It’s often forgotten now, but the Patriot Movement started in Parliament back in 1725 as a branch of the Whig Party. They began as a counter to political corruption, but then later pushed for parliamentary reform in the light of new ideas. These men pushed for new ideas on Civil Liberties, Democracy and Free Enterprise. My home town of Rotherham Yorkshire was Patriot. On a hilltop overlooking the town stands a monument to the Boston Tea Party built in 1775 called Boston Castle. Not far away at Parlington Hall Yorkshire stands a massive Victory Arch built in 1783 to mark the Patriot Victory. Right at the centre of London stands a statue of George Washington. Monuments like these exist because the Patriots were to win politically in Britain. In 1782 the Whig Lord Rockingham was invited to become Prime Minister he agreed on the condition that he be allowed to set America Free. Fighting against the colonies stopped the moment he came to power but continued against the other belligerents until the peace treaties of 1783. One of the ironies of the conflict was that the new USA moved to the Tory Right, whilst Britain itself moved towards the Patriot Left. In 1825 the Patriot Party renamed itself the Liberal Party and so still exists in parliament to this day. British Patriots were to be very disappointed in the American Constitution, describing it as more Tory than the Tories! They did not like that slavery was built into the constitution. They did not like that the vote was restricted to just the white property owning class or just 6% of the population. However many of the these British Patriots are remembered today in the names of American Countries, Cities and Warships. Examples from my home town of Rotherham:- Lords Rockingham and Effingham.
And there in lies the problem. We were born into this Government, our very births treated as though we have consented to be governed by the United States. Now, it's true that we could always renounce our citizenship and go elsewhere, but there's a couple problems with that. 1) you can't legally enter most other countries without a passport showing your citizenship (I can't really name any where this is possible off hand). 2)You may not be able to afford to go anywhere else. Travel costs money. If you don't think so, ask the refugees crossing over our southern border how much they were FORCED, as in at gun-point, to pay to be let through. Most countries require you to have a certain level of wealth or at least have already secured employment before they let you legally immigrate. Now, I'm not some kind of Sovereign Citizen and I loath making an argument favorable to them, but forced consent is not consent at all. The second problem is with Popular Sovereignty. What if, more or less, half the population believes the government is no longer holding up it's end of the contract and they believe they have, not just the right but, the duty to alter or abolish the US government regardless of what the other half thinks? And lets be real here, it's more like a third vs a third, because too many people can't be bothered to care, either because they have more existential problems or it just doesn't matter to them...until it's too late and they find out it actually does. Or maybe they believe there are no options with their best interests in mind.
you can't legally enter most other countries if you have non--American or non West passport .... And we lost American Password power with Obama - Biden administration
How do we guarantee our sovereignty if a tyrannical government has the power to prevent us from absolving such tyranny? Isn't that why the 2nd amendment is there for each individual citizen to keep and bear arms in such cases of a tyrannical government, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed because of this very reason. Where am I going wrong here?
Outstanding series, explained in laymans terms by a knowledgeable scholar!
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It’s often forgotten now, but the Patriot Movement started in Parliament back in 1725 as a branch of the Whig Party. They began as a counter to political corruption, but then later pushed for parliamentary reform in the light of new ideas. These men pushed for new ideas on Civil Liberties, Democracy and Free Enterprise. My home town of Rotherham Yorkshire was Patriot. On a hilltop overlooking the town stands a monument to the Boston Tea Party built in 1775 called Boston Castle. Not far away at Parlington Hall Yorkshire stands a massive Victory Arch built in 1783 to mark the Patriot Victory. Right at the centre of London stands a statue of George Washington. Monuments like these exist because the Patriots were to win politically in Britain. In 1782 the Whig Lord Rockingham was invited to become Prime Minister he agreed on the condition that he be allowed to set America Free. Fighting against the colonies stopped the moment he came to power but continued against the other belligerents until the peace treaties of 1783. One of the ironies of the conflict was that the new USA moved to the Tory Right, whilst Britain itself moved towards the Patriot Left. In 1825 the Patriot Party renamed itself the Liberal Party and so still exists in parliament to this day. British Patriots were to be very disappointed in the American Constitution, describing it as more Tory than the Tories! They did not like that slavery was built into the constitution. They did not like that the vote was restricted to just the white property owning class or just 6% of the population. However many of the these British Patriots are remembered today in the names of American Countries, Cities and Warships. Examples from my home town of Rotherham:- Lords Rockingham and Effingham.
Where in US Constitution something about slavery and "just white minority "?
As our current government violates every principle and rule of the constitution, what do we do now?
The tree of liberty quote.
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And there in lies the problem. We were born into this Government, our very births treated as though we have consented to be governed by the United States. Now, it's true that we could always renounce our citizenship and go elsewhere, but there's a couple problems with that. 1) you can't legally enter most other countries without a passport showing your citizenship (I can't really name any where this is possible off hand). 2)You may not be able to afford to go anywhere else. Travel costs money. If you don't think so, ask the refugees crossing over our southern border how much they were FORCED, as in at gun-point, to pay to be let through. Most countries require you to have a certain level of wealth or at least have already secured employment before they let you legally immigrate.
Now, I'm not some kind of Sovereign Citizen and I loath making an argument favorable to them, but forced consent is not consent at all.
The second problem is with Popular Sovereignty. What if, more or less, half the population believes the government is no longer holding up it's end of the contract and they believe they have, not just the right but, the duty to alter or abolish the US government regardless of what the other half thinks? And lets be real here, it's more like a third vs a third, because too many people can't be bothered to care, either because they have more existential problems or it just doesn't matter to them...until it's too late and they find out it actually does. Or maybe they believe there are no options with their best interests in mind.
you can't legally enter most other countries if you have non--American or non West passport .... And we lost American Password power with Obama - Biden administration
How do we guarantee our sovereignty if a tyrannical government has the power to prevent us from absolving such tyranny? Isn't that why the 2nd amendment is there for each individual citizen to keep and bear arms in such cases of a tyrannical government, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed because of this very reason. Where am I going wrong here?
You failed to bring in the purpose of the 2nd amendment to guarantee The sovereignty of We the People....