Again, with freedom of religion, it makes me angry that she isn't allowed to contact her kids. Every Mother, who is not endangering her kids physically or psychologically, should have a custody rights to their children.
Not necessarily custody rights but seriously, at least there should be shared custody. When my ex and I split we worked it out ourselved with one weekend each and he gets a day a week as well. So we are on a 4-8 program pretty much. And when I want to go out a day I rely on him when he is available rather than others. My mom is my backup. Even in a really bad divorce you should be obligated to honor everyones parental rights. Only violence and abuse is reason to forfeit parental rights.
They get them pregnant early so by the time they realize what was done to them its too late to escape and they are dependant on the cult for a livelihood.
seerpou I live next to a huge Satmar community. I was sitting in a doctor’s waiting room, and began a conversation with a Hasidic man who appeared my age. I have two grandchildren; he had more than 40. And they’re all on welfare. It’s incredible.
@@wotan10950 hmmm, I thought they were proud citizens and proud Jews and they support each other like no other community! I hope we just know one small side of the story, I mean anyone can be in welfare if needed, no problem. But it's difficult for me to think of a Jew in welfare... I'm learning stuff.
@@uzzymuzzy4312 Finding "The WAY, The TRUTH, and The LIFE" - it is NOT a religion, but it is the only way to go. "Tune in" and Your Creator will REVEAL Himself to you, in the intimacy of your own heart. Suddenly, everything will start making sense like NEVER before! God is very Real!
I feel like it's a bit different. Afghanistan and Saudia Arabia are KNOWN for a constant abuse of women where as with these Jewish communities they don't usually physically abuse their wives or kids. In other words these Jewish women have A LITTLE more "freedom" if you will. Is it good..no, but I see other communities as WAY more abusive than these Jewish communities. Afghanistan and Saudia Arabia marry off their daughters before even hitting puberty where as, although young, Jewish communities don't do that, even orthodox Jews.
I totally understand her pain. I lost custody of my son in an abusive situation because the father's parents have a lot of money and are willing to spend it, but I don't have the resources or support to protect my son or myself. My 4-year old is growing up without a mother who loves and adores him with all of her heart because of the abuse. I haven't seen him in over 2 years. I have nightmares every single night about this, and I wake up to continually find that the nightmare is real. There is nothing that I can do to save my son becausee my hands are tied. I know he is growing up in an abusive situation, and that abuse is normalized in his upbringing--but I can't save or protect him, I tried to, but that just made the abuse worse. I even went to jail for standing up to abuse. I know that I'm not alone in having a child in abusive circumstances, and that I'm not the only victim of legal child custody abuse, and I appreciate those who are able to come forward to bring light to these situations. Whatever criticism and backlash that this fellow mom receives, I understand what she's going through, and I know it's not her fault. If she or I could open a magic door and make everything right, I know that we both would.
When protective mothers allege that their children are being abused by the father, the courts punish the mother and give the abusive father sole custody 90% of the time; particularly when it's allegations of sexual abuse. They render the protective mother childless, penniless, and homeless. The Family Court system is diabolical, evil, and incredibly corrupt. This is done with the help of GAL's, forensic evaluators, attorneys, CPS etc. This is a systemic censored pandemic that is happening all across the US. MSM will not cover these horrors. No child is safe.
Please call your governments social service and explain the situation ask them to visit your son regularly to ensure that the abuse is minimized. Please apply for visitation so you stay in contact with your child.
I'm so sorry. This culture isn't really any different from the "orthodox community" In our culture, the court takes children away from their mothers and places them with the person who has the most money even if they are abusive. They don't care about the children. The judge cares about pleasing the blood sucking lawyers that they are buddies with.
This type of abuse should be illegal. These children are deprived from a proper education, and the tools needed to live full lives. This happens with the Amish too. It should be illegal. A right to religious freedom should not overpower the right to the pursuit of happiness. Without education and tools, and being forced to stay there, there are no choices. The options are not there. To me, this functions as a cult. It should be outlawed. It also gives a bad name to Judaism, which is a beautiful religion when not used to basically inflict trauma into new generations.
@@tonyhsloanejr So True. To call these extremists a Jewish community is an insult to the Jewish faith and people. They are nothing more that a cult. In fact they meet most of the basic criteria that defines a cult.
Yeah, it's basically a cult. So much of it makes no sense at all: the women have to shave off their own hair only to wear a wig made of... human hair ??? (I wonder where the hair came from?). And the way they scrubbed the female faces from their children's 'educational' material? That's messed up.
@@dwstudio899 agreed they're a cult I think the hair for the wigs come from women in eastern Europe for the most part as they want "white" hair vs getting it from India or Asia.
Maldives Baby every woman who comes up with a story like that is either very attention sick or she haven't experience an normal life And before you draw any conclusion you have to investigate the other side also, and i invite you to come to Williamsburg Brooklyn or other hasidic places to see with ur Owen eyes, ( that's only if u whanto now the truth)
+Nathan s.: "every woman who comes up with a story like that is either very attention sick or she haven't experience an normal life" ==Perhaps her hassidic community is different than yours. She says she had 7 kids in 7 years. That is not normal. "In fact no body of our community is threatening any one, check out the statistics" ==Feel free to provide them.
@@louistournas120 I am also from the Hasidic community. I could assure you, that the majority of the community doesn't have the type of experience she unfortunately had, in fact there are many people that are on birth control (of course it depends on the individual for how long etc.) So just because she had this experience it doesn't make the whole community bad. BTW even though I feel bad for her. I am sure that there is another side of the story.
I Don't Know Why She could've Divorced Her Husband and get full custody of the kids, I would Divorced my Husband and Get Full Custody of the Kids, Because The Court Favors On The Mother, and My Ex-Husband will only have Supervised Visitation Rights to see them, It'll be at the courthouse under the watchful eyes of a social worker, I'll have the social worker take notes or tape recorded what they did, like talking, drawing pictures, playing games, reading a book, I would have books be checked out at a library that would be near the courthouse, and I would also have food brought over to them, so that He won't be allowed to take them out to eat, also he'll only spent one holiday with them and that would be Halloween.
@@kathymoriarty1441 she wanted a divorce initially thats how the court case started. The courts in their community do not favor the mother as she was letting her children watch non religious movies and books. They posted flyers all over the neighborhood painting her as a bad parent for our and wanting a divorce. They were more in favor of the husband as he was stricter with the religion. She then wanted to leave the community and fought for custody for her children but lost them because the courts they went through was religious and in favor of their community rather than the children's well-being.
I saw the documentary. No one should lose their financial security, their ability to take care of their children, and be so browbeat that they give up, nor should they be abused by the husband and the community. The courts need to not favor a religious type cult over a mother or father. Having 7 children from 18 to 26 is harmful to the body, she probably suffered from post partum depression.
foxibot: I don't know the details of the story but I think that it's unfair to attach a whole group and call them a cult when we don't know the other side. I will actually go further and say that even if she was 100% in the right and there were 500 more of such stories that would not reflect the entire population if the hassidic community. there are thousands of hassidics out there and that percent can be found anywhere
She looks a lot better from the documentary "one of us" was made. Good for her. Wishing her all the happiness and best as her life and she continues to grow.
Lara Hayes I don’t know which Wikipedia you’ve been reading. Wikipedia: Mayim Chaya Bialik was born on December 12, 1975, in San Diego, California, to Barry and Beverly (née Winkleman) Bialik.Her family were Jewish immigrants, and three of her four grandparents migrated from Poland, Czechoslovakia, and Hungary.Bialik was raised as a Reform Jew, but now considers herself to be Orthodox Jewish.
I am chasidik and ettys story is shocking to me. i am married for 8 years and from the day I got married we said "I love you" and yes! marriage was and still is about love.
I agree! Im hasidic too my husband kisses me and hugs me ALL the time! an dtells me I LOVE YOU all the time. I feel bad she didnt get this love even tho I dont really think she didnt get kissed she probably did.
I don’t understand how the US family court works. Where is the voice of the child in all of this? Do the children not have their own solicitors? How can she have supervised contact when she has not abused the children? What is in the best interest of the children??
The courts won't let the child be raised by two different faiths, it's too stressful for the child. Then you have the lawyers; the Satmar community will club together to pay for high-priced lawyer to keep the children from being raised by the devil.
Judges are elected, meaning that in areas with a very large Hasidic population the courts would be used to these types of cases and would know what judgement to emit in order to continue getting votes
The Brooklyn court system is one of the most corrupt in America, if not the world. So many judges, law guardians and clerks are paid hoards of cash under the table to render favorable judgements for the paying parties. In the case of Hasidic community, they are very strong and have a lot of pull in the “in-justice” system and courts rule in their favour without any regard for the pain it inflicts. In this woman’s case, although she completely left the ways her children grew up with, the harassment and bullying she had to endure are precisely what pushed her out
Etty you are so brave, strong and courageous to tell your story publicly. Thank you for sharing. Your babies will always be your kids - whatever happens. One day they will know how much you love/d them and fought for them. With a heart full of pain and hope too. Lots of love xxxx from a mum who had her baby girl taken away too from the Hasidic community in the UK but eventually got her back.
btw your can clearly see on this interview and if you watch "one of us" that she dosn't have any feeling to her kids. The reason we don't know it may not be her fault, but that's exactly how it looks like.
Joshua Gottesman She may not have been able to bond with them because of post partum depression. Not to mention having them within all within such a short time would mean probably not being able to spend a lot of time with them individually.
Joshua Gottesman as soon as I read the message you wrote I knew it would have to have been written by a Jewish guy. Wtf. This is an awful thing to write. I saw that documentary and I saw a desperate mother longing for her kids.
In that world and mentality, love is never part of the equation. It's all arranged marriage and they say "you'll grow to love one another once you're married." They literally have you marry a stranger that the rabbi of the community and your parents arrange. "Marry who you love" is a very secular concept - which in the ultra orthodox/Hasidic communities is taboo to do anything in relation to the secular world. It's a "bad influence" because it actually allows some form of freedom of choice, which they say "if people don't abide by this, then what else won't they abide too", so people should follow god and gods decisions for them, because that's what god wants and that's all that matters because god is our creator. Granted, this god doesn't say anything about love in a marraige, so that's not part of the equation. Their more concerned and afraid of "losing" people from gods ways, then the actual happiness of the people. They assume everyone should be happy regardless of themselves because they are serving a "higher purpose". Welcome to religion in a nutshell.
Peanut jew here's a question: have you asked your local orthodox/ultra-orthodox rabbi if love in/before a marriage is considered? Let me know what they say. Curious if it may be different from what all the rabbis I've spoken too say (I'll give you a hint: all of them have said something along the lines of "you'll grow to love them" or "love isn't really something we talk about except in regard to hashem" or "love is a secular idea" and many more along those same lines).
" because the community power and financial POWER they have in the Court ". as a result. she lost the custody of her children.. so where's the law ?????!!!!!!!!!!!!... sleeping ?, or the law only applies to certain People/Cases ??!!.
Just to make something clear to all you numb nuts that the LAW of NYS is that if the kids grew up in a certain environment then they should remain with the parent who is going to continue to raise them that way.
I'm 18, and I just left the Hasidic community by leaving to go to college. It's been a real struggle and stories like Etty's are so common to me unfortunately. It makes me cry watching this and realizing that I am out and lost a whole community and world and everyone I knew. Many of my former friends look at me like a pity case and completely shunned me from their lives. It hurts but freedom is worth it for me. I am so lucky that I managed to get out before I was married off- I was terrified out of my wits of that happening.
Stay strong. All fanatical religions have deep hatred/fear towards women in my opinion. We have to deprogram ourselves and realize that it is indoctrination and brain washing. You must know your own truth...God is within you. Religions are created by MEN, not God.
Everyone in NY who lives close to these Hasidic communities knows about these " mafia like" Jews... but a lot of people tend to glamorize these communities because they are so different from the surrounding areas.
Yes, what a waste. What for do u want or need freedom? You are an abomination and in rebellion against God with your behaviour. Just don't sink any lower and marry a different kindred like Black, cos any woman who rebels against family is a bit perverted, and eventually ends up with a dark man. Don't waste yourself.
What a traumatic story. My heart goes out to her. I can’t imagine how hard it was and still is for her. She would be a great mother and deserves her kids back. What a disgusting story.
How can we help Etty and others escaping such extremism !We can't allow a mother to lose her children because she will not submit to a life she does not want!Is this America!? How can this happen in the land of the "free" ?! Can't any lawyer help this mother out? This is a Travesty and this judge should resign!
As an Orthodox Jew this is disgusting , horrifying, I’m so sorry for her this should have never happened, it’s not always like this I’m so sorry for her.
Just watched One of Us and this woman was absolutely treated unfairly by the courts. Clearly, patriarchy and misogyny are rampant in the Hasidic community. I hope when each of her children turn 18, they return to her!!
I hope so but I doubt it. The kids in those communities are severely brainwashed and the local government allows some pretty vile things to happen in their community. In my area, at least one Hasidic child a year dies because the parents don't watch their children since they have way too many. They normalize a lot of behavior that just isn't normal.
All cults essentially work exactly the same way. Some Hassidic sects are really little different once you take away the external trappings, than any other cult.
TheGreyCouncil Fundamentalist Later Day Saints. This group was lead by Warren Jeffs. There are several fundamentalist Mormon Groups in the USA, Mexico and Canada
I was born and raised in NY. Ever since I was a child, I always heard these horendous stories about the Jewish community in Brooklyn. Not only from regular folk but from Hasidic residents that left the community. It's sad. I don't think they're bad people but there's definitely something not right within this religion. It does have similarities with cult's.
sorry sweetie - but you've got it all wrong. You only hear it from the people who left, because they are the only ones who went through hellish marriages. The rest are happily married, so why should they tell you otherwise? There are men like this all over the world - not just in Jewish communities. Are you gonna say that catholics are in a cult, cuz you've met a few that decided to leave that faith cuz they went through hardships?
It isn't really the religion thou, it is more that particular community. The quiverful baptist movements, or particular strict muslim communities are a lot like that. It's more about patriarchy than about any given faith. God comes into it, but there are plenty of religious yet secular people and plenty of religious people who live integrated to and in reflection of their religion without being dogmatic. Personally I am an atheist and I have met a few (few few luckily) atheists who are dogmatically opposed to participating in the celebrations of surrounding societies because they are religious, which really is silly if you ask me, but has to do with some of that same selfrighteous attitude that lies behind religious dogmatism.
@@rorielea4723 The difference being Lea that in secular society we don't punish people for getting a divorce or choosing to lead a different life. Fundamentalist communities do, they ostracise members to put pressure on them to conform and obey in spite of them being in hellish marriages. THAT is the problem.
She is such a beautiful and very brave young woman who just wanted to get out of an abusive marriage. I really don't know how you can treat someone like that. It's really a good thing that she got out of there before he killed her. I really wish her nothing but the very best her the rest of her life.
Etty, you're one of us! I'm so sorry to hear your story. I can't put it out of my mind. What happened to you and your family is terrible. What you experienced in not Judaism. Unhappy marriages that are purely based on reproduction is not a Jewish value. Not everyone is the Hasidic community experiences Judaism the way you did. I wish you a happy life and inner peace!
My heart goes out to this women! All those years of abuse no doubt affected her! Praying for her because we all deserve peace which can only come from God!
I am sorry this is happening to you Etty....most of us recognize that you were overwhelmed, depressed....there appears that you were not treated with love and respect in your marriage, at 18 yrs old a person is still a child, and to be forced into a marriage with a stranger, that is what he was, a stranger who you only met twice.....I offer you my prayers
Etty you are really brave first to get help when you were struggling with mental health and then leaving him. You would fight cancer so it's ok to fight for your mental health. Stay strang!! We are praying for you and your children.
Hmmm, maybe. However, the religious community, Rabbi, family and neighbors probably were against her in court. That community is very close-knit and not without influence.
don't get so excited. This guy is a very nice person. she also says she suffered from him mostly after; when you go through a divorce, you go through a divorce.
I worked for an orthodox psychologist in my internship. She was suppose to pay us with a stipen at the end of the internship. She totally stiffed all of us and got away with it and moved to Israel. She used the orthodox community against us so we couldnt get her. Gods people, my @ss.
Thank you for covering this story! As an orthodox woman I am so happy you are shedding light on the more extreme and abusive parts of our community! We need change
@@debrakateri2979 umm maybe because you’re assumption that all orthodox and Hasidic communities are like this case is wrong. also she could be not married you only cover your hair once you’re married.
The Hasidic community are cruel not letting a mother be with her children . Tnose children will not forget this . It's so wrong Etty should sue the judge and the council she lived in at the time .
I pray that she gets her children back and the help to keep those monsters away from her and the children. She's a beautiful, brave young woman to talk about this terrible thing that she's going through. Please will someone help her get her children back and away from them
That life is all duty and no happiness unless you are a certain type of person and can deal with all that you are just doomed. I grew up in a Jehovah's witness family and that was too strict for me so I can just imagine how Etty felt!
Yup. Same thing Israel’s leaders are doing to the surrounding people. I am the child of the C old of a Holocaust survivor. My grandpa’s fathers (first his birth father, then stepdad) died in combat as fighter pilots. The horrific part is Bulgaria was “technically” in par with the nazis. My grandpa grew up in a Jewish ghetto, one that would have made those in the German ones cry for joy. But he was so scared he turned away from any faith what so ever. With what my family has gone through, Soviet Union included, I still cannot stand behind these types of actions. No God would want such suffering for no reason what so ever. Not a single God. I hope you’re doing good and staying safe hun❤️ life is jarring at times, but I pray you find nothing but happiness ahead❤️
As the great Christopher Hitchens used to say “With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.”
How can this go on in nyc? I can’t believe they took her kids. I just watched the doc she was in on Netflix and it’s heartbreaking to see the way those that choose to leave get ostracized. Those in most need of support have none. What did she do that warranted having her children taken from her??
Happens all the time in this community. We should not allow communities to live in isolation based on their religion. Women and children are mistreated in this community.
The more stories like Ettys I hear, I dare say religion often turns one person into an abusive sadistic monster against another. The more religious the group is, the more likely the group will build a fort like wall to keep themselves safe and free from legal intervention. This has to change in the US. Maybe the freedom of worship right has to have considerably more stringent dos and don'ts, more checks to protect everyone. I wish Etty a good life.
The courage of Etty is so inspiring. She's becoming a light in her children's mind that they will pass to their own children. That's how you make this world a better place.
juliagulia really? To overpopulate for world dominion...really..what an imbicilic statement. Oh and yes...for the welfare checks.you got it...thats right...we go through labor, raise lots of kids...for that check. I guess you also underestimate our brains...but then again...who are you..like your opinion mattered to anyone. It just shows your shallowness and lack of good judgement.
kati valente so you're just a puppet reoeating something without knowing anything right? Because ur haven't a clue. Just like any segment in society, there are different clasdes, rich and poor. But, excuse me...I live there and they are probably the hardest working people I know, and you'd love to be treated with the honor that most of them are.Out bible demands the utmost RESPECT AND HONOR TO HER. LOVE HER LIKE YOURSELF AND HONOR HER MORE THAN YOURSELF. Slaves, are u kidding me? Most even have woman helping with chores..u are delusional and maybe you ought to not puppet anyone, especially rebellious vengeful children who are filled with HATE. such a thing exists. Taking your info from them is liking hearing a dog bark and deciphering on your own what they are saying.
The Hassidic community sticks together and shuns anyone who leather, it took real guts for her to leave and stay away. The Hassidic community is also very powerful and influential. Unless you are familiar with this religion, you just don’t understand, so many often the men are abusive, and everyone looks the other way, it’s almost condoned, as a way to keep the women and children in Lino. Not all Hassidic men are abusive, but the ones who are, are almost given carte’ Blanca as long as the cops don’t have to get involved, it’s sad really, I have a friend being abused now and has gone to church elders for help and gotten no help. Just told to go home and be a good dutifully wife& have more babies.
Are you FLDS? I've been to Colorado City many times but never met any FLDS people there...the streets of their community were always empty and the homes shut up. Well, sometime we met people in the little store.
There's a large ultra orthodox Jewish community in a place called Stamford hill (in London). I wonder how many girls are experiencing the same thing this woman has endured. So sad.
Snowmen are NOT secular, that is just a real stretch of the imagination. I feel so bad for this woman but at the same time I so admire her strength. She needed to leave all she knew to save her own life. She really is a rockstar!! I wish her so much peace, love and happiness in her future. If she looses her bid to have contact with her children, I hope that someday her children understand why she had to do what she did and they give her a chance at a relationship with them, even if it’s when they become adults. It’s never too late to connect with family. ❤️
Love Etty. She's such a strong woman. I have so much respect for her. Growing up in that community, how COULD she know anything about ... well, anything really. The Hasidim live such a sheltered life for the most part. And with Etty, she spent her first 18 years learning about nothing, more or less, and her next 8 years being reduced to baby factory. But it's obvious how strong she is when you see her talk now.
My recommendation is never marry into culture like this. I lived in an Orthodox Jewish community thankfully I was not Jewish. Women were second class citizens. And I’ll never forget being asked by a man why I am doing a man’s job when I was mowing the lawn. The women all of the same and they all seem to have really boring lives. We were the for bidden fruit in the neighborhood that was the entertainment. I feel very blessed to have the family I have and not be controlled by A religion. This is why religion is very dangerous
Messed up, she wasnt ready for all of that. Maybe some women and men in that community are fine with their lives, but coming to your senses after 7 kids.. heartwrenching to leave them.
I am a Chassidic woman. But this woman belongs to a totally different sect than I do. I am of the Lubavitch sect. Chassidic women in my group are extremely liberated! We get introduced to our husbands like a blind date, but our marriages are not arranged or forced. We are educated. We work often in very good jobs. In my community the women are dynamos and practically run everything while remaining committed to being traditional wives and mothers and retaining their femininity. The media would rather portray mixed up miserable women like this one than show the many hundreds of fulfilled happy and strong women in my Chassidic community. This unfortunate woman married a sicko. That is sad for her, but she cannot be used to portray the life of women of the entire Chassidic world.
I would have never left my 1 child, let alone 7. I'm sorry, no, no, no. No freedom, no perceived freedom, no amazing nothing would ever make me leave my kids behind. I would have stayed and left my husband only when they were 18 - tough luck for me - they would have been my priority. The entire time she talked about herself not what's the best for her children - that wasn't even on the radar.
My heart goes out to this woman, it sounds like she went through such a rough patch. She is not mentioning how her childhood was, if she was depressed then too. I can see how some individuals will go all out because she went out but this personal definitely does not define chasidim or Orthodox Jews as a whole
The Hasidic Community is powerful because they’re united. Any community WOULD be powerful (i.e., have resources, an abundance of moral support etc.), if they remained united. It’s unfortunate, but I am sure that her ex (didn’t only use her decision to “terminate the marriage” against her), used her sexual orientation, the fact that she saw a therapist for depression & anxiety, and her lack of income as a result of the way they’re raised, to his advantage. Such a sad story. 😔 BTW, “26 years old with 7 children?”: Any woman would be experiencing “BURN-OUT”! I hope (for her sake, but especially for the sake of the children) that she will eventually begin to play a more vital role in their lives.
as someone whose town in currently being infiltrated by the hasidic religious sect, she is such a strong woman. i see how the men treat these women out in public with their 5+ children and it is not okay. i hope justice is served one day and she rightfully gets her children back. there is such a huge population of the ultra orthodox community doing so many awful things that i cannot believe more hasn’t been done. i can’t imagine the pain she must be going through to have to leave her children and watching the documentary it is absolutely apparent that this “religion” is a cult.
Heather Graham treating women like garbage? not caring for/watching their kids in public? i’m not saying it’s how it is everywhere, but everything i’ve seen first hand hasn’t been good. if you’re interested look up the towns of kiyras joel or new square in new york. many of the men know what is happening and the women aren’t educated enough to know any better. it’s a horrible cycle.
Sophia Grace. Thanks for responding. Yeah, I don't ever collectively group every single person on principle but sometimes with the majority of some communities, a spade is just a spade, you know? It's sad that in 2018 it can still be so common place, just more in secret & under the guise of religion. I will look into your descriptions as I was genuinely curious.
In my town we have a community of hasidic jews-I met a very strong willed woman(I was cleaning her teeth) from that community- she was demanding and pushy, however sweet as we got talking, she is an ER nurse who was very capable- then I met her husband when he had a toothache-(OWHHH) This man could not blink an eye without consulting with his WIFE He needed her input before he could do anything....so my experience was soooo contradictory to this
I understand Etty’s story: a marriage of convenience (for him); his repeated infidelity; his complete financial control; the sexual struggle I endured that ended the same as Etty’s.....we were members of a controlling, judgmental, paternalistic evangelical community. I had no emotional support. I had come from an abusive childhood that I sought counseling to deal with the deep pervasive depression and what I came to learn was anxiety. I had no way to take care of myself financially, much less the 3 children who had relationships with the woman my husband had been seeing for 3 years behind my back. We lived in a very small town in northern Arizona (7000 population). Everyone kept his secret and supported him. When I decided to leave, I was vilified by my church and my community. My husband hid the children from me with friends, and I had to leave alone with literally less than I came into the marriage with 17 years prior. My children were told I was the same as dead to them and that the new wife -who he married on the anniversary of my leaving home - was their « real » mother. I have since developed a relationship with my oldest daughter. My two younger children, a son and another daughter still have nothing to do with me and it is now 23 years later and my ex-husband has since passed away. I admire Etty’s strength and the desire to find her truth, as I did with my own loving, supportive partner. I can honestly say that I know what it feels like to feel loved and supported by someone who is actually interested in my well-being. All the best to Etty!
Doesnt matter what the religion is---keeping women subjugated and unfree, and imprisoning people, arranged marriages, abuse and harassment. Dispicable religious beliefs have no place in my world.
The way she was abused and the way the children were taken from their mother they will never recover from that trauma of separation. This shows me that the hasidic religion has a very dark side and it really damages people. Many of the extreme religious groups are more to do with power and control than they are about love and religion.
Wow! This girl is Mayim Bialik's doppelganger! I really thought it was her, that's why I clicked on it. Whoever watched the show Blossom you'd know who I'm talking about. It's really sad what she went through. I think she's confused about her sexuality though because of what she went through with an abusive man. I really hope the best for her & that she may gain full custody of her children one day. God bless her!♥️
Can't believe she lost in the courts! Courts overwhelmingly favour mothers over fathers. It's such a sad story! Hopefully she will see her children when they are older and can understand!
My first intinct was to criticize her for leaving her kids in a situation she felt was too horrible for her to live in. But then I remembered the horrible things that happen to children with a disfunctional parent who hangs on to them for dear life thinking it's out of a deep love and concern for them, only to come to the realization, much to late, that were not fit to parent. Sometimes holding on is the most selfish thing you can do, cause letting go takes more love and more courage than the alternative.
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Same!
I hope her children grow up and decide to have a relationship with her. She is a worthy mother.
They'll probably end up being so brainwashed that they won't contact her.
Absolutely I know no words for her pain same with the children god protect them
@@eksiarvamus The thing is: they are also her kids. If she had the presence of mind to realise something is wrong some of her kids will too.
She still sees them once a week according to the documentary
I think the oldest daughter who she had a very close relationship with is the most likely to get out of the cult.
Again, with freedom of religion, it makes me angry that she isn't allowed to contact her kids. Every Mother, who is not endangering her kids physically or psychologically, should have a custody rights to their children.
Utubecancll head inbaudoux
@Ferguson101 We know that. The comment is based of this womans experience. Not everything is about you personally.
According to her Jewish money is playing a major role even in NY court. WOW!!!!!
Not necessarily custody rights but seriously, at least there should be shared custody. When my ex and I split we worked it out ourselved with one weekend each and he gets a day a week as well. So we are on a 4-8 program pretty much. And when I want to go out a day I rely on him when he is available rather than others. My mom is my backup. Even in a really bad divorce you should be obligated to honor everyones parental rights. Only violence and abuse is reason to forfeit parental rights.
Agnete Thomsen he’s abusive she said it and he’s obviously is he deserves nothing
26 and 7 kids!!!!! so sad and such a vile abuse of women, ironically in the name of god. no God would want this.
They get them pregnant early so by the time they realize what was done to them its too late to escape and they are dependant on the cult for a livelihood.
seerpou I live next to a huge Satmar community. I was sitting in a doctor’s waiting room, and began a conversation with a Hasidic man who appeared my age. I have two grandchildren; he had more than 40. And they’re all on welfare. It’s incredible.
@@wotan10950 hmmm, I thought they were proud citizens and proud Jews and they support each other like no other community! I hope we just know one small side of the story, I mean anyone can be in welfare if needed, no problem. But it's difficult for me to think of a Jew in welfare... I'm learning stuff.
@@uzzymuzzy4312 Finding "The WAY, The TRUTH, and The LIFE" - it is NOT a religion, but it is the only way to go. "Tune in" and Your Creator will REVEAL Himself to you, in the intimacy of your own heart. Suddenly, everything will start making sense like NEVER before! God is very Real!
Someone Said: I would rather to be black than a woman. because of such segregation between men and women.
The worst part of this is ,that is happening in NYC. We only have eyes for Afganistan or Saudi Arabia .
I feel like it's a bit different. Afghanistan and Saudia Arabia are KNOWN for a constant abuse of women where as with these Jewish communities they don't usually physically abuse their wives or kids. In other words these Jewish women have A LITTLE more "freedom" if you will. Is it good..no, but I see other communities as WAY more abusive than these Jewish communities. Afghanistan and Saudia Arabia marry off their daughters before even hitting puberty where as, although young, Jewish communities don't do that, even orthodox Jews.
@@daughteroftheking2979 abuse is abuse. In the US and everywhere.
@@daughteroftheking2979 You're delusional and your anti Muslim bias is repulsive
@@daughteroftheking2979 And no one marries their daughter off before puberty in Saudi. You're embarrassing yourself with the things you're saying 😂
@R TTT if it was real, the world would be a better place.
I totally understand her pain. I lost custody of my son in an abusive situation because the father's parents have a lot of money and are willing to spend it, but I don't have the resources or support to protect my son or myself. My 4-year old is growing up without a mother who loves and adores him with all of her heart because of the abuse. I haven't seen him in over 2 years. I have nightmares every single night about this, and I wake up to continually find that the nightmare is real.
There is nothing that I can do to save my son becausee my hands are tied. I know he is growing up in an abusive situation, and that abuse is normalized in his upbringing--but I can't save or protect him, I tried to, but that just made the abuse worse. I even went to jail for standing up to abuse. I know that I'm not alone in having a child in abusive circumstances, and that I'm not the only victim of legal child custody abuse, and I appreciate those who are able to come forward to bring light to these situations.
Whatever criticism and backlash that this fellow mom receives, I understand what she's going through, and I know it's not her fault. If she or I could open a magic door and make everything right, I know that we both would.
We Live and Learn. Next time take Photo's in Secret, Film in Secret, Record in Secret.
When protective mothers allege that their children are being abused by the father, the courts punish the mother and give the abusive father sole custody 90% of the time; particularly when it's allegations of sexual abuse. They render the protective mother childless, penniless, and homeless. The Family Court system is diabolical, evil, and incredibly corrupt. This is done with the help of GAL's, forensic evaluators, attorneys, CPS etc. This is a systemic censored pandemic that is happening all across the US. MSM will not cover these horrors. No child is safe.
Please call your governments social service and explain the situation ask them to visit your son regularly to ensure that the abuse is minimized. Please apply for visitation so you stay in contact with your child.
Jesus makes miracles. Pray with faith and you will get help. God bless you.
I'm so sorry. This culture isn't really any different from the "orthodox community" In our culture, the court takes children away from their mothers and places them with the person who has the most money even if they are abusive. They don't care about the children. The judge cares about pleasing the blood sucking lawyers that they are buddies with.
This type of abuse should be illegal. These children are deprived from a proper education, and the tools needed to live full lives. This happens with the Amish too. It should be illegal. A right to religious freedom should not overpower the right to the pursuit of happiness. Without education and tools, and being forced to stay there, there are no choices. The options are not there. To me, this functions as a cult. It should be outlawed. It also gives a bad name to Judaism, which is a beautiful religion when not used to basically inflict trauma into new generations.
So sad that this small group makes all jews look bad.
Justice Served just like with bad cops and bad teachers: if the good ones stand up to them and take away their power, then not all will look bad.
@@tonyhsloanejr So True. To call these extremists a Jewish community is an insult to the Jewish faith and people. They are nothing more that a cult. In fact they meet most of the basic criteria that defines a cult.
Yeah, it's basically a cult. So much of it makes no sense at all: the women have to shave off their own hair only to wear a wig made of... human hair ??? (I wonder where the hair came from?). And the way they scrubbed the female faces from their children's 'educational' material? That's messed up.
@@dwstudio899 agreed they're a cult
I think the hair for the wigs come from women in eastern Europe for the most part as they want "white" hair vs getting it from India or Asia.
Freedom is the best thing a person can have. Nobody must feel that life is a jail.
Tamora P this story is totally false and made up,
In fact no body of our community is threatening any one, check out the statistics
@@ssimon7953 that's why there are so many stories just like her out there. It's a conspiracy.
Maldives Baby every woman who comes up with a story like that is either very attention sick or she haven't experience an normal life
And before you draw any conclusion you have to investigate the other side also, and i invite you to come to Williamsburg Brooklyn or other hasidic places to see with ur Owen eyes,
( that's only if u whanto now the truth)
+Nathan s.:
"every woman who comes up with a story like that is either very attention sick or she haven't experience an normal life"
==Perhaps her hassidic community is different than yours.
She says she had 7 kids in 7 years. That is not normal.
"In fact no body of our community is threatening any one, check out the statistics"
==Feel free to provide them.
@@louistournas120 I am also from the Hasidic community. I could assure you, that the majority of the community doesn't have the type of experience she unfortunately had, in fact there are many people that are on birth control (of course it depends on the individual for how long etc.) So just because she had this experience it doesn't make the whole community bad. BTW even though I feel bad for her. I am sure that there is another side of the story.
Poor woman and poor kids. She didn’t give up her kids they were taken.
I Don't Know Why She could've Divorced Her Husband and get full custody of the kids, I would Divorced my Husband and Get Full Custody of the Kids, Because The Court Favors On The Mother, and My Ex-Husband will only have Supervised Visitation Rights to see them, It'll be at the courthouse under the watchful eyes of a social worker, I'll have the social worker take notes or tape recorded what they did, like talking, drawing pictures, playing games, reading a book, I would have books be checked out at a library that would be near the courthouse, and I would also have food brought over to them, so that He won't be allowed to take them out to eat, also he'll only spent one holiday with them and that would be Halloween.
@@kathymoriarty1441 she wanted a divorce initially thats how the court case started. The courts in their community do not favor the mother as she was letting her children watch non religious movies and books. They posted flyers all over the neighborhood painting her as a bad parent for our and wanting a divorce. They were more in favor of the husband as he was stricter with the religion. She then wanted to leave the community and fought for custody for her children but lost them because the courts they went through was religious and in favor of their community rather than the children's well-being.
@My Nameis oh shoots then I'm a crimina?
I saw the documentary. No one should lose their financial security, their ability to take care of their children, and be so browbeat that they give up, nor should they be abused by the husband and the community. The courts need to not favor a religious type cult over a mother or father. Having 7 children from 18 to 26 is harmful to the body, she probably suffered from post partum depression.
foxibot no one, unless you are crazy
foxibot why do you trust that everything she says is honest. I know her family... I know her story...its b.s
Aqua 44 Thanks!
anonymous anonymous Tell us about what you know, otherwise we have to go on facts presented. Shalom.
foxibot: I don't know the details of the story but I think that it's unfair to attach a whole group and call them a cult when we don't know the other side. I will actually go further and say that even if she was 100% in the right and there were 500 more of such stories that would not reflect the entire population if the hassidic community. there are thousands of hassidics out there and that percent can be found anywhere
I am sorry to all girls, women and children suffering from this horrible abuse...
She looks a lot better from the documentary "one of us" was made. Good for her. Wishing her all the happiness and best as her life and she continues to grow.
TheGreyCouncil it is her from the Netflix series.
TheGreyCouncil That was definitely a hard documentary to watch, especially watching Ari’s little identity crisis unravel!
Spitting image of Mayim Bialik!!
I thought so too.. and isn’t Mayim part of that community? Maybe they’re related??
Lara Hayes Mayim was born Jewish. She did not convert.
Lara Hayes I don’t know which Wikipedia you’ve been reading. Wikipedia: Mayim Chaya Bialik was born on December 12, 1975, in San Diego, California, to Barry and Beverly (née Winkleman) Bialik.Her family were Jewish immigrants, and three of her four grandparents migrated from Poland, Czechoslovakia, and Hungary.Bialik was raised as a Reform Jew, but now considers herself to be Orthodox Jewish.
I thought the same when I saw the thumbnail.
R1234 H5678 i was just reading the comments to see if I was the only one thinking that
How is this even legal? the judge should be investigated
It’s legal because they control everything from economy to politics
@@k1883 while getting subsidized housing off the taxpayers money
I am chasidik and ettys story is shocking to me. i am married for 8 years and from the day I got married we said "I love you" and yes! marriage was and still is about love.
I agree! Im hasidic too my husband kisses me and hugs me ALL the time! an dtells me I LOVE YOU all the time. I feel bad she didnt get this love even tho I dont really think she didnt get kissed she probably did.
She needs to write a book ASAP!!! Her life story is amazing
U r stupid. Very stupid.
Exactly my dear sister and buddy
Absolutely heart breaking, hope she's doing okay and her children are safe
I don’t understand how the US family court works. Where is the voice of the child in all of this? Do the children not have their own solicitors? How can she have supervised contact when she has not abused the children? What is in the best interest of the children??
The courts won't let the child be raised by two different faiths, it's too stressful for the child. Then you have the lawyers; the Satmar community will club together to pay for high-priced lawyer to keep the children from being raised by the devil.
Judges are elected, meaning that in areas with a very large Hasidic population the courts would be used to these types of cases and would know what judgement to emit in order to continue getting votes
Woman of all faiths must ban together to protect and defend each other.
L. V. Women must stop participating in the brainwashing that is religion, in order to recognize our strength and overcome its misogyny.
dee ells you nailed it! I wish more people realized this truth… think of what we could accomplish!
Shut up Femminists
HollywoodSaint 57 The “smallest” men are always the most readily triggered.
very well said!!!
The Brooklyn court system is one of the most corrupt in America, if not the world. So many judges, law guardians and clerks are paid hoards of cash under the table to render favorable judgements for the paying parties. In the case of Hasidic community, they are very strong and have a lot of pull in the “in-justice” system and courts rule in their favour without any regard for the pain it inflicts. In this woman’s case, although she completely left the ways her children grew up with, the harassment and bullying she had to endure are precisely what pushed her out
Wow she really looks like the actress on the big bang theory. You are very courageous for sharing your story.
She is the actress on big bang theory.
@@joltjolt5060 The lady from the Big Bang theory had been in television since she was a kid. Then she took a break to become a neuroscientist.
And they're both Jewish ✡
@@psychedelicpayroll5412 that is still so crazy
Sending out so much love to Etty! She is so brave and strong!
Etty you are so brave, strong and courageous to tell your story publicly. Thank you for sharing. Your babies will always be your kids - whatever happens. One day they will know how much you love/d them and fought for them. With a heart full of pain and hope too. Lots of love xxxx from a mum who had her baby girl taken away too from the Hasidic community in the UK but eventually got her back.
btw your can clearly see on this interview and if you watch "one of us" that she dosn't have any feeling to her kids. The reason we don't know it may not be her fault, but that's exactly how it looks like.
Joshua Gottesman She may not have been able to bond with them because of post partum depression. Not to mention having them within all within such a short time would mean probably not being able to spend a lot of time with them individually.
I'd rather say, fundamentalism of any kind is gross..
Joshua Gottesman as soon as I read the message you wrote I knew it would have to have been written by a Jewish guy. Wtf. This is an awful thing to write. I saw that documentary and I saw a desperate mother longing for her kids.
That's funny, I clearly see a woman who is trying to be strong and survive so she can fight for her children. Try being a mother before you judge.
He was out of the home--learning. Nice life for the men in her former world.
Orthodox men who study Torah are the real welfare queens. A massive percentage of them are on gov subsidies.
Learning?
He was an abusive man did you not hear that part? Most men help at home. And bring in an income
@@rorielea4723 except pimps
@@kathysavage9342 😂 precisely.
I have so much empathy for her. I wish her healing and happiness.
You have seven children and he’s never kissed you?!!! I would have stabbed him the second time he tried to enter me.
In that world and mentality, love is never part of the equation. It's all arranged marriage and they say "you'll grow to love one another once you're married." They literally have you marry a stranger that the rabbi of the community and your parents arrange. "Marry who you love" is a very secular concept - which in the ultra orthodox/Hasidic communities is taboo to do anything in relation to the secular world. It's a "bad influence" because it actually allows some form of freedom of choice, which they say "if people don't abide by this, then what else won't they abide too", so people should follow god and gods decisions for them, because that's what god wants and that's all that matters because god is our creator. Granted, this god doesn't say anything about love in a marraige, so that's not part of the equation. Their more concerned and afraid of "losing" people from gods ways, then the actual happiness of the people. They assume everyone should be happy regardless of themselves because they are serving a "higher purpose". Welcome to religion in a nutshell.
TheGreyCouncil I like the way you talk about my community when you don't have any idea what it is about,
Peanut jew I like the way I talk about my old communities too. Ex ultra-orthodox jew here. Nice try though.
Peanut jew here's a question: have you asked your local orthodox/ultra-orthodox rabbi if love in/before a marriage is considered?
Let me know what they say. Curious if it may be different from what all the rabbis I've spoken too say (I'll give you a hint: all of them have said something along the lines of "you'll grow to love them" or "love isn't really something we talk about except in regard to hashem" or "love is a secular idea" and many more along those same lines).
TheGreyCouncil
This is what people mean when they say you "owned" someone, isn't it. Nice one GreyCouncil.
" because the community power and financial POWER they have in the Court ". as a result. she lost the custody of her children.. so where's the law ?????!!!!!!!!!!!!... sleeping ?, or the law only applies to certain People/Cases ??!!.
Family court is horrible. Especially to woman like her. Just horrible.
@@marion4827 so why is she under attack in America? Same as Sharia law
Just to make something clear to all you numb nuts that the LAW of NYS is that if the kids grew up in a certain environment then they should remain with the parent who is going to continue to raise them that way.
Alguien sabe si pudo recuperar a sus hijos??? Que triste. Dios quiera pueda recuperarlos. Esos chicos deben estar sufriendo muchísimo.
Etty, I hope you live a healthy, full, happy and satisfying life. You deserve it! We support you!
I'm 18, and I just left the Hasidic community by leaving to go to college. It's been a real struggle and stories like Etty's are so common to me unfortunately. It makes me cry watching this and realizing that I am out and lost a whole community and world and everyone I knew. Many of my former friends look at me like a pity case and completely shunned me from their lives. It hurts but freedom is worth it for me. I am so lucky that I managed to get out before I was married off- I was terrified out of my wits of that happening.
congratulations, sending a big hug!
Stay strong. All fanatical religions have deep hatred/fear towards women in my opinion. We have to deprogram ourselves and realize that it is indoctrination and brain washing. You must know your own truth...God is within you. Religions are created by MEN, not God.
Everyone in NY who lives close to these Hasidic communities knows about these " mafia like" Jews... but a lot of people tend to glamorize these communities because they are so different from the surrounding areas.
Yes, what a waste.
What for do u want or need freedom?
You are an abomination and in rebellion against God with your behaviour.
Just don't sink any lower and marry a different kindred like Black,
cos any woman who rebels against family is a bit perverted, and eventually ends up with a dark man.
Don't waste yourself.
@@Adriana-vp1rmRepent from your pagan Babylonian cult
Umm.. Excuse me if I'm wrong but I don't think a snowman has anything to do with Christianity 😑
Racist antisemite number 50,000.
Joy Scrimner Nice ambiguous retort 👍
Quint L. Agreed
There is a difference between Judaism and Christianity. A snowman would be considered secular.
Love Loyalty Christians and Muslims are JEWS!!!!
What a traumatic story. My heart goes out to her. I can’t imagine how hard it was and still is for her. She would be a great mother and deserves her kids back. What a disgusting story.
How can we help Etty and others escaping such extremism !We can't allow a mother to lose her children because she will not submit to a life she does not want!Is this America!? How can this happen in the land of the "free" ?! Can't any lawyer help this mother out? This is a Travesty and this judge should resign!
Write a book beautiful lady! Mayim Bialik could play you in the film!
I thought the same. 😊
Me too.
i initially thought it was that actress
+
I was just thinking that!
As an Orthodox Jew this is disgusting , horrifying, I’m so sorry for her this should have never happened, it’s not always like this I’m so sorry for her.
You spelled disgusting wrong.
@@sabikahadi7328 thank u!!!! i fixed it
@@willow5235 you spelled "you" wrong.
Just watched One of Us and this woman was absolutely treated unfairly by the courts. Clearly, patriarchy and misogyny are rampant in the Hasidic community. I hope when each of her children turn 18, they return to her!!
I hope so but I doubt it. The kids in those communities are severely brainwashed and the local government allows some pretty vile things to happen in their community. In my area, at least one Hasidic child a year dies because the parents don't watch their children since they have way too many. They normalize a lot of behavior that just isn't normal.
The consequences sound like that squirrelling crap they do to people in Scientology 😨
All cults essentially work exactly the same way. Some Hassidic sects are really little different once you take away the external trappings, than any other cult.
sjc04d I am a Christian Missionary in Colorado City Arizona, we have similar stories her from Women leaving the FLDS.
Nida Lloyd FLDS? No idea what that stands for...
TheGreyCouncil Fundamentalist Later Day Saints. This group was lead by Warren Jeffs. There are several fundamentalist Mormon Groups in the USA, Mexico and Canada
Nida Lloyd ah, I usually hear people say the whole title and not the acronym. Thank you!
I was born and raised in NY. Ever since I was a child, I always heard these horendous stories about the Jewish community in Brooklyn. Not only from regular folk but from Hasidic residents that left the community. It's sad. I don't think they're bad people but there's definitely something not right within this religion. It does have similarities with cult's.
sorry sweetie - but you've got it all wrong. You only hear it from the people who left, because they are the only ones who went through hellish marriages. The rest are happily married, so why should they tell you otherwise? There are men like this all over the world - not just in Jewish communities. Are you gonna say that catholics are in a cult, cuz you've met a few that decided to leave that faith cuz they went through hardships?
It isn't really the religion thou, it is more that particular community. The quiverful baptist movements, or particular strict muslim communities are a lot like that. It's more about patriarchy than about any given faith. God comes into it, but there are plenty of religious yet secular people and plenty of religious people who live integrated to and in reflection of their religion without being dogmatic. Personally I am an atheist and I have met a few (few few luckily) atheists who are dogmatically opposed to participating in the celebrations of surrounding societies because they are religious, which really is silly if you ask me, but has to do with some of that same selfrighteous attitude that lies behind religious dogmatism.
@@rorielea4723 The difference being Lea that in secular society we don't punish people for getting a divorce or choosing to lead a different life. Fundamentalist communities do, they ostracise members to put pressure on them to conform and obey in spite of them being in hellish marriages. THAT is the problem.
The word "cults" in this sense is spelled without the apostrophe.
I think that any community that is so closed off and extremist in their views is one to watch with caution.
She is such a beautiful and very brave young woman who just wanted to get out of an abusive marriage. I really don't know how you can treat someone like that. It's really a good thing that she got out of there before he killed her. I really wish her nothing but the very best her the rest of her life.
One of Us is an AMAZING documentary that I encourage everyone to watch.
Etty, you're one of us!
I'm so sorry to hear your story. I can't put it out of my mind. What happened to you and your family is terrible.
What you experienced in not Judaism. Unhappy marriages that are purely based on reproduction is not a Jewish value. Not everyone is the Hasidic community experiences Judaism the way you did.
I wish you a happy life and inner peace!
Mindy Friedman spoken like a true jew
wow such a powerful story. I hope you find the happiness you deserve Etty
Sierra Grace Hogan Seriously! My mind is blown! Crazy how brainwashing Cults and Religions are/can be...
she will never be happy
How can she ever find happiness without her kids? May she find justice.
Megan kelly is horrible at these interviews. She shows no emotion or depth
I don’t like her either
She’s horrible in general
It’s empathy she lacks. That’s how she is able to do her job...
My heart goes out to this women! All those years of abuse no doubt affected her! Praying for her because we all deserve peace which can only come from God!
Prayer is a nice way of doing nothing. What she needs is financial support for legal fees. And seems like she has peace without religion or god
I am sorry this is happening to you Etty....most of us recognize that you were overwhelmed, depressed....there appears that you were not treated with love and respect in your marriage, at 18 yrs old a person is still a child, and to be forced into a marriage with a stranger, that is what he was, a stranger who you only met twice.....I offer you my prayers
Etty you are really brave first to get help when you were struggling with mental health and then leaving him. You would fight cancer so it's ok to fight for your mental health. Stay strang!! We are praying for you and your children.
The interviews on this show seem to be very shallow and short. Never in-depth.
Hmmm, maybe. However, the religious community, Rabbi, family and neighbors probably were against her in court. That community is very close-knit and not without influence.
don't get so excited. This guy is a very nice person. she also says she suffered from him mostly after; when you go through a divorce, you go through a divorce.
oh you gotta watch the documentary on Netflix. Very good; interesting.
D Parks Megan Kelly is a robot. No sincere feelings or emotions
D Parks because megan is shallow
So ridiculous that the judge ruled in that way
I had the same situation only I got full custody of my children.
Snow men are Christian?? I missed that part of the New Testament.
STOP. SECULAR. Did you also miss the part of the testament about not judging other's?
Especially cause they don't get snow in Israel. 😂
@@pamk9333 you haven't read the book have you?
Read ALL of the words AROUND that phrase & maybe you'll get it...
Over Worked: 🤣😂😅 Thank you for your comment. I really needed a good laugh today.
First Frosty, then Santa, next thing you know, its Jesus.
I worked for an orthodox psychologist in my internship. She was suppose to pay us with a stipen at the end of the internship. She totally stiffed all of us and got away with it and moved to Israel. She used the orthodox community against us so we couldnt get her. Gods people, my @ss.
Thank you for covering this story! As an orthodox woman I am so happy you are shedding light on the more extreme and abusive parts of our community! We need change
Simcha Sher if you are orthodox why are you on social media outlet and why is your hair not covered ?
@@debrakateri2979 umm maybe because you’re assumption that all orthodox and Hasidic communities are like this case is wrong. also she could be not married you only cover your hair once you’re married.
The Hasidic community are cruel not letting a mother be with her children .
Tnose children will not forget this .
It's so wrong Etty should sue the judge and the council she lived in at the time .
Anyone who has been in a verbal/physically abusive relationship knows how it feels. It's stay and think of self harm everyday or break free.
I pray that she gets her children back and the help to keep those monsters away from her and the children. She's a beautiful, brave young woman to talk about this terrible thing that she's going through. Please will someone help her get her children back and away from them
This comment section is half ultra-orthodox trolls, half people who notice a resemblance with the big bang theory girl.
Imagine not understanding what orthodoxy is enough to see the lunacy of suggesting they’re on TH-cam being trolls...
Nope it's all antisemitic trolls, as all comment sections are.
sira castori...Mayim Bialik is the actress' name. As a child actor she also played the part of "Blossom" tv. comedy series.
Kathy Savage I’m ultra-orthodox
@Nellie Rutten oh they do lol. If it involves attacking them they do believe me.
The community paid that judge, so sad.
I’m so proud of her, God bless her always 🙏🏻
she looks like Mayim Bialik?
I think so too!
I thought it was her in the thumb nail
I scrolled through the comments just to see if anyone else thought this as well!
YES
Suey I was wondering what kind of issues Blossom is having.
That life is all duty and no happiness unless you are a certain type of person and can deal with all that you are just doomed. I grew up in a Jehovah's witness family and that was too strict for me so I can just imagine how Etty felt!
They did to her what the Nazi did to her people. Does anybody see the total madness of that community and cult?
Yup. Same thing Israel’s leaders are doing to the surrounding people. I am the child of the C old of a Holocaust survivor. My grandpa’s fathers (first his birth father, then stepdad) died in combat as fighter pilots. The horrific part is Bulgaria was “technically” in par with the nazis. My grandpa grew up in a Jewish ghetto, one that would have made those in the German ones cry for joy. But he was so scared he turned away from any faith what so ever. With what my family has gone through, Soviet Union included, I still cannot stand behind these types of actions. No God would want such suffering for no reason what so ever. Not a single God. I hope you’re doing good and staying safe hun❤️ life is jarring at times, but I pray you find nothing but happiness ahead❤️
As the great Christopher Hitchens used to say “With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.”
7 kids by 26 years old 😬 I’m glad she’s doing better now
How can this go on in nyc? I can’t believe they took her kids. I just watched the doc she was in on Netflix and it’s heartbreaking to see the way those that choose to leave get ostracized. Those in most need of support have none. What did she do that warranted having her children taken from her??
Happens all the time in this community. We should not allow communities to live in isolation based on their religion. Women and children are mistreated in this community.
It happens everywhere, flds is another one ..just to name one .
this is to the ex husband and his laywer,,,,,,,I BELIEVE HER,,,,,,
Aine Mairead that’s fine but facts don’t care about your feelings. You have to have proof in any case.
The judge has a lot to answer for. 😢 Shameful
The more stories like Ettys I hear, I dare say religion often turns one person into an abusive sadistic monster against another. The more religious the group is, the more likely the group will build a fort like wall to keep themselves safe and free from legal intervention. This has to change in the US. Maybe the freedom of worship right has to have considerably more stringent dos and don'ts, more checks to protect everyone.
I wish Etty a good life.
Usually in these abusive situations you are cut off financially and they have unlimited finances. You have no way to provide for your children.
Brave lady.God Bless.😍 her.l hope she gets her children back.
Such a hard life and too take children away is so sad
The courage of Etty is so inspiring. She's becoming a light in her children's mind that they will pass to their own children. That's how you make this world a better place.
26 yrs. Old with 7 kids...dayuummm...
Terrie Smith Most Hasidic families have over 10 children.
Terrie Smith first and foremost for getting that welfare check & also overpopulate for world domination.
Terri Smith
Unbelievable
juliagulia really? To overpopulate for world dominion...really..what an imbicilic statement. Oh and yes...for the welfare checks.you got it...thats right...we go through labor, raise lots of kids...for that check. I guess you also underestimate our brains...but then again...who are you..like your opinion mattered to anyone. It just shows your shallowness and lack of good judgement.
kati valente so you're just a puppet reoeating something without knowing anything right? Because ur haven't a clue. Just like any segment in society, there are different clasdes, rich and poor. But, excuse me...I live there and they are probably the hardest working people I know, and you'd love to be treated with the honor that most of them are.Out bible demands the utmost RESPECT AND HONOR TO HER. LOVE HER LIKE YOURSELF AND HONOR HER MORE THAN YOURSELF. Slaves, are u kidding me? Most even have woman helping with chores..u are delusional and maybe you ought to not puppet anyone, especially rebellious vengeful children who are filled with HATE. such a thing exists. Taking your info from them is liking hearing a dog bark and deciphering on your own what they are saying.
The Hassidic community sticks together and shuns anyone who leather, it took real guts for her to leave and stay away. The Hassidic community is also very powerful and influential. Unless you are familiar with this religion, you just don’t understand, so many often the men are abusive, and everyone looks the other way, it’s almost condoned, as a way to keep the women and children in Lino. Not all Hassidic men are abusive, but the ones who are, are almost given carte’ Blanca as long as the cops don’t have to get involved, it’s sad really, I have a friend being abused now and has gone to church elders for help and gotten no help. Just told to go home and be a good dutifully wife& have more babies.
You speak the truth.
This is a very strong woman who did the absolute right thing and I wish more woman in those communities step forward.
We deal with similar stories in the community where I live, Colorado City Arizona, home of the FLDS.
Variations of the same cult really.
Are you FLDS? I've been to Colorado City many times but never met any FLDS people there...the streets of their community were always empty and the homes shut up. Well, sometime we met people in the little store.
Etty, all the power to you. Blessings!
There's a large ultra orthodox Jewish community in a place called Stamford hill (in London). I wonder how many girls are experiencing the same thing this woman has endured. So sad.
Ade Ola no one suffers. She's a total fail that blamed everything on everyone
I'd imagine quite a few, and the boys too.
Snowmen are NOT secular, that is just a real stretch of the imagination. I feel so bad for this woman but at the same time I so admire her strength. She needed to leave all she knew to save her own life. She really is a rockstar!! I wish her so much peace, love and happiness in her future. If she looses her bid to have contact with her children, I hope that someday her children understand why she had to do what she did and they give her a chance at a relationship with them, even if it’s when they become adults. It’s never too late to connect with family. ❤️
No, she should have took her kids and left for a shelter in another state, while he was at work. Then immediately filed for custody.
How are snowmen not secular please explain this to me
These cults should be illegal
Love Etty. She's such a strong woman. I have so much respect for her.
Growing up in that community, how COULD she know anything about ... well, anything really. The Hasidim live such a sheltered life for the most part. And with Etty, she spent her first 18 years learning about nothing, more or less, and her next 8 years being reduced to baby factory. But it's obvious how strong she is when you see her talk now.
What a cool, articulate woman.
My recommendation is never marry into culture like this. I lived in an Orthodox Jewish community thankfully I was not Jewish. Women were second class citizens. And I’ll never forget being asked by a man why I am doing a man’s job when I was mowing the lawn. The women all of the same and they all seem to have really boring lives. We were the for bidden fruit in the neighborhood that was the entertainment. I feel very blessed to have the family I have and not be controlled by A religion. This is why religion is very dangerous
Hard to feel bad for someone who chose this life, You’re not the first woman to go through this and you won’t be the last when will women learn
Messed up, she wasnt ready for all of that. Maybe some women and men in that community are fine with their lives, but coming to your senses after 7 kids.. heartwrenching to leave them.
I am a Chassidic woman. But this woman belongs to a totally different sect than I do. I am of the Lubavitch sect. Chassidic women in my group are extremely liberated! We get introduced to our husbands like a blind date, but our marriages are not arranged or forced. We are educated. We work often in very good jobs. In my community the women are dynamos and practically run everything while remaining committed to being traditional wives and mothers and retaining their femininity. The media would rather portray mixed up miserable women like this one than show the many hundreds of fulfilled happy and strong women in my Chassidic community. This unfortunate woman married a sicko. That is sad for her, but she cannot be used to portray the life of women of the entire Chassidic world.
I would have never left my 1 child, let alone 7. I'm sorry, no, no, no. No freedom, no perceived freedom, no amazing nothing would ever make me leave my kids behind. I would have stayed and left my husband only when they were 18 - tough luck for me - they would have been my priority. The entire time she talked about herself not what's the best for her children - that wasn't even on the radar.
My heart goes out to this woman, it sounds like she went through such a rough patch. She is not mentioning how her childhood was, if she was depressed then too. I can see how some individuals will go all out because she went out but this personal definitely does not define chasidim or Orthodox Jews as a whole
The Hasidic Community is powerful because they’re united. Any community WOULD be powerful (i.e., have resources, an abundance of moral support etc.), if they remained united. It’s unfortunate, but I am sure that her ex (didn’t only use her decision to “terminate the marriage” against her), used her sexual orientation, the fact that she saw a therapist for depression & anxiety, and her lack of income as a result of the way they’re raised, to his advantage. Such a sad story. 😔 BTW, “26 years old with 7 children?”: Any woman would be experiencing “BURN-OUT”! I hope (for her sake, but especially for the sake of the children) that she will eventually begin to play a more vital role in their lives.
Same story of a girl from the UK..Her husband from Vienna did everything to destroy her+take her children away from her.Heartbreaking!
as someone whose town in currently being infiltrated by the hasidic religious sect, she is such a strong woman. i see how the men treat these women out in public with their 5+ children and it is not okay. i hope justice is served one day and she rightfully gets her children back. there is such a huge population of the ultra orthodox community doing so many awful things that i cannot believe more hasn’t been done. i can’t imagine the pain she must be going through to have to leave her children and watching the documentary it is absolutely apparent that this “religion” is a cult.
Sophia Grace please explain what horrible things you see these hassidic men doing?
I would also appreciate it if you can please elaborate? Thank you.
Heather Graham treating women like garbage? not caring for/watching their kids in public? i’m not saying it’s how it is everywhere, but everything i’ve seen first hand hasn’t been good. if you’re interested look up the towns of kiyras joel or new square in new york. many of the men know what is happening and the women aren’t educated enough to know any better. it’s a horrible cycle.
Sophia Grace.
Thanks for responding. Yeah, I don't ever collectively group every single person on principle but sometimes with the majority of some communities, a spade is just a spade, you know? It's sad that in 2018 it can still be so common place, just more in secret & under the guise of religion. I will look into your descriptions as I was genuinely curious.
In my town we have a community of hasidic jews-I met a very strong willed woman(I was cleaning her teeth) from that community- she was demanding and pushy, however sweet as we got talking, she is an ER nurse who was very capable- then I met her husband when he had a toothache-(OWHHH)
This man could not blink an eye without consulting with his WIFE
He needed her input before he could do anything....so my experience was soooo contradictory to this
My friend went through this w/Jewish community. They punished her but did not break her...
I understand Etty’s story: a marriage of convenience (for him); his repeated infidelity; his complete financial control; the sexual struggle I endured that ended the same as Etty’s.....we were members of a controlling, judgmental, paternalistic evangelical community. I had no emotional support. I had come from an abusive childhood that I sought counseling to deal with the deep pervasive depression and what I came to learn was anxiety. I had no way to take care of myself financially, much less the 3 children who had relationships with the woman my husband had been seeing for 3 years behind my back. We lived in a very small town in northern Arizona (7000 population). Everyone kept his secret and supported him. When I decided to leave, I was vilified by my church and my community. My husband hid the children from me with friends, and I had to leave alone with literally less than I came into the marriage with 17 years prior. My children were told I was the same as dead to them and that the new wife -who he married on the anniversary of my leaving home - was their « real » mother. I have since developed a relationship with my oldest daughter. My two younger children, a son and another daughter still have nothing to do with me and it is now 23 years later and my ex-husband has since passed away. I admire Etty’s strength and the desire to find her truth, as I did with my own loving, supportive partner. I can honestly say that I know what it feels like to feel loved and supported by someone who is actually interested in my well-being. All the best to Etty!
I wonder who are sleeping with these married hasidic men. They don't come across as attractive.
Doesnt matter what the religion is---keeping women subjugated and unfree, and imprisoning people, arranged marriages, abuse and harassment. Dispicable religious beliefs have no place in my world.
My immediate thought when I saw the thumbnail was why is Blossom losing her kids...and why are they calling her "this Mom?"
A strong, powerful and courageous woman. Thank you for sharing your story.
This documentary is amazing
the music is too loud it makes it difficult to understand what she is saying
what music?
There is no music???
The movie is a great documentary. Hopefully you find happiness. God bless you.
The way she was abused and the way the children were taken from their mother they will never recover from that trauma of separation. This shows me that the hasidic religion has a very dark side and it really damages people. Many of the extreme religious groups are more to do with power and control than they are about love and religion.
Wow! This girl is Mayim Bialik's doppelganger! I really thought it was her, that's why I clicked on it. Whoever watched the show Blossom you'd know who I'm talking about. It's really sad what she went through. I think she's confused about her sexuality though because of what she went through with an abusive man. I really hope the best for her & that she may gain full custody of her children one day. God bless her!♥️
Can't believe she lost in the courts!
Courts overwhelmingly favour mothers over fathers. It's such a sad story! Hopefully she will see her children when they are older and can understand!
Courts do not overwhelmingly favor mothers
My heart goes out to her. I wish her the best outcome that possibility can be.
My first intinct was to criticize her for leaving her kids in a situation she felt was too horrible for her to live in. But then I remembered the horrible things that happen to children with a disfunctional parent who hangs on to them for dear life thinking it's out of a deep love and concern for them, only to come to the realization, much to late, that were not fit to parent. Sometimes holding on is the most selfish thing you can do, cause letting go takes more love and more courage than the alternative.