Hermitcraft 10 all member ages from oldest to youngest

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    Grian
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ความคิดเห็น • 995

  • @luenn2042
    @luenn2042 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4253

    Grian being older than Mumbo doesn't work in my brain.

    • @graphitebendy
      @graphitebendy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +186

      Yeah, it seems like it should be the other way around

    • @ElementX.
      @ElementX. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +165

      Yea I thought Mumbo must be in his late 30's , considering for how long he has been uploading vids for. that 28 doesnt feel real.

    • @NeonColored
      @NeonColored 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      he lives in a parallel universe where a year is longer and where physical aging is slower

    • @sn4cky_
      @sn4cky_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

      @@ElementX.he started when he was 16 I’m pretty sure

    • @JoshuaR.Collins
      @JoshuaR.Collins 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ikr

  • @diobrando6245
    @diobrando6245 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3568

    R.I.P TFC he was the oldest Hermits back then

    • @variablenine
      @variablenine 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

      I only recently got into hermitcraft halfway through season 9, who was TFC?

    • @diobrando6245
      @diobrando6245 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +631

      TFC or Tin Foil Chef was a hermit since season 2. He was well known to be the very definition of of "hermit", usually focused on his underground mining and build his base like it's 2015. He lost his leg due to operation.
      You can search his info in wiki and some of his videos in youtube trust me he's very sweet old man
      Edit: his age when his death was 60 something iirc

    • @killrade4434
      @killrade4434 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +352

      ​@@variableninehe was a true hermit and loyal to his fans all the way to the end. Right now he, Jellie and Bishop are watching all the other hermits from above.

    • @ClebyHerris
      @ClebyHerris 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      He was 60-80 I forget the exact number but he was a nice guy just old so a bit stranger

    • @savetheevo
      @savetheevo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      @@ClebyHerrisHe was 63

  • @GolfhausYT
    @GolfhausYT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2340

    Me: Huh, Docm and i are the same age.
    Also me: *realizes the significance of the 77 in his name for the first time ever*

    • @euler4273
      @euler4273 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +294

      Want to guess what the 85 means in Iskall's name?

    • @natalcap8181
      @natalcap8181 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      What does it mean???

    • @Caseofgames
      @Caseofgames 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@natalcap81811977

    • @Aquaboom123
      @Aquaboom123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      year of birth@@natalcap8181

    • @KryptonKrits
      @KryptonKrits 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

      ​@@natalcap8181ig it's his birth year (1977)

  • @tokenrl
    @tokenrl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3377

    the fact that Beef is only like 4 years older than Iskall, when Iskall messes with him about being "old" makes it so much funnier now

    • @VoidOperator
      @VoidOperator 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +142

      That really feels like 1 month older would be enough for Iskall to tease Beef

    • @GewoonEenNick
      @GewoonEenNick 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      iskall would make fun of beef even if beef was younger

    • @LuukBrouwers-ek7tp
      @LuukBrouwers-ek7tp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I never realised how much beef looks like his character

    • @draagax
      @draagax 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@VoidOperator 1 second older would be enough for Eee-skall...MAN

    • @mayurgawali18
      @mayurgawali18 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      only 4?

  • @travisdacon9480
    @travisdacon9480 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2448

    Fun fact: Tango is actually a 9000 year old incarnation of redstone-based evil and destructive mayhem.

    • @foreva4eva385
      @foreva4eva385 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      😂😂😂

    • @heylolp9
      @heylolp9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Tango is a Lich, his phylactery is Redstone Machines and Iron Farms

    • @JudeSewell
      @JudeSewell 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      He invented fire the wheel nukes and created the vikings

    • @CCKinnison
      @CCKinnison 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That's the Tangonificator Nine Thousand And ONE, thankyouverymuch. Can't forget the newest model! :D

    • @Exayevie
      @Exayevie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I about had a panic attack when they reached my age and I thought for a sec Tango might be younger than me 😅

  • @jaydenepicness
    @jaydenepicness 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2698

    I legit thought that most of them were like 10 years younger than they are

    • @DuckyBoi27
      @DuckyBoi27 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +127

      yes how is Bdubs 41 what the heck

    • @duncan_tdi_
      @duncan_tdi_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      i swear i was thinking Cubfan was 27 or 28 😅

    • @j_edwards6075
      @j_edwards6075 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +146

      Well when you take into account most of them have been playing for 15 years now... Kind of makes sense

    • @SillySyrup
      @SillySyrup 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

      I agree, excluding only Mumbo, who I thought was older.

    • @alexswan2975
      @alexswan2975 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same.😂😂

  • @Vaillle
    @Vaillle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +929

    Honestly the maturity of the majority of the server is what I appreciate so much about Hermitcraft. And what I mean specifically is how the relationships on the servers are kept healthy and the members behave respectfully and responsibly towards each other. They’re all adults, and they act like adults. And they keep it purely about the game, and leave everything else that’s unrelated and even arguably inappropriate out of it. Minecraft content is saturated by creators who are still like children themselves, and kids being idols and role models to other kids is not a great idea broadly speaking.
    Basically, once I found Hermitcraft and seen a lot of it, I fell in love with the positivity and peacefulness of it. It’s truly a safe haven from the craziness and immaturity of the majority of gaming content on TH-cam.

    • @Ak1ra.Nova_Teo
      @Ak1ra.Nova_Teo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      agreed honestly

    • @superigg_
      @superigg_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      never thought about it that way, but you are so sooooo right

    • @Lionhart-fw5nq
      @Lionhart-fw5nq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      agreed, exept that that doesnt necesserily have something to do with bodily-age. Mental Age is the deciding factor here. I know enogh old people who behave immature like children and i myself was rather mature from a young age (never done something "stupid" ect.)

    • @shhinysilver1720
      @shhinysilver1720 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I think they certainly are mature, but sometimes they just act so much like teenagers, which is probably why it’s so popular

    • @logicalminhas2521
      @logicalminhas2521 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Yup, they are as entertaining as teens while being mature enough to know what they are doing and what they are responsible for.
      Best minecraft server and community, in my opinion ​@shhinysilver1720

  • @KaiserTheDemon
    @KaiserTheDemon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +710

    These ages explain a lot of the chemistry between players - Scar, Grian, Mumbo, Joel, Gem, Pearl all being around the same late 20s early 30s age bracket makes SOOO much sense

    • @jessezhao7936
      @jessezhao7936 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Some age in the video is wrong, like Scar is in his 40s. Afterall, it's just content creators trying to have fun.

    • @DJHarriet-bp5ps
      @DJHarriet-bp5ps 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@jessezhao7936 The google thing is incorrect he maybe 32 or 24 or something.

    • @GeorgeMichaelsGirl
      @GeorgeMichaelsGirl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Jaymac720 Scar is 41, he was born in 1982

    • @coffee_catbean1409
      @coffee_catbean1409 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

      ​@@GeorgeMichaelsGirlscar already said the wiki is wrong because he didn't want to give out his real age to them when they mailed him a letter asking. And he said in a stream or something once that the wiki makes him atleast a decade or so older than what he actually is

    • @Jaymac720
      @Jaymac720 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@GeorgeMichaelsGirlI just realized that my math is wrong and I’m so embarrassed 😭😭😭. I’m not even sure I heard him right

  • @christiandevey3898
    @christiandevey3898 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +636

    Excuse me. Doc revealed in 2017 that he was born in 77 making him 1,946 years old

    • @riztiz
      @riztiz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      true

    • @JordanMetroidManiac
      @JordanMetroidManiac หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The math is still wrong, but sure. 👍

    • @ZombiekingLIVE
      @ZombiekingLIVE หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@JordanMetroidManiacHr was off by 1 year so they prob forgor it was 2024 or they just got off by 1

    • @harrycheng1340
      @harrycheng1340 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@ZombiekingLIVE He's actually right, Doc's b-day is July 5th, which means he does turn 1947 years old this year, but he's actually 1946 currently.

    • @MrRasmio
      @MrRasmio 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's 1977 bruh, if it's joke them either every one in reply is stupid, or you can't make jokes

  • @magnumbrahms5339
    @magnumbrahms5339 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1975

    damn these old mfers can still grind like teenagers. I can't even play a game for more than 1 hour now. respek

    • @animatedkanye
      @animatedkanye 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +180

      Well to be fair this is most of their jobs

    • @emiliaolfelt6370
      @emiliaolfelt6370 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +218

      I mean Gem was full time at college and did HC and Empires. I think people underestimate how hard she went, all at age like 25?
      I'm 27 now and that would literally kill me.

    • @frisco61
      @frisco61 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      “Old” at 47 in Doc’s case. I remember thinking like that 😂

    • @FDJUwe
      @FDJUwe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@emiliaolfelt6370 yeah, its so hard to study and play videogame, I've been doing it my whole life 😂

    • @sauravyelpula2993
      @sauravyelpula2993 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

      @@FDJUwe There's a difference between playing a game and making weekly videos on it. She must be recording a couple of hours for each video + editing. She was also going to college during this time. I think you're severely underestimating how hard she was working at that time. Kind of disrespectful tbh

  • @lordkaos31
    @lordkaos31 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1428

    Rendog being older than cub just doesn’t work in my brain.

    • @SillySyrup
      @SillySyrup 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Hard agree

    • @liamjanssens7014
      @liamjanssens7014 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why not?

    • @lordkaos31
      @lordkaos31 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

      @@liamjanssens7014 idk cub just sounds like an older guy while ren sounds like hes in his mid to late 20s. Doc being the oldest makes sense he definitely sounds older but i never thought he’d be almost 50.

    • @SillySyrup
      @SillySyrup 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      @@liamjanssens7014 Probably because, to put it simply, Ren has a sillier personality and therefore the commenter wouldn't expect him to have the experience of age

    • @kaktusgaming2219
      @kaktusgaming2219 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@lordkaos31Yeah, but Cub on the other hand looks very young

  • @j_edwards6075
    @j_edwards6075 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +751

    I think what most people forget is that the majority of them have been doing this for 15 years now. Not much of a surprise that they're as old as the video suggests. I've been watching them for 10 years now.

    • @hardyorange
      @hardyorange 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Maybe some of us also forget /we've/ been playing this game for almost 15 years now! I keep joking with my 9th graders that there's no way they were born in 2010, because that was only a few years ago, definitely less than five for sure...

    • @j_edwards6075
      @j_edwards6075 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hardyorange It sure feels like it was only a few years ago haha

    • @shroomian2739
      @shroomian2739 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hardyorangewait how *are* your ninth graders born in 2010? Wouldn’t they be the 2009 class?

    • @hardyorange
      @hardyorange 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@shroomian2739 We're a magnet school, so more than a few of our students have skipped a grade or were allowed to enroll in kindergarten early despite having a "late" birthday!

  • @supertinnietank
    @supertinnietank 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +625

    Had a real "old man" moment here... All the late thirties and forties "look normal" then gem and mumbo look like kids...

    • @P_I_G_G_A
      @P_I_G_G_A 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I guess when your job is ententainer (idk how to spell it) you remain the age you started playing in

    • @pvic6959
      @pvic6959 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      hehe and they are about my age! i turned 27 recently

    • @NeonColored
      @NeonColored 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@pvic6959 ayy me too! it was definitely a surprise to me that I'd *just* be the youngest hermit if I were to join them

    • @soffren
      @soffren 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Welsknight looks like a kid

    • @daradukem
      @daradukem 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@soffren Its a old photo

  • @ZackRing
    @ZackRing 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +314

    Scar was diagnosed with this illment around 17 and received Jelly. Jelly stayed by his sice for 17.5 years. This would make Scar 34~35.

    • @GeorgeMichaelsGirl
      @GeorgeMichaelsGirl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Scar is 41

    • @riztiz
      @riztiz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      ​@@GeorgeMichaelsGirlNo he's not lmao

    • @coffee_catbean1409
      @coffee_catbean1409 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

      ​@@GeorgeMichaelsGirlscar mentioned a few times already that wiki makes him a decade or so older than what he actually is since he didn't want to answer the mail from wiki asking his real age.

    • @frostyfly31122
      @frostyfly31122 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      scar mentioned in impulse's stream that he is born in 82@@riztiz

    • @frostyfly31122
      @frostyfly31122 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      check ur math, its 2024@@Jaymac720

  • @SolitaryGrave143
    @SolitaryGrave143 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +550

    When Mumbo turned 19, Tango said that he was at least twice his age. That was about eight or nine years ago, so I would estimate Tango's age to be around 46-47.

    • @ddandymann
      @ddandymann 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +149

      We also know from the Imp & Skizz pod that he's about the same age as Skizz

    • @j_edwards6075
      @j_edwards6075 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Was gonna say something like that too. I remember seeing a stream of Tango's back in late 2014 when season 3 started and he looked to be in his mid 30's then.

    • @stevena105
      @stevena105 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      Tango being listed as an unknown really surprised me.

    • @upisntdownsilly
      @upisntdownsilly 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      honestly i thought they just forgot tango until the end, i guess its just never been confirmed, but i swear i remember hearing from somewhere quite recently about him being almost 50

    • @CCKinnison
      @CCKinnison 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      Well, Mumbo has a known age of 27 now. so 8 years ago, Tango was 36+. Ergo, he is at least 44... which is Skizz's age. That tracks on all the known reference points, with a possible couple extra years tacked on.

  • @SillySyrup
    @SillySyrup 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +454

    Gem now being 27 is a prime example of how scary it is that we are all getting old. Gem said in a HCS9 stream to Tango, "I'm so old - I'm almost 30! I'm practically dead!" Even though Gem is still young compared to the other hermits, it's a bit sad that times are passing. Gem being in her 30s simply cannot compute in my mind. Similarly, the following also apply: Xisuma being 40, Iskall being 40, and Doc being 50. All of this has really put into perspective for me how old I am getting and how quickly times are passing, and I'm reminded and happy to savor every moment.

    • @Darlypants
      @Darlypants 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      I don't know man, you sound really young.
      Something about "these kids today" and their intensely skewed idea of aging. Acting like their life ends at 30. You might be on this planet for 90 years, and kids act like it's over at 30.
      The only thing that happens as you get older is you realize how dumb you were in your 20s, and how much worthless stock you put into things that don't matter.... like "turning 30"
      Life is good. All of it.. not just the part at the beginning.

    • @SillySyrup
      @SillySyrup 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Darlypants I actually agree with you - all of life is good, which is why I concluded my comment with "I'm happy to savor every moment." I wasn't saying that it's over at 30 - I was using the idea of Hermits, particularly Gem, getting older than I'm used to, to say that, as I age, I need to enjoy life as it comes a bit more (as I said, savoring every moment). I honestly apologize for not clarifying this, but when I said "times are passing," I meant the entirety of my life, not that reaching a certain age would invalidate my ability to enjoy. I admit that my not mentioning this is an oversight. I am fairly young, so I've (hopefully and ideally) got a lot of time left in my life as a whole.

    • @bam3xs
      @bam3xs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@SillySyrup One thing that helped me put age and life in a different perspective was not thinking in years, but in weeks. I'm 35 now, so 1800 weeks have passed. Average life expectancy in Germany is about 80 years, so 4160 weeks, meaning I have about 2300 weeks left. Somehow this number resonates much more with me then 45 years. It tells me, every week is valuable and I shouldn't waste too many of them. But at the same time, If I spend 4 weeks doing nothing, I still have a lot left

    • @andrevandervlies5700
      @andrevandervlies5700 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Darlypants It's not so much "kids these days" but kids in general. It felt like a lifetime when I turned 25. Then one day I blinked my eyes and now I'm 50. Young people go through so much learning, development and experiences that they perceive the passage of time differently.

    • @Darlypants
      @Darlypants 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@andrevandervlies5700 I sure hear that. I don't want to spook the children, but at my age months go by in a week. Years go by like seasons.

  • @eduardorosa6239
    @eduardorosa6239 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +210

    I've heard that Tango is between 1 and 100 years old. Cannot confirm though.

    • @mollof7893
      @mollof7893 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      He's actualy -14⅔
      Source: I made it up.

    • @ZPND_Gamer100
      @ZPND_Gamer100 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mollof7893 nuh uh

    • @FauneSawyer
      @FauneSawyer หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@mollof7893 really? I've always thought he was at least -15

    • @ZPND_Gamer100
      @ZPND_Gamer100 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FauneSawyer ur such an idio-
      (joke)

    • @SramCytryna122_
      @SramCytryna122_ 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@FauneSawyer bro stop spreading missinformation, hes 3 hours old 👎👎👎👎🤬🤬🤬

  • @alexp.288
    @alexp.288 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    The great thing about Hermitcraft is that a lot of its members are just someone's very cool parent

    • @pyxiwulf
      @pyxiwulf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My 22 year old “so much this!”

    • @teresar6348
      @teresar6348 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Several of them have school age children and it feels so strange when you imagine em so much younger.

  • @turkeycooktime458
    @turkeycooktime458 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +420

    xB is at least 34, we know that because Famous Birthdays incorrectly lists him as being born in 2000, but he has confirmed he is at least 10 years older.

    • @ZacharyMellinger
      @ZacharyMellinger 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Seriously? Why would they lie. If that's the case, I would be younger than any of the current hermits.

    • @SillySyrup
      @SillySyrup 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      I agree, as they have mentioned before that Gem is the youngest Hermit.

    • @MrDoge-ik2sr
      @MrDoge-ik2sr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      yeahh they do that a lot like i was watching scar's stream in s8 and he said that he is not 39 at the time cuz famous bdays mailed him asking his age and he refused to tell so they just assumed by their own and added it.

    • @turkeycooktime458
      @turkeycooktime458 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      @@SillySyrup Pearl is actually 22 days younger than Gem

    • @noatmealcookie02
      @noatmealcookie02 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ZacharyMellinger > 'why would they lie?'
      You talk about a website that in revenge put Scar's age like 10 years more than he actually is, just because he refused to give them his personal info (actual age)
      You can't trust anyone on the internet

  • @just_space_
    @just_space_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +197

    Wait Doc is the oldest now? Damn.. Rest in Peace TFC ❤

    • @rfresa
      @rfresa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tango might be older I think. Hard to be sure.

    • @tsdk107
      @tsdk107 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rfresa There's references between Impulse, Tango, and Skizz that they're very close in age to each other, especially since the Imp & Skizz podcast began, they've become much more open about their backgrounds and personal lives.
      It's somewhere in the comments that during the early seasons of HC, Tango stated he was about twice the age of Mumbo at the time who had just turned 19.

  • @katofffel4387
    @katofffel4387 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +358

    Cleo surprised me the most

    • @-inFinity05-
      @-inFinity05- 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Really? She was one of the only ones I guessed correctly.

    • @ZacharyMellinger
      @ZacharyMellinger 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      ​@@-inFinity05-I thought she was in her early to mid 30s, I thought Pearl was the oldest girl.

    • @milesparker557
      @milesparker557 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@ZacharyMellinger did you mistype or did you actually think *Pearl* was the oldest when she and Gem are literally the youngest ones 😂

    • @Sgrunterundt
      @Sgrunterundt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      I had Cleo pretty much right. She was talking with JoeHills in a previous season about culture refferences and some newer hermits (maybe Pearl and Gem) not getting them, and a quote along the lines of "they are kids" was uttered.

    • @milesparker557
      @milesparker557 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      ​@@-inFinity05-same. I feel like she's one of the hermits who acts most their age. The only other one I could've guessed was Keralis since I used to watch him 10 years ago and I knew he had to be at least in his 30s back then.

  • @Activation123
    @Activation123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +212

    rip tfc man. still a hermit to me

    • @hydracdxv
      @hydracdxv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      😢

    • @sauravyelpula2993
      @sauravyelpula2993 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Always will be a Hermit

    • @grondhero
      @grondhero 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My favorite Hermit. ⛏

  • @VeryShrimple
    @VeryShrimple 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

    Grian being older than Mumbo doesn't work in my brain, Mumbo just seems like the older wiser one

    • @dokkis_island
      @dokkis_island 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Probably because Mumbo has been part of Hermitcraft longer

    • @Densema
      @Densema 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      To be honest, I thought the same initially but then if u think a little deeper, there are many situations in which Mumbo feels like kinda socially awkward and doesn't really know how and stuff, where Grian seems to be more mature and chill with himself and stuff happening, so in a way wiser than Mumbo. I know what you mean, but I guess this comes more from Grian being as mischievous as he is, but that's not an age thing in my books

    • @Densema
      @Densema 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Also Mumbo knew what he wanted very early in his life, so I guess that's why he seems to be older in a way?

    • @alanlafond9705
      @alanlafond9705 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Wiser? He's always acting so goofy and derpy, not wise!! 😅
      I think it's the suit that's tricking you. 😂

    • @VeryShrimple
      @VeryShrimple 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@alanlafond9705 that suit and mustache deceive me

  • @bakuscout
    @bakuscout 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +137

    It’s scary seeing that I’m within 5 years of both Grian and Mumbo, I grew up watching those guys

    • @beamshooter
      @beamshooter 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I'm 25 and I was sure Gem was younger than me 😂😂

  • @miniciominiciominicio
    @miniciominiciominicio 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

    Pearl is younger than Gem. They were both born in 1996. Gem was born first in May. Pearl was the last hermit to be born in June.
    Tango is either the same age or older than Impulse.

    • @aoarashi3025
      @aoarashi3025 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Weren't Gem and Pearl born in 1996?

    • @miniciominiciominicio
      @miniciominiciominicio 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@aoarashi3025 Yes. My bad. Thanks for the correction. I mixed it up with their ages of 27.

  • @KyleKazama
    @KyleKazama 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    this is one of the reason i love hermitcraft, it just a show of a bunch of people in their 30 doing goofy stuff.

  • @kulkuljator
    @kulkuljator 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    I did not expect Mumbo to be this young

    • @Hufflepuff_cookie
      @Hufflepuff_cookie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Yeah, he joined HC when he was 19

    • @Gouda4Me
      @Gouda4Me 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same I expected him to be in his mid 30s

    • @alida6365
      @alida6365 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought he was younger than he is

  • @risinghonor7
    @risinghonor7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    The fact mumbos only 28 is wild be feels like a chill 36

    • @alanlafond9705
      @alanlafond9705 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bear in mind Mumbo was a teenager when he joined Hermitcraft. And I'm pretty sure the ONLY Hermit to have been invited before adulthood.

  • @Annabrownmedia_
    @Annabrownmedia_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

    tango has young to teenage kids, and i am guessing if he and his wife didn't have kids when they got married tango is around 35 to 45

    • @katofffel4387
      @katofffel4387 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      I'm guessing that he is around the same age as impulse and skizz

    • @adrianpaulochoa9825
      @adrianpaulochoa9825 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Tango should be around 5+ or 5- years from Impulse's age, so id say a far assumption would be to say either early 40s or late 30s but could also be going into the 45s

    • @coreosad2261
      @coreosad2261 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Pretty sure it was mentioned on the imp and skizz podcast that Tango and Skizz were similar in age

    • @Crystal-fy7ml
      @Crystal-fy7ml 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's very close, Tango is actually 49.

    • @didi81_
      @didi81_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Crystal-fy7ml he's not 49

  • @HerculePyro
    @HerculePyro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Why does ren look like he advertises mens beauty products on daytime tv?

  • @witchykittyy
    @witchykittyy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Grian being two years younger than me feels like a personal attack

  • @pandarosfaolanexcelsior3551
    @pandarosfaolanexcelsior3551 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    In a Phasmo-Stream Impulse made fun of Skizz for being old. Even though they're close to each other they were born in different generations (Gen X and Gen Y I think). Seeing that they're only two years apart makes this even funnier

  • @Sam-pm9vy
    @Sam-pm9vy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    The fact you actually got Scar’s age as accurate as you can based on what can be pieced together instead of the crap the internet claims **chef’s kiss**

    • @noatmealcookie02
      @noatmealcookie02 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Agreed!
      ...but people still will think our hot guy is in his 40s 😭
      /not saying you can't be a hot guy being 40s/

  • @YukiTheOkami
    @YukiTheOkami 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    u know how u hear a voice of someone and u only hear the voice and then someday u see their face and style and u are like wtf thats not fiting
    i got that with keralis XD hes not looking bad but his voice is kinda high and friendly and i never would imagine a bearded man that age

  • @justjoe5373
    @justjoe5373 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    People tend to forget that some of these people have been making YT videos for over 10 years. If they were early 20s then makes sense they'd be early to mid 30s now
    RIP TFC

  • @bucketofcereal3711
    @bucketofcereal3711 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    i cannot accept the fact that joehills is 37 years old. dude looks 22

    • @Hopppp
      @Hopppp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      tbf they used an old picture lol, he does facecam streams now and he definitely doesn't look like that anymore

    • @natestadler2352
      @natestadler2352 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If Joehills was 22 now he would have joined HC at like 10 years old. He's an OG

  • @RainMakeR_Workshop
    @RainMakeR_Workshop 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I had no idea so many of them were in their 40's. I knew Doc and Bdubs are, but most of the other I thought were in their 30's.

  • @pandarosfaolanexcelsior3551
    @pandarosfaolanexcelsior3551 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    This video is a painful reminder TFC isn't with us anymore...

  • @draagax
    @draagax 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Anytime I see Pearl's RL face, I'm just like "yup, i can see the goofiness hidden behind those eyes, YOU CAN'T FOOL ME"
    As for Top (Tango), while we don't know his exact age, I'm fairly certain he's in his 40's not far off from Skizz and Dippledot (Impulse).

  • @Deter3DnD
    @Deter3DnD 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I believe Tango has confirmed he is at least "close" in age to Impulse and Skizz.

  • @fumbyboop
    @fumbyboop หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Grian being in the younger half makes so much sense with how chobblesome he is

  • @alinkinthechain
    @alinkinthechain 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This makes me, a man in his 30s, really feel good. I appreciate their styles and the content they produce, and they've definitely inspired some of my own minecraft work

    • @ninja_tony
      @ninja_tony 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Me too man. I’m 38, and just started playing Minecraft during the pandemic. I always thought it was just a kids game, and a lot of that was due to the younger channels on TH-cam that are geared toward kids content to begin with. If I had known about Hermitcraft a lot sooner, I would have been a fan immediately. One of the reasons I think I love it so much is because so many of the hermits are around my age.

  • @Starhunter1975
    @Starhunter1975 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    Etho is older, he even said his age a few times but no one picked it up.

    • @petra._
      @petra._ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      do you know how old?

    • @Phalcon777
      @Phalcon777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      No I think Etho is 37 if I remember correctly I'm pretty sure he's the same age as me I just remembered somewhere in one of his episodes he mentioned it and or something I could be wrong with that sticks in my head

    • @clarehidalgo
      @clarehidalgo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      @@petra._ Based on Gem talking about being a fan of his when she was 16 and now being around the age he was when she was watching him back then, he's at least 10 years older then her

    • @Starhunter1975
      @Starhunter1975 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      43​@@petra._

    • @LethalChicken77
      @LethalChicken77 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I think in one of his really old tech videos he mentioned he was 9 in 1996 or something

  • @clarehidalgo
    @clarehidalgo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    You have Pearl and Gem switched, Gem is a little over 2 weeks older than Pearl. It was revealed in Empires SMP season 1durring "Who's the weakest empire?" game show Smallishbeans ran

  • @shavranotheferanox7809
    @shavranotheferanox7809 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The fact that they get along as if they are just a group of 25 - to 30 year olds just shows how little age really matters to these guy's friendships. They just enjoy playing together

  • @toasty8432
    @toasty8432 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Now I don't feel so bad being a 42 y/o Hermitcraft fan. Also pretty sure Tango is same age as Impulse.

  • @jamjam1
    @jamjam1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Now do heights! I wanna see Bdub's reaction lol

  • @myrandamiller91
    @myrandamiller91 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Gem is older than Pearl by a few months according to them. They've talked about it on stream.

    • @lukeandliz
      @lukeandliz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Barely a month, older by 25 days

  • @dark_galaxyy
    @dark_galaxyy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Doc being the oldest was a plot twist for me

  • @williamswilliams213
    @williamswilliams213 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    grian being older than mumbo messes with my brain

  • @psuedonymph882
    @psuedonymph882 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Learning that these people are close to my age is making me so happy

  • @molly_the_spy7414
    @molly_the_spy7414 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Is it just me or is every hermit over the age of 40 super hot?

    • @zara_hill
      @zara_hill หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      just you bae! 😜😝🎀🫃🎀🤪❤️❤️❤️

  • @jasonbuckelew6250
    @jasonbuckelew6250 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Hypno’s age make me spit out my drink

    • @aefinn
      @aefinn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I definitely though he would be about the same age as Docm

    • @didi81_
      @didi81_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have no idea how they got that number bc I'm fairly sure he never revealed his age

  • @MechaMantis1607
    @MechaMantis1607 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Being 20 and now knowing there ages is quite interesting to say the least

    • @Ixarus6713
      @Ixarus6713 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Same, turning 20 in a month or two and it's crazy. I've been watching Mumbo and Grian for a good... 9 years or something now. Time flies huh?
      I've been putting it off but I really ought to watch the other hermits and their series, I must miss out on so much stuff just watching the two. 😂😮

    • @lukeandliz
      @lukeandliz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Can be inspiring honestly, to know that some of these guys and gals being early to mid 40s, really shows it's never too late to chase a dream

  • @loopyfruit9715
    @loopyfruit9715 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There's something so wholesome about them all being older! Just a group of adults loving a game together ❤

  • @CarolineLurks
    @CarolineLurks 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It was as expected. 43 myself and I have been following Hermitctaft for many years, despite never having played Minecraft myself 😂😊

  • @itzHasdey
    @itzHasdey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    mumbo look like a realy high quality fanart

    • @KubickQ
      @KubickQ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because he’s a cinematographer, probably

  • @Forgottenmelon
    @Forgottenmelon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    no wonder the server so chill

  • @laurendeau91
    @laurendeau91 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I... feel a lot better about where I am with my life right now. Seeing how old these folks are just made me feel like I'm not too late to start something

  • @alida6365
    @alida6365 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Everyone else was as expected but Cleo being 42 is crazy! I thought she was late 20s or early 30s!

  • @gastonEGGS
    @gastonEGGS 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    mumbo is only 28?!?
    Also i keep forgetting that Grian is old and also married.

    • @hugeadrian6901
      @hugeadrian6901 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      This is insane to me considering that he started this when he was a teen and has been doing this for 15 years

  • @Sophia-bk8og
    @Sophia-bk8og 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I love how team zits consists of 3 old men and zedaph who is about 10 years younger than them but somehow acts older

  • @yusaki8064
    @yusaki8064 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I mean based on the fact that on the Imp and Skizz podcast Xisuma said that he had never confirmed his age. I’m doubting the facts on a lot of these. Especially the other ones without faces (Cleo and Etho). We can take guesses like you did with Scar and your guesses probably aren’t super far off. But definitely not accurately

    • @cuttlefishonfire7502
      @cuttlefishonfire7502 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I've seen Cleo mention her age a couple times, so that one's accurate. I don't know where most of the other ones come from though.

  • @chevronlily
    @chevronlily 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This is the first time I have seen Doc's face and he looks exactly how I would have imagined.

    • @alanlafond9705
      @alanlafond9705 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He has a few videos where he shows himself live. One I've watched was for the Minecraft creator summit in Stockholm, another where he toured a WWII era submarine that was setup as a museum piece.
      Also, Iskall joined Doc for a little while in the summit video, and you can also see Grian at the summit, on the same elevator Doc takes at one point. Of course, this summit was before Grian joined Hermitcraft, so they didn't really know each other yet at that time. BigB was also there, but not in Doc's video. You see him hanging out with Grian a bit in Grian's video from that summit.

    • @Herr_Errick
      @Herr_Errick 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That picture of Doc is probably some years old. He started streaming again on the Weekends. You can see his face on Twitch now.

  • @rasmusroxor
    @rasmusroxor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    wow.. the fact that grian is 30... he acts 12 :o

    • @Max-zo6rv
      @Max-zo6rv หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🤡

  • @studygirlmilly
    @studygirlmilly 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    im 16 and mumbo being 17 when he joined hermitcraft..... i need to get on the grind LOL

  • @arttukettunen5757
    @arttukettunen5757 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Even if many of these have been doing youtube for years, I would still think most of them would be 5-10 years younger.

  • @nonik34
    @nonik34 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Its crazy that the age difference between doc and Gem is almost 20 years

  • @Petermabbutt
    @Petermabbutt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Tango is a similar age to impulse. They mention 1 is a year or two older than the other when talking about their drumming in college.

    • @aefinn
      @aefinn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are mixing Tango with Skizz. Impulse and Skizz drummed in college, not Tango. But I agree he is around their age.

  • @didi81_
    @didi81_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Pearl is the youngest hermit, she's a month younger than Gem. Also idk where the ages for Etho and Hypno came from but I doubt those are correct

    • @TheMUFFINATOR1000
      @TheMUFFINATOR1000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If I recall, Vintagebeef said he was 5 years older than Etho, so it’s probably accurate +/-1 year, depending on how the birthdays work out

    • @KubickQ
      @KubickQ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There are so many routes to Etho’s age people have found

  • @annlee9152
    @annlee9152 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Tango and XB are Eldridge Beings! Because their ages are yet to be Confermed

  • @Maria-vg6nr
    @Maria-vg6nr หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ren, bdubs, and doc are just gorgeous. i love them with all my heart fr.

  • @idlekitty-tj3111
    @idlekitty-tj3111 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Knowing the oldest is younger then my parents well I'm younger then any hermit was a shock, also make me realize how old my parents are

    • @tweer64
      @tweer64 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same

    • @upisntdownsilly
      @upisntdownsilly 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      its quite normal really, imma be honest the oldest is younger than my parents, and im a decade away from being 27

  • @cimarronMC
    @cimarronMC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I dont recall etho every revealing his exact age, at least not that i can remember, im sure hes given us generic ideas but no set age

    • @miniciominiciominicio
      @miniciominiciominicio 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He gave us his age in a 2011 video. But since we don’t know what month his birthday is in, he could have turned 24 before he made that video or he would’ve turned 25 if his birthday was after. This means he’s 36 turning 37, 37, or 37 turning 38.

    • @Orchider
      @Orchider 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think someone said he was 6 years younger than Bdubs in a UHC video

  • @DrDingsGaster
    @DrDingsGaster หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man, I've never seen Cub's face until now but it really fits with his voice!

  • @jugstery
    @jugstery 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would assume tango is in his 40s considering that he is good irl friends with Impulse and Skizz.

  • @LunaMizer
    @LunaMizer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is so cool, but Scar's birthday is Aug. 19th, 1982. He's 41.

    • @theBumblingBudgie
      @theBumblingBudgie 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Scar has said in a stream that the wiki got it wrong and that he's not 40s, also he said he got Jellie (RIP) when he was 17 and she lived for 17.5 years meaning he's 34-35

  • @cassiuspeter9673
    @cassiuspeter9673 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never forget what life took from us.
    RIP, Tinfoilchef. Formerly the oldest hermit.

  • @LowkeyLoki16
    @LowkeyLoki16 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this just made me realise how long i've been watching hermitcraft, coulda sworn a bunch of em were still in their early 20s and 30s like they were when i started watching them (also the fact that some of em are less than a decade older than me was a shock to the system)

  • @iimuffinsaur
    @iimuffinsaur หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ngl this makes me feel better about getting older. You can still be goofy and have fun with friends no matter ur age

  • @tayamanan
    @tayamanan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To all who think Scar is 41 because Google says he is. We know Scars is roughly 33-36 because he got Jellie when he was 16-17. (She was a gift when he got sick.) Jellie was 17.5 years old when she passed.
    16+17=33, 17+17=34
    16+18=35 17+18=36.

  • @Star_Licker
    @Star_Licker 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Not gonna lie, Doc’s picture kinda rocked my world a bit 😂

  • @niqchus
    @niqchus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    tbh i thought every hermit was like in their 30's
    turns out they're all older than me.
    actually feels wild rn (i'm 25 lmao)

  • @mommatina8295
    @mommatina8295 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I now feel better. I was playing role-playing games when I was their ages, (actually, I was in my 20's.) I never stopped till I had my son and I would probably still be playing but I'm an hour away from those I played with.

  • @mumtrz
    @mumtrz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Keralis with all that grey hair at 43 really shows the Nordic blood is real

  • @Chlrintruc
    @Chlrintruc หลายเดือนก่อน

    TFC was the oldest ever. At 63 he died while also having a plethora of health issues. Leaving the server at season 9. R.I.P old man you were so cool.

  • @NickAndriadze
    @NickAndriadze 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember back in Season 6 Mumbo was talking about how he was the youngest hermit and he still couldn't believe that that was the case... And it *was* the case for pretty long until those two rascals joined that are both a year younger than him XD
    Also I love how for all the members we don't know the faces of you just included their Minecraft characters, nice touch.

  • @manbehindthedesk43
    @manbehindthedesk43 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    damn so thats why Cleo has wine aunt vibes
    or is that just me lmaoo

  • @CozyMiel
    @CozyMiel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loving that Grian and I are the same age. All the chaos!!!

  • @Ivnhoe21
    @Ivnhoe21 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Omg I been following for almost 8 years and it shocked me. I remember when some of these were in their mid 20s, we getting old 😭😭😭

  • @melonmode4128
    @melonmode4128 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gem is only 4 years older than me? Wow. Pretty cool to be honest though, shows that even some youngsters like me can make it on TH-cam. I imagine she was watching other Hermits years ago in school/college like I was. I got into Hermitcraft thanks to Beef, Etho, Doc and Bdubs, since they were originally from Mindcrack, which I watched a lot.

  • @Rodj71
    @Rodj71 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well, I am in my 50s and playing the game here. I definitely can say maturity adds so much to the Minecraft experience. The community you build up is as important, if not more important, than the gameplay itself, and most definitely enhances it.

  • @klaus.sfc01official30
    @klaus.sfc01official30 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Who would have guess that Zombie Cleo, Etho and XBcrafted look like that in real life!?

  • @hahahe767
    @hahahe767 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    knowing the age gap between grian mumbo scar and doc makes season 9’s rivalry storyline EVEN BETTER 😂😂😂

  • @terminatorams8893
    @terminatorams8893 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    From what i've heard, tango is about as old as impulse, perhaps a bit younger. In the imp and skizz podcast it was mentioned they were close in age.

  • @liverpoolguy2810
    @liverpoolguy2810 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another great vid

  • @duhby
    @duhby 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    how fitting that JoeHill's picture is him on a hill

  • @Kevroa1
    @Kevroa1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I did not expect doc to be the oldest and now It has just occurred to me that the 77 in his name is his birth year lol

  • @lexihaley2887
    @lexihaley2887 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm only 36 seconds into this but as a 43-year-old I am so pleased to find out there's such an age variety! (edit i.e. not only younger by half folks (who themselves obviously have done nothing wrong;))

  • @sascha2728
    @sascha2728 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I´ve been scrolling through the comments, and I see many people talk about how they´re around the same ages as the Hermits.. I wonder how many younger viewers there are.. I personally don´t know anyone else who watches Hermitcraft. It makes me feel so young, which I know I am seen through eyes of people older than me.
    I´m 21 btw, turning 22 this year 🤗
    Grian was the Hermit that made me start watching Hermitcraft since I´ve been watching his channel for a while before he joined, so when he did in season 6 I automatically started watching it as well and through him interacting with the others I started watching a few of their POVs as well.