person recently complimented me for being a gay composer. And while I appreciated that they liked my subpar music, I feel like they probably just liked it because I happen to be gay. People need to be recognized for their personalities and skills. NOT for which person they want to sleep with. I'm all for gay representation if it's not obnoxiously shoved in your face. Otherwise, it makes me feel like an object companies use to appear more woke.
yeah the thing is that i thought i was sick and twisted for being gay, and what made me feel better and actually be able to come out with people i trusted was media that depicted characters in a good light that had similar struggles and feelings than me. representation isnt just lmao gay character fun ig is a way to show that your existence is recognized acknowledged and appreciated enough in order to be explayed in a work of art. you dont need a storyline or a purpose, you dont hear people complaining about how "they had no need to make that character straight". is about bending the normative, about the "gay or normal" or "straight by default unless stated otherwise" not being there. i think you got a really not nice enviroment, and some internalized homophobia you may need to work on. i used to think the same way as you did, surround yourself with people who understand and open your mind :)
@@bandidocavalier How do I have internalized homophobia? I literally said I was gay. Seriously, get off your high horse. lol Don't patronize people for having different viewpoints on certain topics.
@@musicbyalexYT Internalized homophobia, mysoginy, racism etc is when a person from an opressed demographic holds views regarding such demographic that were inculcated by the oppressive view of society over it, you literally dont know what i am talking about and yet you say that i am wrong? You get off your high horse, being gay doesnt means you can have certain stereotypes and concepts just taken away from your head the second you see a person of the same gender and you go "hot'
@kitten cat Not supporting gay people having the right to be presented in media is homophobic, it promotes segregation and takes away the visibility of demographics that are already pretty invisible to the mainstream in the first place. Plus a gay person going against (or not in favor per se) representation is just another talking point for homophobes to go "why are girls kissing on tv not even the gays want this"
also i’m the first ep of kipo when she is trying on clothes, one of the dresses is the colors of the bi flag (idk if she has been confirmed bi or not, but i thought it was a cute detail)
I mean it's okay if parents don't want their children to see certain stuff. That's fine. However I hate it when parent bash on the creators of the show about thing that they probably don't understand. Every child is not your child and you shouldn't try to change media in any way unless it is actually harming people. I mean actually ignoring a person human rights and bringing physical pain to or exploiting someone. In conclusion you can raise your kid in any way as long as you're breaking law. Just don't ruin the lives of other people because you can't 'fathom how corrupting the next generation'. (That last part was obviously sarcastic)
It isn't okay. Law does not equal morality, and hurting your own child is just as wrong as hurting someone else's. Both are human beings and should not be stifled by being born to someone that only wants to control them and force them into their own worldview. :(
@@oghenbread3330 1. I have a feeling you don't understand what I said to a tee 2. Also a majority of our morality is represented by laws. Someone wouldn't put a law into place if they believed no one is being benefitted by it. 3. I'm really sorry if it sounds like I'm trying to argue. I don't want to start an argument but just follow up on your previous statement. You can feel however you want to feel. That's okay. I just wanted to express how annoyed I am with some parents.
@@celestiaseri5946 i mean. Not all laws reflect morality. There are sadly some stuff thats still legal, and exceptions to stuff. Also, an example: USA still allows drawn CP. But only if its art and not an actual real life child. Moral says this wrong, law says it isnt. Not to mention law of consent, it actually differs from state to state, but even if that law of consent permits a sexual relationship, even if its a 17/18 thing, they two arent allowed to legally send nudes, but totally allowed to have sex. Not all laws or moral correct, and many have loopholes with some damningly thin lined.
As someone who is Ace, I actually would find ace representation in media very, very difficult to do right in any sort of normalized way. Sure, a piece of media that puts focus on it as a major theme would be possible. But in 'normalized representation...' Well, it's complicated.
Omg when I was watching Kipo and she and Benson got on the Ferris wheel, I clicked off at first and left it for a few days because I didn’t want to deal with another forced relationship like that. Then when I picked the series up again from that episode and Benson just goes “I’m gay!” I was shocked for a moment before just going “oh that’s cool and unexpected” before continuing the series and loving Benson and Troy as a couple
15:13, do I see...PRIDE FLAGS?! I honestly never expected to see anything lgbtq+ in any cartoon shows, but here we are. I think I, going to give this show a watch. I love me some good representation! 🏳️🌈💖💛💙
They had the opportunity to have Thingumy and Bob be a cannon lesbian couple (The author confirmed that they're supposed to represent her and her girlfriend) and they didn't
@@oscarwilde3670 oh man I totally agree; but I did like the lines they included in S2 about how their love for each other is brighter than any treasure and whatnot... Besides, the original stories didn't lean towards a romantic angle either; some stuff is harder to adapt than others
Drawpinion Dump yeah, also sadly the existence of lgbt+ people is sadly considered a political/religious/controversial topic. So it’s sadly a risk that networks don’t want to take. Understandable, but sad.
My take from this video: Great that we are getting quite a bit of Lesbian representation, but we still have hang ups about gay men. Seriously there no male couples you could have talked about? I mean I can’t think of any and that’s kinda sad.
Truth be told the reason that a lot of people don't realize that there actually is very little representation of "GAY" men the only main gay relationships that are extremely memorable are clyde mcbride's dads from the loud house and Yuri and victor from Yuri on ice
The cops from gravity falls, Waylon Smithers from the simpsons, Craig and Tweak from south park, Greg and Terry from american dad, Angel dust from hazbin hotel, Willows Dad from the owl, the list goes on
One of my friends came out to the whole group as a lesbian but most of us already knew but just pretended like we didn’t. We mainly knew because we noticed that she would frequently talk about lgbtq anime/ shows and ask how we felt about the lgbtq couples. Luckily none of my friends had a negative reaction. Honestly I feel like no one at my school is really homophobic or anything. I mean of course sometimes the some guys would make jokes about being gay but when they actually interacted with people in the lgbtq community they wouldn’t really bring attention to it or anything and if they thought they might of said something offensive they would immediately apologize. I hear stories about some really toxic school environments and feel kind of lucky to go to a school where that isn’t the case. During this quarantine I’ve been left with a lot of time to think and am kind of feeling like I am bi. I have kissed a couple of girls before when I was younger (on the lips) but because I didn’t know what sexual orientation was I didn’t really think much of it.
Aranza Izaguirre Because it was about inhuman creatures locking humans underground and a human escapes the underground to see them. Undertale is about humans locking monsters underground and a human falls down from the surface to the monster world.
I recommended she-ra to my sister and she hated that Catra and Adora got together in the end. Like for her Catra was abusive towards Adora almost throughout the whole series, literally trying to kill her at times. She said that if this were a heterosexual or a het passing relationship, a lot of us would have more qualms with it. She said that when her daughter and her saw the scene, she reiterated that this was not okay because Catra had been too abusive/violent towards Adora.
I just finished the Banana Fish anime and I was so upset with the ending (not gonna spoil) but it only ended that unfortunately because the writer of it was not allowed to keep the relationship
banana fish rlly has the best mlm representation, and the ending is so sad and (even tho i love the ending) it’s kinda disappointing that it ended that way. but u have to keep in mind it was written in the 1980s by a woman ,,,
Is it just me or is anyone else really happy that Benson actually SAID he gay??? Like didn't beat around the bush, straight up said "gay"??? It's just??? So refreshing???
the owl house has amazing wlw rep in my opinion (SPOILERS AHEAD) over season one, we see a girl go from little miss perfect and kind of a bully to befriending the protagonist, to blushing when the protag hugs her, to being nervous about asking her to the dance (canonically her worst fear is being rejected by her) to 'oh! luz! you're here! I mean, of course you're here, this is school, and you go here now. with, uh, me. I've been talking for too long.' also, the protag blushed when a boy winked at her, and then later in the episode she blushed when a girl said 'see you around, cutie' in conclusion watch the owl house it's amazing, even outside of representation
There’s also a little bit of mlm rep in grom as well, in the background you can see two boys dancing together and blushing. It’s not outright stated they like each other but it seems implied :)
Craig of the Creek has two Non-Binary child characters!! Angel and the Secret Keeper. Also Craig’s older cousin Jasmine has a girlfriend, the Witches are dating, two other boys named Raj and Shawn are dating, and Laura (JP’s older sister) is a lesbian :>
You can watch hazbin hotel if you are 18 + the main characters are gay and lesbian you can watch and see yourself like one of them is gay and other couple who is lesbian
As a bisexual girl; personally I want to see more male representation in cartoons. We got a whole army of girl ship's, but our fellow homies are getting left out☹️
Have you watched ok k.o.? Prof. venomous is canonly bisexual and gets married to a pan character at the end and it's great. They're like my favorite lgbt couple because of how cute they are together and great parents to their new family lol
Actually, Spongebob being asexual is LITERALLY a true representation. Sea sponges in real life can produce asexually
If I remember correctly sea sponges are the same as snails/slugs and are all both genders functionally.
@@djneonreaper4990
It'd be completely normal for his kind (if he were a normal sponge) but seemingly, from his parent's appearance- they have some kind of superficial dimorphism. Like, there are more feminine or masculine hermaphrodites and they identify as such. But they all have the same genitalia/mating methods. So by that logic, he's a small male sided hermaphrodite.
So his kind would probably just refer to it as normal attraction. Not sure if all sponge species are like that tho.
@@djneonreaper4990
I mean, he could be into other species romantically, besides- sponges are essentially just lungs but with bones. So what we're basing this on would be his distant and ancient ancestors, his kind would be actively predatory sponges with much better senses and abilities, on top of different descendant biology.
..Makes me wanna make some speculative evolutionary paths for that circumstance...
@@djneonreaper4990
That he's obviously not an actual sponge and thus not limited by their biology so basing him off one when he's so fundamentally different from them wouldn't tell much. It's like making assumptions about human biology based on ancient spined worm-fish.
@@djneonreaper4990
Who said I was trying to contradict anything?
If a man isn't super masculine doesn't mean that he's gay, he's just being himself.
I’m late but, thank you! I’m always assumed a gay male cause I don’t like basketball, baseball, or showing masculinity.
Yepp! He might be gay, but that has nothing to do with being feminine
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I agree! My dad likes long hair more than he likes short hair, and in his twenties, he apparently didn't want to leave the house without makeup on. There's no denying that he isn't gay, though, because he's married to my mom. I know that there are more people like that out there who deserve to be believed and heard, rather than just being told this absolutely ridiculous statement, or something along the lines of it:
"I'm upset that you don't trust me enough to tell me that you're gay, when you clearly are but you won't stop denying it."
It just really triggers me when people don't believe you when you know you're telling the truth. I know that some people are actually in denial, but that doesn't mean everyone is, and thinking that a man is in denial for being gay shouldn't be determined by how effeminate he is, it should be determined by if you hear him say certain things about boys but never girls, or if you see him getting flustered around guys. I doubt anyone actually read this far down. :)
Exactly rice paper exactly
Historians:
*and they were best friends.*
*ho mah gawd they were best friends*
Your pfp-
Bromance
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*they were roommates* My history teacher actually did this though, I asked her about Sappho and she said, "her poems were written from a male perspective"
Glad to see someone else pointing out how the hetero-couples weren't made explicit at the end of She-Ra.
Glimmer and Bow literally to each other the love each other. Pretty explicit to me.
Savannah Simpson neither are heterosexual tho 😼
Seamista is cannon, I will fight you for them!
Steampunk Wilson I love them
@@steampunkwilson7435
Seamista is canon... But...
Polyamory is a thing...
Mermista x Sea Hawk x Bow x Glimmer x Adora x Catra is a thing
The Loud House is a great example. Lincoln’s best friend, Clyde McBride, has two dads, (one which is a black man like Clyde, and a white dad). So not only are Clyde’s dad’s a great example of the LGBT community and biracial couples. One of Lincoln’s sisters, Luna Loud, is also bisexual and currently is dating a girl named Sam.
They continued the relationship?
Kosta Jovanovic As far as I know they’re still together. I hope they are because I think they’re a cute couple.
@@cassandraspoelhof3752 lovely if true
@Ultimate Impostor Gundham Tanaka Yes they are but they’re also overbearing of their son, but it’s because they love him so much and want what’s best for him.
Yeah, it’s sad because it was a great show until the quality drop from when the creator left. I think it was because he was accused of doing some really bad personal stuff but idk if he actually did anything bad.
when I was a little younger I watched steven Universe. And I literally didn’t care what their sexualities were. I always did think that ruby and sapphire were married. I didn’t even care about their gender. Repeat after me: CHILDREN DO NOT GIVE A FUKK ABOUT SEXUALITY, WATCHING LGBT CHARACTERS IN TV SHOWS WILL NOT TURN A CHILD LGBT. I am straight. I recently started watching the show again and saw the episode where they got married. i’m so happy for them
Exactly. When I was younger I had assumed that Ruby was a dude because straight was normalized and also they were portrayed more masculine so idk. One of my friends was confused when I addressed Ruby as he/him and told me that they were female. I was just like “oh okay. My mistake then.” And carried on with my life.
Say it to the people in the back!
Yeah same here I started watching in middle school. To me it didn't make me uncomfortable or ruin the plot so I was fine with it. For the longest time I assumed that ruby was a guy until I saw them get married and she was wearing a wedding dress. I'm also straight.
@@raindrop2417 especially in Russian!
I started watch s.u when I was like 8y and I don't even know the meaning of the word gay. I just wanted to watch the show and know more about the gems and homewold.
Obviously I noticed that ruby and sapphire have a relationship, but I don't give a shit. I spend all day watching theories about the series. I remember seeing the "Pearl is actually Rose" theory and the comments are like "that's impossible"
Well look who is impossible now!
Sorry I just write whatever came in my mind ;-;
*a male Character not acting super masculine*
People: He is gay
Creator: No. He is nothing.
People: Okay, He is gay.
I- thank you-
But in all seriousness that’s true though, I mean appearance/behavior/etc doesn’t equal sexual orientation but unfortunately it’s become more of a stereotype than anything and coming from someone who’s LGBTQ+ I’m honestly just disappointed by it, because yeah some gay men might not act super masculine but not all are like that and it’s becoming difficult to find people that understand that 🤦🏾♀️
@@PixelBoye6546 Yeah.
@@PixelBoye6546 Yeah that's when it gets creepy. Like oh he cleans himself and can cook? He's gay! They don't get how bad that is for all the other men out here to be pigeonholed for not being a barbarian 24/7
This kinda of happened with shun from saint seiya
Ironic it's also used in reverse
Like twitter or showrunners to bow being gay cause crop top or pink so bow show makes him far more gay, judging by how he looks when its convenient
Thank you for acknowledging asexuality as part of the lgbtqa+ community. That opinion is sadly not as agreed upon as it should be.
Ace rights, babey!!
Wait whaaaaaaat?? !? ! It's not?
It's definitely a part of the LGBTQA+
@@gematoledo9226 Thank you for saying so!
Sadly, there are people in the LGBT community who think we don't belong. It's frustrating.
Wait, do they think that, just becouse its no interest in the act itself, it doesnt caunt?
The most hetero thing about Adora is her girlfriends eyes
I- HIDKSKSKSLDODOSOODOC NOT THE HETEROCHROMIA😭😭🤚
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Okay now that was funny 😄 now that got me dead 💀 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
LMAO NOT THE HETEROCHROMIA-
THE HETEROCHROMIA-
I really liked The Hollow and how it showed Adam being what you would call “the typical straight dude” and being masculine while being gay and not making a big deal out of it. (Also it’s kinda like the thing in Kipo where she likes him, but they go back to being friends again)
ooh, I haven't seen The Hollow yet! Sounds cool
Season 2 was so aaaaahhhh!!
it's just pvzptmnruhfhfy
Would not recommend The Hollow, but Adam was well done.
Ally Li why not? Just curious.
@@pushpops724 can't speak for Ally, but personally, the idea was cool, but not greatly executed. The animation is stiff, It's not very funny, it's really predictable, and somehow, at the same time it also manages to feel like it was all improvised last minute because the writers didn't know what to do ( *SPOILER:* it has a weird twist that you see coming from a mile away but it's dumb, and cliché. *END OF SPOILER* ). Also the characters have a very basic personality and arc, and just are overall uninteresting. I even had a hard time remembering who the comment was referring to lol. It's overall "meh". Nothing too offensive, very mediocre lol. That's sadly as much as I can say without spoiling the whole plot.
Maybe it just wasn't for me and I can't appreciate it. I also won't say that nobody is allowed to like it; I just wouldn't recommend it to anyone since I only recommend stuff that I love.
Ngl. Bob’s burgers perfected LGBTQ+ representation when it comes to representation in these shows.
They normalized it. They didn’t over preached it or made a big deal about it. They just said: “okay, they exist. Anyways on with the story...” it just felt natural. When they revealed that one of the characters is a lesbian, they just had her say that she had a girlfriend who had a snake and that was that. No grand reaction from the characters and no dramatic score playing. Things were normal. That’s how it should be, just make the LGBTQ+ community normal, not something absolutely grand. Bobs burgers makes them as normal human beings.
Oooh, I haven't caught up with Bob's Burgers in so long... I should go back to watching it!
Drawpinion Dump man! The end title songs.. they are always different for every episodes! It shows that the creators are still happy with the show
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@@crispywithinthemeat this is just reminding me of how much I love bobs burgers good job
I feel like Loud House did the same thing...at least where Clyde's Dad's, LunaxSam and two of Lynn Jr.'s classmates (Lainey and Alice) are concerned
"the creator said he might be asexual"
*Smiles in asexual*
I think being asexual sounds like a gift.
I am so damn happy me and Spongebob share the same pride flag.XD
We love our asexual panromantic sponge
@@Sir_Jordan2032 It's a gift and a curse really
Peridot from steven universe is aroace
people: how many lgbt character there is in shera?
shera: y e s
Mmmm yeah
They just be like: ALL OF 'EM
Pretty much everyone in a heterosexual relationship is confirmed bisexual and i love it
there’s nothing realistic about it.
@@maude. because having everyone be straight is far more realistic.
Not only did Noelle Stevenson explicitly state that none of her characters are straight unless they're explicitly stated to be, but with the f/f and m/m couples in She Ra all being explicit while the m/f couples are just implied, she pulled an uno reverse card on the tablescraps we've been getting all these years where it's usually the other way around, which is just... WOW. Also, thank you for putting Ty Lee and Azula in here, that scene where they "practice" flirting with the implication that they do it frequently lives in my head rent free and no one else is talking about it.
I was thinking the same thing. If atla gets another season and azula gets redemption her and tylee better be smooching
I love that some of the characters that end up in m/f relationships are bi like Bow
Fine. I'm bingewatching it tonight
I might just be dumb, but who are the mlm couples in She-Ra? I can’t seem to remember any.
@@escalator8969 Bows dads
I freaked out when my siblings were watching Kipo and Benson just came out and said "I'm gay". I was so incredibly happy, to be honest. It was so amazing to see the representation and how the show just continued. I absolutely loved it, and never expected it.
They were getting hypnotized, they were trying to and became curious about the phrase it’s concerning
@@80sman986 ???
@@80sman986 did you just comment this on a video on lgbt+ representation right??
I had the same reaction, my brother watched it, he also watched shera with me, and a little while later he was like "SEE I told you he didn't have a crush on Kipo." and proceeded to mock my mom for thinking benson had a crush on kipo. kids dont give a fuck what the characters are, they just want to watch tv
Ngl, the video was awesome until the end, but, when the "Ace rights Babey!" hit?
It became Iconic 😅😅😅
thank u for appreciating ace rights
@@DrawpinionDump I sure hope I would lol I'm ace myself ✌😂
I don’t get how people don’t support asexual/aromantic people, like ok maybe your dumb religion says that liking the same sex is wrong (not saying religion in general is dumb just that if your religion is homophobic it kinda is) but your mad that somebody doesn’t want to kiss anybody?
I really don't get why people bash on Ace's they just don't want to do the *unholy* thing
@@kirstenzerbinis2973 Right? You'd think religious ppl aka team "here's 100 reasons being horny is illegal and bad" would be happy about asexuals! 😅
i love how she-ra's gay couples are explicitly confirmed and straight couples are just implied, thats a nice uno reverse card
Hahahahahahaha
I like that better
Yeah it's a refreshing juxtaposition
Wait what about Bow and Glimmer though?
@@lunasticesky1188
Technically they’re not straight; they’re both bi and are in a hetero relationship.
Edit: And I believe that their relationship was confirmed?? I need to rewatch the show lol
yooo when he just said so simply "I'm gay :D" I almost fell out of my chair. whenever someone's gay in a show they always seem to have to make that a huge subplot that drags on and causes Angst, and they usually have to face the awkward straight crushes that wont leave them alone, and very often they lose friends over it. but that was so perfectly handled and wonderful to watch and ughhh my god good job good show I love it too much to translate my feelings into words ;3;
Two examples I want to talk about: Velma from Scooby Doo: Mystery Incorporated. While she has been confirmed as a lesbian for the past few years, there was heavy context that her relationship with Shaggy was a bad case of comp het and that she didn’t start considering it until after their breakup and the mermaid episode. I thought it was refreshing to see a character that didn’t really realize she was gay until later in life, and the show did its best with it. I only wish she actually apologized to Shaggy for treating him badly.
I always thought that she was bisexual-
@@LemonnNote I initially did too, but the more I thought about it, her relationship with Shaggy felt forced by design. Like she was trying too hard to be a traditional couple with him and tried to change him too much without ever being satisfied with that.
@@GamerSlyRatchet1 i hope shaggy is okay :(
@@LemonnNote she's bi
THEY CONFIRMED SHE’S A LESBIAN!? As if I couldn’t love Mystery Incorporated anymore
Since Spongebob is a sea sponge, He's likely not ONLY Asexual, but born without as well, but chooses to go by male pronouns (much like his parent's chose to present as male and female) making him technically a form of Trans Man raised by a Trans couple.
And since Nick implied he was gay in the tweet, He's possibly Homoromantic.
Oh my god... The Trans icon we need...
Most Sponges are actually hermaphrodites meaning they have both male and female organs. So technically he can be both Male and female if he feels like it and would not be technically wrong.
And funny enough same goes with Piccolo from Dragon Ball (Namekian’s are influenced from snails that are hermaphrodite as well.).
@@brandonlyon730 wait, Piccilolo's people are based off of snails?
@@andrewdiaz3529 Kind of, most of the Namekian names are names related to snails and slugs, Dende is a Japanese word for Snail and Nail is snail without the S. And the name Namek is taken from the Japanese word Namekuji which means Slug. Dragon ball’s author loved to name people after different things or foods, like the saiyan’s with Vegetables or Frieza’s family with Coldness.
Namekian’s also have antennae and are hermaphrodite as real life snails and slugs are so there are no male or female Namekian’s or snails since any one of them can lay (or in the case of Namekian’s barf out) eggs.
I see him as panromantic.
Once I saw an ad for a webtoon on ig, and I commented "is this gay?" And someone had the audacity to say "why does everything have to be gay nowadays" *as if* the LGBTQ+ community had somehow too much representation in media. Lol wtf.
Bruh what?! LGBTQ still gets so little representation still and there are straight couples in LITERALLY EVERYTHING! It would have been WAY easier for me to come to terms with my sexual orientation if I had had some media exposure as a kid!
@@ren9897 period.
I mean there sorta right, yes there is less than there should be but nowadays things do kinda feel forced into being gay (like steven universe)
@@kaistar4293 you must be trolling
@@victormunhozzz nope and before everyone calls me a raging homophobe I'm bisexual now that we got that out of the way
I should have worded that differently what I ment was that while yes there is still little lgbtq+ repersention, with shows like steven universe it can feel like its forced to be gay (sorry for the bad spelling I'm only 13 and am very much far behind of literacy)
what I find kind of odd is that generally lgbtq rep in cartoons is limited to two women or girls. Kipo is the only canon male gay character I can name in a children's show
You should try a Netflix show called The Hollow! I won't spoil who it is for you (though you may have some auto guesses if you do decide to check it out), but it does have a canon gay male character. The situation actually ends up similar to how it was for Kipo. It's also a cartoon with cool concepts, I totally recommend it.
True. There should be more mlm characters in animation.
@Rose Bud
What if it was a restaurant / hotel combo and the shenanigans of all of them trying to run their business(es) together. Plus they could be friends or have drama and stuff.
Ps, what medium are you thinking? Book? Show? Comic?
Not the best example, but one of the male leads in Voltron is gay, though everyone's really mad at that rep since his fiance was really hyped up by shitty marketing but actually killed off and replaced with him marrying a background character at the end.
tldr: is the mysoginy that downplays womens capacities painting them as defenseless and never a threat thus making depicting lesbians ~not as bad~ because "after all is kinda hot so let them be"
4:33 true. It’s actually more of smaller step when you realize it. Rebecca Sugar threaten to quit Cartoon Network if she couldn’t have her wedding in and then the creators of She- Ra once again had to threaten the creators to get the kiss scene in at the end. Aurthors episode got sensors too. Its not the tv networks are fine with it all of a sudden. It’s just that they can now push back when they get shut down, without loosing the show.
Thats not what actually happened
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Skip to 9:00 in thia video to see what really happened to steven universe
Yeah, and didn’t they rush the SU wedding?
@@cosmicspacething3474 Not to mention it shared time with setting up turning the multi genocidal diamonds into sob stories.
I remember there was a situation where SVTFOE's staff wanted same sex couples in the background, Disney executives complained saying it was a bad idea but, when asked by the show staff why, they dropped the arguement.
TO paraphrase a certain youtuber, whilst it's common knowledge that companies do not like complaints from homophobic people, the thing they fear more is for people to lump them into the homophobic crowd.
If the bad guys who want to destroy a planet can respect they/them pronouns anyone can
Thats actually a good idea for a villain's redemtion arch, starting off misgendering a cast member and
(but not pausing for it, as the villain shouldn't be corrected after the first time) as the villain joins their team, uses the correct pronoun (montages of them learing are unnecessary) and perhaps that protag remarking during a battle or somth that they used the right pronoun
(perferably not the main character, as villains redeming themselves to the main hero is often annoying, and it's far more interesting to see all cast members gain trust)
P.S. Pronouns are a respect thing, so your evil villain thing doesn't work, because usually villains respect their adversaries
They have hte resources and power to destory an entire planet, they're obviously cultured and refined somewhat.
@@icouldbeyourmom2537 Kinda like Parradot in SU when they refused to call Garnet anything other than "The fusion"
Well at least they are polite
Professionals have standards
*gasp*
Is that why my mom wouldn't let me watch spongebob?
*Well that backfired, now she gotta deal with my gay a** *
Edit: The hell why does me being gay have 1k likes-
Now when people ask me my most liked comment I gotta say this, really guys?
Congrats you now got 100 like!
-From,
The 100th liker
The 100th liker was 12 hours ago now there's 165 likes.
230 now
Wow, nice
If Your mother disowns you for being gay then move out
Reginald The one
Nah, she’s cool with it, she just didn’t want to expose me to how awful people would be, as in homophobia
I’m just annoyingly gay, blasting Little Miss Perfect on a speaker at 2 am-
I feel like bisexuality is something that isn’t represented as much. If it is, it would most likely be “Bisexual character, let’s make them date a person of the same sex immediately.” While there’s no problem with that, being bisexual doesn’t mean that you have to date someone of the same gender to be considered bi. I went years before I actually dated a girl, but I’d know since I was a teen that I was bi, or just interested in whoever I was interested in.
This is so true, and this is why I love Brooklyn 99 so much: Rosa Diaz for exemple *warning minor spoilers* dated 2 guys (even considered marrying one of them) before actually starting to date girls in later seasons. What I also loved about her coming out is that they showed that sometimes bi people are not taken seriously, like Rosa's mom thinking that she'll eventually find the right man and completly push aside the "i'm also into girls" part of her sexuality.
@@LeoDBW honestly I’d still love b99 even if they didn’t do that. I love Rosa, I think they wrote her really well.
The show ok ko has a bi character who dated a straight character, and later on in the show gets married to another bi character and they make the cutest couple and it's great. They're my favorite characters in the show
@@mollytheyorkie-poo7514 that’s really cool!
Bow from She-Ra took a confirmed transgender girl as a plus one at a party and it’s implied as a date. Had a crush on sea-something (I forget the name just know it has sea in it) who is a boy and ends up dating Glimmer (a girl) at the end of the series.
“just guys being dudes” *shows the cops from gravity falls*
cops from gravity falls: “we're mad with power… and love”
Ngl, I started crying when that came out. I mean, I instantly picked up on their relationship, but it was so adorable that they finally said it.
I never really saw them as gay. Not sure why. Re-watching the show again, and yeah, they gay
When I tell you I needed to pause a second to process the fact that a cartoon character got to flat out say out lout casually "I'm gay" and its not during a finale of show, I--. Wow. We really HAVE come a long way.
YES OML
That’s why I love She-ra and Kipo so much. In She-ra sexuality or gender isn’t even mentioned at all. Double Trouble was recognized by their pronouns (they/them) without even saying it. They never even said they were NB it was just there. In Kipo, it just wasn’t a big deal and I adored that.
Spongebob, to me never felt like a "gay" character; he just seemed like someone sorely determined to bring joy to other people's lives (like Squidward.) Thus, I don't really count him as a symbol of LGBTQ+ representation.
However, there are plenty of other positive examples I can list off the top of my head
I will have to agree. I know that at no point in development or at any point after was LGBTQ representation of any kind on the minds of anyone working on the show. Their only priority was just to make a funny cartoon. They never once considered it, or thought of it. I'm all for representation. In fact, I love it when it's done and I will always want more. But Spongebob Squarepants is a show that should always be left out of this conversation.
@@the-NightStar Agreed
ᵗʰᵉNight★Star yeah I think they should just leave all the non married characters in the show’s sexualities unknown
@@kirstenzerbinis2973 Agreed
The parent outrage was weird like are boys not allowed to be happy or positive? Are those "gay" traits
"They would be censored out of the main storyline..."
*Shows Haruka and Michiru*
Me: *gets traumatic cousin flashbacks*
*Oh no*
Went from wholesome couple to Alabama 100
"Just cousin hanging' out!"
Lol
hm that guy she had her first kiss with looked an awful lot like haruka
What i really appreciate about Kipo is that Benson literally said "I'm gay". No "uhh I'm not interested.....", no "i swing the other way", no "i love differently". He used the word gay. I can't even describe how happy i was when he said that
My only problem with the inclusion movement of the lgbtq in cartoons is when it is done badly. Where being gay or lesbian is their only personality and that only part of the character the show focuses on. Those characters should still have a personality besides their sexuality
yes, it's like when a character is used to be like don't be racist and they are black but that's it, they are only there to say don't be racist
It's why we're gonna have a long time before asexual, platonic relationships or just health FRIENDSHIPS are gonna be more of a thing. It's always romance and personally, that's the most boring part about being with people.
I find big movies tend to be more guilty of that than cartoons. Feels like they add women and minority characters by following a checklist instead of actually writing characters that happen to be women or minorities. Then you get these flat 1 dimensional cardboard cutout characters that have no value in the story and the produce expect pats on the back for it. Then they go and use women/minorities as a shield to deflect any criticism of their uninspired, low quality writing.
@@IceFireofVoid Yup, expecting people to just eat it up when everybody can see it's pretty bad. Not all rep is good rep, there a difference from they tried and failed like a movie so bad it's good. It's more like them dropping like 50mil+ and the project is still bad yet getting pissed at us for not giving them money
Litterly like Daniel is more than gay boy with homophobic parents 😭😭😭😭😭😭it’s so forced
Character:*isn't extremely heterosexual and overly masculine*
Everyone:"wait _thats illegal_ "
Did you time travel to the 90s?
@@nerfcontent9429 don't tell the government
@@insane9977 want to teach me how?
@@arthurdias6860 smoke a lot of weed, take three tabs of acid and then drink as much alcohol as you can
@@insane9977 ok due, thanks! IT'S TIME TO FUCK THE TIME, WITH WACKY TIMELINE PARADOXES DUDE!
oh my god the style of the last show is giving me serotonin oh my GOD
the entire show is just good vibes
So basically, T.V., you cannot hide from the pride.
Yep
We are infiltrating the art, the culture, the museums. Fear the alphabet mafia. Lol.
Not forever at least
The rainbows light will find all shows
And that's a bad thing. People are fed up with LGBT.
Shows with only hetero couples and only implied gay couples *exists*
She ra: KIRBY RIGHT BACK AT YA
Well, Angella and Micah are a hetero couple, so it's not only implied, but fair enough. ..these are actually the only straights I can think of rn
Uno reverse card
Lol
@@massive.nerd.potential However, Angella dies. Like how in a lot of shows one of the people in a same-sex relationship dies.
Oh wait Angella’s trapped between dimensions since she’s immortal
That’s dark for a kids’ show
@@Nickys_Corner oh wow I never thought of that- okay that's kinda funny. ..the fact that's it really such an uno reverse, bot the fact, that she's trapped there
Everyone is talking about Garnet and Catradora, but no one is talking about thise two gay police officers from Gravity Falls. They are canonically a couple, even Alex Hirch confirmed that.
Also, Craig from the Creek...? I think that was the name of this cartoon.
*Creek
Also, looking back at those two officers, it makes sense now (I was a kid back then so I didn’t think anything of it) but yeah!
Yeah ,theres also Clarence ,but nobody gives a shit about Clarence
In Craig of the creek, I think that 2 of the skating people are gay, in the backround if an episode, you could see them doing a slow dance
@@tilliebelcher6708 Theres also The "Witchs"
Marco Animações Clarence is an amazing show but no one talks about it!
i'm mostly interested in trans representation tbh. as a trans, i feel sad that it's never explicitly stated that any given character is trans
imma make a cartoon at some point. one of the main characters is gonna be trans, and he's gonna just be hanging out. and then he's gonna complain about dysphoria. the official main character, who won't know up until that point, will question him. he'll come out, main character will say, "so you wanna be a girl?" and he'll say "no, quite the opposite actually." and then they'll have a little laugh over the confusion and the show will go on.
Same!! As a nonbinary person I really like how they handled Double Trouble in She-Ra and a lot of Stevens fusions like Stevonnie in Steven Universe but I'm also kinda sad there's not more openly trans and nonbinary characters out there
Steampunk Llama when there *are* trans characters, it's rarely mentioned, too! that's frustrating because, in my experience at least, i have to talk about it almost every time i socialize because people can't do their own research and be respectful! i wish it'd be explained nicely sometimes :(
Rose Bud yesssssss good on you
I’m going to make a cartoon when I’m older, the main character will be non-binary (kinda on the spectrum) and another who is demisexual, I’m really excited so I can put a lot of diversity! Not just lgbt+ but race and religions!
@@steampunk-llama as an enby boy i lost my shit in the last season of steven universe. i am horrible with names but saidies partner is enby and i love them so much they are vibing as hell
Me: *comes out to my friends*
Friends: hah loser we were all gay before you
Me: what-
Lol perfect
I didn’t really come out to my friends, for a while I was the only straight friend and now I’ve just started identifying as pansexual without a come-out and they didn’t say anything lmao
Since my friend group is mostly straight guys their reactions to me being bisexual (but heavily leaning to female) were just like “you like girls too? nice.”
Most of my friends are LGBTQ+ and I don’t even come out to them.. as soon as I meet a friend I just tell them I’m Bi and then we just talk and blah blah blah
My favorite case of lgbtq representation in media would have to be snufkin and moomin from Moomin Valley. They managed to not only display healthy character dynamics and a healthy family with both parents being loving and attentive and also encouraging but they also show characters showing types of love and affection that are different than just romantic love.
You see two characters that have obviously had more intimate experiences or others that have relationships that are on more of a platonic and strong bond level the show manages to not only subvert many tropes but also subvert a lot of ideas on what it means to love and beloved and watching you dive into that while also having a great style and commentating pattern is really really cool.
Keep up all the awesome work we're watching and we really love it.
PS. Have you ever seen bedfellows, and what do you think about their relationship or talking about them in the future.
MOOMINS!!!
That's funny that you bring that up, because there are several instances of Tove expressing her homosexuality throughout the books and show! For example, Too-Ticky was based off of her girlfriend, Tuulikki. Snufkin was also based on a past lover, but I can remember who it was. I think the most obvious example though of Tove's expression is Thingumy and Bob. They are an inseperable pair who are based around Tove herself and another past lover, which I think is adorable. I'm not sure how true this is, but there is speculation going about how the Groke is a symbol for homophobia among other types of hate and prejudice. I'm sure there are several more ties between the characters and Tove's personal life, but they haven't been revealed. It's sad though, the official website is masking Tove's relationship with Tuulikki and the meanings behind the characters... There are no pronouns used for Tuulikki, she is only referred to once, and she is simply labeled "partner" instead of "girlfriend". Same thing kinda with Thingumy and Bob, they are labeled as twins even though, according to Tove, that isn't even canon
Oh my god just when I though the show couldn't get any more blessed.
From what I read the relationship between moomin and snufkin was based on the creator and her ex spouse
@@akiishitster1742 *her, tove's a woman
Bro the fact that she ra even introduced a non binary character just proves how amazing it is at the representation part. I think it's literally the first time I've seen a non binary /gender fluid character in a cartoon and I love it.
Wasn't there a non binary character in kipo
YES I LOVE DOUBLE TROUBLE SO MUCH
@@user-hf9xc1sz4u sameee
@@jdthebanana7967 I haven’t watched kipo,I don’t know if they have one
@McKayla Marille yes exactly even tho they dont understand they respect their pronouns. its literally that easy
LGBTQ Info - She-Ra: Princess Of Power
Spoiler warning?
Lesbian:
-Adora and Catra, who are dating
-Scorpia and Perfuma, who are dating
-Netossa and Spinnerella, who are married
-Huntara (this one’s not confirmed I don’t think, but nobody would be surprisedly it’s true)
-Scorpia’s mothers, who are shown in a photo of Scorpia as a baby, being held by the two of them
Gay:
-Falcon, who dated Sea Hawk at one point
-George and Lance, who are married and are Bow’s fathers
Bisexuals:
-Bow and Glimmer, who are dating
-Mermista and Sea Hawk, who are dating
-Lonnie, Rogelio and Kyle, who are in a poly relationship
-Entrapta, who I feel like mentioning is also autistic
Transgender:
-Jewelstar, who is a transgender male
-Perfuma, who is a transgender female
-Peekablue, who is an assumed transgender male
Non-binary:
-Double Trouble
Analysis: I fucking love this show
(Tell me if I missed anyone :3)
(Also, not all of this is is confirmed, but it is implied)
Ah yes all the carchters because too much please overload why!!!! makenitmstop my statistic brain says one couple Aaaarh
I thought Entrapta was ace bi?
I think Perfuma was pan? I could be wrong tho
@@AnxietyPossumArt actually, I think you’re right. I thought she was just ace for a long time and then I found out that she was bi so maybe she is both? Idk I couldn’t find a straight answer
@@_inkysnow_4715 of course it wouldn't be straight Lol
to be honest, I wish straight people dating bisexual women/men was normalized and representated in tv shows. a lot of people sometimes think, "but you're a lesbian/gay man, so you can't date that bisexual person, because they date the opposite sex!! that's weird!!" i'm tired of the "nO sTraIGhTs alLOwEd!!" in specific shows, because that's not really diversity; to me, diversity is including ALL sexualities. i just think it'd be nice representation. :'))
edit: Sooo, I'm not understanding the people getting pressed at this. Get over yourself?? Lmao what I said shouldn't be a problem. Also, please stop assuming I'm straight, thanks.
That is partially highlighted in the Legend of Korra comics.
Korra and Asami who are now a couple, have an interaction with Mako, a straight male who they both dated.
He says he was just being awkward because he never had two of his exes date each other before but said he was happy for them and loves them together.
So in this case it was a straight man coming to the realization that both of his exes (now friends) are bi and he didn’t have a problem with it and it wasn’t a big deal.
I just think that’s cool (:
In the show ok k.o. they literally have a bi character (prof. Venomous) who used to date a straight character and later gets married to another bi character and it's great. I find them to be the cutest lgbt couple in a cartoon
@@mentallyunstable1926 your name speaks volumes about you.
@@mentallyunstable1926 That's not good writing though. Revenge gives poor quality content. You should be avoiding all tokenism.
@@icebear1138 that’s literally what’s happening to lgbt characters and poc characters. we need better writing for all characters not just the cis straight white ones (and they’re usually men too)
People thought Spongebob was homosexual? Pretty sure he's always been asexual, and I thought it was obvious. Like wtf? XD
He also may be bigender and identifying as male because sea sponges have both male and female parts
I literally never even thought of Spongebob's sexuality, because that was never the point of the show...
@@9999AWC Same
@@9999AWC and people say the lgbt community are obsessed with gender/sexuality
@@user-jm6cl6fj1l because they don't have much representation and imagine the characters in they fav show is LGBT make them happy
Another group of people often overlooked: disabled people!
Someone needs to mention TOTS, a show on disney junior that has a handful of onscreen gay parents and even the reoccurring theme of "all you need to make a family is love" with two main supporting cast members ending up adopting children outside their species
On my gosh! I watch tots with my baby brother and yes!
This is why I love the show, also, did you know in the movie "Storks" there were babies were delivered to lgbt+ couples? It made me smile to know that
@@preciousjewel3792 in the ending scene right? i saw that too. it was great
My brother loves that show!
@@preciousjewel3792 omg I remember that movie
Shera had great couples because they still involved heterosexual couples, Glimmer and Bow. Remember, Just because someone is straight does NOT mean they are not accepting. Your sexuality is YOUR sexuality. Everyone has their own life, own perspective! And be proud of yours! ❤❤
@Ooohbopbopboppadoohwah I know right- I swear, twitter just scares me-
I think Glimmer, Bow, Mermista, and Seahawk are all bi, not hetero.
@@CrypticMShadow That could be true, and they'll still be valid and be it'll a great show! I just thought they were heterosexual at first. But of course Its bad to assume.
I'm pretty sure Bow and Glimmer are bi, but I agree with you!
@Ooohbopbopboppadoohwah absolutely agree! I’m kind of glad I’m not dealing with any of those sites anymore. Twitter seems like the perfect place to go if you love to intentionally misread posts and create a sh**t- show out of nothing and Tumblr is well... Tumblr.
I find that kind of mentality pretty much everywhere though, including on TH-cam. Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad we’re getting more positive and healthy LGBT-rep but when people feel the need to go after every person who ships pairings like Bow x Adora and basically call them “evil, disgusting, homophobes who invalidate Adora’s sexuality” (even though the only one who can validate or invalidate a character’s is the actual creator of the show -_-) things are everything but positive and healthy.
"Coming out to friends doesn't need a lotta drama."
Lmao i literally cried when coming out... In class
For the people who complain that the korrasami was forced, the legend of korra Korra ended in 2014 before same-sex marriage was legal in every state in the US. If they developed their relationship more than they They did, no way would Nick have let those episodes air.
that's why I think the legend of korra, along with other series, made a positive change in people.
EDIT: I’ve seen comments from people who tell me that the series as adventure time did this better and in parts are right, but as explained in my comment, the legend of Korra came out at a time when representing this very explicitly was difficult so it was obvious that Nick would place limits on the creators of what to show and what not, Instead, in adventure time I began to represent these themes in a year where showing this was more standardized and not to mention the owl house that had no limits to show and that did not show and gave us one of the best LGBTQA+ couples of all animation in general.
They could’ve done more to build up their relationship though.
@@teacoon6399 did you miss that last sentence
@@teacoon6399 The relationship between the two was always there if you look closely at the series, although I will not deny that I would have liked them to show us the evolution of the relationship in a more explicit way, but in any case it is understandable that the creators were afraid of show it explicitly, if you want to see more of the relationship I recommend you read the comics ;)
@@teacoon6399 Book 1: rivals
Book 2: friends
Book 3: best friends
Book 4: fell in love
It's perfect, I love all the scenes with both, meeting a person for 3 years and having such a close friendship is already big enough to have a romantic feeling
@Ooohbopbopboppadoohwah This is not about who did it best, it is about how each series contributed its grain of sand.
“Don’t you love it when cartoons are gay?” That’s gotta be one of the weirdest sentences to open a video with
I say no!!!!
But an amazing attention grabber and my answer to that question is YES :))
@@ronniexfile7701 RIP to u then.
Then what!
Ronnie XFILE
Why?
Also: did you know in equstria girls mlp rarity and applejack (two girls) are hinted at liking each other. They blush, hold hands and just seem very happy around each other and the creators actually ship them!
And in their "main universe"(you know the pony one-) applejack and rainbow dash are hinted to be married (it left for interpretation), Lyra and bonbon are married (it showed in the background of "Big Mac question"(I think that's the name) and the last episode and Scootaloo had her aunts who are married!
And did you know in mlp some ponies have different lgbtq flag color schemes to them
@@tallietorchersproductions2740 yeah
Pinkie pie = lesbian/pan
Twilight= bi
Rainbow dash= gay
Fluttershy= pan
I don't think it was intended tho
Scootaloo's Aunts
I'd like to see that action!
Wait, in the community I have seen people who are questioning gender being called egg? Coincidence? Probably.
Yep, because another term for coming out of the closet for trans people is cracking, though that's more to do with realising you're not cis rather than actively telling others/transitioning
no gender only egg
i egg
Its disappointing when animated shows represent lgtbq+ better than live action shows
Why tho
@@nerfcontent9429 because it’s live action and meant to represent the real world whilst animated shows aren’t that much.
@@nerfcontent9429 maybe because you can literally create any universe and plot situation in an animated series; you aren't stuck trying to create a 'show about nothing' that can be related to by a vast prime-time viewer base. Also, young viewers are usually far more receptive to new ideas than older viewers.
Oh ok
I have decided, when I get older, I'm going to make a cartoon with healthy relationships and plenty of lgbtq+, race and disability rep. The Gen Alpha and Beta kids shouldn't have to grow up in the same world I did, where the parents would turn away and scoff at a fictional LGBT couple.
good luck friend, i hope someday i get to watch it :)
@@OfficialYan75 Thanks!! It will definitely be a while, but in the end it will be worth it.
Yeah and if they want to be straight then sure if not then sure that’s what humanity should be like people should be accepted
@@nerfcontent9429 wow, there is over 6000 languages in the world and you decided to speak Facts.
me waiting for this be like : 👌
3:37
"I wanna talk, about representation"
She says as Catra is drowned in a wave of gay 😂💕🏳️🌈
Me: *Sees character at pride with a Pansexual shirt
Me 5 milliseconds later: FAVOURITE CHARACTER TIME
Me tho
What?
Mood
Also hello fellow pansexual
yes
ugh
I liked the ending of paranormal "my boyfreind would love you"
Made me laugh. And its perfect because than the audience wouldnt focus on his sexuality the entire movie
I love that!!! Paranorman is so good
my mom didn't allow me to watch spongebob when I was a kid and I turned out gay anyways so jokes on her
Is only one season in but amity's gay Panic is everything to me that is just exactly how I get when I see any girl that I think is super cute which is honestly kind of most of them. Also Luz being though we haven't got to like see it be super confirmed in the show and has been confirmed outside it's definitely going to come up in season 2 and she's always pretty much read like that and dropped enough hints that I didn't need to confirm my new. Also she is just a fantastic character all-around she's easily my favorite in the show. She's extremely relatable and probably has like the best character growth I love her.
My other favorite is obviously she ra and not show just makes me cry all throughout season 5 it's so beautiful and gay and sweet and it just makes me so happy that it exist.
Luz is probably bi or pan but there's no way that's a straight girl. And I don't doubt that she'll return Amity's feelings, though the way it is now Luz is playing the role of the oblivious romantic interest. I don't think she's ever been the apple of someone's eye, so atm she probably just assumes that Amity is just a little strange.
@@Spoonicks luz is confirmed bi
@@Spoonicks the creator Said she's Bi
asexual and aromantic people need more representation in shows. i only really know two. todd (is that his name?) from bojack horseman, who is asexual. and peridot from steven universe, who is aromantic and asexual.
Watch Billions
Isn't peridot in an implied relationship with Lapis? There's even an episode where they go out as a couple and peridot wears a bow tie. I think it involved a wedding of some kind
@@kin-3877 no. she is in no relationship whatsoever. peridot is the aromantic and asexual representation of the show, it was confirmed by maya petersen after the release of the suf episode " in dreams ".
@@onionskin246 really then what was with all the episodes making them out to be a lesbian couple living together? It was very clear.
@@kin-3877 dude. they did NOT make them out to be a lesbian couple. just because they lived together doesn't mean they were lesbian. i'm just saying what is pratically canon in the series. what you are saying is not. a former storyboarder snuck "lapidot" scenes into the show without rebecca's consent and was fired for it, and it wasn't even that serious. they never had anything between them.
can we just be happy that we finally have an aroace representation in the show? there's very few and we need to represent aroace people. plus, peridot's colour palette is LITERALLY the aromantic flag.
LGBTQ+ representation makes me :)
Same
(:
Same
I love reading through this comment section, it’s so wholesome
@@kirstenzerbinis2973 Ikr
I want to see gender fluid representation but I'm scared that it will depicted as the outdated concept of multiple personality disorder or now known as DID
Read Magnus Chase by Rick Riordan! In the 2nd book of the series they introduce Alex Fierro, who is gender-fluid and transgender and switches between going by he/him and she/her, and is an Einherjar child of Loki. Alex has shape shifting powers and has explained multiple times what it means to be genderfluid, and explained why he/she doesn’t go by they/them, but how some people prefer it. Alex becomes the main love interest for Magnus, who is implied to be Pansexual.
Skulletta Bones
Yeah, I don't get how people think being Gender-fluid is having DID or Split personality disorder. I've known gender-fluid people and it has nothing to do with the disorder. People should think of them as who they are, not some disorder
Emily R oh shiiit how did you know I love Loki! I'll check that out for sure.
There’s a character in Craig of the Creek that uses they/them pronouns. That was honestly the first time I felt represented
Forrest Carvalho Angel
Kipo: how to not have your feelings returned and not let it ruin a friendship
I'm gay, but I couldn't care less about representation. I just ask to be given likeable and well-written characters.
And if they happen to be gay, then okay, that's fine. But don't make it define the character. That's stupid.
A person recently complimented me for being a gay composer. And while I appreciated that they liked my subpar music, I feel like they probably just liked it because I happen to be gay.
People need to be recognized for their personalities and skills. NOT for which person they want to sleep with.
I'm all for gay representation if it's not obnoxiously shoved in your face.
Otherwise, it makes me feel like an object companies use to appear more woke.
Thanks so much for saying it I'm gay myself and I feel the absolute same way about the whole thing
yeah the thing is that i thought i was sick and twisted for being gay, and what made me feel better and actually be able to come out with people i trusted was media that depicted characters in a good light that had similar struggles and feelings than me. representation isnt just lmao gay character fun ig is a way to show that your existence is recognized acknowledged and appreciated enough in order to be explayed in a work of art. you dont need a storyline or a purpose, you dont hear people complaining about how "they had no need to make that character straight". is about bending the normative, about the "gay or normal" or "straight by default unless stated otherwise" not being there. i think you got a really not nice enviroment, and some internalized homophobia you may need to work on. i used to think the same way as you did, surround yourself with people who understand and open your mind :)
@@bandidocavalier How do I have internalized homophobia? I literally said I was gay.
Seriously, get off your high horse. lol
Don't patronize people for having different viewpoints on certain topics.
@@musicbyalexYT Internalized homophobia, mysoginy, racism etc is when a person from an opressed demographic holds views regarding such demographic that were inculcated by the oppressive view of society over it, you literally dont know what i am talking about and yet you say that i am wrong? You get off your high horse, being gay doesnt means you can have certain stereotypes and concepts just taken away from your head the second you see a person of the same gender and you go "hot'
@kitten cat Not supporting gay people having the right to be presented in media is homophobic, it promotes segregation and takes away the visibility of demographics that are already pretty invisible to the mainstream in the first place. Plus a gay person going against (or not in favor per se) representation is just another talking point for homophobes to go "why are girls kissing on tv not even the gays want this"
Benson came out to Kipo like I did to my friends, I simply said "I'm not into guys" and then we just kept walking to the bakery
also i’m the first ep of kipo when she is trying on clothes, one of the dresses is the colors of the bi flag (idk if she has been confirmed bi or not, but i thought it was a cute detail)
No one:
Absolutely no one:
Me at every family reunion: I wanna talk about ✨𝓇𝑒𝓅𝓇𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓃𝓉𝒶𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃✨
Spongebob:"Bye Squidward, By Mr.Crabs. By Squidward~."
Patrick:"you said bye Squidward twice."
Spongebob:"I like Squidward"
I mean it's okay if parents don't want their children to see certain stuff. That's fine.
However I hate it when parent bash on the creators of the show about thing that they probably don't understand. Every child is not your child and you shouldn't try to change media in any way unless it is actually harming people. I mean actually ignoring a person human rights and bringing physical pain to or exploiting someone.
In conclusion you can raise your kid in any way as long as you're breaking law. Just don't ruin the lives of other people because you can't 'fathom how corrupting the next generation'. (That last part was obviously sarcastic)
It isn't okay. Law does not equal morality, and hurting your own child is just as wrong as hurting someone else's. Both are human beings and should not be stifled by being born to someone that only wants to control them and force them into their own worldview. :(
@@oghenbread3330
1. I have a feeling you don't understand what I said to a tee
2. Also a majority of our morality is represented by laws. Someone wouldn't put a law into place if they believed no one is being benefitted by it.
3. I'm really sorry if it sounds like I'm trying to argue. I don't want to start an argument but just follow up on your previous statement. You can feel however you want to feel. That's okay. I just wanted to express how annoyed I am with some parents.
Oh God, Everyone hate me now〜(꒪꒳꒪)〜〜(꒪꒳꒪)〜
@@celestiaseri5946 i mean. Not all laws reflect morality. There are sadly some stuff thats still legal, and exceptions to stuff. Also, an example: USA still allows drawn CP. But only if its art and not an actual real life child. Moral says this wrong, law says it isnt. Not to mention law of consent, it actually differs from state to state, but even if that law of consent permits a sexual relationship, even if its a 17/18 thing, they two arent allowed to legally send nudes, but totally allowed to have sex. Not all laws or moral correct, and many have loopholes with some damningly thin lined.
@@enderwalkgang I'm aware, also this happens to be a big pet peeves of mine. But it's chill it's all chill.
7:02 OK THIS WAS THE MOTIVATION I NEEDED
IM WATCHING KIPPO
Perfect timing!! Season 3 is coming out soon!
Honestly same. Like that's it I'm sold. That line is all I needed.
IVE BEEN A FAN OF KIPO SINCE LESS THAN A WEEK AFTER IT WAS RELEASED! YOU WILL NOT REGRET IT!!
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I have litterally never thought of spongebob as gay or anything like that i just liked how he acted and how funny the show was
And that's what the creator intended. I don't understand why Spongebob keeps being brought up in LGBT discussions...
As someone who is Ace, I actually would find ace representation in media very, very difficult to do right in any sort of normalized way. Sure, a piece of media that puts focus on it as a major theme would be possible. But in 'normalized representation...' Well, it's complicated.
Yep, we need obvious rep before normalizing it, bc there's so much bad rep that we need to counter first
I guess you haven't seen Billions
The webcomic Muted has an asexual character
In She-ra, I think it’s canon that Entrapta is ace, I’m not completely sure tho. I’ll search it up and get back to u.
What about Bojack Horseman and Todd?
Omg when I was watching Kipo and she and Benson got on the Ferris wheel, I clicked off at first and left it for a few days because I didn’t want to deal with another forced relationship like that. Then when I picked the series up again from that episode and Benson just goes “I’m gay!”
I was shocked for a moment before just going “oh that’s cool and unexpected” before continuing the series and loving Benson and Troy as a couple
15:13, do I see...PRIDE FLAGS?! I honestly never expected to see anything lgbtq+ in any cartoon shows, but here we are. I think I, going to give this show a watch. I love me some good representation! 🏳️🌈💖💛💙
PANSEXUAL RIGHTS BABEY!! 💖💛💙
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Whooo!!
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@@Notamoomin you see the DiCaprio meme of him pointing at the tv ? that was me when I saw it
Netflix: "Relax guys, I got this."
Glimmer from “She-ra” and Kipo from “Kipo” have the same voice actor.
I KNEW GLIMMER"S VOICE WAS FAMILIAR AAA
She’s also Katana in Suicide Squad and Kimiko in The Boys
Hiddlestucky Stark
Really?! Huh. That’s cool.
Thanks for the reply!
I hope moominvalley isn’t to scaredy to make the characters (you know who :33) explicitly gay :”))
With every new Moominvalley season our hearts just grow gayer
They had the opportunity to have Thingumy and Bob be a cannon lesbian couple (The author confirmed that they're supposed to represent her and her girlfriend) and they didn't
@@oscarwilde3670 oh man I totally agree; but I did like the lines they included in S2 about how their love for each other is brighter than any treasure and whatnot... Besides, the original stories didn't lean towards a romantic angle either; some stuff is harder to adapt than others
Drawpinion Dump yeah, also sadly the existence of lgbt+ people is sadly considered a political/religious/controversial topic. So it’s sadly a risk that networks don’t want to take. Understandable, but sad.
Fun fact: a lot of the time us kids make accounts that say we’re 18 or in our pearly 20s
Yeah
Ha made you look also when I grow I wanna be bi
FINALLY someone talks about Kipo! Before Benson comes out you can't be like "oh he's gay", because he's just like anybody else!
My take from this video: Great that we are getting quite a bit of Lesbian representation, but we still have hang ups about gay men. Seriously there no male couples you could have talked about? I mean I can’t think of any and that’s kinda sad.
Truth be told the reason that a lot of people don't realize that there actually is very little representation of "GAY" men the only main gay relationships that are extremely memorable are clyde mcbride's dads from the loud house and Yuri and victor from Yuri on ice
ok ko had venomous/boxman but thats about it as far as i know
i mean she does mention benson but yeah he’s still only one example out of a few
Runaan and Ethari :)
The cops from gravity falls, Waylon Smithers from the simpsons, Craig and Tweak from south park, Greg and Terry from american dad, Angel dust from hazbin hotel, Willows Dad from the owl, the list goes on
One of my friends came out to the whole group as a lesbian but most of us already knew but just pretended like we didn’t. We mainly knew because we noticed that she would frequently talk about lgbtq anime/ shows and ask how we felt about the lgbtq couples. Luckily none of my friends had a negative reaction.
Honestly I feel like no one at my school is really homophobic or anything. I mean of course sometimes the some guys would make jokes about being gay but when they actually interacted with people in the lgbtq community they wouldn’t really bring attention to it or anything and if they thought they might of said something offensive they would immediately apologize.
I hear stories about some really toxic school environments and feel kind of lucky to go to a school where that isn’t the case. During this quarantine I’ve been left with a lot of time to think and am kind of feeling like I am bi. I have kissed a couple of girls before when I was younger (on the lips) but because I didn’t know what sexual orientation was I didn’t really think much of it.
Kipo sounds like the opposite of Undertale...
Ah hA
Now that you mention it
The opposite of undertale? How?
Aranza Izaguirre Because it was about inhuman creatures locking humans underground and a human escapes the underground to see them.
Undertale is about humans locking monsters underground and a human falls down from the surface to the monster world.
When Catra said "Heyyy Adora" for the first time, I already new
I recommended she-ra to my sister and she hated that Catra and Adora got together in the end. Like for her Catra was abusive towards Adora almost throughout the whole series, literally trying to kill her at times. She said that if this were a heterosexual or a het passing relationship, a lot of us would have more qualms with it. She said that when her daughter and her saw the scene, she reiterated that this was not okay because Catra had been too abusive/violent towards Adora.
people seem to overlook the abusive part bc theyre so excited about it being lesbian representation
Catra and Adora relationship might remind someone they own toxic relationship
I just finished the Banana Fish anime and I was so upset with the ending (not gonna spoil) but it only ended that unfortunately because the writer of it was not allowed to keep the relationship
banana fish rlly has the best mlm representation, and the ending is so sad and (even tho i love the ending) it’s kinda disappointing that it ended that way. but u have to keep in mind it was written in the 1980s by a woman ,,,
You can read more positive slice of life yaois. They're out there but unfortunately western media doesn't show them as much.
WHAT!??? YOU'RE TELLING ME I COULD'VE GOTTEN A HAPPY ENDING!?? BUT THEY DIDN'T LET HER KEEP THEM TOGETHER!??? I- WHAT!???
Try Given, slice of life with dome drama but happy ending
Me, at the librarian from Hilda: I just think their color pallette is neat :)
Silverior 968 oh yeah! I read the book and watched the show!
Ohhh is it because of the demigirl flag??? I never thought about that!
@@thelucifershimmy For me personally it was because the colours look like the ace flag, but the demigirl flag fits too
"dont you love it when cartoons are gay" this must be the best first line i ever heard, lmao
Is it just me or is anyone else really happy that Benson actually SAID he gay??? Like didn't beat around the bush, straight up said "gay"??? It's just??? So refreshing???
I never heard of danger and eggs. looks fun
it is fantastic and i love it
@@DrawpinionDump I'll go look for it. thanks
I watched it amazing
When he said "im gay" i actually wheezed-
the owl house has amazing wlw rep in my opinion (SPOILERS AHEAD)
over season one, we see a girl go from little miss perfect and kind of a bully to befriending the protagonist, to blushing when the protag hugs her, to being nervous about asking her to the dance (canonically her worst fear is being rejected by her) to 'oh! luz! you're here! I mean, of course you're here, this is school, and you go here now. with, uh, me. I've been talking for too long.'
also, the protag blushed when a boy winked at her, and then later in the episode she blushed when a girl said 'see you around, cutie'
in conclusion watch the owl house it's amazing, even outside of representation
I love the owl house!! I recently posted a video about it ^^
And I agree, it's amazing wlw rep!
There’s also a little bit of mlm rep in grom as well, in the background you can see two boys dancing together and blushing. It’s not outright stated they like each other but it seems implied :)
@@semidecent8008 yes also mlm!! I forgot about that. also willow has two dads!!
THE LITTLE MISS PERFECT ONE GOT ME OFF GUARD LMAO
Wanna see what happened with Reggie and her crush from 12 forever
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Craig of the Creek has two Non-Binary child characters!! Angel and the Secret Keeper. Also Craig’s older cousin Jasmine has a girlfriend, the Witches are dating, two other boys named Raj and Shawn are dating, and Laura (JP’s older sister) is a lesbian :>
I really gotta check that one out! Thanks for the tip :D
This is a wonderful channel
broo there’s like a cartoon/series thats called “the dragon prince” and there’s lgbtq people there and i love it
Same here! One of my favorite shows to date!
Same
Is it the one on Netflix ?
You can watch hazbin hotel if you are 18 + the main characters are gay and lesbian you can watch and see yourself like one of them is gay and other couple who is lesbian
@@angeldustforlife9060 yeah its the one on netflix and yes im aware of the hazbin hotel one
i cant believe no one’s talking about benson and troy 😭 they’re literally so cute
As a bisexual girl; personally I want to see more male representation in cartoons. We got a whole army of girl ship's, but our fellow homies are getting left out☹️
boys deserve love too
@@DrawpinionDump
Yes✨🥰
Have you watched ok k.o.? Prof. venomous is canonly bisexual and gets married to a pan character at the end and it's great. They're like my favorite lgbt couple because of how cute they are together and great parents to their new family lol
@@DrawpinionDump yess, I love that ok k.o. has a canonly bi/pan male couple and they are shown to be married at the end. They're my fav lgbt couple
So happy I found this channel
it's official: "Happiness for male characters is considered "gay".
I love this, ur channel is so underrated wtf