Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm Vs Canik TP9SF Tale of the Tape!!
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I have over 2300 yes, I said 2300 rounds through my Canik tp9 and ZERO malfunctions!
Kotaboy32 Tactical Firearms Review I was wondering the same thing myself. Because although Smith and Wesson are made here they aren't American owned so the money still goes out of the country
I have 35oo,thru MP,no problems.
According to Canik, it's barrel is mil spec rated for 60,000 rounds!
Best pistol trigger sights I've ever had
Having owned both of these weapons I have to say both are winners. I'm a Smith&Wesson snob and have never held a bad one. But the Canik is an incredible shooter. I also own an H&K VP9 and what can you say but perfection. The Canik and the H&K are so close it isn't funny. I have a kydex holster for the H&K and the Canik also fits it. All great weapons.
I have both but I love my Canik, best 9MM I have. I never thought anything would feel better than my Glock 17 but Canik is a sure winner...
I find it funny that people complain about foreign firearms on a foreign electronic device.
Shit, Glock was foreign made for the longest time and no one complains about them
I'm sure theres some people complained about it being Austria when gen 1 first came out
Stupid people don't get irony.
Lol,
That!
Not to mention Glock is German, and anything U.S. made is not going to be exactly innocent of wrong doing. That being said, I think people confuse private companies with governments too much.
I'm a big fan of the M&P line, but overall I'll put the TP9SF against any striker fired. ANY. I'm a self admitted Canik fan boy, for what that's worth
Love my tp9 best pistol ever owned
Canik SF is one of my favorite 9mm’s. Has one of the best triggers on any 9mm.
Im a huge M&P fan have a couple of them, I just got the TP9SF and I think its the better gun/choice .
Five years later and Canik TP9 pistol models have established a solid reputation for being reliable, accurate, with amazing trigger pulls and ergonomics. ALL that at a fair affordable price.
I've owned both of these pistols. Canik Tp9sf in beige is a winner for me. Trigger is way better, than the Smith, capacity is the same. Feel in hand for me are about the same.
I put about 1250 rounds through the Smith, and only 250 rounds so far through the Canik and for me the Canik is the better pistol.
I've also owned the PPQ M2 and I'd say the Canik is only slightly better than that pistol as well.
*MY CANIK TP9SA seems to prefer "full power loads" … Winchester 9mm NATO works very well with decent accuracy. I expect other 124 grain or 8,0 gram bullet NATO ammos to work equally as well. My full power 147 grain hollow point handloads... LOADED LONG to fill up the long magazine also work well.... 115 grain target loads and light hollow point did not work well in my pistol... Inaccurate and unreliable {jamming}… FOR BEST RESULTS: I use Full power NATO ammo or full power to lower end of +P pressures with 124 grain (8,0 gram) or heavier bullets...*
Are the magazines interchangeable?
Best pistol I ever had
Canik totally wins.
my canik fits all my m&p holsters perfectly
Gotta say, I was pleasantly surprised when I bought my CanikTP9SF-Elite May/2019 ...... It's definitely a keeper ...
i own them both. like them both. i carry the tp9 i just like it better.
Same here, I own both and prefer my Canik. I also seem to shoot the Canik better. Both guns have been extremely reliable and you can't go wrong with either one.
I just bought the Canik TP9SF today. I put about 60 rounds through it. It is very accurate. I had no feed issues shooting Winchester 115 grain FMJ.
I shot 5 rounds at 3/5/7/10/15 yards. If someone was to break into my home I would have no problem hitting a man sized target with every shot.
You just can't beat the price of this gun. So far I'm loving it.
I've owned many pistols and my TP9SF is by far my favorite
NOSTALGIA FAN 96 Same here!!!
Tp9sf has one of the best stock triggers hands down, S&W or glock has nothing on them.
Love my tp9 sa best pistol i ever had
Canik is my baby and I am happy I got mine before things started going to crap with Turkey.
My m&p came in a cardboard box! Dammit im getting a canik!
I love Smith but the Canik does it just as well. I have the TP9sf in fde. It has been flawless. I would have no problem recommending the Canik. Either pistol is an excellent choice! However, it would be difficult to find a better firearm at the price of the Canik!!
Have to say, this is one of the best, least biased side by side reviews of firearms I have ever seen! Keep up the good work!
I have a Canik, my wife is a LEO and carries the M&P40, and I also have a couple of Glocks 22's. I am carrying the Canik right now because of the wonderful trigger. I have only seen the Canik fail during a torture test in which it still does better than the $600 H&K VP9. I like the video would have been nice to see some range footage.
I wish S&W would scrap that hinged trigger.
GUN TIMES Apex Tactical makes a fuck ton off M&P ppl replacing triggers
A apex trigger kit makes the M&P a whole different gun. It sucks that the kit cost 160$ but It makes a huge difference and well worth it to me.
Bobby James Completely agree. Got mine a couple weeks ago and feel spoiled.
Great comparison! I own the same S&W and the Canik TP9SA and I love both though for me I give the slight edge to my Canik. Plus their price is hard to beat.....
the new canik has fiber optic sights and a enlarged slide release..for the price I think it wins hands down imo
chris prisco and the slide release is ambidextrous
Love the video! I have the m&p 9 Shield. I've had it 2yrs+. I just got a Canik TP9 SF on Friday and took it to the range on Sunday. I love this pistol! The trigger pull is great! I got about 160 rounds through it flawlessly. I am female and I would recommend this gun for women. I also have a Sig P320 in 45acp and love it. The trigger pull is great.
I have both guns also and they are both great guns. Well worth the money. The Canik just feels like a more expensive gun. I would pay $500 for this gun easy. But glad I only paid $309.
@@ChrisB-zz8dh Which model did you buy?
@@5jjt A TP9SF
The one thing that I did to my canik is take black model paint and black out the rear dots leaving the centerline.Use florescent orange for front sight dot, focus always goes to the front sight.
Shot my old man's canik, own m&ps..would gladly trust my life with either..cant wait for canik to expand on models
Nice review. I have both of these and love them both. My M&P is chambered in 40 S&W and felt recoil is like shooting a 9mm. My Canik is the SF model no decoker. Both are great guns!
I'm really happy i found your channel!! :)
Got myself a tp9fs in flat dark earth color, best investment ever
Just bought the sf9 in od green and bronze(almost impossible to find). And I love it. What a great pistol. Now I hope they come out with a single stack for the misses
tpsf all the way it looks better. and has a better trigger.
Just got TP9SF yesterday. Can't wait to go shooting range !
@@kenshintactical6170 how's the recoil on it I'm considering it for my first
I'd go with the Canik if I had't just fallen in love with the HK vp9, LOL. Canik looks sexier too
Just dont get your vp9 wet
That trigger pull and reset is what made me fall in love with it
got the glocks,hk and the smith 2.0- canik feels great in the hand at the store even without the larger backstrap installed- I want one
thank you so much for this!
*CANIK TP9 SA works best with 9mm NATO ammo with 124 grain or 8,0 gram bullets .... IN MY EXPERIENCE: Shorter overall length ammo , lighter bullets or less powerful ammo may not cycle as they should {tend to JAM} and accuracy does suffer with NON NATO ammo.... 9mm NATO is definitely a full power load and Winchester 9mm NATO seems to border on " +P " pressures and performance. SO, it takes a "long bullet" to fill up that long 'from front to rear' magazine.... Canik shoots 124 to 147 grain loads very accurately. Those who prefer full power loads with longer and heavier bullets will likely enjoy the Canik...as I do... However, IF you prefer 115 grain or lighter target loads or light 115 grain and lighter hollow points..... you might not enjoy Canik. Worthy of note: Glock 17/19 and Beretta M9 / 92 seem to run on almost any brass cased ammo thrown into them...*
Do you shoot them in single shot mode? I always use the weapon with the magazine inserted
Great Comparison! Thank you sir.
Thanks for supporting the Boys in Blue. My son is a 16 year State police Sargeant so I sincerely appreciate your support. Excellent balanced video. I own both. Canik is a better value. With an Apex trigger job I prefer shooting the S&W but now we are well over $200.00 more in cost for the S&W. Both have life time warranties which is great. I'd be more like to carry the S&W and use the Canik at the range. Just my thoughts and opinion. Thanks for a nice comparison, Ray
I’ve owned the sd40ve and have a tp9sf now. Love both. No regrets from either one
İ got my canik last month and i am lovin it. İts handy, feels so comfortable and light. İ am glad that i picked canik! And of course price is so reasenable too.
This is my first time watching any of your videos. I did enjoy it And I also subscribed to your channel. I wouldn't mind having a canik, but I do have a S&W M&P9c and its my EDC. The S&W is very good and reliable.
TP9SF got mine for Christmas feels good in my hand shooting it only 200 rounds so far wow now all I need is a good OWB holster for it help !!!!!!!!!!!
deadman holster out of rapid city sd can and will make a kydex owb holster, as well as iwb. Gunfighters INC out of washington state makes a few different holsters as well, for the canik.
have you sone a video comparing all the caniks would love to hear your opinion on them all or the ones you own which do u like better the sf or sa ?
Thank you for this review, man! I am on a fence as of TP9SA vs TP9SF, or even upcoming sporty TP9SFx. Have you tried any of those to compare with your TP9SF? People value the TP9SA trigger highly and saying that its trigger is better than TP9SF. Can you confirm this? Now: Century Arms lists TP9SFx' trigger as: "Improved single action trigger with 3.5 - 4 lb. pull". Have you, by any chance tried the TP9SFx and if yes, what are your thoughts about this gun in general and in particular its trigger? Thumbs up!
I picked up a Canik TP9SF last week and after watching this video, I checked the machining quality of the pistol. The interior of the slide is clean and precise with no distracting marks or flaws.
I prefer the grip texture of the Canik over the M&P.
This video showed up in recommended list, I started watching, looked down on my desk and realized I had my Canik and M&P sitting here. What was the chance?! I have 2 Canik TP9 SF, tan and a black one. Both firing pins broke, Century Arms send me new ones. Better ones it seems.
awesome review this was great !
Never fired the Canik, but i can i really love my M&P9c.It's my favorite carry firearm in my collection.Love it so much...i bought a second one FDE. Good video, thanks for your honest opinion.
Awesome video again, would love to see your views on the FN FNS-9, also looks like a very good value. Thinking that or a Canik for my first 9 here soon.
Off topic maybe, but I have a Canik c100 compact with 1200 trouble free rounds through it; it may be better than the cz75 compact it's parent.
Yeah, I love metal, hammer fired pistols but I recently bought a shield; I've put 300 trouble free rounds through it and it is ideal for summer carry. Today I ordered a performance center shield with hi-vis sights for my aging eyes.
Both canik and s&w make excellent pistols, but the canik is my baby!!
Just an old .45 guy..
I have the Canik tp9sf and put talon grip on it feels so good. Give them a try you won’t be disappointed. Talon grips on Amazon for less than $ 25.00
Who sells the site mount for the canik? I have an iwi Jericho also and it doesn't need an adapter.
What's the Caniks grip angle like compared to the m@p?
I recently went to a gun shop looked at some m&p 9mm he said they were new but when releasing mag it wouldn't come out smooth sounded like a creeky door when racking slide and was rough was I lied to? I didn't purchase firearm
I have both these guns ...I love them both !!!
But for me canik wins due too a couple things ...
1. The trigger for me is better than smith ...the hinged trigger on the smith can cause you a issue if your finger rides up to high it will not release the safety and will not fire ...I have to make sure my finger is riding the trigger low to engage the trigger...
2. Magazine capacity...canik!!!
3. Price !!! Price !!!! Price !!!
4. Back to the trigger and the almost instant reset...
I dont care it's made in Turkey alot of great guns come from other countries...
Oh yeah I forgot accuracyright out of the box without training with it I was dead on head shots 30 yards away....I like my canik better than glock....yes I said it !!!!.
From what I've felt in my hands, and read from others, regarding the Canik, it's EASY to have your thumb ride the slide stop.
Can they both fit the same conceal iwb holsters??
Love my Canik TP9 best investment!!!
Trigger on the Canik is much better built. Also more room for a glove if need be. ( I live in N.Y.) I won't buy any M&P just because of that trigger cut in half. No thanks.
Good video. Nice work
Very good info.
real good comparison !!
I picked up my TP9SF several months ago and have put a few thousand rds thru it with no problems. Out of the box I liked it a lot, but did some polishing on the feed ramp and some of the of the trigger components anyway. Which improved the trigger even more. (the guts are very similar to the PPQ) Even before the polishing, the trigger worked better than the "supposedly excellent" PPQ or the typically gritty feeling stock M&Ps (I have 7, all with Apex and all reworked in some way or the other). Within the a lot of the M&Ps (but not all) many of the components have sharp edges, burrs, or possibly made to wider tolerances to cut costs. The variances in product procedures, make for variances in the product. "IF" S&W was to produce their designs to a higher level of precision, they would have a better finished product right out of the box (which also could use some attention!). In the mean time, out the of the box with no modifications, my TP9SF wins out.
Just got the CanikSF.. Very nice. Trigger is light yrs ahead of the long, spongy one on the MP. When you check trigger pull weight why wouldn't we check from the bottom end of trigger rather at the most upper part?
I just bought a tp9sa and hands down its accurate. love the trigger & shoots great. I have only ran too rounds through it so far no malfunctions. I'm more accurate with it then my cz p09 that I have owned for awhile.
500 rounds*
Are the mags interchangeable?
I traded my M&P 2.0 5” barrel for Canik TP9SFx and never looked back. Far better trigger.
Nothing beats the ergos of the m&p but the trigger on canik tp9 (SA or SF) is just too good for around 300 bucks. I have an SA and it makes an excellent stash gun. I also have a shield and S&w has proven reliability. I thought I would be set with these two handguns but then I bought a PPQ and it's really the best of both. ergos on par with the m&p and a trigger that can match the tp9.
Okay great, I subscribed so I'll be looking forward to seeing it.
I do not have to worry about it. I have both so. Both are excellent guns.
Both r great t for price and trigger i got to give it to canik. Sights r also better on the canik. Rear sight tighter therefore tighter groups. Grips r more comfortable on the m&p. If i couls sell all my pistols and replace them with all caniks i probably would. Except for maybe my shield. Love canik triggers
of all of the pistols that I have owned, the canicTP9SF IS MY PERSONAL FAVORITE AND DAILY CARRY
Good comparison...I have not fired either one but looking forward to it someday as I hear nothing but good things about both but the M&P is American made and that does account for something...Good vid...
I own both the Canik TP9sf and the S&W M&P 9mm 2.0
I Like them both but my favorite is the Canik. Just feels better in my hand. And Canik kicks EVERYONE'S ass in the trigger department. If you can get an unbiased opinion from anyone, Canik is the best "out of the box" "bang for your buck" purchase on the market right now. IMO, the only people that don't agree are your brand fanboys...
I also own the TP9 Elite Combat Executive. S&W has nothing on that one!👍
That being said, the Canik would make a good 1st gun.
I'm not a fan of striker fired pistols but sold my used S&W 5906 to purchase the original Canik 55 TP9 and absolutely love it. For years I'd only own a hammer fired pistol but these guns have really forced me to open my eyes to striker fired guns.
I just purchased the Canik TP9SF... Couldnt pass it up for the price!
Good decision
I have both of these and they are both great guns. For some reason I'm more accurate with the Kanick not Janeek
I'd like to see a comparision of this Canik TP9SF and the Ruger 9E,,both sell for about the same,and the 9E only comes with one mag and no carrying case but the guns themselves would make for an interesting comparision.
I like the canik. The thought of it being a quality gun and easily replaceable is nice. I'll never baby mine like my other guns.
Excellent review... I own both and also like both equally.... Canik is a excellent value at 100.00 less
I have both. They both excellent quality firearms.
I prefer smith & Wesson personally, but the canik is a damn good gun too. If someone even wanted to make the argument it was better too I wouldn’t get all up in arms about it, fair enough.
I think they’re on the same exact level though and my preferences leans me in Favor of the smith.
I bought a S&W 9MM IN 2009 no malfunctions works great and Smith stands behind their pistols mine had the blued striker that was breaking so I called them and sent me the new stainless striker free and I dropped a magazine and bent it and they sent a new one free but I bought a CANIK TP9SF it feels better in my hand and the trigger is superb the technology of these new striker fired pistols are improving all the time .
I have the TP9 SF with tan cerakote. waiting on the TP9 SF compact
Any idea when the compact version of the Tp9sf wll be released ???
ANTHONY N. I think that's the tp9sf elite
I'd like to see a tabletop comparison between the Canik TP9 and the FMK 9C Gen 2 if possible
Nice comparison! Both seem quite nice, but I would have to go with the S&W, I prefer the way it looks and it's made in the good ole US of A. Unfortunately, living in Commiefornia, the M&P9 is not available in the state so it's Glock for me for now.
Every Canik I see in the video has the holster release lever on the RIGHT side. Mine is on the LEFT, which is stupid as it is blocked when you attach the paddle to it. I called Century as I figured it was a defect in casting, but they said it is not a release lever and so is not used. OK, fine, then why put it on the holster AT ALL?
My sights on the TP9SF are different and do not feature the center line or dots on the rear sight. I like yours :-). Yours was from 2016, mine was purchased a few months ago in April 2018.
The Canik is larger than the S&W MP9. The Canik trigger has a very short reset. You can fire very rapidly with the Canik. It has a nice trigger with a softer pull than the S&W. Its great for target shooting. The stippling on the Canik is very aggressive. I find it fine while shooting, but with take down and cleaning, it gets rough. The slides on the S&W MP9 are nice. The Canik has a slighter longer sight picture.
Both are good firearms. I have shot both. I am able to fire the Canik more accurately.
Does the canick have embedded slide rails or is it part of a replaceable chassis like the S&W? This is not anti - Glock but as a LE instructor I have seen 2 Glock guide rails break on the 40 cal 23s. Glock did make good and it wasn't a wide spread issue. As the S&W has the rails in the sear housing and the locking block it would be a plus. Also, the Apex rework puts the M&P trigger in the same league as the PPQ. the M&P has somewhat less muzzle rise that the Canik (going by the Walther P99) or the PPQ because of a lower bore line. The PPQ in 40 is flippy as opposed to the Smith in 40 (personal experience, I have both). But who wants to pay an extra $100 for the Smith then have to dump another $100 into a trigger job. Depends. Having the Smith with and without Apex upgrades, the PPQ, a Canik sitting on hold and a Steyr, I'll take the Smith as a duty gun. And this guy's trigger may be 8lbs but the standard M&P trigger comes in at 6.5lbs and has a reasonable reset. Some prefer a little heavier trigger in a duty/carry gun as stress can be a bitch in a confrontation as been known to officers carrying Glocks. Short and light isn't always better nor is too short of a reset in a 40 or 10mm. (Inadvertent double taps have been known to take place) Short and light, on the range yes ... on the street ..eh?
Comes down to: 1. What you can afford or want to pay. 2. How the gun fits your hand. 3. The trigger. 4. What you shoot better. 5. Most importantly, it comes down to what you like. They all have good points and I wouldn't hesitate buying any of them for fun.
Oh ... what about parts availability when something breaks and things do break.
The glock 40 isn't built well enough for 40 cal
I cant afford either one at this time working up to getting one soon will keep you updated one which one i get so far i have the taurus g2c its good enough for now one hiccup in 5 full magazines of course my g2c is new. May go with the canik a few days ago and the s&w felt good too
Canik wins. They may not be the most accurate and their customer support is never free but they have ergonomic controls down much better than every other major manufacturet
I shoot my tp9sf elite more accurately than my m&p 2.0 or Glock or hk
I have both, and I love both of them. I couldn't decide which one I wanted, so I bought both. 'Murica!!! I have the M&P 2.0 and the Combat Elite Executive. The trigger is just flat out better than the M&P's. I think Canik "borrowed" the trigger from the Walther PPQ, lol.
Canik win by design
The boys in blue now seem to be the boys in black and camo
I have both. Great guns, I'm not sure which I prefer. My canik will fit my mp holster
I have the Canik TP9DA and love it
really good comparison
Are the magazines compatible
Doing some research... Crossbreed has holsters for the Canik TP9SF... Alien Gear, when I last checked, did not.
I haven't yet bought my first pistol but did shoot 50 rounds with the Canik and then 50 rounds with a Glock 19 (a bit off topic for this video, but not entirely). What I noticed as a new shooter: trigger was clearly better on Canik (I later saw everyone else saying Canik's trigger is excellent). Feel in the hand was better for Canik. One time I fired the Canik before I intended. My mistake rather than firearm design? Probably. And as everyone else says, the price-benefit can't be beat.
The down sides of parts availability and not US made are surely worth factoring into the decision.
Damn I might trade my CZ75 SP-01 Shadow for one of these. The CZ is very heavy and the slide is low profile so getting a grip on it to rack it is a task. Not something i want in a defensive situation
That's not a slide release, it's a slide stop. When chambering a round you should always pull the slide back fully to the rear (because it is not fully to the rear when the stop catches it.) and let go. Otherwise you could cause a malfunction, rare but possible.
Great video minus the music. Canik all the way. They're 280 on some websites now. I own both of these and wished I didn't but the M&p 2.0 first cause I would've bought 2 caniks for what I paid for the 2.0
Zombie Killer I have a 2.0 Compact and love it (just replaced the factory night sights with Trijicon HD Night sights and an Apex Tactical flat faced trigger) but kinda wish I knew about the Canik because at that price it's a fucking steal.
Really excellent no BS review..Maybe I'll have to get one of these polymer wonder 9's. I'll stick with my all metal c100 with a hammer and real safety! Lol.PS..I cheated and also have an ultra reliable shield..Yeah, striker and plastic But with a safety!!